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| Not_Computer Canada. November 10 2008 10:55. Posts 2075 | Profile Blog # |
Just cause Jaedong is under performing doesn't mean you can mess with him.
That's what you get. |
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Kennigit Canada. November 10 2008 10:58. Posts 19163 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Paddington Australia. November 10 2008 11:00. Posts 229 | Profile # |
Hmm... I wonder what the Koreans think? Can anyone decipher that page? |
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| Ideas United States. November 10 2008 11:02. Posts 7428 | Profile Blog # |
On November 10 2008 10:13 TheYango wrote: Show nested quote +On November 10 2008 09:53 Ideas wrote: It's a hard season to be a non-protoss SC fan :\
Why so closed-minded? Surely one of those Protosses has a playstyle that you like? Race-biased fans are so boring. 
I like Kal and Jangbi, but I HATE PvP
Also hate seeing my fav players lose :\ |
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fanatacist November 10 2008 11:03. Posts 10000 | Profile Blog # |
On November 10 2008 09:51 Darkblade2519 wrote: REVOLUTION! REVOLUTION! BISU!!! BACK ON THE TOP
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| baubo China. November 10 2008 11:04. Posts 3262 | Profile # |
So does GOM not count towards official wins and losses? I noticed that because you mentioned Jangbi 11-1 record. I thought GOM games are kespa ranked now, in which case there should be a 2-1 record added.
Anyway, Jangbi and Jaedong's placement stood out the most for me. While I am a Khan fan, I feel that Jangbi's been beating up on some weak competition. Notice zero opponents in the top 10. Memory and Yarnc were both pushovers, while Much has been slumping recently. So I'm inclined to put Flash above him simply because of Flash's pedigree.
As for Jaedong, I guess you do kind of have to throw JD/zerg fans a bone there. If Stork went through JD's month, he'd probably be ridiculed and taken out of the top 10 all together. But JD gets the benefit of the doubt of course. |
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OneOther United States. November 10 2008 11:07. Posts 10693 | Profile Blog # |
Hahaha  One Korean requested the OP to post GosuGamer's Power Ranking too. What a disgrace! |
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| Fontong United States. November 10 2008 11:12. Posts 6453 | Profile Blog # |
Just by looking at the PR...
It must be fall. |
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DeadVessel United States. November 10 2008 11:24. Posts 6269 | Profile Blog # |
| Great job OneOther but you forgot Pusan and Sea on CBNC! All three are MBC's aces and they have impressive PL records like Saint! |
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| Avidkeystamper United States. November 10 2008 11:33. Posts 8551 | Profile Blog # |
I'm happy about Jaedong's placement, no arguments from me. You're right though, 5-8 could be easily switched. Edit: Dang, I couldn't sneak in a post this time.Last edit: 2008-11-10 11:33:19 |
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| Sprite United States. November 10 2008 11:43. Posts 1014 | Profile Blog # |
| I hope Firebathero makes a return next month, the losses to Bisu just totally threw him off the rank. |
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| Seraphim United States. November 10 2008 12:04. Posts 4461 | Profile Blog # |
VIVA LA REVOLUTION
Good writeup Ray!
Agree with everything except of how low on the list Fantasy is. |
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| ThePhan2m Norway. November 10 2008 12:23. Posts 2457 | Profile Blog # |
you place free THAT high? Lucky win against jaedong. comon, he hanst proven himself at all. and Fantasy 9th? you gotta be joking. None of these others above him like Kal or Jangbi has proven to be any better than fantasy this month |
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| SiegeTanksandBlueGoo China. November 10 2008 12:26. Posts 685 | Profile Blog # |
REVOLUTION NOW. BISU NOW. CHANGE NOW.
YES WE CAN. YES WE CAN.
Kim Taek Yong 2012 President of USA |
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OneOther United States. November 10 2008 12:32. Posts 10693 | Profile Blog # |
On November 10 2008 12:23 ThePhan2m wrote: you place free THAT high? Lucky win against jaedong. comon, he hanst proven himself at all. and Fantasy 9th? you gotta be joking. None of these others above him like Kal or Jangbi has proven to be any better than fantasy this month
No offense, how many games have you watched this month? I don't buy your lucky win argument. A win is a win, and it was a great win at that. Then he destroyed NaDa 3-0 in the quarterfinals. He's tearing apart Proleague. I do not see how he hasn't "proven himself at all." Fantasy..what has he done besides lose to Stork in OSL finals, drop several games in Proleague, and get destroyed by Flash in GOM? Kal, on the other hand, beat Stork to advance to to the MSL semifinals. Don't even try to argue about Jangbi - go look at http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/63_JangBi/games before you say anything. He is winning every single game. He has not lost a single game thus far in MSL. Fantasy is where he deserves to be. |
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| thunk United States. November 10 2008 12:49. Posts 6233 | Profile Blog # |
Free's been playing like a God, OneOther's got him right about where he's supposed to be.
Calm should be higher than forGG. He's been playing more games, starting out 5-0 or something, a real asset to STX.
Best should be higher than Jangbi and Flash and Kal higher than Jangbi. Kal beat Stork and ForGG which is much more impressive than Jangbi's 3-0 of Fake Yellow and whatever noob he took out in the Ro32. All of them are going to be Proleague beasts once their individual seasons end. Fantasy is becoming like that now that he has the time.
After TLPD'ing stuff, Jangbi is +3, Kal is +0, Flash is +6, Best is like, +4, Fantasy +1. If you count it that way, I guess Kal deserves should be be where he should be but Best should be higher than at least Jangbi, if not Flash as well (especially if you count the OSL stuff). |
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| ThePhan2m Norway. November 10 2008 13:02. Posts 2457 | Profile Blog # |
On November 10 2008 12:32 OneOther wrote: Show nested quote +On November 10 2008 12:23 ThePhan2m wrote: you place free THAT high? Lucky win against jaedong. comon, he hanst proven himself at all. and Fantasy 9th? you gotta be joking. None of these others above him like Kal or Jangbi has proven to be any better than fantasy this month
No offense, how many games have you watched this month? I don't buy your lucky win argument. A win is a win, and it was a great win at that. Then he destroyed NaDa 3-0 in the quarterfinals. He's tearing apart Proleague. I do not see how he hasn't "proven himself at all." Fantasy..what has he done besides lose to Stork in OSL finals, drop several games in Proleague, and get destroyed by Flash in GOM? Kal, on the other hand, beat Stork to advance to to the MSL semifinals. Don't even try to argue about Jangbi - go look at http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/63_JangBi/games before you say anything. He is winning every single game. He has not lost a single game thus far in MSL. Fantasy is where he deserves to be.
yes I have watched alot. If you look at who Jangbi played, he didnt really played anyone top notch from former PRs. Jangbi is a strong players yes, but stronger than fantasy, and flash? Compared to fantasy, who lost most of his games vs top10 players, and its not like fantasy got raped vs stork. Those games where pretty close. Guess we can only wait and see in MSL if jangbi got what it takes. Frees nada stomp anyone could have done among top10. Tho does 1 game ahead of Jaedong slumping play deserve him third? Imo no. I sense another PR oozing with fanboyism.Last edit: 2008-11-10 13:04:12 |
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| thunk United States. November 10 2008 13:10. Posts 6233 | Profile Blog # |
On November 10 2008 13:02 ThePhan2m wrote: Show nested quote +On November 10 2008 12:32 OneOther wrote: On November 10 2008 12:23 ThePhan2m wrote: you place free THAT high? Lucky win against jaedong. comon, he hanst proven himself at all. and Fantasy 9th? you gotta be joking. None of these others above him like Kal or Jangbi has proven to be any better than fantasy this month
No offense, how many games have you watched this month? I don't buy your lucky win argument. A win is a win, and it was a great win at that. Then he destroyed NaDa 3-0 in the quarterfinals. He's tearing apart Proleague. I do not see how he hasn't "proven himself at all." Fantasy..what has he done besides lose to Stork in OSL finals, drop several games in Proleague, and get destroyed by Flash in GOM? Kal, on the other hand, beat Stork to advance to to the MSL semifinals. Don't even try to argue about Jangbi - go look at http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/63_JangBi/games before you say anything. He is winning every single game. He has not lost a single game thus far in MSL. Fantasy is where he deserves to be.
yes I have watched alot. If you look at who Jangbi played, he didnt really played anyone top notch from former PRs. Jangbi is a strong players yes, but stronger than fantasy, and flash? Compared to fantasy, who lost most of his games vs top10 players, and its not like fantasy got raped vs stork. Those games where pretty close. Guess we can only wait and see in MSL if jangbi got what it takes. Frees nada stomp anyone could have done among top10. Tho does 1 game ahead of Jaedong slumping play deserve him third? Imo no. I sense another PR oozing with fanboyism.
The Jangbi-Kal semifinal is hard to be useful for PR like the Best v. Stork semifinal (determined the King of PvP) because PvP is one of Kal's better matchups and it's one of Jangbi's weakest.
But asking whether or not Kal is better than Jangbi is a very legit question and the answers are not going to be in concert. |
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| b3h47pte United States. November 10 2008 13:14. Posts 1305 | Profile Blog # |
| Savior!! C'mon....just a bit more to get onto the power rank. |
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OneOther United States. November 10 2008 13:15. Posts 10693 | Profile Blog # |
On November 10 2008 13:02 ThePhan2m wrote: Show nested quote +On November 10 2008 12:32 OneOther wrote: On November 10 2008 12:23 ThePhan2m wrote: you place free THAT high? Lucky win against jaedong. comon, he hanst proven himself at all. and Fantasy 9th? you gotta be joking. None of these others above him like Kal or Jangbi has proven to be any better than fantasy this month
No offense, how many games have you watched this month? I don't buy your lucky win argument. A win is a win, and it was a great win at that. Then he destroyed NaDa 3-0 in the quarterfinals. He's tearing apart Proleague. I do not see how he hasn't "proven himself at all." Fantasy..what has he done besides lose to Stork in OSL finals, drop several games in Proleague, and get destroyed by Flash in GOM? Kal, on the other hand, beat Stork to advance to to the MSL semifinals. Don't even try to argue about Jangbi - go look at http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/63_JangBi/games before you say anything. He is winning every single game. He has not lost a single game thus far in MSL. Fantasy is where he deserves to be.
yes I have watched alot. If you look at who Jangbi played, he didnt really played anyone top notch from former PRs. Jangbi is a strong players yes, but stronger than fantasy, and flash? Compared to fantasy, who lost most of his games vs top10 players, and its not like fantasy got raped vs stork. Those games where pretty close. Guess we can only wait and see in MSL if jangbi got what it takes. Frees nada stomp anyone could have done among top10. Tho does 1 game ahead of Jaedong slumping play deserve him third? Imo no. I sense another PR oozing with fanboyism.
Jangbi is stronger than Fantasy, yes. While Jangbi verses Flash is arguable, Jangbi has shown more than Flash has this month. Jangbi is in the MSL semifinals, where is Flash? Now, answer my question please. Tell me what Fantasy has done besides the three things I listed above. Sure, Fantasy lost to players in the top 10, but they are still losses. Jangbi didn't lose. I can't believe you are actually claiming that Fantasy should be above Jangbi. Also, stop discrediting what Free has been doing. He beat the strongest ZvPer in Jaedong, then destroyed Nada 3-0. He's excelling in Proleague at the same time. I doubt it's something "anyone in the top 10" could have done.
Please, refrain from ludicrous fanboy accusations. If anything, I sense more of it in your post than all the other posts in this thread.Last edit: 2008-11-10 13:16:23 |
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