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@Tasteless: AH! I sense a moment of reason among the delusion.
P>T, Z>P and T>Z is true even on pro level, stop denying it and saying that all races are equal. Each race has one favorable matchup, this has always been true over the years. What players say doesn't matter as much as statistics. Statistics are the most accurate thing we have to judge game balance. And because each race has exactly 1 favorable matchup, the races could be considered equal *overall*. But now P dominates.
Now to the important part: At the end you mentioned "it has to do with the maps". So in essence you agree that P is doing too well (due to maps, which I've already mentioned is the most likely possibility) and that it should be fixed. So... why is there even an argument? If the maps never get fixed, P remains the easiest race to play. That's simply the effect.
Can be closed now, but I needed to say this.
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But some are more ez than others.
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And some players are just better than others.
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this thread shoud be " Why is Terran EASY "
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You could've just PMed that, also the balance is 100% dependant on the maps as maps are what makes SC balanced or imbalanced.
But that does not mean that Protoss is better in .. erm what? Okay maybe I shouldn't have commented as I don't even have an idea what you're talking about but lets just forget it.
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I think at a professional gaming level there are small imbalances.
Nobody who has posted in this thread is good enough to play this game on that level.
Remember for the first 6 years of broodwar T>Z Z>P P>T.
Check out Jaedong,bisu and flash in any of those matchups.... they fucking rock. Imbalance is something that loose hanging vagina's rant about because they aren't good enough to abuse a turtle terran or can't outmacro 3 base toss carriers zvp.
Why not just make a blog instead of a bad thread?
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A few comments:
1) Is P dominating, or is it the 6 dragons? (this is an honest question; I don't know how well other P are doing in proleague for example) I think the answer will come with the next MSL and OSL.
2) Statistically speaking, if all races were equal and player skill distribution was random, so each race therefore had an equal chance of winning a tournament, there would be a 1/27 chance of all spots in a semifinal being the same race. There have been nearly 50 starleagues so the all-P MSL by itself isn't unexpected. On the other hand, if that happens again soon, or if P sends 3 players to a few semis in the next round of starleagues (looking at TLPD, this has happened a few times, not just with 3 P's but 3 of any one race making semis), then it becomes suspicious.
3) It's been shown, through mathematical equations and through analysis fo the past results, that back when P>T, T>Z, and Z>>P, this actually benefited T the most. I keep hearing that T>>Z in the pro scene right now. Could T's eliminating many of the P-killing Zergs (like July) be another thing that is really helping Toss out?
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I personally think modern maps have evened out the P>T, but instead put P>Z on a lot of maps. The only race I'd say is really hurting with currents maps is zerg. These modern macro-heavens lets P and T sit back inside their fortifications and still have access to 3 bases (usually 2 gas, 1minonly if ur not playing Loki etc). This nullifies part of zerg's natural advantage in great mobility and lets P and T get a strong midgame army without really having to open yourself up to counters. The major risk is instead getting too passive and letting zerg massexpand. But for that we have a multitude of harassment builds from P (corsair/dt, corsair/reaver, general storm and reaverdrops etc) and the mobility of SK terran and dropships to quickly shut down expansions if the zerg tries massexpand. Contain builds from zerg become less and less effective seeing as neither P nor T really has to leave their starting positions before the 8-9 minute mark.
No, I don't agree with your little formula, but I do agree that zergs are having a hard time with current maps. Both P and T are perfectly fine and thriving on current maps. As far as I can tell.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
no, you did not need to say this.
next time you make a new thread to reply to one that was just closed it's a ban
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thedeadhaji
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why did P get raped repeatedly for like 5 years then...
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thedeadhaji
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why is this thread taking so long to be closed after carnac posted in it, he must be sending a warning to the op first...
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
I thought I closed it before I posted -.- Must have forgotten to click update after I selected Closed in the drop down menu :/
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