| uppTagg Sweden. April 30 2009 04:20. Posts 473 | Profile Blog # |
| Having trouble downloading your Reppack2 :< Mediafire says the file doesn't exist anymore. :s |
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| StylishVODs Sweden. April 30 2009 04:31. Posts 4988 | Profile # |
On April 30 2009 04:20 uppTagg wrote:
Having trouble downloading your Reppack2 :< Mediafire says the file doesn't exist anymore. :s
I just looked, it exists.
I don't know why you can't download it. Try refresh page or restart computer hehe. |
| | According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was. |
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| Sherona Canada. April 30 2009 05:42. Posts 6 | Profile # |
Stylish thanks for the VODS, I have a question.
When I play TvZ on iCCup, 9/10 times the zerg goes 9 pool into fast gas and does some kind of 3 hatch all-in speed ling build. I usually try to start by FEing (9 minute push strat) to work on my mid/late game but I end up getting overwhelmed by a group of lings before I can get my CC up. I tried going 2 barrack into fast academy and when i tried to move out with 10 marines 2 firebat and 2 medics, they would just run around the whole map with like 20 lings and when I attack the sunken line they would just get me from behind.
Do you have any advice on how to play vs these all-in speed ling zergs? (This is the only build i see on iCCup atm level D -_-)
Thanks Stylish |
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| StylishVODs Sweden. April 30 2009 05:59. Posts 4988 | Profile # |
Sherona:
When facing 9pool speed into fast lair or expansion you have to switch build.
One good way to "counter" it is to place a refinary and an academy upon the first barrack is finnished. From here make marines, add a second barrack and a suplydepot.
Block ramp with 3 scvs and 2/3 marines until you get your firebats out, if you do it properly you will get 3 marines from your first factory and then a medic and when the academy finnishes you will be able to make 1 bat from each barrack.
Use 3marines 2bats 1medic and move out. This will sometimes kill the zerg completely, specially if you see that he's trying to take an expansion and sometimes you can bring all your scvs aswell like in the roflstrategy.
Make sure to make another 2 firebats after the initial first if the zerg decides to make a backstab and also if you break his sunkens and have firebats reinforcing his lings wont be able to kill you.
I will post a replay of this sometime soon. |
| | According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was. |
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| ZzZzAnG United States. April 30 2009 07:10. Posts 109 | Profile # |
lols i watched one of tvz games vs naugrim
+ Show Spoiler +i cant believe you used nuke strat .it was pretty funny imo |
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| Tbake United States. April 30 2009 09:53. Posts 71 | Profile # |
Stylish, How good is a build like this.
1 Fac Seige expand. Get about 3-4 into quick dropship/upgrades. Using 4 vul for the first drop and then tanks and such as the next drop. While doing build just getting those quick upgrades and build up tank count while taking a 3rd.
I dono if the quick dropship is worth it or not, I belive its not a bad idea since most toss take a quick 3rd to counter a fe terran, so there def is not the greatest at that time. |
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| StylishVODs Sweden. April 30 2009 10:17. Posts 4988 | Profile # |
TBake:
I'm assuming when you say "get about 3-4", you mean factories?
Anyway, what you're describing is basically a strategy where you get fast upgrades and taking a fast third while you're harassing the opponent, with dropships and vultures, while you're massing u and waiting for a upgrade timing and a push.
This is basically the flashstrategy. I've made a VOD of it.
In this "flash bo" you will actually get the dropship on 2 factories(starting to build 2 more).
So the answer is:
Yes, its good to use the starport to your advantage, since you need it anyway for upgrades you might aswell use it for dropship harass.
Note that its most effective if you harass on the ground with vultures and drop at the same time.
You can also move vultures on the ground and tanks in the dropships to make a tank + minefield somewhere on the map with great mobility.
ZzZzang:
Yeah that game was epic.
To naugrims defense, its a few months old.
But the strategy is actually very doable vs any 3hatch muta opening, specially if you can deny him scouting the none-existing expansion!:D
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| | According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was. |
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| Tbake United States. April 30 2009 10:25. Posts 71 | Profile # |
| NOno i ment after 3-4 tanks sorry |
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| Tbake United States. April 30 2009 10:27. Posts 71 | Profile # |
On April 30 2009 10:25 Tbake wrote:
NOno i ment after 3-4 tanks sorry
becuase bascily harras will give some pressure to toss, and the fast armoy will be for ups, and this reason being becuase you already have the port, the +2 will be a more natural trans |
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| StylishVODs Sweden. April 30 2009 10:31. Posts 4988 | Profile # |
TBake:
Yes, early starport can be good aswell. The reason why flashes build is so good is that he times the starport with the upgrades for maximal efficiency.
If you want to get a starport earlier and harassing him it will be abit harder to take your third fast, but if you can still be safe its doable.
However, usually its better to either get the starport really early on 1 base and go for like a dropship strat, or to get the port at about 65-75 suply.
But sometimes you can screw the timings and change things.
What you will accomplish with faster harass is a defending protoss rather than an attacking protoss, so you can get your third up safe.
In the flashbuild, the first preassure is made by the 4 vultures on the ground, this will also give you mapcontrol. You could do this with a dropship aswell, but it will be slightly slower and abit more risky.Last edit: 2009-04-30 10:33:32 |
| | According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was. |
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| MeriaDoKk Chile. April 30 2009 14:57. Posts 1700 | Profile Blog # |
| THANK YOU SO MUCH, it's been months since i played, I used your 9Min time push (TvZ) and won my first game :D!!!!!! Last edit: 2009-04-30 15:01:55 |
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| Terranlisk Singapore. May 01 2009 00:48. Posts 1391 | Profile Blog # |
| which replay has the nuke? |
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| Zerg_Sasuke May 02 2009 17:32. Posts 176 | Profile # |
Holy shit this stuff is absolutely amazing :O I wonder about changing race to terran now :O
By the way : What the Zerg counter to A-yu-mi`s build ? Last edit: 2009-05-02 19:28:00 |
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| Bebop Berserker United States. May 05 2009 02:34. Posts 246 | Profile # |
| I believe you just make a bunch of sunkens and micro them. Your mutas should be plenty of offense so your eco/tech can take a hit. they got your initial 9 mutas out and did their job. Also 2 hatch utterly destroys this with the same ideas as above applied but maybe a few less sunken. |
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| SeigeTankHero United States. May 05 2009 05:10. Posts 20 | Profile # |
| Is their a TvZ Mech Build vs 2 Hatch build Vod? I downloaded the TvZ Mech Build vs 2 Hatch game Vod. But the link for the build Vod just takes me to the main page of filefront. Last edit: 2009-05-05 05:10:58 |
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| PaeZ Mexico. May 05 2009 12:44. Posts 1536 | Profile # |
| Just watched some VODS and have to say you are the shit dude! never have learnt so much about BW before! keep up the good work and hopefully make a mogulus account so that we can see you in action! kicking some ass! |
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| AttackZerg United States. May 05 2009 13:55. Posts 6322 | Profile Blog # |
PAGING STYLISH!
AttackZerg Needs to practice against your disgustingly good mech play!
Motivation for broodwar is demanded!
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| | Please read my first published essay! - http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/dont-hate-us/content?oid=4618023 - Please read! |
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| StylishVODs Sweden. May 05 2009 21:49. Posts 4988 | Profile # |
Thnx guys!
Zerg_Sasuke:
2Hatch lurk (not muta) is the best way to counter it, but if you 2hatch the terran won't usually a-yu-mi since its a build vs 3hatch zerg.
If you're already on 3 hatch the best way is probably to get 5 sunkens before making the mutalisks. Your mutalisks will be delayed but you will be safe and can harass him when he's out with his units.
Terran has cut quite a few scvs to get to the perfect timing and from here its pretty much even.
You can't really hard counter it if you've already placed a spire on 3hatch.
SiegeTankHero:
I'll look into it, there is a buildvod. I might need to reupload it.
AttackZerg:
Would be glad to but atm I cannot play at all.
I'll hopefully get the new computer soon and then I can play. However I've been away from starcraft for over a month now, I might be the one in need of practice^^
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| Nitrogen United States. May 05 2009 23:26. Posts 5298 | Profile Blog # |
^ srsly... i miss your beautiful voice |
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