[SPL] Round 5 Week 3 Revie…
TL Site Changes
[GSTL] Week 10 - Prime Tim…
[WCS KR] Innovation vs. Sy…
[WCS AM] Ro16 Group D Prev…
[WCS EU] Grubby, MMA, Ret …
Pizza: All Tiers Reached
Vici and RisingStars Advan…
Up&Down groups for 2013 WC…
HerO, Revival Interviews -…
[SPL] Round 5 Week 4 Start…
viOLet forfeits WCS AM due…
Get 50% off Papa John's pi…
TL Advertising Features
My Little Pony: Friendsh…
Iron Man 3
Men's Fashion Thread
[TV] Hannibal
Anime Discussion Thread
TL Site Changes
The Automated Ban List
Who Wants Free Pizza...GG?
Long Island, NY BarCraft!
Barcraft Gothenburg WCS s1…
The Stephano fanclub
INnoVation Fanclub
Tara Babcock The Supermode…
cR4shde casting replays an…
Bad Internet Signal Strength
Any fix for Twitch tv lag?
High FPS but choppy gameplay
Simple Questions Simple An…
Computer Build Resource Th…
Stephano 'Grilled' (2nd …
WCS Europe ro8 Player Pr…
DreamHack Summer 2013 Ca…
Starcraft overriding dou…
[SPL] Flash(KT) & Innova…
(NEW!) Clan War Thread
Win Team Branded T-shirts!…
[WCS EU] Finals Day 1 Prem…
ESET UK HOTS Showdown - Sj…
FREE 64 Player Knockout: S…
dA-Gaming Cup #7 with pric…
The HotS Terran Help Me Th…
Analysis of PvP Build: Sta…
Simple Questions Simple An…
ZvT 10minute hive fast ult…
The HotS Zerg Help Me Thread
Nexus Wars - Cannot Sync -…
OneGoal: A better SC2 [Pro…
StarCraft: Subjection
Work In Progress Melee Maps
Map Jam & Challenge #5
General Discussion
G-1 Champions League LAN…
Inhouse Dota
Dota 2 QQ thread
Who is Who
Bruno Community Q&A
[G-1] LAN Finals
Starladder Season 6
[The International] Easter…
[EU] GAMEFACE Launch Event…
Dota 2 Canada Cup - Featur…
Simple Questions, Simple A…
[G] In-Game Dota Guide for…
[G] Clockwerk, The Offlani…
[H] Night Stalker
[G]uide to Lifestealer
TeamLiquid Legacy Starle…
[D] New BW Server
My Review of the Starcra…
[SOSPA] Event Matches
2 Artificial Intelligenc…
DES Sonic Interview 5/18…
D Ranks Teamleague Season 4
C Ranks Teamleague Season 1
Torenhire Starleague II
[GC S3] Gambit's Cup Semif…
Defiler Tour #57 [75$]
Simple Questions, Simple A…
Increasing APM/EAPM
Practice Partner Thread
Challenger map on Starcraf…
2012 - 2013 Football Thr…
Steam Sales Thread
TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
Quake Live!
DUNE 2:The Golden Path -…
Doctor Who Mafia
[M][N] Les Mafia
Carnival Cruise Mafia
TL Health and Fitness Init…
The 2013 Weightlifting Pro…
The Injuries Thread
Leta - Movie
Michael - skyline
Anytime - Beast
By.Hero - Shuttle
Anytime - Pusan
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads


IRC Web Chat

TeamSpeak 3 (96 users)


Active: 8012 users

Korean News Flash 2008-12-13

Forum Index > News 1 2 3 4 All
TL News
Korean News Flash 2008-12-13
December 13th, 2008 20:29 | Translation
Text by LosingID8
Profile #
[image loading]


This issue of KNF is brought to you by LosingID8




Sorry for the delay with KNF! With the TeamLiquid vs YGOSU showmatch and finals season it has been really hectic! I hope you enjoy this issue




In This Issue!
  • Which Way Does the Mutalisk Glave Wurm Attack?
    Source: YGOSU
  • Hong Jin Ho in the Air Force
    Source: Fomos
  • WeMade Coach Won Jong Wook Retires
    Source: Fomos
  • Liquid`NonY in Korea!
    Source: Fomos




Which Way Does the Mutalisk Glave Wurm Attack?

Translated by LosingID8


This analysis was done by the wonderful people over at YGOSU. If you are interested in more strategy-related translations like this one, let me know!

[image loading]


[image loading]


[image loading]


You can tell if you look at the above images closely, but it is confirmed that the 3 bounces of the glave wurm attack move in an organized manner. This means that contrary to popular belief, the attack does not bounce randomly.

If you put a medic or different building above the pylon, when you attack it has the same effect. Even when you stack the mutalisks, their attack all go in the same direction.

Hypothesis: The glave wurm attack follows a definite pattern about which direction they will attack.

Then what pattern is this?

[image loading]


I tested this A LOT. Using a mutalisk, I would attack various things such a bunch of medics or buildings. I could tell there was some pattern, but it was difficult to see exactly what it was.

Then suddenly I realized what it was!

Rule 1: The glave wurm attack has a tendency to bounce left.

The attack goes to the left

[image loading]



It doesn’t matter if the mutalisk is attacking from the top or bottom, it will still go left. Assuming the units getting hit aren’t moving, the attack will bounce in this direction.

[image loading]



Attacking pylons gives this same effect; it bounces to the bottom left.

[image loading]



Then that means it always goes to the bottom-left right?

[image loading]

HUH?


What is this? It was going to the left but then suddenly to the right?
When there are no remaining targets to the left, it will turn to the right.

So I moved one medic to the left. Sure enough, the mutalisk attack bounced to the left.

[image loading]



In this case, this is the right-most the glave wurm will attack. The first medic being attacked is the left-most one. In this case the attack will move downwards.

[image loading]



Rule2: The glave wurm travels further when you attack from the right side.

To clarify, take a look at these images:

There are medics between the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd hits that are not damaged. It doesn’t matter if they are in the line of fire.

[image loading]



It appears that the furthest the glave wurm will travel is around on matrix. This means that if you attack from the right side, you will have the longest range of attack.
[image loading]



Rule 3: If there is nothing to the left, it will move to the right.

If you attack from the left side, then only the closest units will be damaged. This gives the shortest range of attack.

[image loading]



How to apply this in a game!

Based on my findings, it is advantageous for the zerg to attack units such as marines from the left side.

What happens when you attack from the right:

If you attack with 11 stacked mutalisks, this is what happens. Marine #9 and #5 will die, and #1 will be damaged but not killed. However Marines #7 and #8 will continue to attack the mutalisks.

[image loading]



What happens when you attack from the left:

Marines #1 and #2 will be killed, and #3 will be damaged. In this case, only Marine #3 will be in range of the mutalisks to attack. With proper control you can decrease the damage from marine fire.

[image loading]




Of course, this is alone will not give you automatic success with mutalisk harass, but with this knowledge it may make it more effective than before.

Source by YGOSU



Hong Jin Ho in the Air Force

Translated by LosingID8

[image loading]


Hong Jin Ho is currently receiving basic training in the Air Force. He sent a letter to the KTF MagicNs players, giving his regards to them.

KTF MagicNs coach Lee JiHoon revealed that on the 11th, a letter from Hong Jin Ho had arrived in the mail.

Hong Jin Ho revealed that “it feels like time is going slower, and training is tough” and also said that “they say that starting from the second week training is supposed to get harder, so I will need to prepare myself.”

He said to his juniors on KTF “As training continues it will be tough on my body so I hope I will remain healthy all throughout training,” and said “this hard training will continue in the future, but I think if I receive letters of sympathy it will give me strength!”

Judging from the content and length of the letter, he probably hurriedly wrote it during his brief breaks from training sessions.

Coach Lee Ji Hoon said “I was worried because he entered military service later than many of his peers, and the conditions are much different than when you are on a proteam. I hope he will stay healthy and finish training well.”

This translation is dedicated to the #1 YellOw fanboy, RastLomantic!

Source by Fomos



WeMade Coach Won JongWook Retires

Translated by LosingID8

[image loading]

WeMade Fox coach Won JongWook retired on the 11th of December.

He was one of the founding members of WeMade FOX, starting back in March of 2003 back when they were known as Toona SG. (Toona SG -> Pantech & Curitel -> Pantech EX -> WeMade FOX)

In particular, when due to the negative impact of the management in a certain company (unnamed in this article), Pantech EX almost dissolved in 2007. After WeMade FOX was established, he became head coach, and was in charge of scouting new talent and nurturing their rookies, along with being in charge of team expenses.

Won said “I couldn’t come to agreement with coach Kim Yang Joong about the direction this team was heading. I wanted to lead this team successfully with him, but I felt that I wasn’t the person for the job so I resigned myself.”

“I now want to try working somewhere other than e-sports. Even though I am not physically with WeMade now, I will always be cheering for them.”

A representative from WeMade FOX said that “we tried to negotiate with him several times but he was very stubborn so no progress was made. It is a shame that one of the team’s original members had to leave this way.”

At the moment, Coaches Kim Yang Joon and Kim Gwang Bok will be responsible for leading WeMade FOX through the 08-09 season. They have revealed that they are dividing up the responsibilities, but if needed they will hire a new coach.

Source by Reporter Lee Jung Han



Liquid`NonY in Korea!

Translated by LosingID8

[image loading]


WCG USA Champion Tyler (22, P) has joined eSTRO.

Tyler (ID: Liquid`NonY) achieved 1st place in the Scforall Spirit Tournament, held by IEG. If you placed 1st in that tournament, you had a chance to join eSTRO. After the tournament, he continued to show good results by winning WCG USA 2008, and at the WCG Grandfinals he reached the Round of 8 where many acknowledged his skill.

After WCG was over, Tyler was put through a 2-week entrance exam where he played against the eSTRO B-team. After reviewing his play, the coaching staff was convinced of his potential and decided to put him on the team.

Tyler was born in 1986 in the state of Florida, and majored in philosophy at Duke University. In a showmatch versus STX’s Park Sung Joon (July), he garnered a lot of interest due to his unique playstyle.

After hearing that he was accepted into the team, Tyler said that he was extremely happy, and that the staff and fellow players are very kind to him, so he doesn’t think he will have any problems adjusting. He wants to quickly raise his skill level so he can play a proleague match. He revealed this is his first major goal.

Coach Kim Hyun Jin said that “there are still many things that need to be improved, but he definitely has the potential and ability to play at the Korean level.”

With Greg Fields (CJ, T) and now Tyler, many people are looking forward to seeing what these foreigners can accomplish in Korea.

Tyler’s Profile:
Name: Tyler Wasieleski
ID: Liquid`NonY
Race: Protoss
Birthday: March 15, 1986
Birthplace: Tampa, Florida, USA
Hometown: San Antonio, Texas, USA
Siblings: 1 older brother
Education: DUKE UNIVERSITY, philosophy major.
Experience: WCG USA 2008 1st
      WCG Grand Final 2008 Quarterfinalist
      TeamLiquid StarLeague Semifinalist
      Scforall Spirit Tournament 1st
      WCG US Open 2007 1st
Has played Starcrat since: March of 2000
Reason why he plays Starcraft: Starcraft has the biggest e-sports scene and it is the best game.
Average Practice Time in the US: 6 hours per day
Favorite Korean progamer: Kim Taek Yong (Bisu, SKT)
Reason for choosing protoss: He is attracted to the charm of the reaver.
Goal in Korea: Appearing in a Proleague match.
Difference between Korean and Foreigners: There is a vast difference in all aspects of practice, and their knowledge of the game is on a different level.
Thoughts about eSTRO : I thought I would be alienated due to being a foreigner, but I was able to get close to them rather quickly. The other players are very good to me in both helping me practice and in real life situations.

Please continue discussing this article in the original thread.

[Translator's note: Due to differences in translation, some parts may be slightly different than the scforall version.]



Let us know what you think of Korean News Flash! Your feedback is very much appreciated!
Facebook Twitter Reddit
Last edit: 2008-12-13 20:32:07
Resident K-POP Elitist
Old Post

 
 Krohm   Canada. December 13 2008 20:37. Posts 1706
Profile Blog # 
That mutalisk attack information is really interesting. I think I need to start trying it out.

Also GL in Proleague Nony!
Old Post

 
 H   New Zealand. December 13 2008 20:40. Posts 5933
Profile Blog # 
That Mutalisk article is fucking mindblowing, I didn't even think about whether the Glaive is random or not. Sucks about the WeMade coach though, NaDa :<
Good article and good job translating, thanks LID8 ~
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi ownz | RIP _
Old Post

 
 anch   United States. December 13 2008 20:43. Posts 5457
Profile Blog # 
what they didnt throw a going away party for Yellow and Reach.
no one is grand as Boxer
Old Post

  Plexa       Administrator       December 13 2008 20:46.Profile Blog # 
Siiiiiick
~ Spirit will set you free ~
Old Post

 
 wurm   Philippines. December 13 2008 20:48. Posts 1751
Profile # 
Epic newsflash.. Everything worth reading.. Sad to read about Coach Won retiring though..

YellOw and Nony fighting!
I know where my towel is.
Old Post

  Divinek   Canada. December 13 2008 20:51. Posts 4016Profile Blog # 
That's sweet. I always thought the glaive was random, but it would make sense that there is somewhat of a pattern to it.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Old Post

 
 ChaoSbringer   Australia. December 13 2008 20:51. Posts 887
Profile Blog # 
Reach got a going away fan meeting thingo, not sure about Yellow though, probably not
Old Post

 
 Tekin   December 13 2008 20:53. Posts 2711
Profile Blog # 
Its NONY!!!. Can't NaDa become a coach for WemadeFOX?
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Old Post

 
 wo0py   Netherlands. December 13 2008 21:03. Posts 922
Profile Blog # 
Great newspost i love these kind of translations!

Might want to add spoilers iwht the translators opinion about it. It would add a nice extra to the post.
We shouldnt recreate anger of the non-virtual world
Old Post

  Last Romantic   United States. December 13 2008 21:04. Posts 20146Profile Blog # 
Poker degen fighting!
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ It's not four straight wins, it's 2^2 wins in a row for ACE - DCinside
Old Post

 
 lxginverse   Monaco. December 13 2008 21:06. Posts 1173
Profile # 
great news flash!

especially the one about the mutalisks ^^
TL CJ Entusman #4 XellOs/sAviOr/Luxury/EffOrt/Flash "I may not always be right... however I am never wrong..."
Old Post

 
 Spenguin   Australia. December 13 2008 21:08. Posts 3316
Profile Blog # 
Awesome post I love the News Flash

Thanks!!
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
Old Post

 
 SnowFantasy   December 13 2008 21:14. Posts 3661
Profile Blog # 
Duketoss fighting!

That mutalisk article was really really interesting though. Good work!
Old Post

 
 Ftrunkz   Australia. December 13 2008 21:18. Posts 2470
Profile Blog # 
haha, i love how you made 'duke uni' large and red after that ridiculous thread
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Old Post

 
 foeffa   Belgium. December 13 2008 21:31. Posts 2056
Profile Blog # 
Nice tx.
觀過斯知仁矣. Ma Jaeyoon, always #1. Entusman #17. Go HoNtresh!
Old Post

  MrHoon  *   December 13 2008 21:41. Posts 8572Profile Blog # 
that mutalisk thing is just absolutely mindblowing.
Its so strange how starcraft never ceases to evolve, it just keeps going up and up
beepbeepboop
Old Post

 
 29 fps   United States. December 13 2008 22:00. Posts 4876
Profile Blog # 
yes. the muta thing was just phenomenal. 10 years old, and still evolving. gotta give props to those who spent the time researching this kind of stuff.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Old Post

 
 ZhenMiChan   Netherlands. December 13 2008 22:03. Posts 1143
Profile Blog # 
Wow the muta study is sick!

again something to think off ;x
Studying Chinese~
Old Post

 
 fw  *   Korea (South). December 13 2008 22:05. Posts 1201
Profile # 
i don't know if this is discussed before but [b-blade]Leader (one of ogn proleague commentator)
mentioned another aspect about mutalisk micro after jaedong's wcg game.


try not to attack horizontally nor vertically in the battle. diagonal move gives better fires(hittings)
and progamers do so almost all the time.

Old Post

1 2 3 4 All
Please log in or register to reply.
 
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
StarCraft 2
Dota 2
[ Show 101 non-featured ]

» Recent SC2 Results
» Premier SC2 Tournaments

The Little App Factory