 WiLLiE China. September 11 2003 14:50. Posts 82 | Profile |
Just cbf to go to gym and another reason s gym ppl all got like "Massvie bricks" T_T i am to shy to go there without any  help sum1? |
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 BigBalls United States. September 11 2003 14:53. Posts 5299 | Profile |
push up builds tricep/chest
you do have other muscles, you could do non weight techniques for a lot of them, but they are not as effective
there are always some people who are small at every gym...dont be embarassed, just go |
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 z7-TranCe Canada. September 11 2003 14:58. Posts 3156 | Profile |
or you could buy a set of dumb bells and weights which are fairly cheap,and go to www.bodybuilding.com,it has almost everything you need to know/nice little online store too
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| iD.Twisted Netherlands. September 11 2003 15:06. Posts 3102 | Profile |
Willie it doesn't matter how small you are. Just keep in mind that these huge guys with massive bricks were small too  |
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 Frits Netherlands. September 11 2003 15:26. Posts 10698 | Profile |
is push ups the one were u stand on your hands and feet and go up and down all the time?
if so, i do those things standard 50 every day (started with 20 like a year ago) and im not muscled at all. so anyone know how to really build muscles without those weights etc?Last edit: 2003-09-11 15:27:16 |
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| ObsoleteLogic United States. September 11 2003 15:33. Posts 3676 | Profile |
| Weights build bulky muscle, pushups build lean muscle. |
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| esk0 Sweden. September 11 2003 15:45. Posts 1393 | Profile |
depends on how many reps you (are able) to do
if you lift so much that you can do 1-3 reps you get strong muscles
3-10 = big (thats what the girls like so this is what you do)
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| iD.Twisted Netherlands. September 11 2003 16:11. Posts 3102 | Profile |
On September 11 2003 15:26 FrZ[9] wrote:
is push ups the one were u stand on your hands and feet and go up and down all the time?
if so, i do those things standard 50 every day (started with 20 like a year ago) and im not muscled at all. so anyone know how to really build muscles without those weights etc?
Get older. You're still growing in lenght, I doubt you will grow any muscles at your age t t |
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| Frits Netherlands. September 11 2003 16:36. Posts 10698 | Profile |
| heh thx for the advise didnt thought of that, im just 15 btw how old is every1 here? and how muscled? Last edit: 2003-09-11 16:37:23 |
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 Funktion Australia. September 11 2003 17:05. Posts 156 | Profile |
Push ups also work your stomach, shoulders and back. They pretty much work the whole upper body. But they are a waste of time when compared to lifting weights and doing exercises that specifically target individual muscles. Except for a bit of cardio or warming up they are a waste of time when compared to what you could be doing instead.
You will see very little, if any results if you do only pushups each day.
heh thx for the advise didnt thought of that, im just 15 btw how old is every1 here? and how muscled?
I don't know if its fact or not but I've heard that if you start serious weight lifting before you've stoppped fully growing then you can negatively effect your body growth? |
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| iD.Twisted Netherlands. September 11 2003 17:09. Posts 3102 | Profile |
On September 11 2003 17:05 Funktion wrote: Push ups also work your stomach, shoulders and back. They pretty much work the whole upper body. But they are a waste of time when compared to lifting weights and doing exercises that specifically target individual muscles. Except for a bit of cardio or warming up they are a waste of time when compared to what you could be doing instead. You will see very little, if any results if you do only pushups each day.
Show nested quote +heh thx for the advise didnt thought of that, im just 15 btw how old is every1 here? and how muscled?
I don't know if its fact or not but I've heard that if you start serious weight lifting before you've stoppped fully growing then you can negatively effect your body growth?
Not entirely, but you shouldn't overdo it on the exercises, then it can happen. If you're 18~19 you can lift whatever you want :o as long as you can bear it =] If you're under that age you gotta take it easy. |
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| esk0 Sweden. September 11 2003 17:25. Posts 1393 | Profile |
FrZ[9] just start lifting weights? It's just bullshit that you can hurt yourself and stop growing because you are young, it will only happen if you lift much more than your body can take.
i got me one of those things you put in the door opening (so you can make pull-ups) when i was like 14. my arms got pretty muscly by that.
chest as well but not as much as my arms
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| suLTan[CaN] Canada. September 11 2003 18:44. Posts 322 | Profile |
On September 11 2003 18:22 GundamVX wrote:
Gymnasts are usually small because they exercised too much when they were little
No, they are small because they focus on cardio training, the type of wieght training you do will determine the type of size you will obtain...
I'm 6'4 225Lbs, if I wanted to become huge, I'd lift about 15% of my wieght, if I wanted to become strong, I'd go for 20%, if I wanted to tone my body, I'd lift about 5-10%, if I was huge, but I had huge viens, I'd do cardio, cardio is the best excersize you can get, but it won't give you quick results, the tight six pack abs, the bulging arms, it'll make sure you and your heart/lungs/etc are healthy...
and to answer your questions, push ups will help you get rid of "man-boobs" and widen your chest, it will also make your arms pretty solid, those are the results you'll notice the most, after about 3 months, you should see good results. But make sure you do it right, don't strain yourself, or your arms and shoulders can get really damaged, try to do about 10-30 push ups a day, start slow, then build up each week, don't do them alone or nothing will happen, try to do some jogging/climbing stairs, and sit ups, though be careful because doing situps the wrong way it the easiest way to hurt yourself, after a couple of months, you'll start to see results, depending upon how you train, and you diet/wieght/hieght before, your results will vary....which reminds me, the most important part of any work out is your diet, if you are eating alot of fast food, then your results won't be as noticable...if you eat right, you can get huge/in shape easyLast edit: 2003-09-11 18:46:22 |
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| AgonyRush United States. September 11 2003 18:49. Posts 2540 | Profile |
On September 11 2003 15:26 FrZ[9] wrote:
is push ups the one were u stand on your hands and feet and go up and down all the time?
if so, i do those things standard 50 every day (started with 20 like a year ago) and im not muscled at all. so anyone know how to really build muscles without those weights etc?
push ups pull ups. just 1 year isnt enough.
hehe, i know that, i hate weight lifting. i use 10 pounds dumbbells sometimes, but thats about it. WL so unhealthy, ur heart gettin fucked up. people who do weights as esko said 1-3 times r strong, yeah, but they cant do shit, like for example in a fight they can do 1-3 strong hits, tho probably miss, and then they re done- they r tired. people who work with small weights & pushups pullups can fight mad nice-.-
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| Frits Netherlands. September 11 2003 19:04. Posts 10698 | Profile |
I said: without those weights etc?
Esk0: FrZ[9] just start lifting weights?
thx for paying attention to what i said :-).
just explain some good excercises without the weights and stuff, also i dont consider serious weightlifting, just want to keep in shape :-). |
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| Ready2[ESC] Hungary. September 11 2003 19:05. Posts 1436 | Profile |
On September 11 2003 18:49 AgonyRush wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 11 2003 15:26 FrZ[9] wrote:
is push ups the one were u stand on your hands and feet and go up and down all the time?
if so, i do those things standard 50 every day (started with 20 like a year ago) and im not muscled at all. so anyone know how to really build muscles without those weights etc?
push ups pull ups. just 1 year isnt enough. hehe, i know that, i hate weight lifting. i use 10 pounds dumbbells sometimes, but thats about it. WL so unhealthy, ur heart gettin fucked up. people who do weights as esko said 1-3 times r strong, yeah, but they cant do shit, like for example in a fight they can do 1-3 strong hits, tho probably miss, and then they re done- they r tired. people who work with small weights & pushups pullups can fight mad nice-.-
there is a 150kg guy in my gym. he wouldnt hit you in a fight. he would catch you and break your spine. smartest thing to do is run |
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 DevAzTaYtA Oman. September 11 2003 19:08. Posts 1858 | Profile Blog |
push ups suck if you're trying to get buff
just go to the gym with a friend if you're embarassed or do as tranCe said |
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| HovZ United States. September 11 2003 19:11. Posts 1917 | Profile |
On September 11 2003 18:49 AgonyRush wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 11 2003 15:26 FrZ[9] wrote:
is push ups the one were u stand on your hands and feet and go up and down all the time?
if so, i do those things standard 50 every day (started with 20 like a year ago) and im not muscled at all. so anyone know how to really build muscles without those weights etc?
push ups pull ups. just 1 year isnt enough. hehe, i know that, i hate weight lifting. i use 10 pounds dumbbells sometimes, but thats about it. WL so unhealthy, ur heart gettin fucked up. people who do weights as esko said 1-3 times r strong, yeah, but they cant do shit, like for example in a fight they can do 1-3 strong hits, tho probably miss, and then they re done- they r tired. people who work with small weights & pushups pullups can fight mad nice-.-
that has to be the most idiotic statement anyone has ever said. agonyrush its obvious u are completely clueless to this topic. anyways push ups do serve a good purpose. it builds ur stablizer muscles, eliminates any weak links u might have outside the major muscle groups. but dont expect to get big off of push ups. |
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I would just go to the fitness centre. People really don't laugh there or something if you only use the light weights. In the begin you suck at it but you will notice that if you go 3 times a week you will grow very fast.
Only pushups etc will not build up any muscle. I suppose you want to muscle up for the ladies so you you better get over the shy part and showing yourself in the fitness centre could be a good thing Really, not everybody there is a hotshot.. I say just check out some different ones and look which one you feel most comfortable in, the supersized men typicly go all to the same centre.
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| uP.ZoNe United States. September 11 2003 19:38. Posts 6 | Profile |
Take it from a guy in the Army Reserves.
You know how many pushups I've done while I was in basic?! Granted pushups arn't the best way of targeting and stimulating your muscle groups, they help to build leaner muscle. They target your chest (mostly), your upper back, and do work your abs (but not very much).
The best way is go to a gym and lift weights on a regular basis, or else go out and buy The Crossbow from www.thecrossbow.com. I bought one after I got home from basic and I love it  .Last edit: 2003-09-11 19:40:48 |
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| iD.Twisted Netherlands. September 11 2003 19:55. Posts 3102 | Profile |
On September 11 2003 19:04 FrZ[9] wrote:
I said: without those weights etc?
Esk0: FrZ[9] just start lifting weights?
thx for paying attention to what i said :-).
just explain some good excercises without the weights and stuff, also i dont consider serious weightlifting, just want to keep in shape :-).
Go play soccer if you wanna keep in shape oo; |
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| Liquid`Meat Netherlands. September 11 2003 19:59. Posts 3504 | Profile Blog |
I will also be working out again from next week
Have done that for pretty long time but when i went living on my own it was simply not payable ;( My new school got a cheap gym and can't wait to get rid of my belly and build up a bit again. |
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take it from a guy that does boxing and martial arts
push ups make you very strong but you dont get muscles to show to the ladies.
And I would really really advise not to use weights under 16/17. They do dmg your body and they do stop you from groing. If you want to work on your body and you are not 16 yet train with your own weight and do more exercises for your condition instead of your muscles.
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| Casper... Liberia. September 11 2003 20:10. Posts 4948 | Profile |
just go and push weights you pussy.
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| GnR Canada. September 11 2003 20:18. Posts 104 | Profile |
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| Frits Netherlands. September 11 2003 20:31. Posts 10698 | Profile |
| Well i dont want big muscles at all, just being strong statisfies (huk, my english sucks) me. I think too much muscle is ugly, all i care about is just being strong and a nice looking chest. Also how much does a regular fitness centrum cost? Last edit: 2003-09-11 20:32:53 |
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| I've been going to the gym for a while and me along with some of the other stronger guys usually take it as a compliment when a beginner asks us for help or advice. By no means is anyone going to make fun of anyone for anything. Just make sure you read up alot because weight training is an exstensive subject and their is alot to learn about. Just going to the gym, or just lifting weights will have minimal effects, you need to keep many things in mind. Too various for me to type out now because I am lazy. Last edit: 2003-09-11 21:08:41 |
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 ShAsTa Belgium. September 11 2003 21:13. Posts 2437 | Profile |
the guys who have 'ugly' muscles are guys who take steroids.
Trust me, you won't get that when you go to the gym a couple of times.
Casper is 100% correct. The guys there don't care one bit how you look. Just concentrate on yourself.
I don't think you'll get a nice chest without using weights.
pushups may help, but it won't be that impressive.
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| Anal_Ripper Russian Federation. September 11 2003 21:32. Posts 1233 | Profile |
Push ups do not make u a muscle man (Schwarzenegger), they rather make u a fit man (jackie chan), and they do not affect your back at all(pull ups do) they affect triceps(elbows close to body) or chest (elbows wide apart.
Sultan, how the fuck will I become huge if I bench press 15-20% of my weight (that's like 10-16 kgs) I bp 110% now, if I go back to 20% I'll just lose my shape, thus you should count how many reps and sets you do, not bodyweight?
and it's absolutely ok to work out with weights if you are 15 (my former classmate bench presses 50x12 when he was 14(he was 5'9" then; he's 6'3" now)) the key here is some advice from older and experienced guys: don't be a slightest bit afraid to ask for help - if a person is not a complete arsehole he will introduce you to all the necessary exercises and most probably provide you with a routine.
and you surely should visit some site// get a bodybuilding magazine//book
my 2 cents
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| DeoDoubleG Philippines. September 11 2003 21:38. Posts 350 | Profile |
while we're at it, does anybody know the difference between regular push ups and the diamond ones (where your hands are close together like a diamond).
i know it works out something specific in the chest, but i just dont know. |
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| Strafe[iR] Netherlands. September 11 2003 21:58. Posts 266 | Profile |
| if you put your hands in the middle you train your triceps a bit more |
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 ToKoreaWithLove Norway. September 11 2003 22:27. Posts 7865 | Profile Blog |
On September 11 2003 21:38 DeoDoubleG wrote:
while we're at it, does anybody know the difference between regular push ups and the diamond ones (where your hands are close together like a diamond).
i know it works out something specific in the chest, but i just dont know.
What strafe said.
You can also push wider than usual. Both of these gives more effect. |
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| esk0 Sweden. September 11 2003 22:28. Posts 1393 | Profile |
yeah my new school got also got a gym. it's free, but it isn't very high quality, and it's prety small. but it is enough.
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| SF-Fork Russian Federation. September 11 2003 22:32. Posts 889 | Profile |
On September 11 2003 19:04 FrZ[9] wrote:
I said: without those weights etc?
Esk0: FrZ[9] just start lifting weights?
thx for paying attention to what i said :-).
just explain some good excercises without the weights and stuff, also i dont consider serious weightlifting, just want to keep in shape :-).
If you dont want to do weight lifting and you just want to get in shape you should just have a good diet. Alot of cereal, proteins and try not to eat any fat. Run everyday around 6 or 7 PM cuz thats the best time to do it. When you get older and stop growing ur muscles will grow by themselves.
I go to the gym only like once every 2 weeks. That does nothing to your muscles, I only go because I want to try myself out. I am 17 and I year ago I could not lift in chest 30 Kg. Now just by eating right and practicing sports that train your lungs I can pull a maximum of 80 kg in chest. For weightlifters it is nothing but you still get thick.
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| Iron[NM] United States. September 12 2003 00:02. Posts 57 | Profile |
On September 11 2003 14:50 WiLLiE wrote: Just cbf to go to gym and another reason s gym ppl all got like "Massvie bricks" T_T i am to shy to go there without any help sum1?
Who gives a crap? You there to workout, along with everyone else. I was always short and not very big at all Freshman-Sophomore years of High School (Freshman year I was a whopping 5'2" 100 lbs) and Sophomore year was about the same, give or take 10 pounds. I did also run XCountry Soph year. Over the summer and int Junior Year, I nearly skyrocketed to 6' at the end of my Junior year.
However, in my Senior Year of HS, I am now 6'2" and 148 lbs, and still growing (late bloomer). While still skinny, if it wasn't for working out with my friend who was quite bigger than me at the start of Junior Year, I would be nowhere near the weight or strength I am now.
If you want to seriously get yourself in shape, and gain strength, work out 2 body parts every day, and do it in a cycle, taking Sunday off. 4 sets of 12, 10, 8, and 6 reps. The 6 reps will build your power lifting strength, while the 12, 10, and 8 will build up definition.
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| MadduX United States. September 12 2003 00:25. Posts 500 | Profile |
no weights = toned muscle
light weight many time = toned muscle with a little bulk
heavy weights not many time = bulk |
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| iGgs Russian Federation. September 12 2003 00:49. Posts 772 | Profile |
| hey i just recently (about a month or so) ago started trying to *tone* my arms and abs and like i started out with 12 lb weights and those were pretty hard but eventually i got to the point where i could do 30-40 of those and i moved on to 20 lb weights, at first i could only do like 7-10 of those tops but in like 2 days i got up to 15 and now im hitting 19 20lbs with very much effort, also i've been working on my abs doing 2 sets of 20 modified crunches (i read if you extent your arms upward while going back up it has more effect) + 60 bicycle manuevers (for those who havent heard about them they're supposedly really good) i've been doing the abs stuff pretty frequently per day for about 3 weeks to a month and i havent really seen any results in my abs except my stomach muscles are significantly tighter but no visible 6 pack yet Well right now i dont know my peak for my arms can anyone give advice because i dont know if i can go higher than 20 20 lbs, maybe with some time but i only weigh 119 lbs and am like 5'6, also can someone tell me how to progress with my abs, maybe i need to wait longer ? also any advice for arms which doesnt involve much equipment is nice too, my arms have gotten A LOT stronger but i dunno my limit and i want to be stronger ! |
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| ObsoleteLogic United States. September 12 2003 01:04. Posts 3676 | Profile |
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| iGgs Russian Federation. September 12 2003 01:28. Posts 772 | Profile |
On September 12 2003 01:04 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Nothing like fitness advice from avid BW players!
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| C)R Canada. September 12 2003 01:33. Posts 549 | Profile |
On September 12 2003 00:49 iGgs wrote: hey i just recently (about a month or so) ago started trying to *tone* my arms and abs and like i started out with 12 lb weights and those were pretty hard but eventually i got to the point where i could do 30-40 of those and i moved on to 20 lb weights, at first i could only do like 7-10 of those tops but in like 2 days i got up to 15 and now im hitting 19 20lbs with very much effort, also i've been working on my abs doing 2 sets of 20 modified crunches (i read if you extent your arms upward while going back up it has more effect) + 60 bicycle manuevers (for those who havent heard about them they're supposedly really good) i've been doing the abs stuff pretty frequently per day for about 3 weeks to a month and i havent really seen any results in my abs except my stomach muscles are significantly tighter but no visible 6 pack yet Well right now i dont know my peak for my arms can anyone give advice because i dont know if i can go higher than 20 20 lbs, maybe with some time but i only weigh 119 lbs and am like 5'6, also can someone tell me how to progress with my abs, maybe i need to wait longer ? also any advice for arms which doesnt involve much equipment is nice too, my arms have gotten A LOT stronger but i dunno my limit and i want to be stronger !
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| iGgs Russian Federation. September 12 2003 01:39. Posts 772 | Profile |
On September 12 2003 01:33 C)R wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 12 2003 00:49 iGgs wrote: hey i just recently (about a month or so) ago started trying to *tone* my arms and abs and like i started out with 12 lb weights and those were pretty hard but eventually i got to the point where i could do 30-40 of those and i moved on to 20 lb weights, at first i could only do like 7-10 of those tops but in like 2 days i got up to 15 and now im hitting 19 20lbs with very much effort, also i've been working on my abs doing 2 sets of 20 modified crunches (i read if you extent your arms upward while going back up it has more effect) + 60 bicycle manuevers (for those who havent heard about them they're supposedly really good) i've been doing the abs stuff pretty frequently per day for about 3 weeks to a month and i havent really seen any results in my abs except my stomach muscles are significantly tighter but no visible 6 pack yet Well right now i dont know my peak for my arms can anyone give advice because i dont know if i can go higher than 20 20 lbs, maybe with some time but i only weigh 119 lbs and am like 5'6, also can someone tell me how to progress with my abs, maybe i need to wait longer ? also any advice for arms which doesnt involve much equipment is nice too, my arms have gotten A LOT stronger but i dunno my limit and i want to be stronger !
for better abs do cardio everyday and when u do your ab routine don't rest at all, move on to the next thing right away, you're not done until you're curled up in the fetal position in pain
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| MyztiC`Terran United States. September 12 2003 02:10. Posts 374 | Profile |
| pushups take a while to build up muscles. I suggest you do 40 and take about a 5 min max break and then do 30. then 5 min then 20. Keep doing this until you get to 10 |
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| suLTan[CaN] Canada. September 12 2003 02:36. Posts 322 | Profile |
On September 11 2003 21:32 Anal_Ripper wrote:
Sultan, how the fuck will I become huge if I bench press 15-20% of my weight (that's like 10-16 kgs) I bp 110% now, if I go back to 20% I'll just lose my shape, thus you should count how many reps and sets you do, not bodyweight?
I ment 115%, but when you go insane like that, it's just stupid...cause most of the time, once someone gets into big numbers, they try harder and harder thinking that the bigger the number, the stronger they are...and you'll strain yourself if you do that....also when you lift that much, you should do less reps...like 8-15 is good for each type of lift....the other lifts, you want to do like 30-100 if you can. |
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| HovZ United States. September 12 2003 02:40. Posts 1917 | Profile |
On September 12 2003 00:49 iGgs wrote: hey i just recently (about a month or so) ago started trying to *tone* my arms and abs and like i started out with 12 lb weights and those were pretty hard but eventually i got to the point where i could do 30-40 of those and i moved on to 20 lb weights, at first i could only do like 7-10 of those tops but in like 2 days i got up to 15 and now im hitting 19 20lbs with very much effort, also i've been working on my abs doing 2 sets of 20 modified crunches (i read if you extent your arms upward while going back up it has more effect) + 60 bicycle manuevers (for those who havent heard about them they're supposedly really good) i've been doing the abs stuff pretty frequently per day for about 3 weeks to a month and i havent really seen any results in my abs except my stomach muscles are significantly tighter but no visible 6 pack yet Well right now i dont know my peak for my arms can anyone give advice because i dont know if i can go higher than 20 20 lbs, maybe with some time but i only weigh 119 lbs and am like 5'6, also can someone tell me how to progress with my abs, maybe i need to wait longer ? also any advice for arms which doesnt involve much equipment is nice too, my arms have gotten A LOT stronger but i dunno my limit and i want to be stronger !
heres some advice, stop lying. u dony go from 7 reps of 20 pounds to 15 reps in 2 days. sorry it just doesnt happen |
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| portos Belgium. September 12 2003 02:54. Posts 121 | Profile |
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| C)R Canada. September 12 2003 03:02. Posts 549 | Profile |
I dunno could happen, it's only 20lbs. O n btw iGgs it's been my experience that crunches r a huge waste of time, the most effecient thing to do is your basic sit up but do em right, like keep feet flat and still on the ground with no help, arms behind your head, and don't "stall" in between reps. It's amazing how many more reps u can do with just a little cheating. I have a rough time getting to 50, but can easily do 2wice 3 times that if i cheat. Also do incline with a plate
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| HaLoToss United States. September 12 2003 03:26. Posts 357 | Profile |
| omg dont ask for health advice on a bw forum willie |
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| RickJSanchez United States. September 12 2003 03:28. Posts 1585 | Profile |
| all u gotta do is stick away from Golds Gym, all the genetic freaks go there. places like Ballys, 24 Hour Fitness, & LA Fitness, are for people of all sizes. I used to go to a place in Cali called The Right Stuff. it was home of all the high school girls and girls in college |
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| iGgs Russian Federation. September 12 2003 03:57. Posts 772 | Profile |
On September 12 2003 02:40 HovZ wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 12 2003 00:49 iGgs wrote: hey i just recently (about a month or so) ago started trying to *tone* my arms and abs and like i started out with 12 lb weights and those were pretty hard but eventually i got to the point where i could do 30-40 of those and i moved on to 20 lb weights, at first i could only do like 7-10 of those tops but in like 2 days i got up to 15 and now im hitting 19 20lbs with very much effort, also i've been working on my abs doing 2 sets of 20 modified crunches (i read if you extent your arms upward while going back up it has more effect) + 60 bicycle manuevers (for those who havent heard about them they're supposedly really good) i've been doing the abs stuff pretty frequently per day for about 3 weeks to a month and i havent really seen any results in my abs except my stomach muscles are significantly tighter but no visible 6 pack yet Well right now i dont know my peak for my arms can anyone give advice because i dont know if i can go higher than 20 20 lbs, maybe with some time but i only weigh 119 lbs and am like 5'6, also can someone tell me how to progress with my abs, maybe i need to wait longer ? also any advice for arms which doesnt involve much equipment is nice too, my arms have gotten A LOT stronger but i dunno my limit and i want to be stronger !
heres some advice, stop lying. u dony go from 7 reps of 20 pounds to 15 reps in 2 days. sorry it just doesnt happen
i swear to god. Im not sure about the PRECISE times but i guarantee i went from about 7 reps of 20 to 15 to 19 reps of 20 in a week or less. GUARANTEE |
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| taeWook United States. September 12 2003 05:30. Posts 1366 | Profile |
| hrm i heard from a naturalpathic doctor that lifting weights puts huge amounts of strain and stress on your body, causing you to have massive amounts of pain later on in life. fact or fiction? he says the best way to live your life, one without pain and suffering, (and being completely healthy btw) is to do moderate excercise like swimming jogging and such. what do you guys thinK? |
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| iGgs Russian Federation. September 12 2003 05:52. Posts 772 | Profile |
i bet he's 5'3 104 lbs with weak arms pale and a frail body frame  |
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| HovZ United States. September 12 2003 06:17. Posts 1917 | Profile |
| then u were stopping at 7 when u could do more, u dont increase ur max rep count by 13 in 1 week |
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 TeCh)PsylO United States. September 12 2003 06:27. Posts 3520 | Profile |
| if he just started working out, his form most likely stopped him from doing more than 7. i have worked out off and on for abuot 7 years, when i come back from a brake, im pushin relatively small numbers, but within a few work outs ill be at like 90% of where i left off. muscles just need to get use to the motions and forms to be used to there full potential. |
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| Aus.predator Australia. September 12 2003 06:27. Posts 26 | Profile |
| Weights are good if u do heavy weights.. not so heavy u struggle eveytime but heavy enough to make an effort... people who do lighter weights and more sets get nice builds and have a good tone but they are weak as shit. Heavy weights build up more strength. Push ups are good and underated.. people think "gym" machines are better.. if u are willing to put in the hard work with push ups then they will pay off. Gym machines make the work out easier. |
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| SF-Fork Russian Federation. September 12 2003 10:40. Posts 889 | Profile |
We BW players have really strong fingers and probably bad vision.
Try playing with a 5 Kg mouse and your right arm will be strong! |
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| Just get the total gym like chuck norris! |
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| Iron[NM] United States. September 12 2003 13:25. Posts 57 | Profile |
| Gym machines do not make the workout easier. That was not the smartest thing I've read in a while. |
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| lomaxson Finland. September 12 2003 13:41. Posts 186 | Profile |
If ur muscles aint in maxim power and u train couple days very hard and eat properly and take some protein/hydrox/vitamin and you get much power in ur muscles and u can do many more reps than u did couple days before...
gtg
im going to the GYM right now.. |
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| Hicksville Denmark. September 12 2003 15:03. Posts 60 | Profile |
On September 11 2003 15:33 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Weights build bulky muscle, pushups build lean muscle.
what a load of crap. Muscles can get bigger or smaller. thats it
pretty basic fact of human physiology, really
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| Frits Netherlands. September 12 2003 16:13. Posts 10698 | Profile |
| hahahaha fork :-) Oh and hicksville i think obsolete is right about the bulky and lean muscle.... |
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| HovZ United States. September 12 2003 17:23. Posts 1917 | Profile |
| some of you guys are rly uninformed. how the hell would the amount of weight u lift in relation to the # of reps you do actually change how you rmuscles grow. if you work out u will get bigger stronger, thats it. |
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| GundamVX Korea (South). September 12 2003 17:42. Posts 1025 | Profile |
On September 12 2003 17:23 HovZ wrote:
some of you guys are rly uninformed. how the hell would the amount of weight u lift in relation to the # of reps you do actually change how you rmuscles grow. if you work out u will get bigger stronger, thats it.
It's because human beings have different kinds of muscle tissue (even in the same area of the body). |
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| kuwakJai Thailand. September 12 2003 18:14. Posts 194 | Profile Blog |
^^ nice.... yea Rockclimbing does own ! started it almost a yr now, outdoor only a few months ago. Nothing like a nice climb followed by a nice dip in the hot springs... aaahh good stuff.
Oh, talking bout physiques.... guys check out Lee Priest. I'm sure alot of u already know this dude.... but this guy is just a freak beyond freaks !!!! and of course.... Ronnie Coleman. o.O -- |
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| ShAsTa Belgium. September 12 2003 18:34. Posts 2437 | Profile |
micronesia?
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| Hicksville Denmark. September 13 2003 03:51. Posts 60 | Profile |
On September 12 2003 16:13 FrZ[9] wrote:
hahahaha fork :-) Oh and hicksville i think obsolete is right about the bulky and lean muscle....
well.. you are welcome to "think" anything you want of course. but the fact is he is wrong. you can look it up in any physiology book
if you lose FAT your muscles will of course appear more lean, but the muscles themselves can only grow big/small and CANNOT be shaped or whatever with any exercise.
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| MyztiC`Terran United States. September 13 2003 05:46. Posts 374 | Profile |
You could either do long reps of little weights or short reps with Heavier weights. Either way you might achieve the same results.
If you want a six-pack ( ) Then Try to put a 10 pounder on your chest and try 20 situps. |
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| C)R Canada. September 13 2003 07:27. Posts 549 | Profile |
On September 12 2003 17:50 RowdierBob wrote: Everybodys different =/ Ppl respond to different types of training in different ways. Willie - check this link: http://www.mensfitness.com/mens/also/030703/ironfree_workout.htmlit should be very helpful for what ur looking for. Who knows one day u can even be like me! (i torture myself with 140 pushups and 40pull ups a day . And no i dont care if u dont believe me) The key is just variation to target different groups. I can kick my friends who work out in a gym in a pull up contest, cause my body is used to doing them. They can bench 20kg+ more than me tho! HF  +it turns u into an uber good rockclimber (rockclimbing pwns)
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| RowdierBob Australia. September 13 2003 15:00. Posts 5168 | Profile Blog |
pfft not at once... i do reps 13+13+13 with 1 minute breaks.
SO I LIE ONLY 39
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| lomaxson Finland. September 13 2003 16:38. Posts 186 | Profile |
How many pullups can u make? at once point i could make max17 now i can make ~15 not sure 13-16...
Old friend of mine could do over 30 =/)-|O< but i hardly think that he would do so many anymore...
but it's soo fucking impossible to do pullup with 1 arm
not many ppl can do it... |
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| RowdierBob Australia. September 13 2003 17:34. Posts 5168 | Profile Blog |
I guess it depends which sort u do. I do wide overhand grip. I dunno if under or over is harder but it's just what im comfortable with (cause of all the damn rockclimbing =P ). Push Ups + Chin ups + dips will improve ur upper body strength by quite a bit tho. U just need dedication to ur workout.
I also have many friends who rockclimb semi-pro like (like the ppl on X-Games) They can all do 1 handed pull-ups. It's kinda freaky to see. They is heaps skinny(lite) tho and have basically no bodyfat. Just all muscle.Last edit: 2003-09-13 17:35:50 |
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| KiDDy Finland. September 13 2003 17:46. Posts 12 | Profile |
| some1 is suffering napoleon complex. |
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| ObsoleteLogic United States. September 13 2003 17:51. Posts 3676 | Profile |
I can do 5 pullups :D
Too much BW ): |
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| l2uShMarine United States. September 13 2003 18:02. Posts 168 | Profile |
| push ups help build muscle but its more about endurance,if u want huge biceps do reputitions with a curl bar |
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| sloppy United States. September 13 2003 18:10. Posts 27 | Profile |
| if you only work out one muscle group, you will eventually come to a point will you will not get stronger or bigger b/c all muscles rely on other muscles. for example, to do heavy curls you need a strong back and legs to support yourself. to get a big chest you need your shoulders and back to be strong also. |
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| Funktion Australia. September 13 2003 19:36. Posts 156 | Profile |
On September 12 2003 17:23 HovZ wrote:
some of you guys are rly uninformed. how the hell would the amount of weight u lift in relation to the # of reps you do actually change how you rmuscles grow. if you work out u will get bigger stronger, thats it.
It's pretty simple. If you do high weight/low reps you build big muscles. If you do low weight/high reps you tone your body. Both ways build muscle. But you will not always get bigger or at least not huge. Getting bigger for someone with a slim build for example takes a lot of effort. No matter how much heavy weight lifting you do you will only ever get toned and not huge, its the way a slim build person just is. Unless you go on a diet to gain weight. But that's a whole different story.
So it does make a very big difference what type of lifting and/or other exercises you do.
It is possible that iggs increased his reps like that. I've seen it done a million times. With such low weight its quite easy. It's no miracle or anything.
On September 13 2003 18:10 sloppy wrote:
if you only work out one muscle group, you will eventually come to a point will you will not get stronger or bigger b/c all muscles rely on other muscles. for example, to do heavy curls you need a strong back and legs to support yourself. to get a big chest you need your shoulders and back to be strong also.
Yeah that's exactly right. I know a lot of people who hate working their legs (me included) but you have to do it for overall growth. Your arms for example will stop gaining if you don't ever work your legs. And nobody likes sticking points in their lifting  Last edit: 2003-09-13 19:41:12 |
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| C)R Canada. September 13 2003 20:58. Posts 549 | Profile |
| lol 3 sets of 13 is still wicked, I can do 9or10 first set, then 6or7 then 3or4 |
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| lomaxson Finland. September 14 2003 14:06. Posts 186 | Profile |
I also have many friends who rockclimb semi-pro like (like the ppl on X-Games) They can all do 1 handed pull-ups. It's kinda freaky to see. They is heaps skinny(lite) tho and have basically no bodyfat. Just all muscle.
LOL this is total bullshit.
I know nobody who can make proper 1 pull up with 1arm and i bet that u know neither maybe u know 1 but...
I'we heard some boxers can do 1arm pull ups too but i doubt that they can make many of em..
should look to guines book of world records =) |
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| RowdierBob Australia. September 14 2003 16:27. Posts 5168 | Profile Blog | |
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| TeCh)PsylO United States. September 14 2003 16:49. Posts 3520 | Profile |
| i use to be able to a one arm pull up once. i would probably break my arm trying now though -__- all bw and no milk makes for bad bones! |
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| I can do 50 1arm pullups and all my friends and my mom can do so too |
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| The0ne United States. September 14 2003 19:17. Posts 89 | Profile |
| People who have huge muscles suck. It's better to work all the muscles for high endurance. Run Cross COuntry People, that will give you a six-pack no problem. Push-ups are GREAT for your body, they don't give you showing shit muscles, but ones that make you stronger. Rowdier Bob has got it right! The rock climber muscles own! |
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| Quiksilver United States. September 14 2003 19:35. Posts 424 | Profile |
| if you want to get huge just take some roids and go lift |
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| C)R Canada. September 14 2003 20:12. Posts 549 | Profile |
i can do a one hander chin up but a one hand pull up seems impossible
o and imo rock climber or even cross country runner's bodies is something not many ppl want. Obviously cuz you would want to be as light as possible; these ppl look weird and they're weak 2. Last edit: 2003-09-14 20:17:45 |
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| otherOne United States. September 15 2003 04:22. Posts 135 | Profile |
steroids are so bad long-term =[
like mr.fatty when you hit the 40's or something~ |
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