TL Mafia 3 [Night 5]

what about reasoning??? what about common sense?
what about the history? the previous game, when Empyrean(iirc) came along and said he was a detective and wanted to be a mayor...

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[GiTM]-Ace United States. November 04 2008 17:44. Posts 4833

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araav folca was gonna die regardless either tonight or next day

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Ace United States. November 04 2008 17:46. Posts 13559

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it doesnt matter what you think. Hindsight is 20/20.

Lynching Folca first was best for the town as he was an unproven DT. Stop trying to blame other people because they were smarter than you.

No sir I fully get it, however unless I can unlaunch my nuke there is not much we can do about it. I also wasn't posting as much because I didn't fully read the rules yet LOL! - RebirthofLegend in WaW Mafia

araav Armenia. November 04 2008 17:53. Posts 1590

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lol Ace? hindsight? what about http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80975&currentpage=36#712

there were lots of other guys saying the same

now we at least have some bandwagoners in "Folca list" and some others in "Ace list".
hopefully no DTs will die tonight

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Camlito Australia. November 04 2008 19:05. Posts 4036

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On November 04 2008 17:34 araav wrote:

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what about reasoning??? what about common sense?
what about the history? the previous game, when Empyrean(iirc) came along and said he was a detective and wanted to be a mayor...

Common sense? if folca turned green/red you wouldn't be talking about common sense.
Either way folca would die anyway - if ace died through lynching and was red, it was obvious folca would die next night anyway - i was just doing what the plan said and then slept for 10 hours...

sAviOr...

Mandalor Germany. November 04 2008 19:15. Posts 2165

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Let's stop putting blame on each other, it was a 50/50 thing anyway. Now we know Ace is scum and there is a small chance that folca was super lucky and Ace has a suicidal nature

Now everybody just ignore Ace, it's hilarious how he's trying to defend himself and go over the clues again, I will try to do something later today as well.

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Scorch Austria. November 04 2008 20:41. Posts 2940

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See, had we kept Folca alive for today, he would've been able to give us some valuable detective information before his demise. Or mafia would've killed him, in which case we'd be just as wise as we are now.
Well, at least we know what to do tomorrow.

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Artanis[Xp] Netherlands. November 04 2008 20:50. Posts 3458

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God damnit I knew it T_T

Ace United States. November 04 2008 20:56. Posts 13559

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I knew it too

Artanis[Xp] Netherlands. November 04 2008 21:05. Posts 3458

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He finally admits it!

(Couldn't wait till tomorrow since I'm leaving for WCG then)

Chezinu United States. November 04 2008 21:49. Posts 2895

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On November 04 2008 16:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Aznvaliance for his quote in profile saying the loser or dead man is set free

I like this one, stood out the most for me. Here we go again, is it too obvious?

lol, clueless in The Prism!

araav Armenia. November 04 2008 21:50. Posts 1590

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hahahahaha, good pic.

Ace, how unfortunate you got a Mafia (for all parties: townies, mafias, and of course - you)

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Mynock November 04 2008 22:38. Posts 4491

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OK, first of all, ALL IGNORE everything Ace says now, and all his reasoning from before. His last attempts will be to sow confusion anyway. His actions right after being accused made him suspicious to me, and if only I have seen this thread earlier and made my post earlier I might have been able to persuade the people to do the more logical thing, and keep both the information and the DT :/ Alas, I was too late, and besides, doesn't seem like anyone wanted to listen to me anyway.

Ace goes first I guess, and now we should look into people's reasonings for their votes. All those who were promoting lynching Ace based on solid arguments are now less of a suspect. All those promoting lynching Folca, especially on weak reasoning, should be considered somewhat suspicious. Somebody with the time for something like this, care to wade through the posts, and see who was supporting who?

People who voted for Folca at the very end should also be investigated further.

Also, detectives should probably look into the vote tallies now. I'm sure Ace tried to organize it so that mafia votes are spread evenly between Folca and him, so we have to consider that, but still, those votes should be checked by a detective. Maybe if you'e a detective in the first 25 you check Folca's list, if you're in the lower 25 you check Ace's list (this is hoping that the roles are spread evenly, hoping for the best case scenario in which we don't waste a voting check).

ZBiR Poland. November 04 2008 22:48. Posts 1056

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On November 04 2008 17:46 Ace wrote:
it doesnt matter what you think. Hindsight is 20/20.

Lynching Folca first was best for the town as he was an unproven DT. Stop trying to blame other people because they were smarter than you.

Seriously, you could stop playing a retard now.

Just post some "muahahaha, I owned you n00bz", compile your list, wait for the day and die.

Falcynn United States. November 04 2008 22:53. Posts 3597

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Alright, I'll be out all day today as well

But tomorrow I'll have all day free so I'll take that time to catch up with everything and update my blog.

Also Ace...you make a good argument for why we shouldn't lynch you, but seeing how well you organized last game it's hard to take anything you say completely seriously since we all know you're good at arguing and twisting things around.

/jumps on Ace lynching bandwagon (even though I was technically already on it).

ZBiR Poland. November 04 2008 22:54. Posts 1056

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On November 04 2008 17:44 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
araav folca was gonna die regardless either tonight or next day

yeah, but then (in case Folca was legit, which came true):
a) mafia would kill him, thus sparing some townie (and changing that Ace-Folca 50-50 dispute to 100% Ace=mafia agreement hopefully)
b) mafia wouldn't kill him, not wanting to expose Ace that early - so we would get some information from him, and he would die day 2

Seriously, Alventenie's idea was the best (about not killing Folca tonight, cause I don't think decaf was the best suspect).

HeRoS)Pink Canada. November 04 2008 22:56. Posts 336

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Well, atm if ace is mafia he did his job by slowing us for 1 day
on day 2 , we should not waste our lynch on him why?

1) eveeryone will vote for Ace so there wont be any information with the vote count thats almost certain , so we would have lost 2 day/night circle to kill 1 mafia? not that good to me.

2) we should ask vigi to kill him at night (remember that even if 3 vigi goes on him, 2 of them wont work and wont be lost)

What im trying to say is that we will lose important information from the day 2 lynch if we kill ace cuz as we have seen today almost none of us respected the instruction we had all agreed on and we will also lose information on voting pattern

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Empyrean November 04 2008 23:11. Posts 16299

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Hey, I'm going to be at physics lecture until 11:30, then at lunch, but I wouldn't mind getting a list of everyone's responses and behaviors, if you'd just wait for three and a half hours for me to get back.

ZBiR Poland. November 04 2008 23:16. Posts 1056

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On November 04 2008 22:56 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Well, atm if ace is mafia he did his job by slowing us for 1 day
on day 2 , we should not waste our lynch on him why?

1) eveeryone will vote for Ace so there wont be any information with the vote count thats almost certain , so we would have lost 2 day/night circle to kill 1 mafia? not that good to me.

2) we should ask vigi to kill him at night (remember that even if 3 vigi goes on him, 2 of them wont work and wont be lost)

What im trying to say is that we will lose important information from the day 2 lynch if we kill ace cuz as we have seen today almost none of us respected the instruction we had all agreed on and we will also lose information on voting pattern

That's a good idea, however it should be certain that a vigilante will frag him (and of course no one is saying that he, as a vigi, will do it). Probably it's gonna be dependant on clues we'll get tonight, if there's something more going for Aznvaliance, Midnightgladius or Decafchicken we should follow it and act as you say.

HeRoS)Pink Canada. November 04 2008 23:20. Posts 336

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On November 04 2008 23:16 ZBiR wrote:

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dont worry about a vigi going after ace, if we could kill on day 1 ,ace would already die tonigt
and yeah, we have to wait for a second set of clues before thinking who do we lynch tomorrow

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