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Hot_Bid   Braavos. November 04 2008 12:51. Posts 22099 | Profile Blog |
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Note: this newspost contains OSL spoilers, so if you are planning on watching the OSL VODs, read at your own risk.
Club Quarters Round of 8 Week One Recap Round of 8 Week Two Preview
We know two of the four Club Day MSL semifinalists. Both are Protoss, but surprise, none are Stork. Two PvT quarterfinal matches remain, and there's a very real chance for a snore-inducing all-Protoss semifinals. So far this week, I've watched Jangbi pass MSL quarters, Stork win the OSL finals, CJ lose to Samsung in Proleague, and now, the best hope for a non-PvP semis is FireBatHero. I will now slowly stick my hand in an electrical socket.
Before we get to the games and previews, I'd like to add my thoughts on what happened in the OSL Finals:
Stork Delivers Game five of the Stork-Fantasy Incruit OSL Final put the single greatest amount of pressure on one player (Stork) in the history of progaming. It wasn't just the deciding game of the finals, but also the seminal moment in Stork's career. Legends and losers are forged in such moments, and to his credit, Stork passed with flying colors. He played solid and safe in a game that easily could have swung the other way, especially since Fantasy had the momentum after his brilliant dropship build on plasma. Stork 100% deserved to win. Yes, I just wrote that. No, this doesn't make me a Stork fan, just someone who can recognize great play. SKT1 fans dry your salty red tears and look on the bright side. Yes, Stork beat Bisu Best and Fantasy, but at least now you have a villain to cheer against.
Also, apparently Stork's teammates read my jinx thread, because they brought out the celebratory champagne bottles before game five was even over.
It's the night before the OSL Finals, Stork sits at his computer, practicing. He hears voices down the hall, getting closer. His teammates burst into the room.
FireBatHero: (holding two bottles of champagne) Hey Stork what kind of victory champagne do you want?
Ever)P(TT: (dancing and smoking a victory cigar) FBH taught me this dance called TT Sambo!
Jangbi: (with a toolbelt) I modeled your Golden Mouse holder after the MSL trophy case I built myself.
Frozean: (videotaping with a camcorder) I'm getting footage of you for next season's intro.
Odin: (wearing Stork OSL Champ T-shirt) Wassup guys! I suck in Proleague!
Goojila'd
OSL Finals Schedule 3-2 Stork
Congratulations Kal, you luckboxed into the MSL semis because Stork prioritized the OSL Final over a Ro8 PvP series with you. Kal played very well, but if this was Quarterfinal D, his estimated chances would be... none percent. Stork beat Best, and Kal is not as good as Best. This season illustrates why it's so difficult to win more than one individual league at the same time. It's just impossibly hard to practice for two different matchups on different maps while still maintaining Proleague responsibilities. In fact, given the ever-shrinking skill gap between upper tier pros, it's quite an accomplishment just to qualify for both leagues. Only Bisu and Stork were able to do it this season, and both were fortunate to make it to the Round of 8. Bisu needed a tiebreak to get out of his nightmare OSL group, and Stork facing a combined zero Zerg opponents throughout both leagues. You have to be one of the top two players in the world to win an OSL or MSL, but to win both, you have to be incredibly lucky as well.
Game One @ Athena 2 + Show Spoiler [Show Summary] + Stork traded his first zealot and scouting probe for only one probe kill. Kal opened three gate goon, a build that automatically dies to DT. Fortunately for Kal, Stork went two gate expand and also foolishly lost a dragoon early on: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_11.jpg) Kal attacked with superior dragoon numbers and excellent focus fire: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_12.jpg) In this next screenshot, the colors look similar, so for your benefit, I've put a bright red circle around each of Stork's defending dragoons: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_13.jpg) This game was a build order win by Kal. It's tough to screw up 3 gate vs 2 gate, especially when your opponent wastes a critical unit or two early game. Kal 1-0 Stork
Game Two @ Destination + Show Spoiler [Show Summary] + Kal went one gate nexus after scouting only one gate in Stork's base. However, Stork proxied three gates on the left side of the map, and razed Kal's nexus: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_21.jpg) Kal was able to hold his ramp, and the next battle came a full twelve minutes later, with both players maxed: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_22.jpg) See that storm in the middle of the screenshot? That was a group of Kal's zealots melting before doing any damage. As a result, Stork rolled over Kal's army with plenty of units left over. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_23.jpg) Kal typed out soon after. How the game ended up as a 200 vs 200 battle after Stork secured such an advantage early game was beyond me. Kal was ahead on tech, but not by much. Stork 1-1 Kal
Game Three @ Medusa + Show Spoiler [Show Summary] + Kal opened two gate DT and Stork went two gate robo. Stork's probe attempted to push itself through the temple into Kal's base, but failed twice and was unable to see the citadel. While two gate robo normally should have an obs out in time to stop two gate DT, Stork had built several zealots and also researched range before making his robo. Thus, Kal's first DT had a timing window: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_31.jpg) The DT swiped nine probes, and Kal used this advantage to secure an extra base. While Stork killed Kal's backdoor mineral base with a DT drop, this delayed Stork's high templars and storm research, allowing Kal to attack: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_32.jpg) Kal did not take down the nexus but succeeded in trading armies. With a large economy advantage, Kal ended it a few minutes later when Stork moved out to the center of the map: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_33.jpg) I don't understand why Stork switched to reavers late game despite having an archives already. But I doubt it mattered, because at that point Kal was already too far ahead. Kal 2-1 Stork
Game Four @ Byzantium 2 + Show Spoiler [Show Summary] + Kal opened 14 nexus with cannons. While this build may work on practice partners and low level Big Game Hunters players, it had a none percent chance of success against a top PvP player. Stork saw the cannons, proxied a robo, and eventually pushed in with reavers: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_41.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_42.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_43.jpg) Kal had less units, slower tech, and no eco advantage due to the dozen cannons he had to build. It kind of makes you wonder how many times this build worked back in the STX house and who Kal practiced with. Stork 2-2 Kal
Game Five @ Athena 2 + Show Spoiler [Show Summary] + Both players opted for a very safe robo before second gate. The critical battle occurred both players had seven goons, two zealots, and one reaver each: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_51.jpg) As you can see, Stork's attacking units were badly positioned and took massive amounts of splash damage from Kal's reaver. Also, Stork's reaver came in at a bad angle and could not fire as many shots. His army weakened, Stork was forced to keep all his units at his natural choke to stop Kal from containing him at his ramp. Kal faked an attack while his his reaver flew into Stork's main, causing a late probe flee-transfer. As a result, Kal was able to fire off a few successful scarabs: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_52.jpg) After returning home to get a second reaver, Kal crushed Stork's army in the middle of the map: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Kal_Stork_53.jpg) Kal advanced to the semifinals. Stork seemed disappointed but distant, his thoughts clearly dwelling on an OSL Final that was just 48 hours away. Kal 3-2 Stork
SparkyZvP Fails Hard
JangBi 3-0 YellOw[ArnC]
OGN's Terrans are very good against Zerg, and their Zergs are very good against Terran. This isn't surprising, as their Terrans practice with their Zergs. However, OGN only has two Protosses who have seen action in Proleague this season: Chalrenge (1-5) and Spear (1-1). When your best P is Spear, how do you practice for a ZvP quarterfinal?
Yarnc: Thanks for practicing with me Spear, I can't believe my two hatch muta rush worked fifteen straight times on you! Spear: Jangbi won't know what hit him!!
Last week, I predicted Yarnc would win this series. It turns out that I forgot to edit that section, so here is what I meant to write:
So, easy pick right? On paper, Jangbi should wipe the floor with Yarnc. A smart, logical person who is untainted by bias would predict a 3-0 Jangbi win without thinking twice. I, however, am not that person. I cannot explain or support why I think Yarnc will win, but there comes a time in a man's life when he must go with his instincts. I believe Yarnc's ZvP has a breakthrough in this series.
My predictions are so accurate!
As I watched this series, I was amazed at how stubborn Yarnc was with his mutas. He always sticks with them too long. I know his muta control is good, but when the P attacks with six corsairs and two archons, no amount of strafing is going to save him.
On the whole, this series was three very painful games littered with cheese builds, bad decisions, and futile all-ins from Yarnc.
Game One @ Destination + Show Spoiler [Show Summary] + Jangbi opened Sair-DT while Yarnc went four base mutas into lurkers. Jangbi successfully snuck a DT into Yarnc's main. Yarnc saw this but eventually forgot the DT was there. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Jangbi_Yarnc_11.jpg) Nine drone kills later, Jangbi was significantly ahead. Yarnc's mutas melted from the corsairs and archons, and a minute or so later, Jangbi's first standard ground army obliterated Yarnc's hydra lurker force: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Jangbi_Yarnc_12.jpg) Note the 0-0 upgrades on Yarnc's units. Soon after, Jangbi ran over Yarnc's third gas: Jangbi 1-0 Yarnc
Game Two @ Byzantium 2 + Show Spoiler [Show Summary] + Yarnc five pooled. Jangbi scouted the lings and abandoned his front forge to put up a cannon near his nexus. Even though the two players were at cross positions, the cannon was only halfway warped when the lings arrived. However, Jangbi sent two probes to Yarnc's base and not only killed a drone but also made Yarnc look away from his lings in Jangbi's main: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Jangbi_Yarnc_21.jpg) Even losing his lings, Yarnc was very ahead. He had three hatches and good saturation while Jangbi was on one base and only had one gate. Yarnc used speedlings to shut down Jangbi's first attempt to retake his nat, but then suicided two groups of lings into zealots, probes, and one cannon: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Jangbi_Yarnc_23.jpg) Yarnc's five pool and his unwillingness to play for late game demonstrated his lack of confidence in his ZvP. Instead of building his lead by taking bases and playing defensively, Yarnc tried to go for the kill. Then he let Jangbi sneak a DT into his main despite scouting the archives, which killed five drones, razed his spawning pool, and halted mining. A few minutes later, Yarnc's muta harass did not do enough damage, and Jangbi attack-moved into Yarnc's natural with three archons and a group of zealots. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Jangbi_Yarnc_24.jpg) Yarnc's bad planning, decisions, execution led to an embarrassing defeat. Jangbi 2-0 Yarnc
Game Three @ Medusa + Show Spoiler [Show Summary] + Yarnc opened overpool gas, but as soon as he killed the scouting probe, went lair and resumed gas mining. Jangbi seemed fooled initially, making three cannons at his choke and blocking with probes in anticipation of a speedling runby. However, Jangbi would soon sense that something was wrong when there were no speedlings containing his probe scout. At this point it was obvious to everyone, including Jangbi, that Yarnc was not going to play straight up. Some type of cheese was coming, and Jangbi added a stargate and cannons at his main and front to prepare for both mutas and hydras. Yarnc's mutas did get some kills, but he skimped heavily on drones. Yarnc needed to kill a nexus but Jangbi's corsairs and cannons didn't let him. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Jangbi_Yarnc_31.jpg) Jangbi progressed to reaver tech, and traded his shuttle, reaver, and two zealots four eight or nine drones: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Jangbi_Yarnc_32.jpg) At this point, everything Yarnc did was a few minutes behind in timing. His upgrades were late, his third base was late, and his hydra switch was late. When Yarnc moved out with hydras, a control group of Jangbi's sairs flew in and killed all his overlords: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLRo8W2/Jangbi_Yarnc_33.jpg) Yarnc's twelve hydras saw two reavers and four cannons at Jangbi's choke, and Yarnc conceded shortly after, with three minimally saturated bases and a Protoss opponent with double his supply. Jangbi 3-0 Yarnc
Round of 8 Week Two Preview
firebathero vs Bisu + Show Spoiler [Show Stats] + Player / Matchup / Last 10 / Last 3 Months / Head-to-Head firebathero / TvP / 9-1 / 6-1 / 2-2 Bisu / PvT / 4-6 / 5-7 / 2-2
FireBatHero has only lost once in his last ten PvTs. Just a few weeks ago he was terrible at it, and now he's a TvP beast. FBH plays a style that is effective and entertaining, mixing in dropships and aggressive two factory builds . Bisu on the other hand does not have the pretty stats, but seemed stronger than ever in his 2-0 victory over Hwasin. In the MSL Round of 32, FBH used dropship harass to beat Bisu in a long macro game on Byzantium 2. However, in this best of five, I believe Bisu has the advantage because Medusa (8-4 PvT) is the map played twice. Destination, Athena 2, and Byzantium 2 are all statistically balanced PvT. Also, I do not think FBH will be able to surprise Bisu with dropship play this time around. Neither has the practice time edge, as both players have recently played in Proleague in non-PvT/TvP matchups. This will be a close and exciting series, as these two have the most momentum out of any of the Round of 8 players. I expect the winner of this match to advance to the finals. Prediction: Bisu > FBH, 3-2.
HUK?? Does anyone else think it'd be awesome if Bisu showed up to the match in his white surgeon mask, got on stage, and with slow, intense, overly dramatic motions, removed the mask while pointing menacingly at FBH?
free vs NaDa + Show Spoiler [Show Stats] + Player / Matchup / Last 10 / Last 3 Months / Head-to-Head free / PvT / 6-4 / 5-1 / 1-0 NaDa / TvP / 4-6 / 2-1 / 0-1
Both Free and Nada are playing much better than their PvT/TvP records indicate. Free is 7-2 in Proleague and is carrying perennial loser Woongjin Stars to a surprising 4-4 record. Nada only has one loss in the last two months, but it was against Free in their MSL Round of 32 group. The game was on Athena 2 and Free won easily. A series, however, is a different animal, and Nada is dangerous as ever. Nada will do risky, tricky things like his goliath break against Frozean. He will also make smart, experienced, veteran decisions. But Nada cannot overpower Free. The series hinges on one question: which Free will show up? The confident, streaking Protoss who is 13-3 overall in the past two months, or the nervous wreck who lost to two Airforce ACE Terrans? Free could win this series 3-0 or lose 0-3 and I would not be surprised either way. However, watching Free's behavior after winning yet another Ace match for Woongjin, it seemed as though he has turned the corner. No longer encumbered by sponsor or salary issues, Free is, well, free. He is finally able to focus on practicing with no external worries. When Free plays well, he has a Best or Bisu level potential. If Free shows up to play, there's nothing that Nada can do. Free > Nada, 3-1.
HUK?? Did you guys see Free's post-match PL celebration where he pulled his shirt and pointed at the WOongjin logo? He sure is proud. This prompted me to look up what Woongjin actually does. It turns out their company's principal activity is manufacturing and selling water filtration devices, air purifiers, and other bathroom and kitchen appliances. No wonder all the Stars are happy, they have the best toilets, ovens, and cleaning appliances in all of Korea.
Next Week Recap of the FBH-Bisu and Free-Nada matches, and preview of the two semifinal matches. Two things fill me with dread: (1) that one of our finalists must be Jangbi or Kal, and (2) we could very well see an all-Samsung finals. Can the MSL just disqualify everyone and make Bisu-FBH the true Finals?
See you next week!Last edit: 2008-11-04 14:10:50 |
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Superiorwolf   United States. November 04 2008 14:17. Posts 2978 | Profile Blog | |
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iLoveKT   Philippines. November 04 2008 14:21. Posts 1670 | Profile Blog |
I would hate an ALL P semis either.
I dont hope for FBH to win. Instead I hope for NaDa to win.
/me hopes. |
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ChaoSbringer   Australia. November 04 2008 14:23. Posts 579 | Profile Blog |
| Nice write up, LOL @ Yarnc + Spear exchange |
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Mikilatov   United States. November 04 2008 14:25. Posts 1938 | Profile Blog |
Good commentary on the situation, hotbid.
I'm really bummed that Kal took out Stork... Oh well. Go free! |
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littlechava   United States. November 04 2008 14:30. Posts 6288 | Profile Blog |
this msl is so painful
i really want free to win, and i really want fbh to lose
but i REALLY REALLY dont want pvp galore |
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Seraphim   United States. November 04 2008 14:31. Posts 4203 | Profile Blog |
| Awesome write-up, Hot_Bid! |
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spydernoob   Canada. November 04 2008 14:55. Posts 1040 | Profile Blog |
| firebathero for msl title |
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Descent   November 04 2008 14:59. Posts 1148 | Profile |
There is so much win in this news post. Fantastic~
Hot_Bid, your writing is quite entertaining. =SLast edit: 2008-11-04 15:00:06 |
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luiohh   Bangladesh. November 04 2008 15:00. Posts 78 | Profile |
On November 04 2008 12:51 Hot_Bid wrote:
HUK?? Did you guys see Free's post-match PL celebration where he pulled his shirt and pointed at the WOongjin logo? He sure is proud. This prompted me to look up what Woongjin actually does. It turns out their company's principal activity is manufacturing and selling water filtration devices, air purifiers, and other bathroom and kitchen appliances. No wonder all the Stars are happy, they have the best toilets, ovens, and cleaning appliances in all of Korea.
See you next week!
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anch   United States. November 04 2008 15:02. Posts 3856 | Profile Blog |
HUK?? Does anyone else think it'd be awesome if Bisu showed up to the match in his white surgeon mask, got on stage, and with slow, intense, overly dramatic motions, removed the mask while pointing menacingly at FBH?
what show is this from, Team Medical Dragon? or NDS game, Trauma Center? |
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HaXxorIzed   Australia. November 04 2008 15:09. Posts 3811 | Profile Blog |
| Bisu/FBH is a game I am waiting for with interest. Time to see how Bisu handles a style that caught him off guard last time. |
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Terranator   Canada. November 04 2008 15:41. Posts 196 | Profile |
| So hard to pick between Free and Nada. Whoever wins that is who I'm cheering for to the end. |
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SingletonWilliam   United States. November 04 2008 15:46. Posts 508 | Profile |
Why do FBH, Bisu, Free, and Nada all have to be on the same side of the bracket? I'd take any one of them over Jangbi or Kal.
Oh well Free>Nada and FBH>Bisu |
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Ozarugold   November 04 2008 15:47. Posts 1830 | Profile Blog |
Nice read. I'm a bit torn because I want Bisu, Nada, or FBH to take this MSL but I can't decide on who should take it...
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Railz   United States. November 04 2008 15:57. Posts 1185 | Profile |
| A Nada vs FBH Semifinal would be...something else... |
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zer0das   United States. November 04 2008 15:58. Posts 1938 | Profile Blog |
Eh... I think Kal would have a shot at beating Stork even without the OSL finals looming for Stork. Although a fast expand with cannons as defense? He must have been thinking "Hey, I have a one game lead, why not do something screwy, it just might work!"
Because seriously... >_> |
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SerpentFlame   November 04 2008 16:20. Posts 195 | Profile Blog |
"it's quite an accomplishment just to qualify for both leagues. Only Bisu and Stork were able to do it this season"
Am I mistaken, or did Backho qualify for both leagues as well? |
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clazziquai   November 04 2008 16:25. Posts 6685 | Profile Blog |
Thanks for writing this article. lol @ the Spear/Yellow dialogue.
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thopol   United States. November 04 2008 16:25. Posts 1005 | Profile Blog |
On November 04 2008 16:09 capek wrote: btw, there are no red circles around stork's dragoons for game1
That's the idea. |
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capek   United States. November 04 2008 16:46. Posts 585 | Profile |
On November 04 2008 16:25 thopol wrote: Show nested quote +On November 04 2008 16:09 capek wrote: btw, there are no red circles around stork's dragoons for game1
That's the idea.
ah. i see what he did there. |
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Jyvblamo   Canada. November 04 2008 16:50. Posts 4760 | Profile Blog |
On November 04 2008 16:20 SerpentFlame wrote: "it's quite an accomplishment just to qualify for both leagues. Only Bisu and Stork were able to do it this season"
Am I mistaken, or did Backho qualify for both leagues as well?
I don't think he counted the OSL RO16 nor the MSL RO32. |
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fanatacist   Angola. November 04 2008 17:27. Posts 9486 | Profile Blog |
I don't want all P either... Bisu ftw, maybe Nada... But it's a tough pick T_T
Thanks for the write up n_n |
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soudo   November 04 2008 17:34. Posts 502 | Profile |
Unless this MSL's winner is Bisu or Nada, this is going to be a pretty disappointing MSL. I love Free and FBH, but having those guys get gold just doesn't seem right. Other guys like Iris, Midas, and even Yellow are far more deserving. These three just happened to peak at the wrong time (i.e, when Savior and Boxer were still kicking ass)
As for Kal or Jangbi winning the whole thing - are you kidding me? They're supposed to be the fall guys for true winners, much like what GoodFriend was to July. Their role is to be a stepping stone, not a champion.
Just look at the list of past MSL champions: Nada, iloveoov, Savior, Nal_Ra. Now add Jangbi to that list - wouldn't that list feel so...tainted? |
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baubo   China. November 04 2008 19:16. Posts 1843 | Profile |
LOL at the Yarnc's practice comment. Seriously, he and his brother both need some seriouis ZvP training ASAP. Yet they're both on teams with no top protosses.
On November 04 2008 17:34 soudo wrote: Just look at the list of past MSL champions: Nada, iloveoov, Savior, Nal_Ra. Now add Jangbi to that list - wouldn't that list feel so...tainted?
MSL has been a bit disappointing lately, with ForGG and Mind winning the last 2 of 3. |
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GHOSTCLAW   United States. November 04 2008 19:47. Posts 10241 | Profile Blog |
On November 04 2008 16:09 capek wrote: btw, there are no red circles around stork's dragoons for game1
I figured someone would say this xD
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RaGe   Belgium. November 04 2008 20:51. Posts 7609 | Profile Blog |
Very nice writeup.
Personally, I'm hoping Jangbi will take the MSL. He's really impressive, and might become a true champion one day. |
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Uraeus   France. November 04 2008 21:57. Posts 1032 | Profile |
I just love Hot_Bid's reports. I laughed hard at the "bright red circles under Stork's defending goons" ans the Yarnc-Spear dialog. Oh, and Bisu will win this MSL. |
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Geo.Rion   Romania. November 04 2008 22:12. Posts 2081 | Profile Blog |
| your invented conversations among the teammets are hillarious, keep up the good work |
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Geo.Rion   Romania. November 04 2008 22:14. Posts 2081 | Profile Blog |
On November 04 2008 19:47 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote: Show nested quote +On November 04 2008 16:09 capek wrote: btw, there are no red circles around stork's dragoons for game1
I figured someone would say this xD
yeah, mee too P Very intelligant joke, Hot_Bid |
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Dvz(Dark)   Panama. November 04 2008 22:26. Posts 12 | Profile |
I was very disapointed with Stork's defeat, but now I realized that he already left to Germany for WCG. So he decided to win OSL and just to leave MSL for another guys. There are only two guys who have been playing really well on this MSL: Firebathero and Bisu and they are going to fight soon not in the finals!!! A Protoss vs Protoss final will suck, but if Bisu can kick Kal's ass, I will pay for see it. If Firebathero advances he will become the most popular player and we will see his TV dancing comercials all over the world. I just hope this final to be FUN and that is it.
Stork vs Mondragon on the WCG finals! |
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NiGoL   Sweden. November 04 2008 22:35. Posts 726 | Profile |
| go jangbi, i cheer for u this time! |
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RamenStyle   November 04 2008 23:31. Posts 1567 | Profile |
Nice as always, but you could have given Kal a little bit more of credit. You wrote him up like he was some scrub, and granted he is not at Stork's level yet, but he is still a work in progress, and has so much room for improvement he could be there at the very top in a few months.
Btw, I have this scary feel in my gut that tells me FBH is going thru.*Shrivers* |
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Chill   Canada. November 05 2008 00:32. Posts 12187 | Profile Blog |
| Nice. Thanks a lot for this. |
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cujo2k   Canada. November 05 2008 00:44. Posts 671 | Profile |
On November 04 2008 19:16 baubo wrote: LOL at the Yarnc's practice comment. Seriously, he and his brother both need some seriouis ZvP training ASAP. Yet they're both on teams with no top protosses.
IDK man, KTF has 2 solid P's in tempest and lucifer.. a lot better than OGN has anyway. Also better than Lecaf has with just Backho, and Jaedong's ZvP is disgusting.. although, I think they locked him in a room with anytime, and and a zvp monster came out of it. |
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rKos   Finland. November 05 2008 02:44. Posts 122 | Profile |
| Even though I don't agree with your predictions etc., these write ups are hilarious. |
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Hyperionnn   Turkey. November 05 2008 04:04. Posts 3487 | Profile Blog |
Awesome news post man 
On November 04 2008 16:09 capek wrote: btw, there are no red circles around stork's dragoons for game1
LAWL |
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Not_Computer   Canada. November 05 2008 04:14. Posts 1465 | Profile Blog |
firebathero vs bisu would have been a great finals... too bad it won't happen
i can't imagine a jangbi or kal msl champ.. it's so... odd... i can't describe
and lol @ the spear/yarnc convo and the star's reason for happiness |
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Lucktar   United States. November 05 2008 05:44. Posts 291 | Profile |
I laughed really hard at this article, and now my roommate is looking at me like I'm crazy.  |
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R3condite   Korea (South). November 05 2008 05:55. Posts 1536 | Profile |
FBH vs Bisu SHOULD be the final....
maybe the foreign community could just boycott the real final and declare FBH vs Bisu as the final
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RoieTRS   United States. November 05 2008 07:01. Posts 1026 | Profile Blog |
FBH > Bisu tbh, if you don't agree with me, you're too stupid to know what I'm talking about =P
+ Show Spoiler + I'm kidding, it was funny. No wonder you hate FBH you humorless jerks. |
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imperfect   Canada. November 05 2008 07:03. Posts 1037 | Profile Blog |
fuck i dont want all pvp semifinal, as much as i love the race.
it's just not cool. i hoped for kal to drop, and jangbi to advance..
as for bisu and free, it saddens me greatly. i want both to win so bad T-T bisu looks to be in a great form as of late, and free.. well yeah he's been carrying his PL team for awhile now. |
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Piste   Finland. November 05 2008 07:22. Posts 2645 | Profile Blog |
I can clearly smell the stork-fanboyism from hot_bid's writing. Kal won by pure skill and more clever play, not becouse of lucky build orders or becouse stork was concentrating to OSL finals... OSL finals are not a reason to maky silly mistakes.Last edit: 2008-11-05 07:23:02 |
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IntoTheWow   Argentina. November 05 2008 07:23. Posts 25193 | Profile Blog |
| hUk hUk nice reports! keep it up |
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Piste   Finland. November 05 2008 07:35. Posts 2645 | Profile Blog |
I wouldn't call Medusa A protoss map yet, imho the record is more becouse of the players than becouse of the map. I haven't watched many PvT's on it tho. Imho it looks so good for terrans.. For me it seems that toss has hard time expanding after those first two naturals, but we'll see  |
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GHOSTCLAW   United States. November 05 2008 07:59. Posts 10241 | Profile Blog |
On November 05 2008 07:22 Piste wrote: I can clearly smell the stork-fanboyism from hot_bid's writing. Kal won by pure skill and more clever play, not becouse of lucky build orders or becouse stork was concentrating to OSL finals... OSL finals are not a reason to maky silly mistakes.
It does mean that you get a lot less practice time though, and that can lead to mistakes. Stork wasn't really practicing for his set against Kal, and it showed. How do you know that it showed? Stork vs Best. |
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Gokey   United States. November 05 2008 08:33. Posts 2460 | Profile |
Hilarious write-up...
Loved the Yarnc vs Spear part, and love the idea of Bisu slowly removing mask, gesturing menacingly at FBH, and then owning him 3-0 (I would die laughing) |
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Mastermind   Canada. November 05 2008 08:35. Posts 2954 | Profile Blog |
| Great write up. A few of the pictures are extremely blurry to the point that it is impossible to see what is going on. |
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SilverSkyLark   Philippines. November 05 2008 09:05. Posts 5109 | Profile Blog |
| If Nada and FBH makes it through, I'll be very happy, another PvT finals. |
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baubo   China. November 05 2008 10:42. Posts 1843 | Profile |
On November 05 2008 00:44 cujo2k wrote: Show nested quote +On November 04 2008 19:16 baubo wrote: LOL at the Yarnc's practice comment. Seriously, he and his brother both need some seriouis ZvP training ASAP. Yet they're both on teams with no top protosses.
IDK man, KTF has 2 solid P's in tempest and lucifer.. a lot better than OGN has anyway. Also better than Lecaf has with just Backho, and Jaedong's ZvP is disgusting.. although, I think they locked him in a room with anytime, and and a zvp monster came out of it.
Forgot about Tempest, but you're right. Still, it doesn't take away from the fact that both of the twins have looked horrible in ZvP. |
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Grobyc   Canada. November 05 2008 12:44. Posts 5315 | Profile Blog |
On November 04 2008 12:51 Hot_Bid wrote: Yarnc: Thanks for practicing with me Spear, I can't believe my two hatch muta rush worked fifteen straight times on you! Spear: Jangbi won't know what hit him!!
LOL i love this.. |
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amorpheus   Bulgaria. November 05 2008 16:12. Posts 1549 | Profile |
Excellent read, thanks. I dont think Kal is a bad option for playing in the final though. Especially compared to Jang bee and FagBH |
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thunk   United States. November 05 2008 23:30. Posts 5608 | Profile Blog |
On November 04 2008 14:30 littlechava wrote: this msl is so painful
The story of the MSL is like, "I practiced really hard for the group stages but was too busy to practice for the quarterfinal". The quality of the OSL games was so much better.
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Disarray   United States. November 06 2008 09:41. Posts 752 | Profile |
agian, hot_bid your writing style makes me hot_in_the_pants
if you know what i mean |
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InfeSteD   United States. November 06 2008 12:55. Posts 4392 | Profile Blog |
I liked the read... thank u
HUK?? Did you guys see Free's post-match PL celebration where he pulled his shirt and pointed at the WOongjin logo? He sure is proud. This prompted me to look up what Woongjin actually does. It turns out their company's principal activity is manufacturing and selling water filtration devices, air purifiers, and other bathroom and kitchen appliances. No wonder all the Stars are happy, they have the best toilets, ovens, and cleaning appliances in all of Korea.
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Inzek   Chile. November 07 2008 00:36. Posts 131 | Profile | |
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GrandInquisitor   New York City. November 08 2008 13:33. Posts 7690 | Profile Blog | |
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Sanzenin   Korea (South). November 11 2008 22:11. Posts 5 | Profile Blog |
| 이번 ClubDay MSL 우승자는 김택용!! |
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