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 Liquid`Spy Netherlands. October 27 2003 16:31. Posts 1299 | Profile |
JW's are arrogant towards what they call the 'worldly' people (lit. translated from the dutch word, meaning others than jw). They think they're some kind of higher human beings. For being jw they use the term 'being in the truth' (also lit. translated from dutch). They think they're the chosen ones to help God rule over the new world (paradise earth) after the big cleansing. That's why they try to cut themselves off completely from the outer (read: real) world (FrozenArbiter formulated it quite fitting).
More importantly, jw they make it that their children can't do shit or enjoy their childhood: no birthdays, holidays, and no sex before marriage. Because of the seclusion from the outer world it's extremely hard to choose to stop being jw because then you get 'excluded' from the community and that way you lose all your contacts (sometimes even your parents) and you can start building your life from the start again. The Jehovah community is one where you're closely watched by your 'fellow' jw's whether you don't break one of the stupid little rules they live by.
And Poland: falling for a jw girl happened to me once too, and you don't want your girlfriend going through the shit she has to go through to break with the jw 'cult'. That girl's still my girlfriend, so I know what I'm talking about. Believe me, jw are a bunch of hypocrite scum.Last edit: 2003-10-27 23:04:50 |
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 X)Benny France. October 27 2003 17:30. Posts 1267 | Profile |
| How can a JW go out with a non-JW? I guess she's got a good step in the real wrold (otherwise you wouldn't stay with her), but still it must be especially hard for her, dancing between the two worlds and holding her family's pressure. |
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 FBS1 United Kingdom. October 27 2003 18:44. Posts 846 | Profile |
Being a JW means it is your duty to preach the 'truth'. This is why they knock on people's doors.
A JW should not go out with a non-JW. No exceptions.. |
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 Liquid`Meat Netherlands. October 27 2003 18:49. Posts 3504 | Profile Blog | |
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 baal October 27 2003 19:49. Posts 10329 | Profile |
well theres 1 good thingie about JW... they cant get transfussions so they die quick! yay!
die scum die!  |
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 ObsoleteLogic United States. October 27 2003 19:57. Posts 3676 | Profile |
Jehovah's Witnesses can be mean, in the States.
Then again, all the Christian denominations are crazy, cept Catholics. No bias here, or anything...
(I'm sure most of you rank Catholics just as, if not crazier, than JW's or Mormons. But hey, so are you! Its all in where you stand)
(P.S., actually, thats a lie, because objective truths exist, most people simply don't acknowledge them :D )Last edit: 2003-10-27 19:58:34 |
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| Liquid`Meat Netherlands. October 27 2003 20:09. Posts 3504 | Profile Blog |
| Well this isn't particular about JW, but i hate those fanatic religious people since i went to houseparties. When you had a great night and go home around 6.00 they are telling you will go to hell with this livestyle etc. |
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 Bill307  Canada. October 27 2003 21:08. Posts 8581 | Profile Blog |
| I think it depends primarily on which jw you happen to meet. Clearly they aren't all going to be exactly the same, as the stories here have shown. Although it is my opinion that their religious beliefs are seriously flawed, I wouldn't dislike anyone who was a jw unless they also possessed enough personality traits that I disliked as well, which would be a cause for disliking anyone regardless of their faith beliefs. E.g. I would care more about the attitude that each individual jw has when he or she visits other people than the actual act itself. But on the whole, I disagree with much of their religion. |
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 AeroGx United States. October 28 2003 00:51. Posts 37 | Profile |
On October 27 2003 16:31 Liquid`Spy wrote:
JW's are arrogant towards what they call the 'worldly' people (lit. translated from the dutch word, meaning others than jw). They think they're some kind of higher human beings. For being jw they use the term 'being in the truth' (also lit. translated from dutch). They think they're the chosen ones to help God rule over the new world (paradise earth) after the big cleansing. That's why they try to cut themselves off completely from the outer (read: real) world (FrozenArbiter formulated it quite fitting).
More importantly, jw they make it that their children can't do shit or enjoy their childhood: no birthdays, holidays, and no sex before marriage. Because of the seclusion from the outer world it's extremely hard to choose to stop being jw because then you get 'excluded' from the community and that way you lose all your contacts (sometimes even your parents) and you can start building your life from the start again. The Jehovah community is one where you're closely watched by your 'fellow' jw's whether you don't break one of the stupid little rules they live by.
And Poland: falling for a jw girl happened to me once too, and you don't want your girlfriend going through the shit she has to go through to break with the jw 'cult'. That girl's still my girlfriend, so I know what I'm talking about. Believe me, jw are a bunch of hypocrite scum.
Dear Liquid Spy, being a JW isn't a bad thing. When you talk about no part of the world it simply implies the attitudes, speech and conduct that happen contradict with God's ways. You'd know these things that are abstained from momentarally are benefical for all, just ask anybody with an std. I don't look down on anybody that does not share my faith. Proverbs 8:13 states: The fear of Jehovah means the hating of bad. Self-exaltation and pride and the bad way and the perverse mouth I have hated.(NW) I suggest you look at the December 1st 1998 Watchtower Page 13-18. If you feel it approriate to bring out a scripture so that everybody can tell if what youre saying is line with what the bible says i'd be very interested in seeing this. Take care,
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| baal October 28 2003 01:41. Posts 10329 | Profile |
What can i say, there are people who are so weak that cannot walk by the world without giving magical meaning to their lifes
its really so pathetic to see them.
BTW AeroGx, ill dance over your grave when you rot!, i hope when you are just 5 seconds about to die you realize all your life what bullshit yay! i l'd really love to see your face. |
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| Aukai United States. October 28 2003 01:45. Posts 884 | Profile |
| My brother's new g/f is a JW, and she converted him, I haven't met him, but we talked on the phone and hes been acting fucking werid, "If you have any problems, you can talk to me about them" He won't even talk to his sister he lived with for 18 odd years because of the dumb bitch. |
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| Liquid`Spy Netherlands. October 28 2003 01:49. Posts 1299 | Profile |
Dear Jace,
I'm sorry but I find it rather hard to understand what you are saying. Maybe it's my incompetence to understand complex english sentences, or maybe it's your incompetence to formulate understandable ones, but that's not the point here.
I didn't say anything that's meant to be in line with the bible, so why should I bring out scriptures? I'm only telling what my experiences are with jw's, and I think the terms they use to describe people and themselves sound arrogant. But that wasn't even really important compared to what I stated in my second paragraph, so I'd rather see you replying on that one too. Oh and I already knew the bible doesn't approve with arrogance, you don't have to bring out scriptures to convice me of that. It wouldn't be the first time religious people do things contractictory to the bible, that's hard to avoid, since the bible contradicts itself, there aren't thousands of different interpretations of this holy book for no reason...
But I'm not looking for an in-dept discussion of the bible, and I know you'd probably beat me there because you've studied it all your life and I only know the big picture.
as for the rest of what you said, could you please reformulate "When you talk......anybody with an std." and explain to me what std. stands for? Then I'd be able to give a good reply.
Thanks in advance. |
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| ObsoleteLogic United States. October 28 2003 01:54. Posts 3676 | Profile |
Sexually Transmitted Disease. Theres a picture of your mother next to its entry in the dictionary.
ZING!
I'm Catholic, I drink a lot. If you're going to hell Meat, most of my family will be there with you.
Though personally I don't take much to parties, but thats because I'm a cynical bastard who can't stand closed-minded people, which is the majority of them, religious and non-religious. |
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| poland Poland. October 28 2003 02:26. Posts 956 | Profile |
| way to much hate.. no respect here -_- |
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 SoLaR[i.C] United States. October 28 2003 02:27. Posts 1756 | Profile |
| They come to my door a lot! T.T |
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| AeroGx United States. October 28 2003 02:51. Posts 37 | Profile |
Dear Spy,
I apologize for not being clear with my reply, I'm not on here to win an argument with somebody that has no respect for truth in general or for the Bible itself. The bible does encourage you to look into it and have a relationship with God and also explains how. I wasn't always a JW and once I found the wisdom contained in the bible I realised whats right. I'm positive if you are willing you do the same you won't be sorry. The bible does not contradict itself but has different translations. Truth can be obtained by studying a variety of them and reason.
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| A3iL3r0n United States. October 28 2003 03:20. Posts 1888 | Profile Blog |
Debating God's will is pointless. He hasn't made it clear what he wants. You can claim to know, but then so does everyone else, the very existence of widespread discrepancies means that his will isn't clear. In other words, the existence of chaos proves the lack of order.
God is the most powerful being in existence. Does one honestly think that he needs you to help him express his will? And if he does, isn't that silly? I mean, as the most powerful being in existence, why be coy? You know your creations are prone to err and irrational behavior, why be so vague as to create a million variations on what your will is? Seems poorly planned to me.Last edit: 2003-10-28 03:36:51 |
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| LuckyCharm United Kingdom. October 28 2003 03:22. Posts 228 | Profile |
People can believe whatever cute stories they want if it comforts them and makes them less anxious about death and what, if anything, comes next. Good for them, I don't care. What I hate is when people (only ever Jehovah's Witnesses in my experience, no members of any other obscure denomination) come to my home and try to forcibly impose their irrational superstitions on me, thinking they're spiritually enlightened and have a duty to enlighten me and save me from the eternal fires of hell. Please.
And yeah, they have some petty beliefs. No sex before marriage or celebrating of birthdays for instance. But a more disturbing one, as someone mentioned earlier, is that blood transfusions are a moral no-no. If a JW would rather die than accept blood then fine, but would they not also refuse a transfusion on behalf of their young child if it needed it? |
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| AeroGx United States. October 28 2003 05:24. Posts 37 | Profile |
A3il3r0n,
Through history people wonder why we grow old and die and why don't we live forever, the book of Genisis suggests such a life was earned by sinning and eating the fruit. Why are there so many Churches? The bible foretold that Another illustration he set before them, saying: “The kingdom of the heavens has become like a man that sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat, and left. When the blade sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds appeared also. So the slaves of the householder came up and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it come to have weeds?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ They said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ He said, ‘No; that by no chance, while collecting the weeds, YOU uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest; and in the harvest season I will tell the reapers, First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up, then go to gathering the wheat into my storehouse." -Matthew 13:24 By this Illustration doesn't it seem apparent that Jesus' was emphasizing there can only be one "True Church"?
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 FrozenArbiter Sweden. October 29 2003 20:14. Posts 26834 | Profile Blog |
Dear Jace, since you are such a guillable.. I mean enlightened person you should check out this link:
The Truth is out there
There you can rejoice with equally guill -- enlightened people and share your infinite stup -- knowledge!Last edit: 2003-10-29 20:15:07 |
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I used to got them monthly until i went living on myself, but now i live in a moslim rich neighbourhood i havent seen 1 in 2 years 