| knyttym United States. July 04 2008 19:30. Posts 5666 | Profile Blog # |
On July 04 2008 19:19 Showtime! wrote:
Is there any reason why I cannot get yaoyuan.com up? Says the live.php isn't found nor can I get the webpage to come up. Fucking weird.
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| B1nary Canada. July 04 2008 19:31. Posts 1050 | Profile Blog # |
On July 04 2008 19:27 disciple wrote:
who would expect backho to win on those two maps? seriously july played nice the second game, but all the credits to backho and the fact that he is so dumb... its good to see a decent play from tushin again but he has absolutely no chance against best
I wouldn't be too sure about that. Best's PvZ is good, but not spectacular. July has a decent chance of taking it. |
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| Krzycho Poland. July 04 2008 19:31. Posts 442 | Profile # |
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| St3MoR Spain. July 04 2008 19:31. Posts 2361 | Profile # | |
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| QuietIdiot July 04 2008 19:31. Posts 6999 | Profile Blog # |
On July 04 2008 19:24 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 04 2008 19:21 QuietIdiot wrote:
LOOOL PISS POOR GAME SENSE FOR BACKHO
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Well july did basically shut down backhos scouting with nicely timed scourge and constant management of them. Checking the base, looking for stray sairs etc. Makes it a lot harder to adapt. If you can't scout "game sense" is just an educated guess. It's very easy to be very wrong against a good zerg player.
There were many factors that attack was piss poor.
If he did assume he would kill the expansion, he should've weighed in the possible counters. The moment he didn't see any units there is the moment backho should've moved back and positioned his army to either retreat or to take on incoming defenses. He did neither and went back and forth trying to figure what to do next.
He built up a surmountable sair force, he probably gambled and assumed mutas would be the likely counter to his zeal raid, AND he went +1 upgrades for air, so that was huge. All that gas should've been invested in an earlier templar tech, and he was punished for being too conservative. A single speed zealot could've just ran by the front of july's expo and saw those hydras, let alone scout many variables to july's midgame unit combination.
His tactics in PvZ so far have been tic-tac-toe, and I find it sad/humorous. |
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 Exhale85 United States. July 04 2008 19:31. Posts 187 | Profile # |
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| Letmelose Korea (South). July 04 2008 19:32. Posts 642 | Profile Blog # |
On July 04 2008 19:24 Exhale85 wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 04 2008 19:21 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 04 2008 19:18 Exhale85 wrote:
watching PvZ seems so boring after watching Bisu play it better than all of this newer guys for a year straight
You post a lot of bullshit=/
Don't tell me you've seen better PvZ since Bisu at his height. No one has surpassed that type of play yet. OH SHIT WONDER GIRLS FUCKING HOT
If you're talking about performance not play, I'd agree with you. But you're disregarding the fact that zergs have gotten better since then. |
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| Dromar United States. July 04 2008 19:32. Posts 1777 | Profile Blog # |
On July 04 2008 19:27 Terranator wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 04 2008 19:19 Showtime! wrote:
Is there any reason why I cannot get yaoyuan.com up? Says the live.php isn't found nor can I get the webpage to come up. Fucking weird.
I'm on the yaoyuan stream and it's working fine
Me too. Do they close it when it's full or something?
I hope Backho wasn't kidding himself thinking he had a chance here. |
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| St3MoR Spain. July 04 2008 19:33. Posts 2361 | Profile # |
On July 04 2008 19:31 B1nary wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 04 2008 19:27 disciple wrote:
who would expect backho to win on those two maps? seriously july played nice the second game, but all the credits to backho and the fact that he is so dumb... its good to see a decent play from tushin again but he has absolutely no chance against best
I wouldn't be too sure about that. Best's PvZ is good, but not spectacular. July has a decent chance of taking it.
and july has the experience of 4 finals Best hasnt |
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| HaXxorIzed Australia. July 04 2008 19:34. Posts 4695 | Profile Blog # |
| Damn, Backho looks as if he hasn't prepared at all. Crumbling apart. |
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| Dromar United States. July 04 2008 19:35. Posts 1777 | Profile Blog # |
On July 04 2008 19:31 QuietIdiot wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 04 2008 19:24 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 04 2008 19:21 QuietIdiot wrote:
LOOOL PISS POOR GAME SENSE FOR BACKHO
CHRIST
Well july did basically shut down backhos scouting with nicely timed scourge and constant management of them. Checking the base, looking for stray sairs etc. Makes it a lot harder to adapt. If you can't scout "game sense" is just an educated guess. It's very easy to be very wrong against a good zerg player.
There were many factors that attack was piss poor. If he did assume he would kill the expansion, he should've weighed in the possible counters. The moment he didn't see any units there is the moment backho should've moved back and positioned his army to either retreat or to take on incoming defenses. He did neither and went back and forth trying to figure what to do next. He built up a surmountable sair force, he probably gambled and assumed mutas would be the likely counter to his zeal raid, AND he went +1 upgrades for air, so that was huge. All that gas should've been invested in an earlier templar tech, and he was punished for being too conservative. A single speed zealot could've just ran by the front of july's expo and saw those hydras, let alone scout many variables to july's midgame unit combination. His tactics in PvZ so far have been tic-tac-toe, and I find it sad/humorous.
Yeah I was thinking similarly. When there was absolutely nothing but a hatchery there, he could have left 2/3 zeals there, and taken on the (assumed) incoming defenses in a better position. When they didn't show, he could have figured out where they were going.
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| Exhale85 United States. July 04 2008 19:36. Posts 187 | Profile # |
| I meant specifically Bisu's performance + execution of his tactics. They're so high level that even he has trouble duplicating his old performance, and no one has been able to out perform his PvZ (at its height, mind you) since. Kal and Best come close but you can tell they can't execute the same agressive gorilla tactics (dt drops, dts sneaking in, reaver sair) that bisu pulled off with such ease. |
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| o[twist] United States. July 04 2008 19:37. Posts 4903 | Profile # |
| July does well with gorilla tactics... |
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On July 04 2008 19:31 B1nary wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 04 2008 19:27 disciple wrote:
who would expect backho to win on those two maps? seriously july played nice the second game, but all the credits to backho and the fact that he is so dumb... its good to see a decent play from tushin again but he has absolutely no chance against best
I wouldn't be too sure about that. Best's PvZ is good, but not spectacular. July has a decent chance of taking it.
I dont hail best's pvz, just saying july's play doesnt say anything atm...to say it right no toss has figured out yet how to play hwarangdo ( or how is it called) vs rock and vs backho ,july had cheap wins, andromeda is decent ZvP map as well. Lets not give away the golden mouse to july in front, he has the balanced maps yet to play |
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| Exhale85 United States. July 04 2008 19:37. Posts 187 | Profile # |
| Backho looks like he is having trouble grasping the basics of PvZ needed to make it to the finals of a starleague. People who aren't well rounded in all 3 matchups don't deserve to play for a Starleague Title |
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| Vivi57 United States. July 04 2008 19:38. Posts 6440 | Profile Blog # |
On July 04 2008 19:36 Exhale85 wrote:
I meant specifically Bisu's performance + execution of his tactics. They're so high level that even he has trouble duplicating his old performance, and no one has been able to out perform his PvZ (at its height, mind you) since. Kal and Best come close but you can tell they can't execute the same agressive gorilla tactics (dt drops, dts sneaking in, reaver sair) that bisu pulled off with such ease.
That's because zergs expect it and are much better at defending against this. |
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| arbiter_md Moldova. July 04 2008 19:38. Posts 800 | Profile # |
| If BackHo wouldn't have beaten Bisu, we would have seen a July vs Bisu match now. |
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| Showtime! Canada. July 04 2008 19:38. Posts 2938 | Profile # |
well gomplayer, duam player, yy.com (get a blank page -- yes in explorer -.-; , stream mmses and TVAnts don't work, so bleh I don't know. licks balls o well july has it in the bag but it would have been nice to see him rape him. |
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| aev July 04 2008 19:39. Posts 166 | Profile Blog # |
| BackHo is a gay piece of shit. |
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| Exhale85 United States. July 04 2008 19:39. Posts 187 | Profile # |
On July 04 2008 19:38 arbiter_md wrote:
If BackHo wouldn't have beaten Bisu, we would have seen a July vs Bisu match now.
I think Jangbi woulda taken out Bisu. Bisu's PvP is looking so crappy lately. |
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