 baal October 18 2003 10:57. Posts 10370 | Profile |
Well we all know that Ogogo is a better overall player than fisheye and fisheye had a chance in winning fast and doing unusuall and not plaint games.
Korhal is a perfect map for PvZ cuz it can be wined very fast by any of them... then i dont get...
WHY IN THE FUCK HE CHOSE TERRAN IN KORHAL!!!!! he tried to cheese a lil with vultures but comeon!!!! better make proxy gates by the ramp or something but i really thought he could win 2-0 in such maps but he just screwed it up.
it was obvious he was going to loose in a map like Dhalia... OMG what was he thinking!?!? i just dont get it, if you are 1-0 you can risk a lil trying to rush on korhal or ofensive cannons something! but jeez not terran.
I wanted as most of you that fisheye wins but IMO it was the mistake of the year doing that, what do you think?
PS: did you see Fisheye's face when he lost? omg it was that face kids do like a mopey forced face when they are about to cry nonstop kakakak i really laughed hard about it ^-^, |
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 relapse October 18 2003 11:02. Posts 629 | Profile |
| haha id cry too if i lost 20000. |
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| baal October 18 2003 11:02. Posts 10370 | Profile |
| yep me too, but not only the crying but the face trying not to cry it was just hillarous ^-^ |
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 SoL.Origin Argentina. October 18 2003 11:03. Posts 2400 | Profile |
He obviously would get raped hard pvz because ogogo is godly at zvp and fisheye isnt too good at it, as could be seen in the 3rd game. Playing terran on such a map was the safest choice, but he went metal vs muta and didn't play well overall, especially with the vulture rush.
PS: you suck |
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 hasuwar October 18 2003 11:10. Posts 7296 | Profile |
| The mistake of going speed vultures cost him 10,000 dollars. If he would have did standard TvZ, he would have raped him silly.. he hadlike 1 sunk in his main far off, nothing guarding at all. I think Fisheye missed the expo on the left down below, so he tried to do something stupid and it cost him the game. |
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 dork Canada. October 18 2003 11:17. Posts 2207 | Profile |
yeah, the standard/safe marine medic build would've worked a lot nicer, but why didn't he stick to pvz
giyoms fast +1 pvz is nice imo |
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| Excalibur_Z United States. October 18 2003 11:19. Posts 6152 | Profile |
| Korhal is as anti-Terran as it gets =( It's so anti-Terran that even TvT takes forever! =P |
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| baal October 18 2003 11:20. Posts 10370 | Profile |
im not saying to play a straight ZvP game, but Korhal is a map with A LOT of possibilities... A LOT!!!
I think he had way more chances and posibilities with protoss, in that damn map you can appear from everywhere surprising him, but please... vulture rush with no proper exploration it was just trashing 10,000 |
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| STIMEY d okgm fish Canada. October 18 2003 23:29. Posts 6140 | Profile |
| baal, i know i suck, but i have watched a few yellow wgtour replays, and i think ur wrong. good korean zerg totally rap3z protoss, they barely get expos on temple as it is. is korhal any more managable than bifrost? i dunno i just imagine lings running around killing all probes and toss losing any attempt to photon or proxy pretty easily. maybe ogogo isn't good enough for that, but i would expect him to be. |
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 AttackZerg United States. October 18 2003 23:39. Posts 5912 | Profile Blog |
| he(Ogogo) is good enuogh todo that if he was in that same position, but for one thing, fisheye isn't an average wgtour protoss, and there point , I think , is that he could have tried to be risky and original with toss easier then with terran, just considering half the reason he made it so far in wcg was due to his protoss being clever and solid. |
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 Liquid`Drone Norway. October 18 2003 23:51. Posts 17247 | Profile |
proxy gate is pretty bad on korhal I think, all zergs scout pretty fast and it's only one possible location and then they'd just pool in time. maybe a proxy 7 gate could work but a proxy 8/9 or anything later would lose I think ^_^
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LOLLLL I LAUGH'D SO HARD AT UR 60 IQ COMMENT PLEASE KILL URSELF STONE AGE NOOB. |
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| hasuwar October 19 2003 00:08. Posts 7296 | Profile |
korhal is hardly anti terran. TvP is extremely easy, you can't get flanked, most expos are on lower ground.. two ways into base, increasing vulture harass
TvZ, same thing..two ways to run in, can't get flanked, can't really mass expand |
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| baal October 19 2003 00:19. Posts 10370 | Profile |
| Yes its not anti terran at all, but vultures were a very bad decition considering he didnt explored or anything, i think he would had a better shot playing straight with terran and the best chance IMO was nasty tricks with protoss, proxy gates but not in the middle path but by the ramps and that stuff. |
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 Asta Germany. October 19 2003 00:32. Posts 3285 | Profile |
| it would have prolly worked out if ogogo hadnt seen him going gas before. was a waste of time afterwards since one sunken per base is enough to totally ruin vultures 8[ |
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 Klogon US of A. October 19 2003 00:36. Posts 12460 | Profile Blog |
| he had a better chance, but ogogo played pretty solid. |
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 FroZZoR China. October 19 2003 00:38. Posts 925 | Profile |
On October 19 2003 00:08 hasuwar wrote:
korhal is hardly anti terran. TvP is extremely easy, you can't get flanked, most expos are on lower ground.. two ways into base, increasing vulture harass
TvZ, same thing..two ways to run in, can't get flanked, can't really mass expand
100% wrong on tvp. You'll be dead before you know it. Sure, if a toss does some idiotic build like goon/obs you'll win, but good toss will either grab your gas fast or cannon rush you |
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 raidern_br Brazil. October 19 2003 00:40. Posts 602 | Profile |
of course korhal is anti terran 
take a look at the matches and tell me how many games terran won in that map if it was a PvT ? im not too sure about ZvT, but PvT = anti terran |
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| shuttlespeed October 19 2003 01:48. Posts 507 | Profile |
| only way to win pvz on korhal is if the z sux, like inthe grrrr vs fisheye game or with proxygates, wich is really no option if zerg scout with drone, so pvz is not really an option. |
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 l2uShMarine United States. October 19 2003 01:53. Posts 168 | Profile |
| w/e he does its up to him,he was there and you werent.now stf u and just watch vods without complaining |
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 Dealer  Sweden. October 19 2003 01:54. Posts 1361 | Profile |
On October 18 2003 11:10 hasuwar wrote:
The mistake of going speed vultures cost him 10,000 dollars. If he would have did standard TvZ, he would have raped him silly.. he hadlike 1 sunk in his main far off, nothing guarding at all. I think Fisheye missed the expo on the left down below, so he tried to do something stupid and it cost him the game.
Oh yah, like you would know if ogogo would only have 1 sunken if fisheye played a standard 2 rax =[ |
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