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| raga4ka Bulgaria. March 05 2009 00:36. Posts 5002 | Profile # |
On March 04 2009 23:27 SnowFalling wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 04 2009 23:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
After game 5, the first thing Jaedong said in his interview was "I just got lucky, this series isn't over".
Pretty classy of JD to say that straight up. Game 5 was an utter disappointment. Was there translations for the post-game interview?
yes, Daniel Lee translated it as it was conducted.
You can also find the game on Youtube uploaded by Baezzi with english subtitles . |
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 FakeSteve[TPR] Valhalla. March 05 2009 00:37. Posts 17062 | Profile Blog # |
On March 05 2009 00:21 raga4ka wrote:The Top 7 looks solid , but after that players can change a bit : Not only Light has looked good in WL out of the terrans also Hiya and iris and some other terrans have produced results . I probably would have switched Light with Hiya after OZ vs Khan . He beat JangBi on Andromeda and Stork on Medusa i know both JangBi and Stork didn't played the best of their abilitys , but Hiya played some fine starcraft and taking out those two an those maps is an amazing achievement i would say . Hwasin's placement is fine definitely better then placing other players like Fantasy/Nada/ForGG for now . Also i would replace hyvaa with by.hero , but thats my thought and personal pick . Hyvaa has been doing pretty good in WL and some of his games are top notch not to mention that he has been doing 3 kills and other stuff like that , but i think that by.hero is a better zerg then hyvaa . He is the only zerg who now has a winning record together with maybe Jaedong against Bisu in recent events . He is 3 - 0 against Bisu this past months and 3 - 1 overall ( he has 1 loss to Bisu in PL 2007 where on one knew him . ) . His most recent game against Bisu on Taucross he showed that he is a master of macro and control in ZvP and his play style is similar to July . Also i would note that in his ZvT games that weren't against mech and he wasn't bunker rushed (Fantasy  ) he has looked pretty good i would say . I think he is a solid player in both ZvP and ZvT although i have to see more ZvTs from him to claim that statement . What i do know is that his ZvP is one be feared . Other then that the PR is solid , people could argue that Zero can be added here but based only on his ZvZ .... that wouldn't be a good call . I'm also glad that you gave some less popular players like hyvaa and Light spots , and not the more common Best/Kal/Free choices . Great work and Thank you !  I hope the CBNC comes out quick so that there is something to read :D .
Legitimate arguments in all, good post. Hiya's performance has been solid but there are key triggers that I value over other things. Light has been firing on all cylinders, and Hiya has been winning constantly with much more help from build order advantages. While that says a lot about his ability to prepare in a short time, his play hasn't been as solid as Light or hyvaa, who have done basically whatever the fuck they want in their WL games and walked away with a victory. With the style of play Hiya is using, his success isn't guaranteed to be long-term. Light and hyvaa are playing much stronger overall. This is, of course, subject to change, as no progamer in the history of time has played to the best of his abilities 100% of the time.
by.hero has won 4 of his last 10 games. That ought to be a pretty clear indication of his performance.
And yeah, ETA on CBNC is about 3 days. There's much more I have to think about. Mani, if you've got things you want to say there, please feel free Last edit: 2009-03-05 00:39:01 |
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| ZBiR Poland. March 05 2009 00:41. Posts 1056 | Profile Blog # |
Very good PR (unlike the previous one T_T)
Thanks for your effort. |
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| Dante08 Singapore. March 05 2009 00:44. Posts 1730 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Sunyveil United States. March 05 2009 00:49. Posts 3765 | Profile Blog # |
I feel like Hiya's been playing a little better than Hyvaa. In WL, they both have won 2/3 of their games (with Hyvaa playing a few more games) but I feel like Hiya's faced tougher opponents
other than that, no complaints other than Stork's about to get raped in both SLs and probably doesn't deserve his spot |
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| Axieoqu Finland. March 05 2009 00:54. Posts 174 | Profile # |
| by.hero has been looking just devastating lately. |
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| animus123 United States. March 05 2009 00:59. Posts 171 | Profile # |
On March 05 2009 00:44 Dante08 wrote:
Sorry but what is CNBC?
close but no cigar
aka honorable mention |
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| StylishVODs Sweden. March 05 2009 01:02. Posts 4988 | Profile # |
This post mostly concerns the top 5.
If its based only on performance then I agree with the rankings.
However if you mix in pure skill and who's most likely to be a favourite against anyone along with performance then i can't agree with luxury being above flash. Jangbi i don't really know havent watched all his games.
For example Luxury did win his games vs Leta in a very weak manner. It was more Leta losing than Luxury winning. Flash got out of this MSL by a freakin BBS and I'm sure that if he got past Leta he would have slayed Luxury like it was nothing because his TvZ has been absolute monstrous lately and overall I think he's the better player.
In my oppinion the top 3 players at the moment is JD Bisu and Flash with Bisu having to take the first spot because of his consistancy to perform at his highest level, whereas he's the worst of the three when all of them are performing their best.
I know you have to take in account the MSL and OSL but I think this was very harsh on Flash.
I mean when Flash enters a WL match most people wont even get suprised if he all-kills, and I can't say the same for Lux and Jangbi.
In my oppinion, a proper mix of who's performing best at the moment along with who's actually playing the best starcraft would have lifted Flash a spot or two in the rankings.
But maybe we have different views on what matters.
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| Darth Peter Romania. March 05 2009 01:07. Posts 438 | Profile # |
On March 05 2009 00:49 Sunyveil wrote:
I feel like Hiya's been playing a little better than Hyvaa. In WL, they both have won 2/3 of their games (with Hyvaa playing a few more games) but I feel like Hiya's faced tougher opponents
other than that, no complaints other than Stork's about to get raped in both SLs and probably doesn't deserve his spot
I think the same but unfortunately you may never know with Stork. You cannot take him as an underdig because he will bite your dick off. I certainly hope that he gets raped because I don't like him,but he has to be the favourite against ForGG,and between teammates,anything can happen so he can beat Jangbi. I don't give him too much of a chance,but hey,you can't take him lightly. I don't talk about his match with JD,because there I am almost 90%sure that JD will win. |
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| Darth Peter Romania. March 05 2009 01:10. Posts 438 | Profile # |
On March 05 2009 01:02 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
This post mostly concerns the top 5.
If its based only on performance then I agree with the rankings.
However if you mix in pure skill and who's most likely to be a favourite against anyone along with performance then i can't agree with luxury being above flash. Jangbi i don't really know havent watched all his games.
For example Luxury did win his games vs Leta in a very weak manner. It was more Leta losing than Luxury winning. Flash got out of this MSL by a freakin BBS and I'm sure that if he got past Leta he would have slayed Luxury like it was nothing because his TvZ has been absolute monstrous lately and overall I think he's the better player.
In my oppinion the top 3 players at the moment is JD Bisu and Flash with Bisu having to take the first spot because of his consistancy to perform at his highest level, whereas he's the worst of the three when all of them are performing their best.
I know you have to take in account the MSL and OSL but I think this was very harsh on Flash.
I mean when Flash enters a WL match most people wont even get suprised if he all-kills, and I can't say the same for Lux and Jangbi.
In my oppinion, a proper mix of who's performing best at the moment along with who's actually playing the best starcraft would have lifted Flash a spot or two in the rankings.
But maybe we have different views on what matters.
That's what people said before their OSL match in Ever OSL,when Lux 2-0'd Flash. Also,performing well in WL doens't make you the best player. Lux and Jangbi are fairly good in WL(Lux having an all-kill himself,don't mind me),and they are in at least one league. You have to play well in order to survive.
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| FakeSteve[TPR] Valhalla. March 05 2009 01:11. Posts 17062 | Profile Blog # |
On March 05 2009 01:07 Darth Peter wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 00:49 Sunyveil wrote:
I feel like Hiya's been playing a little better than Hyvaa. In WL, they both have won 2/3 of their games (with Hyvaa playing a few more games) but I feel like Hiya's faced tougher opponents
other than that, no complaints other than Stork's about to get raped in both SLs and probably doesn't deserve his spot
I think the same but unfortunately you may never know with Stork. You cannot take him as an underdig because he will bite your dick off. I certainly hope that he gets raped because I don't like him,but he has to be the favourite against ForGG,and between teammates,anything can happen so he can beat Jangbi. I don't give him too much of a chance,but hey,you can't take him lightly. I don't talk about his match with JD,because there I am almost 90%sure that JD will win.
Stork has said many many times that he literally never beats Jangbi in practice. Take from that what you will |
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| Lockon Stratos United States. March 05 2009 01:15. Posts 126 | Profile # |
| Hyvaa? Wtf.... hes not in any SLs, should put by.hero on there instead for making it out of his tough OSL group. |
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| Darth Peter Romania. March 05 2009 01:16. Posts 438 | Profile # |
On March 05 2009 01:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 01:07 Darth Peter wrote:
On March 05 2009 00:49 Sunyveil wrote:
I feel like Hiya's been playing a little better than Hyvaa. In WL, they both have won 2/3 of their games (with Hyvaa playing a few more games) but I feel like Hiya's faced tougher opponents
other than that, no complaints other than Stork's about to get raped in both SLs and probably doesn't deserve his spot
I think the same but unfortunately you may never know with Stork. You cannot take him as an underdig because he will bite your dick off. I certainly hope that he gets raped because I don't like him,but he has to be the favourite against ForGG,and between teammates,anything can happen so he can beat Jangbi. I don't give him too much of a chance,but hey,you can't take him lightly. I don't talk about his match with JD,because there I am almost 90%sure that JD will win.
Stork has said many many times that he literally never beats Jangbi in practice. Take from that what you will
Yeah,but if I remember correctly Anytime said that ForGG rarely won against JD,and he was surprised that he won in the MSL finals. Besides,if I remember correctly about the interview you're talking about,Stork said that lately he is like 50% against Jangbi in practice games,so he found out how to beat him. In their two OSL games in Ever OSL,JAngbi beat him ofc. I'm not saying I would consider Stork the favourite,but hell,I try to not get in underrating Storks chances because I did that before he faced Best and I was disssapointed. |
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| Djabanete United States. March 05 2009 01:18. Posts 2234 | Profile Blog # |
On March 05 2009 00:49 Sunyveil wrote:
other than that, no complaints other than Stork's about to get raped in both SLs and probably doesn't deserve his spot
Is he going to hit Jangbi in the MSL bracket? He'll probably lose to Jangbi and Jaedong then, poor guy
Stork is just amazingly good at getting through leagues.
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| BWdero Netherlands. March 05 2009 01:21. Posts 476 | Profile # |
On March 05 2009 01:18 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 00:49 Sunyveil wrote:
other than that, no complaints other than Stork's about to get raped in both SLs and probably doesn't deserve his spot
Is he going to hit Jangbi in the MSL bracket? He'll probably lose to Jangbi and Jaedong then, poor guy Stork is just amazingly good at getting through leagues.
Yes, the winners of Jangbi vs Nada and Stork vs Forgg will face each other. |
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| Darth Peter Romania. March 05 2009 01:22. Posts 438 | Profile # |
On March 05 2009 01:18 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 00:49 Sunyveil wrote:
other than that, no complaints other than Stork's about to get raped in both SLs and probably doesn't deserve his spot
Is he going to hit Jangbi in the MSL bracket? He'll probably lose to Jangbi and Jaedong then, poor guy Stork is just amazingly good at getting through leagues.
If he beats ForGG and Jangbi beats Nada-both of them seem inevitable- then they will meet in the semi -finals. |
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| okum Austria. March 05 2009 01:25. Posts 5700 | Profile Blog # |
Sending Flash to #5 for dropping out of both leagues is perfectly fair, given that Bisu was sent to #5 when he dropped out of both leagues two months ago. Too bad Flash won't get a second chance, though.
Bisu certainly deserves #1 this month, and Jaedong #2.
But Jangbi #3, seriously? He just lost three games in a row in WL, contributing to three losses for his team. Not that the other contenders on the list can be credited with consistency (thinking particularly of Luxury -- who has been playing both spectacularly and craptacularly alternatingly), but that's poor.
Generally, a very good PR. Light, Hwasin and hyvaa all earned their entries. |
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| KnightOfNi United States. March 05 2009 01:34. Posts 1503 | Profile # |
| HYVAA!!!! He's really been deserving notice recently, and I'm glad he got some here. He just doesn't lose against anyone who isn't S Class. He loses to free's insane PvZ, Flash's TvZ, Bisu's selfexplanatory PvZ and JD's ZvZ. Thats been about it. Glad you see it the same way FS. |
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