| raga4ka Bulgaria. January 16 2009 02:28. Posts 5001 | Profile # |
On January 16 2009 02:22 disciple wrote:
guys your are so wrong PvZ is not bisu's best MU... thats his reputation but the fact is his PvP is his best... go check out the stats. before his OSL semi vs stork he had 15-15 record. After this he is on a total rampage against toss. After the series he is above 70% in the MU, not to mention that all bisu has done for his PvZ in the past year is to shit all over his impressive stats
Well PvP is maybe Bisu's best MU , but all of the six dragons have great PvP and are good vs someone and bad vs the other ( except maybe Free ? ) . Bisu's been known for his PvZ , because he boosts good results in a MU were good zergs dominate it .Last edit: 2009-01-16 02:29:38 |
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| Dante08 Singapore. January 16 2009 02:30. Posts 1730 | Profile Blog # |
On January 16 2009 02:24 Jyvblamo wrote:
Bisu really shouldn't have sold his PvZ to the devil in exchange for the PvT to beat Flash.
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| bladeip Macedonia. January 16 2009 02:30. Posts 11 | Profile # |
| How different would this PR be if Bisu had won against Zero and qualified for the MSL? I need an honest answer! |
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On January 16 2009 02:28 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:22 disciple wrote:
guys your are so wrong PvZ is not bisu's best MU... thats his reputation but the fact is his PvP is his best... go check out the stats. before his OSL semi vs stork he had 15-15 record. After this he is on a total rampage against toss. After the series he is above 70% in the MU, not to mention that all bisu has done for his PvZ in the past year is to shit all over his impressive stats
Well PvP is maybe Bisu's best MU , but all of the six dragons have great PvP and are good vs someone and bad vs the other . Bisu's been known for his PvZ , because he boosts good results in a MU were good zergs dominate it .
bisu is known for his pvz because nobody can do the things he can in this MU. His style is unique and great to watch. And btw Bisu has pretty solid records against all the 'dragons' even stork. I'm not excusing bisu's last 4 pvz losses, not at all. Just the comments about 'lol bisu lost in his best MU to 3 noobs' are really pissing me off. Last edit: 2009-01-16 02:33:24 |
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| Dante08 Singapore. January 16 2009 02:33. Posts 1730 | Profile Blog # |
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| Scamp United States. January 16 2009 02:33. Posts 971 | Profile # |
It is my opinion that the list right now is an over-reaction to the last week, as opposed to a look at the entire month or whatever period this covers.
That being said, I can't really object to the reasoning, and I like the list a lot.
But I really wonder if someone plays incredibly well for a month and then just so-so for a week if that player would be placed higher or lower than someone who was just so-so for a month but is then unstoppable for the week right before the list coming out.
Maybe it depends if the week includes qualifiers.
Anyway, I also think the list(s) from now on should be dated as opposed to just saying "January Power Ranking." I can look at the first reply to see when the list came out, I guess, but it's not so clear just how far back the list covers. |
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 Aesop Hungary. January 16 2009 02:34. Posts 10608 | Profile # |
| If anyone is arguing for putting Leta above Jangbi, you are totally neglecting the potential to go deep into individual leagues. There, Leta has shown NOTHING so far, opposed to Jangbi who has MSL Semis, MSL Finals and GOM Semis under his belt. Sea is a telling example of how good a player can be in Proleague and STILL fail to go far into Solo Leagues. |
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 FakeSteve[TPR] Valhalla. January 16 2009 02:35. Posts 17062 | Profile Blog # |
On January 16 2009 02:33 Scamp wrote:
It is my opinion that the list right now is an over-reaction to the last week, as opposed to a look at the entire month or whatever period this covers.
That being said, I can't really object to the reasoning, and I like the list a lot.
But I really wonder if someone plays incredibly well for a month and then just so-so for a week if that player would be placed higher or lower than someone who was just so-so for a month but is then unstoppable for the week right before the list coming out.
Maybe it depends if the week includes qualifiers.
Anyway, I also think the list(s) from now on should be dated as opposed to just saying "January Power Ranking." I can look at the first reply to see when the list came out, I guess, but it's not so clear just how far back the list covers.
At the top of the screen when you read the Power Rank, the date it came out appears. It also shows it on the main Power Rank page with all the previous listings, I think. |
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| Geo.Rion Hungary. January 16 2009 02:37. Posts 5350 | Profile Blog # |
On January 16 2009 02:27 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:26 Fwmeh wrote:
I wonder how many of the people hating on Jangbi have actually bothered to watch any of his games. I said it in the old thread that I don't think he deserves 1st just yet. But that he would lack the ability to win an individual league is just laughable. I personally believe Stork when he says that Jangbi is the best player on Samsung, and I think it is only a matter of time before he proves it in a convincing manner.
Yeah, it's pretty unreasonable to say that Jangbi doesn't have the skillset necessary to win a title. This is coming from someone who really doesn't like Jangbi, too.
No, that came from me, and i sustain it. I dont hate Jangbi, i even have him in my Fanrasy PL team even though i don't pick players or teams i dont like. But i'm absolutely sure he would loose in a final against any of the top players (JD, Flash, Bisu, Best) and might very well loose against players like Fantasy |
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| FakeSteve[TPR] Valhalla. January 16 2009 02:37. Posts 17062 | Profile Blog # |
On January 16 2009 02:34 Aesop wrote:
If anyone is arguing for putting Leta above Jangbi, you are totally neglecting the potential to go deep into individual leagues. There, Leta has shown NOTHING so far, opposed to Jangbi who has MSL Semis, MSL Finals and GOM Semis under his belt. Sea is a telling example of how good a player can be in Proleague and STILL fail to go far into Solo Leagues.
Yep. Sea was every bit as dominant in PL as Leta currently is, it happened sooner in his career than it did Leta's (He wasn't on the team very long before he was put in the PL roster), and look where Sea is right now. Struggles in series play 
Not to say the parallel is concrete, just noting that we shouldn't get TOO excited.Last edit: 2009-01-16 02:39:36 |
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| Fwmeh January 16 2009 02:41. Posts 818 | Profile # |
| Btw Steve, while I guess he wont get much credit for that one game, wouldn't it be true to say that ZerO has shown promise, especially in ZvT? It is certainly true that he is inconsistent, but I think that his games vs Flash, FBH and Sea has shown that he is at least capable of high-level ZvT. |
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| Ideas United States. January 16 2009 02:41. Posts 7428 | Profile Blog # |
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| QuietIdiot January 16 2009 02:42. Posts 7000 | Profile Blog # |
| By.great deserves some kind of mention imo. |
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| Coulthard Greece. January 16 2009 02:42. Posts 3359 | Profile # |
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| FakeSteve[TPR] Valhalla. January 16 2009 02:44. Posts 17062 | Profile Blog # |
On January 16 2009 02:41 Fwmeh wrote:
Btw Steve, while I guess he wont get much credit for that one game, wouldn't it be true to say that ZerO has shown promise, especially in ZvT? It is certainly true that he is inconsistent, but I think that his games vs Flash, FBH and Sea has shown that he is at least capable of high-level ZvT.
Zero shows something I wouldn't call 'promise'. His career is more lengthy than you might think. He is certainly capable of good play, and he put together a great string of games helping Woongjin take a short-lived #1 in PL weeks ago.
Zero is slowly but steadily learning how to be a top-level Zerg. Whether he will succeed or not, we'll have to wait and see, but from his play you can certainly tell he's trying to lay the foundation down. |
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| Geo.Rion Hungary. January 16 2009 02:46. Posts 5350 | Profile Blog # |
On January 16 2009 02:28 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 02:22 disciple wrote:
guys your are so wrong PvZ is not bisu's best MU... thats his reputation but the fact is his PvP is his best... go check out the stats. before his OSL semi vs stork he had 15-15 record. After this he is on a total rampage against toss. After the series he is above 70% in the MU, not to mention that all bisu has done for his PvZ in the past year is to shit all over his impressive stats
Well PvP is maybe Bisu's best MU , but all of the six dragons have great PvP and are good vs someone and bad vs the other ( except maybe Free ? ) . Bisu's been known for his PvZ , because he boosts good results in a MU were good zergs dominate it .
Actually PvP isnt the best MU of the Dragons. I would call it slightly the worst. Bisu and Best are really good at it, Free, Kal struggle, Jangbi is ok, and Stork used to be super-strong but recently he lost to backho and some other losses in PL.
Everybody but Stork and Best got very good vZ skills, and even them, mostly Best, are showing results against good zergs. And who has weak vT? Kal maybe? I'd say he's just inconsistent, but... |
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| FakeSteve[TPR] Valhalla. January 16 2009 02:46. Posts 17062 | Profile Blog # |
On January 16 2009 02:42 QuietIdiot wrote:
By.great deserves some kind of mention imo.
Wait, you mean the zerg from Samsung? Formerly known as Hades? Why?
I'll grant you he has some strong ZvZ, but nothing else I've seen has made me think he has any sort of league success in his future. Can you point out some recent games that make you think he's worth mentioning? I'm sure I haven't seen all of them, cuz he's played almost nothing but scrubs. |
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