Register


Active : 1071
Logged in : 359
Time: 04:59 KST

User Streams
39 online (5 live)
Home | Forum | VODs | Liquibet | Fantasy | Blogs | Liquipedia | Articles | Store
Search TeamLiquid.net
Starcraft Progaming News
[OSL] Reach For The Stars
[TSL] Go Go Go!
[PL] Lim-Jin Rok
[TSL] Ladder with Legends
[OSL] The End of the Begi…
Featured Threads
TL User Locations
Recommended VODs of rece…
Small Vod Thread.
Funny Quotes from TL's I…
Team Liquid Manpower
General Forum
Marijuana in American Cu…
Swine flu vaccine
Kpop discussion thread
"Fall of the Republic"
Participants needed for …
Starcraft 2 Forum
New secret art on SC2.com
Vote for SC2 in Spike's …
StarCraft II Q&A Batch 55
Zerg spies?
Data Editor: Mod Examples
Starcraft: Brood War Forum
Post your cheese/rush/fu…
What's up with Nada?
Help with weird iccup er…
[CSL+] News and Announce…
KeSPA Dream League
Starcraft Tournaments and Leagues
[SPL] STX Soul vs Samsun…
3v3 BGH Random Races Tou…
[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs W…
[MSL] Group Selection
[SPL] Airforce ACE vs KT…
Starcraft Strategy Forum
[H] ZvP 2 gates on outsi…
Liquipedia.net
Why does destination fav…
[Q]Protoss FE vs 5 pool?
[Q] Gas Timings for 3Hat…
Sports & Games Forum
NCAA Football 2009
modern warfare 2
League of Legends
NFL 2009!!!
NCAA Basketball 09-10 Th…
Blogs
Starcraft Replays
KawaiiRice - MistrZZZ
By.FlaSh - Best[WHITE]
By.FlaSh - Tempest)Is(
Light[aLive] - By.hero
Bisu - HyuK


Website Feedback

Closed Threads

IRC Updated
irc.quakenet.org #teamliquid

IRC Web Client
New to Team Liquid? Register here!

[PL] Stats Report Week 5

Forum index > News
  SpiralArchitect   United States. November 08 2008 07:51. Posts 2116Profile Blog 
[image loading]

Banner by pachi


Five weeks of Shinhan Proleague are now behind us. In the past weeks we have mostly seen what is to be expected from the current teams involved. With the exception of SKTelecom 1 trying their hardest to be last and the Woongjin Stars shooting for the… well stars, the rankings have been somewhat predictable. Week five turned that notion on its head and gave us quite a few interesting changes.

The Big Picture
Right now Lecaf OZ has put themselves in a very precarious position. They came off the blocks strong and their lineup can certainly maintain it. But they have also revealed their most potent strategies early in the season and made themselves a target for every other team. It was evident that they would lose their six-game winning streak at some point and it happened this week.

[image loading]


KTF and KHAN are both looking at the big picture by preparing for the playoffs. KHAN was especially slowed in the first weeks as many of their dominant players duked it out in the individual leagues. But now, FireBatHero is done with the MSL, Stork has WCG until next week and Jangbi is in the semi-finals of the MSL. Samsung should pick up the pace when Stork and Jangbi are back and ready to focus on Proleague.

The middle of the rankings are the real battlefield this season. The five teams that reside there are barely one match apart, and each week is a fight for position. STX and MBC came out doing well at four and five, OGN dropped quite a bit to number six, and WeMade continued their mediocre streak. However, the big winner here is the Woongjin Stars, who have seriously stepped it up this season behind free. Now that they have GGPlay back, can they continue their Cinderella run?

Team Standings

Lecaf OZ finally lost a game this week making them 6-1. Their downfall came at the hands of MBC Hero. While Lecaf is still at +6/19-13, KHAN is now right behind them. MBC moved up a few positions following their win over Lecaf. They are now 4-3 with an individual record of 18-15. Their win loss ratio is very close to Lecafs, I think they will definitely be a top spot contender before playoff time.

Samsung KHAN is one of the most fearsome Proleague teams out there. They are only one loss behind Lecaf in matches and games at +5 (5-2/19-14). They started the season with a two game losing streak but have since gone on to win five games in a row. They seemed shaken by the loss of 2v2 at first but now, they seem to have adjusted well.

Team Standings

[image loading]

Detailed Match Statistics

+ Show Spoiler +


In third place is the KTF Magicns, a team which has yet to receive a bye week. They are now 6-3/23-16 which actually gives them more points than any other team at +7. KTF has a fearsome lineup which always ends with Flash or Luxury, allowing them strong and flexible ace options.

July and company are doing well for themselves this season. Their first loss was to MBC Hero back in week two. Then they gave away a win to the Woongjin Stars. Though the Stars are a good team this year STX should have beaten them. Soul is now 5-3, going 20-18 which is a scary stat. All of their games have been close, win or lose. STX is going to have to be more consistent if they want to be champions this season.

OGN Sparkyz went from second place last week to a dismal sixth. After defeating CJ Entus 3-2, they lost their next match to Woongjin 1-3. I blame it on go.go, I hate that guy. OGN is now 5-4/22-19 with those stats they should be able to put up better results in the next week or two. They cannot afford to drop games to teams like Woongjin though, especially as they struggle with the top tier teams and need to rack up wins on teams like ACE, eSTRO and the Stars.

[image loading]


The Woongjin Stars are doing something which I could not have foreseen: winning. They have discovered a powerhouse player in little Free and have used him twice in a match many times. They are practically tied with OGN at 5-4/19-18 and could easily bump them out of the top six next week. The Stars haven’t been dominant in a long time but it seems they have restructured and come back to win this season.

Two of my favorite teams occupy the bottom half of the rankings. SKTelecom T1 and CJ Entus are performing sub-par this season, especially considering the lineups they have. SKT is the most disappointing, at 3-6/18-24 and barely maintaining a lead on eSTRO. CJ is in the same boat though they have much less water coming in. They are 3-4, going 14-14 individually, but they have faced a string of dominant teams after their easy opening this season. Their lineup is great and they should move out of the bottom half soon. I wish I could say the same for WeMade FOX, but in my opinion they are a terrible team.

Once again eSTRO and ACE are the last two teams in the rankings. They faced off this week giving ACE their one and only win, 3-0 to be exact. This was a mini-upset considering eSTRO had been able to take all of their opponents to a final ace match, even KHAN and Lecaf. Both teams are now 1-7 which may lead you to believe they are somewhat even in skill, but the individual stats beg to differ. eSTRO is 15-23 which puts them at -8 while ACE is trying to set records by going 8-21 for a score of -13. Both of these teams are where they belong right now and they will probably still be there at the end of the season too.

Individual Statistics

Flash tops the individual rankings this week. He is 9-3 right now, taking losses from FBH, Jaedong and Tester. Flash is the anchor of KTF, whether he likes it or not. He is the only Terran in the top ten which may speak to the lack of Terrans this season or the imbalance of the maps. Either way Flash is here to stay and will probably continue to dominate the ranks this season.

[image loading]

Flash has many faces


Following close behind is Best at 8-3. The Protoss prodigy has played much better than the rest of his team, besides Bisu at number eight. Fantasy is third highest SKT player, just inside the top 25. SKT needs to fill out the bench if they want to move up in the standings.

Full Individual Ranking (Click)
(Courtesy of Pop and TLPD)

Pusan proves worthy of his nickname, bringing five wins to MBCs record and only one loss. He is in the seventh position, just ahead of Bisu. Saint is also in the top ten this month for MBC. Now 5-1 he has helped Pusan to carry his shaky team to a top six spot this week.

Free and Calm are both relatively new compared to the rest of the top ten, but both of them have proven invaluable to their teams. Free has won both of his ace matches and is now 7-2. Calm is 2-1 in ace matches and also 7-2 in regular matches.

The most shocking of statistics is perhaps the serious lack of Terrans in the top 25. The rankings are dominated by Zerg this week with ten players, followed by Terran with eight and Protoss with seven. Five of those eight Terrans are 20-25 and only one (Flash) is in the top ten. Zerg has four players in the top ten and Protoss has five.

Savior makes his return to the top 25 as he attempts to make good on his Blizzcon promise. He is now 4-1 in Proleague this season, dropping one game to Yellow[Arnc]. While Savior was ahead by a large margin in that ZvZ, it's not a surprise when you consider that fake Yellow's ZvZ and the fact that he's been carrying OGN on his back. The two of them are dead even in points in the 14th and 15th positions. Savior is the only player in the top 25 for CJ.

[image loading]


Lecaf only has two players in the top 25. Their bench roster is amazingly strong though, leaving Jaedong and forGG to worry about the tough matches and their roles as ace players. However, neither of them are performing very well though as Jaedong (6-3) lands just outside the top ten at 11th while forGG(4-1) is in 16th.Between the two of them they have three ace wins.

KTF and KHAN have two players in the top ten. Luxury and Flash are a terrifying combo and they are putting up results to back that statement. Stork is in the second half of the top ten, but if you take his recent individual league practice into account he will probably be much higher in a few weeks. By.great is also in the top ten at number nine. He has stepped up to give KHAN something they haven't had in a while: a reliable Zerg player. Hopefully he can keep it up.

Free is the only player in the top 25 for the Stars. He carrying them on his own right now. Likewise, Oversky can take credit for half of ACEs overall wins. He is 4-2 and the only player in the Top 25 for ACE. When you give two more of those eight wins to Boxer you can really see how terrible ACE is. eSTRO also only has one player in the top 25, Sangho, who is 4-2 right now.

Ace Match Statistics

Best, Free and Jaedong are all 2-0 in ace matches so far. For free and Best this is a omen that their teams need to pick up the pace. Especially SKT as they should not allow the entire weight of the match rest on Best every time. They need to start picking up 3-1 or 3-0 wins or things are really going to get nasty. Jaedong is merely the best pick for and ace match for Lecaf. Their team is strong right now, allowing only four ace matches this season and winning every one.

Individual Ace Match Standings

[image loading]


Flash is obviously one of the strongest ace players in the league right now. KTF has thrown him out there three out of four times they have gone to an ace match. Calm and Leta are 2-1, like Flash, they are both key players for their respective teams. Along with fake Yellow, Leta was responsible for OGNs fast start. Pusan is in the middle of them all. The Special Fireman has really earned his nickname as he continues to be the player than can come through in a clutch (2-1 again Lecaf? Send out Pusan and its 3-1).

eSTRO has the most ace matches out of any team. Every match except one was taken to an ace, likewise they have more players in the ace rankings than any other team. They really lack a strong Pusan or Flash to come out at the end with confidence and win. With four players in the top 35 and only one win among them it is easy to see why their record is so bad. Without a dominant player on the eSTRO roster they are going to fail miserably this season (gogo Nony?).

Map Statistics Weeks 1-5

The maps have finally had a decent amount of games played on them. Now we can really delve into the results and see what is happening. Maps make up a huge aspect of the Proleague, or any league for that matter. Picking the wrong matchup on any one map can cost you the entire match.

Map Statistics

[image loading]


Some maps are highly favored to a particular matchup this season, namely Raid Assualt II (17 ZvZ) and Harmony (18 TvT). RA II is a terrible map for any race to play against Zerg and choosing a Protoss on that map is practically suicide. Terran isn’t much better, even though TvZ snipers have gone 4-1. ZvZ seems to be the matchup for this map. Likewise, Harmony's favorable 4-1 PvT and 3-2 ZvT records do not reflect the T imbalance. The map is clearly suited for TvT and has been treated by the teams this way.

Other than RA II and Harmony, the map balance has been fair this season. Chupung-Ryeong has given in to a slight P>T (9-5) imbalance but I don’t think it warrants a change in maps during the upcoming break. Likewise Destination has given into a slightly larger P>Z (7-3) advantage, this map may actually be subject to some balancing soon.Medusa is leaning towards being a Zerg map, but the stats could really go either way.

Other than that the maps this season appear to be fairly well balanced. Most of them maintain a fairly even percentage, but I think there are a few which may show their true colors after a few more weeks of play. The break where KeSPA is allowed to change the maps is coming up and we will have to see what they think then.

Until We Meet Again

That’s it for this weeks stats report folks. Week five was filled with upsets and exciting games. You can look forward to more of that in next weeks report as some of the most competitive teams vie for a top spot before the mid season hits. Thank you for reading this stats report, I truly hope you found it informative and pleasant to read. Cheers!
Last edit: 2008-11-09 10:02:23
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Old Post

  toshi   Poland. November 09 2008 10:05. Posts 456Profile 
nice one ;]
pro-
Old Post

  funkie   Venezuela. November 09 2008 10:07. Posts 7035Profile Blog 
[image loading]

Note to self: Show this pic to nevergg. .
CJ Entusman #6!
Old Post

  funkie   Venezuela. November 09 2008 10:08. Posts 7035Profile Blog 
Thanks for the big report also, really nice to see how things are going, when you're way too busy to see PL matches live ;p. :D

thanks!
CJ Entusman #6!
Old Post

  Centric   United States. November 09 2008 10:28. Posts 1907Profile 
Nice job SA. T1 needs to step it up.
Domination.
Old Post

  Vasoline73   United States. November 09 2008 10:32. Posts 2884Profile Blog 
Thanks for the article. Love the PL updates
KTF fan first, Flash fan second. KTF hwaiting!
Old Post

  disciple   Bulgaria. November 09 2008 10:45. Posts 4549Profile Blog 
I've wanted to read sucha long and exiting trademark TL article for some days. Thanks for the awesome PL update
Jyvblamo: "It's easier to do laundry after watching Boxer play, since normally I have to change my pants after anyways." // Member of the "Fuck Yeah, Canata!" committee// Member of the "Stork for 2nd OSL title!" initiative
Old Post

  CDRdude   United States. November 09 2008 11:26. Posts 4347Profile Blog 
I love the PL stats report :-)
Bisu is the true bonwja
Old Post

  cgrinker   United States. November 09 2008 11:41. Posts 2841Profile Blog 
Yeah SKT dropped a game to Estro? That is pretty depressing. Unless you count the fact that Nony plays for them, that makes it pretty cool.
Ma Jae Yoon then said "He who has ears to hear, let him hear. The secret to being the Kingdom of Zerg has been given to you" |Liquipedia: Need Help? Send me a pm and I'll do what I can
Old Post

  sixghost   United States. November 09 2008 11:57. Posts 1347Profile Blog 
There's a tiny mistake in the map balance part, the table lists TvP on Harmony as 4-1 for T, but you mention P winning 4-1 so far in the article.

It's really nice to see Zerg at .500 this year, i can't remember the last time Z wasn't below that in PL.
Last edit: 2008-11-09 11:58:15
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
Old Post

  baubo   China. November 09 2008 11:59. Posts 1843Profile 
You need to have a "bottom feeder" individual rankings. You'll see some T1 domination there, and the reason why they've been sucking this season.

I'm very impressed with Khan right now, mainly because they've been able to squeak out wins even with a lot of individual commitments to starleagues.
Meh
Old Post

  NeverGG  *   Korea (South). November 09 2008 12:07. Posts 3798Profile Blog 

On November 09 2008 10:07 funkie wrote:
[image loading]

Note to self: Show this pic to nevergg. .


Uh....huh? I already did a shoot with MJY. I don't know what you're talking about.

Awesome coverage as usual btw.
Last edit: 2008-11-09 12:09:03
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Old Post

  parkin   November 09 2008 12:21. Posts 688Profile Blog 
Flash has played alot of weaker opponents and plenty of TvTs recently wich is his best mu.

I do not think he would be the favourite against the best Tosses atm (stork, best, free, bisu) or Jaedong in a bo5 with the current map pool. He'd probably be the favourite against any Terran though.
mostly harmless
Old Post

  NonConGuy   United States. November 09 2008 13:02. Posts 196Profile 
Just wondering who are those 3 people in the middle of the Samsung team (the 2 front most and the middle guy in the back row)? And wow thats an old picture of Lecaf with Anytime. Good times

Nice writeup
 
Old Post

  GHOSTCLAW   United States. November 09 2008 13:12. Posts 10240Profile Blog 
awesome writeup. T1...><;;
Liquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
Old Post

  Realpenguin   United States. November 09 2008 14:13. Posts 7687Profile 

On November 08 2008 07:51 SpiralArchitect wrote:
Free is the only player in the top 25 for the Stars. He carrying them on his own right now.


(Z)ZerO is the in the top 25 too btw

Nice write-up (besides that little mistake, of course ).
Last edit: 2008-11-09 14:14:05
⑨MVP NEXT BONJWA⑨ // <Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
Old Post

  JWD   United States. November 09 2008 14:52. Posts 6525Profile Blog 
Calm is actually 7-4 - TLPD is not updated with the STX - FOX game, in which he lost twice.

Great article, though! I enjoy TL's PL coverage.
Last edit: 2008-11-09 14:53:32
twitter.com/teamliquidnet ✌ Do Jaewook.
Old Post

  Malongo   Chile. November 09 2008 15:46. Posts 2484Profile Blog 
i love proleague, thanks for your summary. Theres a mistake: harmony is 4-1 tvp. On a side note skt really needs a zerg that can play zvz on RA at least. That has costed them at least 2 matches.
Last edit: 2008-11-09 15:50:07
Im improving my English. Any comments about my redaction and word use will be appreciated. Secret TL Mafia forum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Old Post

  eazo   United States. November 09 2008 16:16. Posts 244Profile 
Awesome coverage. Really well written and sums everything up very well... as usual!
 
Old Post

  R3condite   Korea (South). November 09 2008 16:16. Posts 1536Profile 
long read... but def a good one

w00t ace finally made a win~
ggyo...
Old Post

  Geo.Rion   Romania. November 09 2008 21:31. Posts 2081Profile Blog 
494/500/506 it wasnt so balanced for a loong time
"Honestly speaking, other than Jaedong, I think everyone's mutalisk micro is the same" hyvaa
Old Post

  Soju[src]   Armenia. November 10 2008 00:31. Posts 17Profile 
let's go KTF
 
Old Post

  Lenwe   Netherlands. November 10 2008 00:36. Posts 620Profile 
PL stat reports are so nice to catch up on all the results of the week.

SKT1 for playoffs!
What's up?
Old Post

  SpiralArchitect   United States. November 10 2008 07:39. Posts 2116Profile Blog 

On November 09 2008 13:02 NonConGuy wrote:
Just wondering who are those 3 people in the middle of the Samsung team (the 2 front most and the middle guy in the back row)? And wow thats an old picture of Lecaf with Anytime. Good times

Nice writeup

I prefer to think that he never left...

About Zero. I dont think he was in the top 25 when I wrote the report, probably not added to the TLPD yet or something.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Old Post

  NiGoL   Sweden. November 10 2008 17:28. Posts 726Profile 
still Oz gogo!!
 
Old Post

  KOFgokuon   United States. November 11 2008 05:22. Posts 8011Profile Blog 
come on skt any day now...
 
Old Post

  LordWeird   United States. November 11 2008 05:28. Posts 2077Profile Blog 
Sp1ralArch1tect gives meaning to Proleague
The real LW (Hihihi Salv!)
Old Post

  tozi   United States. November 11 2008 07:45. Posts 138Profile 
next week's matchups come out when?
nothing
Old Post

  RaiSad   United States. November 11 2008 13:54. Posts 300Profile Blog 
why all CJ members play so bad at this time? SKT1 looks even worse.
 
Old Post

  Sanzenin   Korea (South). November 11 2008 23:23. Posts 5Profile Blog 
Boxer Go!
Old Post

 
Calendar
Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su
      1
2345678
9101112131415
16171819202122
23242526272829
30      

Live user streams:
KawaiiRice
PredY
[ Show 3 non-featured ]

Upcoming events:  [ More ]
@13:00  [PL] STX vs KHAN
@13:00  [PL] hite vs MBC
Nov 23  [KDL] Week 1 Day 1
Team Liquid Progaming Database

League Standings:
» Shinhan 09-10 Proleague
» EVER 2009 OSL
PokerStrategy.com TSL Forum
TSL Player Eligibility a…
TSL Ladder Standings
Become a fan of TSL!
TSL Ladder predictions
TSL Cheerfuls
Final Edits: Progaming Editorials
On The Shoulders of Giant…
Here To Stay
A Finale in Five
Masters of the Universe
Map of the Swarm
Power Rank: Progamer Rankings
1. Flash 6. Fantasy
2. Jaedong 7. Effort
3. Inter.Calm 8. Shine[Kal]
4. Stork[gm] 9. HyuK
5. Bisu 10. Kal
   Comments (304)
Poll
TSL Ladder #1?

Comments (133)      Older Polls


International Cyber Cup

Liquid Poker
Sitemap Contact Poker Forum

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2002-2009 Teamliquid.net. All Rights Reserved