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| Amber[LighT] United States. December 20 2008 07:37. Posts 5078 | Profile Blog # |
On December 20 2008 05:32 0cz3c wrote:
By the way I strongly think that Amber[Light] is in mafia. He's talking infrequently.
Day 1 = "sunset"; "the lights died"
Day 2 = "a ray of light arcing from his chest"
Day 3 = ""sun was down"; "flipped a light switch"
I would say that, by necessity, lights would be mentioned in any day post, but the day 2 reference is almost begging us to wonder why not. Sure the sun sets when night approaches and light go off when someone sets himself up for a murder, but what else can a ray of light coming out from a dead body's chest insinuate?
I'd like Amber[light] to defend himself. Also, please name seven (7) people whom you think are in mafia.
lol no and i especially won't be defending myself because you all of a sudden decided to actually play |
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| Amber[LighT] United States. December 20 2008 07:41. Posts 5078 | Profile Blog # |
On December 20 2008 06:22 0cz3c wrote:
I just ctrl+f "light," and copy and pasted it here.
The sun's really big. It can shine on more than one person!
Actually I know who that clue was pointed towards and it is not referring to me you idiot. |
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| 0cz3c United States. December 20 2008 07:44. Posts 562 | Profile # | |
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| Amber[LighT] United States. December 20 2008 07:45. Posts 5078 | Profile Blog # |
| ...And besides that clue would imply I'm a vigilante, not mafia. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if you were a mafioso because of how retarded you act, so BC probably knew you would make for a good laugh with your stupid posts. |
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| ketomai United States. December 20 2008 07:48. Posts 2418 | Profile # |
| If we really want to win this, we have to get organized and sort all of these random clues and decide which ones are most likely... |
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| 0cz3c United States. December 20 2008 07:50. Posts 562 | Profile # |
That's mafia talk. I've already made it known that I am not mafia. What more has to be said?
Furthermore, you say this after you post. This implies that you did not think about what you said before, or that you did not really read through my accusations. Nextly, you called me stupid. You were attempting to ridicule my analysis (which I admit it laughable), but now you've gone completely into the irrational. It's incredibly mafia-like. You came into this thread to convince everyone else that you're not mafia, only because I said you were. And you did it in a way that is typical of a mafia. I'll be voting to lynch you next round. I'm more than convinced by your behavior that you're part of the killers of the town.
Also, I hope you realize that BloodyCobbler did this randomly. And he couldn't have expected that I would be posting this way. That way of thinking is illogical and irrational. It's also incredibly stupid. And you are not stupid. No, you just didn't think. And you have to think about what you post, because you know who is who. Because you need to stay alive. Because you're mafia.
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| ketomai United States. December 20 2008 08:02. Posts 2418 | Profile # |
| Hey, find some evidence for some of your points when you post, 0cz3c. You have no evidence whatsoever, and only decided to speak up after you've been accused. Please either shut up and save yourself or start actually putting effort into defending yourself (why are you even in this position). The light clues are so weak because it is so obvious and general. |
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| Amber[LighT] United States. December 20 2008 08:08. Posts 5078 | Profile Blog # |
On December 20 2008 08:02 nevake wrote:
Hey, find some evidence for some of your points when you post, 0cz3c. You have no evidence whatsoever, and only decided to speak up after you've been accused. Please either shut up and save yourself or start actually putting effort into defending yourself (why are you even in this position). The light clues are so weak because it is so obvious and general.
And they correlate to at least two different people  |
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| Vivi57 United States. December 20 2008 08:12. Posts 6440 | Profile Blog # |
so right now:
strong:
more_minerals
0zc
moderate:
RebirthofLegend
Mynock
and I'm sure they have some behind the scenes |
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| 0cz3c United States. December 20 2008 08:26. Posts 562 | Profile # |
Nevake, you might have to watch out as well. I've already caught one of you. If I look hard enough at the helmet I wear on my head, I'm sure I can find some clues that pertain to you.
Behavioral analysis is legitimate. I posted that. I'm sorry if it's below you. You pointed this out before, but I only spoke when I WASN'T accused. Do you really have no memory? Or are you attempting to manipulate this situation so that mafia might win? Why would I want to save myself? As a green townie, I hope to get killed by mafia. It gives the blues another round. Of course, some of the blues have been off (to put it delicately) this game, and they decided it best to send their roles to someone they should not have trusted. You're calling me an idiot yet I'm not dead. I have neither been lynched during the day nor murdered at night.
I have no need to defend myself. No one in their right mind could possibly mistake me for a mafia or a silencer. By the way, nevake, I'd appreciate it if you decide to read posts. That's always nice. I do. Read the one above your post. If my eyes are not deceiving me, then I write, "attempting to ridicule my analysis (which I admit it laughable)." You see that right? RIGHT? RIGHT? I hope I'm not wrong. Hopefully I actually wrote that. I'm telling you that I acknowldege that my light clues are weak. That wasn't the point of my analysis. Firstly, I hoped that it would show everyone the quality of clue analysis thus far. And secondly I wanted to see Amber[Light]'s behavior after my post. His response was incriminating, or stupid. And your behavior now is incriminating, or, once again, stupid.
When my posts look stupid, there's a purpose to them. It's not because I'm stupid. Oftentimes it's to keep myself entertained. I sometimes want to see how people react to my posts, and make personal observations from that. Usually not. But I wish that this helmet could be surgically removed from my head. It's heavy, and my brainy is empty. Haha, a rhyme. |
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| ketomai United States. December 20 2008 09:09. Posts 2418 | Profile # |
| Oh really. So you can't possibly be mafia, despite acting like mafia, because everyone else isn't in their right mind. OK. |
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| Vivi57 United States. December 20 2008 09:19. Posts 6440 | Profile Blog # | |
| | Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever! |
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| MoRe_mInErAls Canada. December 20 2008 09:31. Posts 1210 | Profile Blog # |
| Why would they even PM that? That's stupid. There's no way anyone would PM something so stpud |
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| 0cz3c United States. December 20 2008 09:52. Posts 562 | Profile # |
Hmmm. Maybe the PMs I've sent out to everyone would be helpful to any adventurous clue searchers. I'll do some clue hunting very shortly. I would have said that Coca Cola Classic is mafia, but then I realized that he's not in the game. A liquid is thrown in the first day, and it leaves the dead BC faceless. It also kills him. I deduced from this that it might be venomo45, since he has the word venom in his name. The clue itself is rather ambiguous, leaving someone faceless implies that the liquid pierces through the person face. An acid would resolve that.
To: Vivi57
Subject: Re: Mafia
Date: 12/20/08 08:57
By the way, do you think I should stick with the blue coloring? It seems that the town trusted me more when I wrote in green.
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Very convincing
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Original Message:
I'm not in mafia.
To: Vivi57
Subject: Re: Mafia
Date: 12/20/08 09:02
I'm sorry for sending a third e-mail, but a thought just occurred to me. Find something in the clues that link back to me. Please.
The fact that you're posting that I'm a mafia only aids the town in incriminating you later on. There's absolutely nothing except either stupid townies or plotting mafia saying that I am a mafia. Look at nevake. He's saying that I have produced no evidence. He just repudiated my analysis on the guy's behavior. Then he decides to analyze mine. He offered no analysis from the clues about me being mafia. The guy's a hypocrite. He's also a stupid townie or a mafia. It's really just an either or in their situation.
OBVIOUSLY mafia WILL NOT kill me because of the way I'm acting now. I take that for granted. It would be stupid of them to kill me. Of course, you could very well be mafia. Doesn't matter that I'm telling you this, though.
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Very convincing
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I'm not in mafia.
To: Vivi57
Subject: Re: Mafia
Date: 12/20/08 09:03
I think that's the color that I'll choose if the game is still up by Christmas Eve. Red represents love, and I love the town. It also represents blood, and in Hebrew culture, blood symbolize life. Therefore, it would be appropriate in that I would be expressing my love for life.
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You should go for a more appropriate color, say red.
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By the way, do you think I should stick with the blue coloring? It seems that the town trusted me more when I wrote in green.
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Very convincing
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I'm not in mafia.
To: Amber[LighT]
Subject: Re: Mafia
Date: 12/20/08 08:27
Did you enjoy those posts more? Did they suit the mafia plan to a greater degree? I'll think about it.
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recheck your clues a mafia cant kill another mafia. You should go back to posting about how you're green
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It wasn't a guess. I was simply following the clues !
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lol good guess faggot
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I got one ! Have fun in Hades, where there is no light to look upon!
To: AttackZerg
Subject: Re: Mafia
Date: 12/20/08 05:35
You never let me use some of the low-brow material I had prepared for you.
At least I'm smart enough to still be alive!!!
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Dude I'm so fucking obviously mafia. I am only denying it after I posted that I was .
I was just having fun before I went.
I'm mafia bro.
Later,
AttackZerg
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Ouch.
If I'm a townie and you're a self-proclaimed townie, then why not make a friend of me?
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Go away, your just a bored townie who isn't smart enough to dig up clues and make friends.
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Well, I will soon command a Roman legion.
Caesar's top lieutenant was Labienus.
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Sorry the mafia is safe from you
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I just wanted to stress the fact that this conversation is personal. It's just between the two of us. Only us and no one else.
I want to INFILTRATE your NETWORK, if you catch my drift.
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pm = personal msg,
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT? Is that clear enough?
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'msg' you what?
I PM'd you.
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Why msg me?
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Yes. Yes, I am.
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Yes you are.
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I'm not a townie.
To: Scaramanga
Subject: Re: Mafia
Date: 12/19/08 13:11
"Did David slay Goliath?"
He obviously did. Your icon is a goliath. Let's say that I'm the David.
The other PM was meant to, in effect, prove how words are misinterpreted.
I took the "a" and "I" out of David and Goliath. Pretty clever, right ???
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fuck off
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A DVD, I GOLTH
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what?
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David slayed Goliath?
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| 0cz3c United States. December 20 2008 10:00. Posts 562 | Profile # |
On December 20 2008 09:31 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Why would they even PM that? That's stupid. There's no way anyone would PM something so stpud
So are you saying that he photo-shopped that PM? Because he didn't.
Why would you even say that...unless... |
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 Mynock December 20 2008 11:29. Posts 4491 | Profile # |
0cz is like singlehandedly killing this thread.
Really gj, care to stop already? |
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| 0cz3c United States. December 20 2008 12:48. Posts 562 | Profile # |
No. I've decided to keep going.
From what I gathered in the Day 1 post, there is a clear link to the dark templar.
BC "jumped back as a hand reached for him from the darkness, then fired at where the hand had come from, only to hear the bullet slam into a wall."
If that's not evidence enough, the sentence right after states that "figures in black cloaks and hoods were all around." The DT is invisible because of a cloak. Then again, the same holds true for wraiths and ghosts. I don't know to whom I can attribute this clue. I'd like to ask for some help for fellow townies on this.
I have this written down, but I can't seem to find from what profile it came from: "Visualize success, but don't believe your eyes." There are inconspicuous references to eyes (glaring, etc.). This can also go back to the DT reference, although that would be more than pushing it.
In the first Day post, BC learns, "who was responsible for this crime." zeks profile suggests a similarity of phrasing, for it says, "With great power comes great responsibility." Granted this is weak, but I wonder where zeks has gone in the thread. I know he was the first to bring up again the stargate references. Capek pressed those references (i.e. he attempted to make clear their validity). Capek was mafia. Zeks, I think, was one who posted that he liked my posts. Whenever someone says that, I had to grow suspicious, especially since they added nothing useful to the town. Still, take this analysis with a grain of salt.
Meegrean's signature says, "my scourge got scourged." There is certainly a reference to essentially getting beaten up in the Day 2 post. Obviously the word scourge is the same word as the word "scourge." Mafia is the same word as mafia. In the Day 2 post, two mafia are fighting with each other.
"Camulous backed into a corner which Chronus about to deliver the final blow. Camulous’ eyes went from fear to contempt however, and surged forward past Chronus and slamming into Heros)pink, then quickly slicing his throat."
Camulous, in essence, is the scourge about to get scourged (rather, killed). This again is fairly weak.
I'm not sure if this is of any use to anyone, and, since I skipped the majority of clue analyses from before (since they just obsessed over the picture), I don't know if any of it has been mentioned before. No one has been doing sufficient clue analysis. Please help ! |
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| Infundibulum United States. December 20 2008 13:36. Posts 2320 | Profile Blog # |
the "Visualize success, but don't believe your eyes." quote is from softer, Caller had posted his thoughts that this connected rather well to the clues earlier on. personally, i support it. it connects well to the mysterious hand Day 1, and to the pitch black building in Day 3.
interesting thought about zeks. it is possible he was just musing about the stargate clues, and Capek knowing they were false took some time to flesh them out and distract analysis in that direction.
meegrean is dead and therefore cannot be mafia.
and i agree with others who have posted that kdog3683's sig, "fighting!" connects rather well to Camulous who has been found fighting on repeat occasions. another valid connection is Scaramanga who has "HWAITING," which is korean for "fighting." kdog has been inactive in the thread so far, i believe.
all of this has been mentioned before btw by myself and others, so yes there has been sufficient clue analysis. it just gets lost. |
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| JeeJee Canada. December 20 2008 13:47. Posts 5353 | Profile Blog # |
i'll chime in with my own awesome analysis, similar to oczec but a wee bit more concise:
lynch infundibulum
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| Ace United States. December 20 2008 13:49. Posts 13831 | Profile Blog # | |
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