 AlaNtIs]ZIN[ Uruguay. October 25 2003 23:36. Posts 142 | Profile |
| i know i dont want to start any religious war flaming or anything but i have to know.. what do you think of jw? because i have talked to some of them before and found it was like any other religion but people say they are a big cult and stuff... is this true? |
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 Frits Netherlands. October 25 2003 23:39. Posts 10698 | Profile |
They are just to cheap to buy presents so they cut in on holidays.
(Yes i think its a stupid cult, anything that doesnt allow you to have fun kinda sucks.) |
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| AlaNtIs]ZIN[ Uruguay. October 25 2003 23:42. Posts 142 | Profile |
| i read they dont celebreate christmas and stuff because it was said that the pegans started the holiday or some group and those people were against jesus so the jw figure why celebrate a bad groups holiday |
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 Talith United States. October 25 2003 23:46. Posts 1048 | Profile Blog |
On October 25 2003 23:39 FrZ[9] wrote:
They are just to cheap to buy presents so they cut in on holidays.
(Yes i think its a stupid cult, anything that doesnt allow you to have fun kinda sucks.)
not true, jw give presents all throughout the year, why be forced to do something nice for someone? and yes what Atlantas said was right, christmas dates back to pagan teachings, (how could sheep and farmers be out in bethlehem in freezing cold weather? --a) so why celebrate something false?Last edit: 2003-10-25 23:47:26 |
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 -Ba`alzamon- Sweden. October 25 2003 23:48. Posts 602 | Profile |
Well I dont like groups like jw because they are really boring when they ring on the door and tries to be smart =[
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| Shockey United States. October 25 2003 23:56. Posts 2615 | Profile |
| witnesses are annoying as hell. |
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Frozenarbiter don't be so mad at jw, they havent done you anything.
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| AeroGx United States. October 25 2003 23:56. Posts 37 | Profile |
MY name is Jace i'm a JW personally i'm just like anybody else except I adhere to the bible's standard of living. It the best way of living ive found and jesus was also accused of being alot of things like a drunkard, a glutton, a sabbath breaker, a false witness, and a blasphemer. -Matthew 11:19
Hope I did anything to help your question alantis
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| NoName United States. October 25 2003 23:57. Posts 1558 | Profile |
I had a JW friend in elementry school, he and his family seemed normal to me. He was Korean and good at video games -- go figure  . We played nintendo... he taught me to eat Raman noodles raw, with just a sprinkling of the MSG crap for flavor. Too bad his family moved away and we never kept in touch.
They never tried to convert me or anything. The only thing I know about JW is sometimes they would leave Watchtower magazines at our door, and they aren't allowed to get blood transfusions. |
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| FrozenArbiter Sweden. October 25 2003 23:59. Posts 26836 | Profile Blog |
On October 25 2003 23:56 Malmis wrote:
Frozenarbiter don't be so mad at jw, they havent done you anything.
But they have almoast killed poor me T_T
Yeah did your classmate try to convert you :O?
EDIT: spelling error ;(Last edit: 2003-10-25 23:59:27 |
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| Talith United States. October 26 2003 00:05. Posts 1048 | Profile Blog |
| jw's dont try to convert, they simply bring out what the bible says, and let others decide for themselves, sure jw have strict guidlines that they adhere by, but only because they try to appeal to God. The bible brings out to teach others about God's word, thats what Jw do, they aren't extremists, just trying to teach others. That's all. |
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| Malmis Sweden. October 26 2003 00:08. Posts 1561 | Profile Blog |
FrozenArbiter Sweden. October 25 2003 23:59. Posts 3979
Yeah did your classmate try to convert you :O?
EDIT: spelling error ;(
No, i was going past their church when i saw a young girl (like 7 years old) going to the church.
I decided to tell her what i feel about Jw(and religion in general), so i screamed:
THE BIBLE IS A FAIRY TALE
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| MPXMX Canada. October 26 2003 00:10. Posts 4307 | Profile |
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 Muhweli Finland. October 26 2003 00:23. Posts 5292 | Profile |
AeroGx, does bible really say your name in it? hehe.
Did you know that these Jehovah noobs once went on a mountain for several days and waited for a big flood which never came (surprice!). I bet their believes were well... hehehe. Personally the only thing you can get from a Jehovah is a good laugh plus a pain in the ass.
This is actually about mormon but it's still fun and sorta related to the topic:
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| AeroGx United States. October 26 2003 00:28. Posts 37 | Profile |
Sorry Muhweli I wasn't clear, this is the quote "the Son of man did come eating and drinking, still people say, ‘Look! A man gluttonous and given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works.”
And what do mormans have to do with Jehovahs Witnesses?
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| Micron United States. October 26 2003 00:56. Posts 208 | Profile |
| i see where they are coming from with the christmas being a pegan holiday. Santa / Satan he also wears that big red suit and eats cookies, who else but the devil himself could he be! |
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actually, i dont think we should generalize the whole JW society, i mean, i can understand getting pissed off when someone tries to convert u..that's just not cool.
but my point is, it's not just SOME jw..i have had some christian, catholic friends trying the conversion thing, and...i hate them, and i'd hate htem just as much if they were jw.
maybe their community is a little bit more secluded, but i'm sure not all of them want to go out and convert their friends, just as not all christians would do the same.
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| InSideOut Canada. October 26 2003 01:26. Posts 1035 | Profile |
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| AeroGx United States. October 26 2003 01:29. Posts 37 | Profile |
I can't say i know what happened with your expirience with trying to be converted but we're obligated to share what the bible says and let you decide for yourself. Matthew 24:14 says "And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."
I can understand where you coming from alot of the religons can be hypocritical
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| FrozenArbiter Sweden. October 26 2003 09:25. Posts 26836 | Profile Blog |
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| Amnesty United States. October 26 2003 09:36. Posts 1889 | Profile |
I hate how they send there kids in first. Cant really slam your door shut on a little five year old girl wearing a dress and 6 year old boy wearing a tux. You have to close the door more gently.
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| n8f8 United Kingdom. October 26 2003 11:50. Posts 222 | Profile |
| i know a jehovas witness and 1 of their beliefs is that we are all asleep to in the real world... just like the matrix... |
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| IPS.ZeRo Germany. October 26 2003 13:17. Posts 739 | Profile |
Hmm I just know that they are annoying when they are knocking on your house door and want to give you their magazine called "Wachturm".
But I don't realy like this Religion, because they are not allowed to take the blood of other people if they had an accident.
And I mean if you had a bad accident you just need blood and you will die if you are not allowed to take it.... thats not ok for me... |
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 Liquid`Drone Norway. October 26 2003 13:30. Posts 16907 | Profile |
I think it sucks how I've never been visited by jehovah's witnesses. so many possibilities for fun stuff to do. 
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| poland Poland. October 26 2003 15:16. Posts 956 | Profile |
well i had 2 experiences with jehovah's witnesses
1.) In poland we get a flat tire on the 'zakopianka' road ( i was young and with my mom so we were having trouble putting on a new one). A jehova's witness pulled over helped us out and talked with us.
2.) This summer, again in Poland, I am in krakow near the train station and there are these jws who are doing dances to these religious pop tunes. They came all the way from the usa, mainly pennsylvania. They did this mini play about some religious stuff and danced. I was bored so I watched the whole thing with a friend of mine. After that, they got down to talking with us and trying to get us to pray with them. I talked to this really cute chick, didnt ask her out though cause it would be kinda wierd cause she was leaving tommorow for Warsaw. Anyways she would probably try to convert me if I did . I really felt sorry for her when I left because she was trying so earnestly for me to pray with her and i said i would pray at home. She didnt believe me and was sad and stuff.
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| AlaNtIs]ZIN[ Uruguay. October 26 2003 16:02. Posts 142 | Profile |
| they said they tried to convert people because if they dont than its bad for them because their belief is, "if we have the knowledge and dont pass it on, it is thought to be selfish" |
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| mind October 26 2003 16:41. Posts 129 | Profile |
On October 26 2003 00:08 Malmis wrote:
FrozenArbiter Sweden. October 25 2003 23:59. Posts 3979
Yeah did your classmate try to convert you :O?
EDIT: spelling error ;(
No, i was going past their church when i saw a young girl (like 7 years old) going to the church.
I decided to tell her what i feel about Jw(and religion in general), so i screamed:
THE BIBLE IS A FAIRY TALE
Then two guys from there started chasing me T_T
omg you are a smart one :d |
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| PuReTosS Australia. October 26 2003 17:02. Posts 19 | Profile |
| i havnt really come in contact with any jw, but is it similar or has anyone heard of another fukked up type of religous people called bretherans |
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One of my best friends is one, his family is "fairly" normal, his mom is kinda wack though 
They've never tried to convert me, known them for 13 years. Also is friends with some of his JW friends, they've never tried either. |
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| poland Poland. October 26 2003 20:25. Posts 956 | Profile |
| damn she was really really cute and hot |
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 Bleww United States. October 27 2003 04:04. Posts 1080 | Profile |
haha there was a fat girl in my chemistry class last year who was a jw, i always made fun of her and s he'd freak out. funny stuff.
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| karelen Sweden. October 27 2003 04:11. Posts 2314 | Profile |
religion is a farse~~
and yeah, those jw f*cks came over once when me and some buddies were drinking some alcoholic beverages ( beeeer, the reason I get up every afternoon ) and when I offered them some they refused?? c'mon, anyone that refuses a free cold one cannot be trusted  Last edit: 2003-10-27 04:17:24 |
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| floody United States. October 27 2003 06:40. Posts 67 | Profile |
ever heard the joke:
a man dies and goes to heaven, and there is a tour guide waiting for him to show him around. the guide takes the man around to show him the different communities where different religions are. he walks past many of them saying, "this the mormon community, this is the catholic community. etc etc." and then he comes to this one community, and the guide tells the man to duck behind the wall and walk by quietly. and when they pass the wall and are clear, the man asks, "why did we have to duck past that one?" and the guide says, "that's the jehova witnesses community, and they think their the only ones here." |
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| STIMEY d okgm fish Canada. October 27 2003 07:17. Posts 6140 | Profile |
| the one true religion is not a cult. the rest are all cults. so the question is, is their religion the one true religion? |
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| Silverado October 27 2003 12:58. Posts 121 | Profile |
| As long as a person doesnt harm me or other decent ppl, I really don't care what their believes are. So I don't know why any decent person would have any bad opinions about JW. |
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 Liquid`Spy Netherlands. October 27 2003 16:31. Posts 1299 | Profile |
JW's are arrogant towards what they call the 'worldly' people (lit. translated from the dutch word, meaning others than jw). They think they're some kind of higher human beings. For being jw they use the term 'being in the truth' (also lit. translated from dutch). They think they're the chosen ones to help God rule over the new world (paradise earth) after the big cleansing. That's why they try to cut themselves off completely from the outer (read: real) world (FrozenArbiter formulated it quite fitting).
More importantly, jw they make it that their children can't do shit or enjoy their childhood: no birthdays, holidays, and no sex before marriage. Because of the seclusion from the outer world it's extremely hard to choose to stop being jw because then you get 'excluded' from the community and that way you lose all your contacts (sometimes even your parents) and you can start building your life from the start again. The Jehovah community is one where you're closely watched by your 'fellow' jw's whether you don't break one of the stupid little rules they live by.
And Poland: falling for a jw girl happened to me once too, and you don't want your girlfriend going through the shit she has to go through to break with the jw 'cult'. That girl's still my girlfriend, so I know what I'm talking about. Believe me, jw are a bunch of hypocrite scum.Last edit: 2003-10-27 23:04:50 |
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 X)Benny France. October 27 2003 17:30. Posts 1267 | Profile |
| How can a JW go out with a non-JW? I guess she's got a good step in the real wrold (otherwise you wouldn't stay with her), but still it must be especially hard for her, dancing between the two worlds and holding her family's pressure. |
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| FBS1 United Kingdom. October 27 2003 18:44. Posts 846 | Profile |
Being a JW means it is your duty to preach the 'truth'. This is why they knock on people's doors.
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 baal October 27 2003 19:49. Posts 10329 | Profile |
well theres 1 good thingie about JW... they cant get transfussions so they die quick! yay!
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 ObsoleteLogic United States. October 27 2003 19:57. Posts 3676 | Profile |
Jehovah's Witnesses can be mean, in the States.
Then again, all the Christian denominations are crazy, cept Catholics. No bias here, or anything...
(I'm sure most of you rank Catholics just as, if not crazier, than JW's or Mormons. But hey, so are you! Its all in where you stand)
(P.S., actually, thats a lie, because objective truths exist, most people simply don't acknowledge them :D )Last edit: 2003-10-27 19:58:34 |
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| Liquid`Meat Netherlands. October 27 2003 20:09. Posts 3504 | Profile Blog |
| Well this isn't particular about JW, but i hate those fanatic religious people since i went to houseparties. When you had a great night and go home around 6.00 they are telling you will go to hell with this livestyle etc. |
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 Bill307  Canada. October 27 2003 21:08. Posts 8583 | Profile Blog |
| I think it depends primarily on which jw you happen to meet. Clearly they aren't all going to be exactly the same, as the stories here have shown. Although it is my opinion that their religious beliefs are seriously flawed, I wouldn't dislike anyone who was a jw unless they also possessed enough personality traits that I disliked as well, which would be a cause for disliking anyone regardless of their faith beliefs. E.g. I would care more about the attitude that each individual jw has when he or she visits other people than the actual act itself. But on the whole, I disagree with much of their religion. |
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| AeroGx United States. October 28 2003 00:51. Posts 37 | Profile |
On October 27 2003 16:31 Liquid`Spy wrote:
JW's are arrogant towards what they call the 'worldly' people (lit. translated from the dutch word, meaning others than jw). They think they're some kind of higher human beings. For being jw they use the term 'being in the truth' (also lit. translated from dutch). They think they're the chosen ones to help God rule over the new world (paradise earth) after the big cleansing. That's why they try to cut themselves off completely from the outer (read: real) world (FrozenArbiter formulated it quite fitting).
More importantly, jw they make it that their children can't do shit or enjoy their childhood: no birthdays, holidays, and no sex before marriage. Because of the seclusion from the outer world it's extremely hard to choose to stop being jw because then you get 'excluded' from the community and that way you lose all your contacts (sometimes even your parents) and you can start building your life from the start again. The Jehovah community is one where you're closely watched by your 'fellow' jw's whether you don't break one of the stupid little rules they live by.
And Poland: falling for a jw girl happened to me once too, and you don't want your girlfriend going through the shit she has to go through to break with the jw 'cult'. That girl's still my girlfriend, so I know what I'm talking about. Believe me, jw are a bunch of hypocrite scum.
Dear Liquid Spy, being a JW isn't a bad thing. When you talk about no part of the world it simply implies the attitudes, speech and conduct that happen contradict with God's ways. You'd know these things that are abstained from momentarally are benefical for all, just ask anybody with an std. I don't look down on anybody that does not share my faith. Proverbs 8:13 states: The fear of Jehovah means the hating of bad. Self-exaltation and pride and the bad way and the perverse mouth I have hated.(NW) I suggest you look at the December 1st 1998 Watchtower Page 13-18. If you feel it approriate to bring out a scripture so that everybody can tell if what youre saying is line with what the bible says i'd be very interested in seeing this. Take care,
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| baal October 28 2003 01:41. Posts 10329 | Profile |
What can i say, there are people who are so weak that cannot walk by the world without giving magical meaning to their lifes
its really so pathetic to see them.
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| Aukai United States. October 28 2003 01:45. Posts 884 | Profile |
| My brother's new g/f is a JW, and she converted him, I haven't met him, but we talked on the phone and hes been acting fucking werid, "If you have any problems, you can talk to me about them" He won't even talk to his sister he lived with for 18 odd years because of the dumb bitch. |
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| Liquid`Spy Netherlands. October 28 2003 01:49. Posts 1299 | Profile |
Dear Jace,
I'm sorry but I find it rather hard to understand what you are saying. Maybe it's my incompetence to understand complex english sentences, or maybe it's your incompetence to formulate understandable ones, but that's not the point here.
I didn't say anything that's meant to be in line with the bible, so why should I bring out scriptures? I'm only telling what my experiences are with jw's, and I think the terms they use to describe people and themselves sound arrogant. But that wasn't even really important compared to what I stated in my second paragraph, so I'd rather see you replying on that one too. Oh and I already knew the bible doesn't approve with arrogance, you don't have to bring out scriptures to convice me of that. It wouldn't be the first time religious people do things contractictory to the bible, that's hard to avoid, since the bible contradicts itself, there aren't thousands of different interpretations of this holy book for no reason...
But I'm not looking for an in-dept discussion of the bible, and I know you'd probably beat me there because you've studied it all your life and I only know the big picture.
as for the rest of what you said, could you please reformulate "When you talk......anybody with an std." and explain to me what std. stands for? Then I'd be able to give a good reply.
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| ObsoleteLogic United States. October 28 2003 01:54. Posts 3676 | Profile |
Sexually Transmitted Disease. Theres a picture of your mother next to its entry in the dictionary.
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I'm Catholic, I drink a lot. If you're going to hell Meat, most of my family will be there with you.
Though personally I don't take much to parties, but thats because I'm a cynical bastard who can't stand closed-minded people, which is the majority of them, religious and non-religious. |
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| poland Poland. October 28 2003 02:26. Posts 956 | Profile |
| way to much hate.. no respect here -_- |
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| They come to my door a lot! T.T |
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| AeroGx United States. October 28 2003 02:51. Posts 37 | Profile |
Dear Spy,
I apologize for not being clear with my reply, I'm not on here to win an argument with somebody that has no respect for truth in general or for the Bible itself. The bible does encourage you to look into it and have a relationship with God and also explains how. I wasn't always a JW and once I found the wisdom contained in the bible I realised whats right. I'm positive if you are willing you do the same you won't be sorry. The bible does not contradict itself but has different translations. Truth can be obtained by studying a variety of them and reason.
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| A3iL3r0n United States. October 28 2003 03:20. Posts 1888 | Profile Blog |
Debating God's will is pointless. He hasn't made it clear what he wants. You can claim to know, but then so does everyone else, the very existence of widespread discrepancies means that his will isn't clear. In other words, the existence of chaos proves the lack of order.
God is the most powerful being in existence. Does one honestly think that he needs you to help him express his will? And if he does, isn't that silly? I mean, as the most powerful being in existence, why be coy? You know your creations are prone to err and irrational behavior, why be so vague as to create a million variations on what your will is? Seems poorly planned to me.Last edit: 2003-10-28 03:36:51 |
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| LuckyCharm United Kingdom. October 28 2003 03:22. Posts 228 | Profile |
People can believe whatever cute stories they want if it comforts them and makes them less anxious about death and what, if anything, comes next. Good for them, I don't care. What I hate is when people (only ever Jehovah's Witnesses in my experience, no members of any other obscure denomination) come to my home and try to forcibly impose their irrational superstitions on me, thinking they're spiritually enlightened and have a duty to enlighten me and save me from the eternal fires of hell. Please.
And yeah, they have some petty beliefs. No sex before marriage or celebrating of birthdays for instance. But a more disturbing one, as someone mentioned earlier, is that blood transfusions are a moral no-no. If a JW would rather die than accept blood then fine, but would they not also refuse a transfusion on behalf of their young child if it needed it? |
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| AeroGx United States. October 28 2003 05:24. Posts 37 | Profile |
A3il3r0n,
Through history people wonder why we grow old and die and why don't we live forever, the book of Genisis suggests such a life was earned by sinning and eating the fruit. Why are there so many Churches? The bible foretold that Another illustration he set before them, saying: “The kingdom of the heavens has become like a man that sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat, and left. When the blade sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds appeared also. So the slaves of the householder came up and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it come to have weeds?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ They said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ He said, ‘No; that by no chance, while collecting the weeds, YOU uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest; and in the harvest season I will tell the reapers, First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up, then go to gathering the wheat into my storehouse." -Matthew 13:24 By this Illustration doesn't it seem apparent that Jesus' was emphasizing there can only be one "True Church"?
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| FrozenArbiter Sweden. October 29 2003 20:14. Posts 26836 | Profile Blog |
Dear Jace, since you are such a guillable.. I mean enlightened person you should check out this link:
The Truth is out there
There you can rejoice with equally guill -- enlightened people and share your infinite stup -- knowledge!Last edit: 2003-10-29 20:15:07 |
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