 CharlieMurphy United States. November 20 2008 08:51. Posts 22893 | Profile Blog # |
http://www2.razerzone.com/MouseGuide/html/advantages.php
http://www2.razerzone.com/MouseGuide/html/clawgrip.php
http://www2.razerzone.com/MouseGuide/html/palmgrip.php
http://www2.razerzone.com/MouseGuide/html/fingertipgrip.php
Poll: Which grip are you?
(Vote): Palm
(Vote): Claw
(Vote): Fingertip
(Vote): Other
(Vote): Combination/Switch it up
Advantages of the palm grip:
The palm grip is the default way many users use to hold a computer mouse, and is found to be more comfortable for a user not accustomed to manipulating the mouse by lifting it and making constant adjustments with the fingers and palm.
With the palm grip, the user will primarily move the mouse by exerting force with his forearm and wrist to “push” the mouse around the mousing surface. By using this method, the user is able to move the mouse at higher speeds, and achieve higher Inches Per Second (IPS) ratings by doing so. Some gamers fine-tune their movements by rotating and pivoting their wrists, but gross speed is still the primary advantage that palm grip users experience.
The palm grip is also considered one of the most comfortable grip styles for gaming where the gamer is able to continue playing for extended hours without experiencing fatigue.
Disadvantages of the palm grip:
As previously noted, palm grip users have a natural tendency to move the mouse with their forearm and wrist. However, in order to keep the point of contact with their palm and the back of the mouse intact, users will find it difficult to perform fine tuning with their fingers.
The number of articulation points to manipulate the mouse is also less than what the claw grip offers. This in turn means that palm grip users are unable to make as many precise movements as they can when using a claw grip
Advantages of the claw grip:
The claw grip is preferred by users who require quick, precise movements, while having the rear of the mouse stabilized by the sixth contact point in the pit of the hand when lifting the mouse off the mousing surface.
A claw grip user will manipulate the mouse primarily by “pulling” the mouse around the mousing surface as the user’s hand is positioned above the mouse, and fine-tuning can be made by making minor adjustments with the user’s fingertips by either slightly rotating the mouse like a dial or pushing the mouse in and out of the pit of the user’s hand.
A final point to note with regards to the claw grip is that the primary and secondary mouse buttons can be actuated faster than when actuated with the palm grip. The pressure exerted by the tips of the user’s fingers positioned in the claw grip can result in quicker button actuation than fingers positioned in a palm grip. This is because fingers positioned in the palm grip require the user to use more force to actuate the mouse button due to the increased surface area each finger has to press down on.
Disadvantages of the claw grip:
Because most users have a natural tendency to palm their mouse, using the claw grip does not feel as natural to certain users and a learning curve is required to adjust to the claw grip.
Additionally, since the user is moving the mouse with his fingertips, fatigue can set in faster if the user does not possess refined fine motor skills with their fingertips and wrist. Because of this, the user will experience fatigue sooner and fine motor control will deteriorate, quickly affecting the user’s ability to move his mouse accurately.
Advantages of the fingertip grip:
The fingertip grip is similar to the claw grip, in the fact that users prefer quick, precise movements, but differs because the user wants increased agility.
A fingertip grip user will also “pull” the mouse along a mousing surface, but since the rear of the mouse no longer makes contact with the pit of the user’s hand, the user can make further adjustments and tweak the mouse with his fingertips when compared to the claw grip.
Also like the claw grip, the primary and secondary mouse buttons can be actuated faster with the fingertip grip when compared to the palm grip.
Disadvantages of the fingertip grip:
With the fingertip grip, users will experience the most amount of hand fatigue as there are now only five points of contact with the mouse, and the user will be required to use more effort in controlling the stability and precise movements of the mouse.
The fingertip grip also requires the highest learning curve for most users, as the exaggerated arched fingers and increased amount of control over the mouse needs to be practiced.
I Think I am a fingertip/claw grip guy. It kinda depends on the mouse, these ones here at work are small basic so its always a fingertip grip because my hand is bigger.
But yea, I notice I get really fatigued hands after intense/long games. And I definitely like the added precision of finger grip.
I'm voting Fingertip.
Also upon further reading Here found that I liked the Krait and Salmosa mice best based on stats and look and just read that these would be best for fingertip grip users.
PS- Why are there no starcraft players quotes about their grip types on any of these? Stupid!Last edit: 2008-11-20 09:08:51 |
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| Fontong United States. November 20 2008 08:55. Posts 6453 | Profile Blog # |
Since I'm an instrumentalist I'm pretty used to making fine movements with my fingers, thus the fingertip is just the natural position for me.
I find it does give me good control in all sorts of situations, especially since I use fast and precise mouse movement to make up for my bad hotkeying habits.
Edit: Oh wow, apparently I have one of the least recommending mice for fingertip style, being that it's a huge old microsoft mouse.Last edit: 2008-11-20 09:00:31 |
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| IzzyCraft United States. November 20 2008 08:55. Posts 4487 | Profile Blog # |
Finger tip it's why my mouse is a G9 Short Wide mouse made for right hand i.e. the only way to grip it with a hand of my size is just moving it useing finger tips.
I used to be a palm when i played fps alot |
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| lokiM United States. November 20 2008 08:55. Posts 3364 | Profile Blog # |
| In SC, war3, or even dota I use fingertip. In everything else like CS I use my palm, voted fingertip though ;D |
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| -orb- United States. November 20 2008 08:59. Posts 5664 | Profile Blog # |
Combination between fingertip and claw for starcraft, combination between palm and claw for FPS.
I don't like the claw grip in their shots, it's way too arched, but I do like a bit of arch in my mouse hand. |
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| GeneralStan United States. November 20 2008 09:01. Posts 2889 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm a palm gripper. I had never realized the difference between grips like this. I mouse for 8 hours a day at work, so I find that a grip that doesn't fatigue my hands is very important. To this end, I find my Deathadder to be a very comfortable match to my style! |
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| mahnini United States. November 20 2008 09:02. Posts 6768 | Profile Blog # |
fingertip. it feels the most natural because it gives you more control, also, it takes less effort to move. actually i'm more in between finger and claw, i dont do some crazy tiger fist grip but i dont lay my fingers flat either.
ps that guy has small hands |
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| CharlieMurphy United States. November 20 2008 09:03. Posts 22893 | Profile Blog # |
On November 20 2008 08:59 -orb- wrote:Combination between fingertip and claw for starcraft, combination between palm and claw for FPS. I don't like the claw grip in their shots, it's way too arched, but I do like a bit of arch in my mouse hand.
Yea I use only my fingers to hold/control the mouse with a slight arch in the pointer/middle and my palm/ thumb slightly touches the left back of the mouse. |
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| KrisElmqvist Sweden. November 20 2008 09:05. Posts 1951 | Profile Blog # | |
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 JWD United States. November 20 2008 09:07. Posts 12566 | Profile Blog # |
I use the palm grip, as a result I like big fat mice that fit my hand. Though it's not a gaming mouse, I find the Logitech MX Revolution really comfortable for palm gripping with my hand.
Yeah, that sounded eerily similar to the cheesy progamer quotes Razer has on their site there.
Anyone wonder if there are any SC players who use the palm/claw grips? I feel like I've only seen fingertip in VODs. |
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| mahnini United States. November 20 2008 09:07. Posts 6768 | Profile Blog # |
On November 20 2008 09:03 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +On November 20 2008 08:59 -orb- wrote:Combination between fingertip and claw for starcraft, combination between palm and claw for FPS. I don't like the claw grip in their shots, it's way too arched, but I do like a bit of arch in my mouse hand.
Yea I use only my fingers to hold/control the mouse with a slight arch in the pointer/middle and my palm/ thumb slightly touches the left back of the mouse.
yeah, it's pretty much impossible to not have any arch in your fingers otherwise you couldn't move at all with your fingers. what's up with that razer?!?!? |
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 travis United States. November 20 2008 09:09. Posts 20425 | Profile Blog # |
all the pictures look the same to me..
anyways i use a combination |
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| Manit0u Poland. November 20 2008 09:10. Posts 9847 | Profile Blog # |
| I alternate between all types of grip listed here according to what I need now. |
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| IzzyCraft United States. November 20 2008 09:12. Posts 4487 | Profile Blog # |
| Yeah the photos they show looks extreme almost like a claw gripper pushes the buttons with his finger tips. imo diff from claw and fingertip is when your do normal movements do you move it with your hand or with your fingers. I have a wrist rest so i have a inclination to only move my wrist at max and i usually don't have to. Frankly i think the diff is that a claw grip user moves the mouse with his arm in general but usually off sets it by useing his fingers for finer position. While a fingertip would be more inclied to just rest his or her wrist or bottom plam on the desk and only make small movements. If that makes any sence Last edit: 2008-11-20 09:12:32 |
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| SweeTLemonS[TPR] November 20 2008 09:12. Posts 11495 | Profile Blog # |
| When browsing the internet, I use palm grip. When playing an FPS I use fingertip. If I'm doing some random speed test mouse game I use claw. |
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| meegrean Thailand. November 20 2008 09:13. Posts 6006 | Profile # |
| I never thought about my grip before.. |
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| GeneralStan United States. November 20 2008 09:16. Posts 2889 | Profile Blog # |
| I wonder which grip Starcraft progamers use |
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| CharlieMurphy United States. November 20 2008 09:23. Posts 22893 | Profile Blog # | |
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