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| raga4ka Bulgaria. April 05 2009 18:36. Posts 5042 | Profile # |
| I still think Luxury should be second . He has shown better results then fantasy this past month .Even thought Fantasy was great in his semis and final , he didn't win and Luxury has the more impressive all - around performance . Fantasy should be third and from there on its enyone's spot . Last edit: 2009-04-05 18:36:42 |
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| Darth Peter Romania. April 05 2009 19:05. Posts 438 | Profile # |
On April 05 2009 18:36 raga4ka wrote:
I still think Luxury should be second . He has shown better results then fantasy this past month .Even thought Fantasy was great in his semis and final , he didn't win and Luxury has the more impressive all - around performance . Fantasy should be third and from there on its enyone's spot .
Lux no way has better overall performances. In fact, Fantasy beat Lux himself in his OSL road. This month,Fantasy showed far more,than Luxury. Perhaps Fantasy wouldn't have beaten Jangbi,but Lux wouldn't have beaten Bisu either,and the point is,he couldn't even beat Fantasy,and don't tell me Luxury's path to the MSL championship was harder than Fanta's path to the OSL finals,and I thnik there is no player on the world right now that would have fared better against Jaedong than Fantasy did. |
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| Zinbiel Sweden. April 05 2009 19:18. Posts 804 | Profile # |
On April 05 2009 19:05 Darth Peter wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 05 2009 18:36 raga4ka wrote:
I still think Luxury should be second . He has shown better results then fantasy this past month .Even thought Fantasy was great in his semis and final , he didn't win and Luxury has the more impressive all - around performance . Fantasy should be third and from there on its enyone's spot .
Lux no way has better overall performances. In fact, Fantasy beat Lux himself in his OSL road. This month,Fantasy showed far more,than Luxury. Perhaps Fantasy wouldn't have beaten Jangbi,but Lux wouldn't have beaten Bisu either,and the point is,he couldn't even beat Fantasy,and don't tell me Luxury's path to the MSL championship was harder than Fanta's path to the OSL finals,and I thnik there is no player on the world right now that would have fared better against Jaedong than Fantasy did.
Maybe skyhigh... |
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| verzisor Romania. April 05 2009 19:20. Posts 73 | Profile # |
On April 05 2009 19:05 Darth Peter wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 05 2009 18:36 raga4ka wrote:
I still think Luxury should be second . He has shown better results then fantasy this past month .Even thought Fantasy was great in his semis and final , he didn't win and Luxury has the more impressive all - around performance . Fantasy should be third and from there on its enyone's spot .
Lux no way has better overall performances. In fact, Fantasy beat Lux himself in his OSL road. This month,Fantasy showed far more,than Luxury. Perhaps Fantasy wouldn't have beaten Jangbi,but Lux wouldn't have beaten Bisu either,and the point is,he couldn't even beat Fantasy,and don't tell me Luxury's path to the MSL championship was harder than Fanta's path to the OSL finals,and I thnik there is no player on the world right now that would have fared better against Jaedong than Fantasy did.
Lol... what about Bisu? You think Bisu had less chance than Fanta? Or what about FlaSh? Honestly I'd say that Bisu is 50-50 with JD, and Flash is 45-50 in JD's favor. While fanta would be around 40-50 with JD in a BO5. |
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| Zinbiel Sweden. April 05 2009 19:42. Posts 804 | Profile # |
On April 05 2009 19:20 verzisor wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 05 2009 19:05 Darth Peter wrote:
On April 05 2009 18:36 raga4ka wrote:
I still think Luxury should be second . He has shown better results then fantasy this past month .Even thought Fantasy was great in his semis and final , he didn't win and Luxury has the more impressive all - around performance . Fantasy should be third and from there on its enyone's spot .
Lux no way has better overall performances. In fact, Fantasy beat Lux himself in his OSL road. This month,Fantasy showed far more,than Luxury. Perhaps Fantasy wouldn't have beaten Jangbi,but Lux wouldn't have beaten Bisu either,and the point is,he couldn't even beat Fantasy,and don't tell me Luxury's path to the MSL championship was harder than Fanta's path to the OSL finals,and I thnik there is no player on the world right now that would have fared better against Jaedong than Fantasy did.
Lol... what about Bisu? You think Bisu had less chance than Fanta? Or what about FlaSh? Honestly I'd say that Bisu is 50-50 with JD, and Flash is 45-50 in JD's favor. While fanta would be around 40-50 with JD in a BO5.
To be perfectly honest, I would not give the Bisu I've seen the latest weeks a 50-50 chance against JD with TOTM in the map pool. |
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| StylishVODs Sweden. April 05 2009 20:35. Posts 4988 | Profile # |
No one would be 50-50 against jaedong atm;)
But while we're into speculating i think bisu flash and fantasy are the players that has the best chance, simply because bisu and flash are so good and fantasy is scary in bo5 if he's had time for alot of preparation using all his wierd builds. |
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| 4Servy Netherlands. April 05 2009 20:52. Posts 1498 | Profile # |
| Fantasy only wins with wierd builds tbh but that is his strenght. |
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| StylishVODs Sweden. April 05 2009 21:08. Posts 4988 | Profile # |
| Yeah, you can't really discredit him for flaws that he doesn't allow to show due to his strategychoices. |
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| captainwafflos United States. April 05 2009 21:21. Posts 212 | Profile # |
| fail: wrong thread Last edit: 2009-04-06 00:29:34 |
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| captainwafflos United States. April 05 2009 21:22. Posts 212 | Profile # |
| fail: wrong thread Last edit: 2009-04-06 00:29:44 |
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| Badjas Netherlands. April 05 2009 21:30. Posts 1613 | Profile Blog # |
| I would think Nada should be in a decent spot in the PR, with all the awe that TL showed after his performance vs JangBi. |
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| Avidkeystamper United States. April 05 2009 23:55. Posts 8551 | Profile Blog # |
On April 05 2009 19:05 Darth Peter wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 05 2009 18:36 raga4ka wrote:
I still think Luxury should be second . He has shown better results then fantasy this past month .Even thought Fantasy was great in his semis and final , he didn't win and Luxury has the more impressive all - around performance . Fantasy should be third and from there on its enyone's spot .
Lux no way has better overall performances. In fact, Fantasy beat Lux himself in his OSL road. This month,Fantasy showed far more,than Luxury. Perhaps Fantasy wouldn't have beaten Jangbi,but Lux wouldn't have beaten Bisu either,and the point is,he couldn't even beat Fantasy,and don't tell me Luxury's path to the MSL championship was harder than Fanta's path to the OSL finals,and I thnik there is no player on the world right now that would have fared better against Jaedong than Fantasy did.
Lux also beat Fantasy in the WL. Also, what's with saying Lux wouldn't have beaten Bisu? On that map pool + Lux has a winning record against Bisu? Lux can definitely take Bisu in a Bo5, besides that's speculation, we work off what actually happened. |
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| Geo.Rion Hungary. April 06 2009 00:18. Posts 5354 | Profile Blog # |
On April 03 2009 18:21 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:HI DUDES PR coming this weekend! I've got a night of drinking ahead of me and a hellacious week at work come Monday. StarCraft is, as always, my little hermit world where I retreat when I need to feel infallible. In life, I'm just a regular jackoff. In StarCraft, I'M FAKESTEVE. BOW DOWN. It should be no surprise who #1 is, in fact the top 5 seem pretty clear-cut. It's been a simple month without much in the way of ambiguous, convoluted results and gameplay. The winners are clear, the losers even clearer. Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers, it's Friday night 
this weekend?
That just finished conform the TL calendar |
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| Shikyo Finland. April 06 2009 00:52. Posts 20582 | Profile Blog # |
On April 05 2009 18:15 disciple wrote:
Bisu has no medals at all? What a convincing point, this is like not putting flash or JD on the top spot because they both won nothing in the last 3 seasons...jee. And after the first game in the Bo3 the only thing that has changed dramatically is the map they were playing on (*cough* ToTM). Skillwise Bisu is right behind JD atm and the gap between those two and all others is huge. But because the PR reflect the monthly performance Bisu should not be #2. Fantasy clearly showed better play than him, but I think it comes to FS to decide if Lux must be #3 or not.
Medal > No Medal. When there is nothing but the last stages of the starleagues going on, what else can you judge off? Bisu is on a 4-game losing streak as I already said. And yeah, I'm not putting Flash high at all. And JD actually won GOM, got second in Arena MSL, won WCG Korea and now won OSL. Your "skillwise" argument is just your opinion, it's the results that matter in the end. Jangbi / Bisu is debatable, but I value a silver more than a semifinal 0-3 in a tournament he never deserved to be in in the first place. Last edit: 2009-04-06 00:58:49 |
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 disciple Administrator April 06 2009 01:02. | Profile Blog # |
On April 06 2009 00:52 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 05 2009 18:15 disciple wrote:
Bisu has no medals at all? What a convincing point, this is like not putting flash or JD on the top spot because they both won nothing in the last 3 seasons...jee. And after the first game in the Bo3 the only thing that has changed dramatically is the map they were playing on (*cough* ToTM). Skillwise Bisu is right behind JD atm and the gap between those two and all others is huge. But because the PR reflect the monthly performance Bisu should not be #2. Fantasy clearly showed better play than him, but I think it comes to FS to decide if Lux must be #3 or not.
Medal > No Medal. When there is nothing but the last stages of the starleagues going on, what else can you judge off? Bisu is on a 4-game losing streak as I already said. And yeah, I'm not putting Flash high at all. And JD actually won GOM, got second in Arena MSL and now won OSL. Your "skillwise" argument is just your opinion, it's the results that matter in the end. Jangbi / Bisu is debatable, but I value a silver more than a semifinal 0-3.
Your arguments may be good with all the medal thing and stuff but check out previous PRs. JD was #1 even the month where he was outed in the OSL prelims. The top 3 was not always reserved for the champions, not in anyway. Hole another thing is that you try to remove Bisu from any ranking as soon as he screws up a bit. And thats what you haters do. Although Flash gets outperformed by other terrans lately like Leta or fantasy, ppl keep consider him the best player ever to play the game (Artosis) and even put Flash 50-50 vs Bisu and JD when both of them are clearly superior to him at the moment. All I can read from your posts is "remove Bisu from the PR cause I hate him so much"
Even if JD somehow manages to screw everything at the beginning of the next season, the PR's discussions would be full with the double standard posts that "thou JD is out he is the best zerg right now and the current OSL champ, he is still #3 etc etc" Last edit: 2009-04-06 01:10:39 |
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 Magic84 Russian Federation. April 06 2009 01:23. Posts 1381 | Profile # |
| Lux is the champ and can beat bisu in bo5, why would anyone claim he can't. Bisu can be third, but if fantasy is placed behind him it would be awkward, those games were beat downs. |
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| fanatacist April 06 2009 01:39. Posts 10000 | Profile Blog # |
On April 05 2009 19:20 verzisor wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 05 2009 19:05 Darth Peter wrote:
On April 05 2009 18:36 raga4ka wrote:
I still think Luxury should be second . He has shown better results then fantasy this past month .Even thought Fantasy was great in his semis and final , he didn't win and Luxury has the more impressive all - around performance . Fantasy should be third and from there on its enyone's spot .
Lux no way has better overall performances. In fact, Fantasy beat Lux himself in his OSL road. This month,Fantasy showed far more,than Luxury. Perhaps Fantasy wouldn't have beaten Jangbi,but Lux wouldn't have beaten Bisu either,and the point is,he couldn't even beat Fantasy,and don't tell me Luxury's path to the MSL championship was harder than Fanta's path to the OSL finals,and I thnik there is no player on the world right now that would have fared better against Jaedong than Fantasy did.
Lol... what about Bisu? You think Bisu had less chance than Fanta? Or what about FlaSh? Honestly I'd say that Bisu is 50-50 with JD, and Flash is 45-50 in JD's favor. While fanta would be around 40-50 with JD in a BO5.
Do they teach math where you came from?
Although I agree with you if I understood you correctly. |
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| fanatacist April 06 2009 01:43. Posts 10000 | Profile Blog # |
On April 06 2009 00:18 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 03 2009 18:21 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:HI DUDES PR coming this weekend! I've got a night of drinking ahead of me and a hellacious week at work come Monday. StarCraft is, as always, my little hermit world where I retreat when I need to feel infallible. In life, I'm just a regular jackoff. In StarCraft, I'M FAKESTEVE. BOW DOWN. It should be no surprise who #1 is, in fact the top 5 seem pretty clear-cut. It's been a simple month without much in the way of ambiguous, convoluted results and gameplay. The winners are clear, the losers even clearer. Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers, it's Friday night
this weekend? That just finished conform the TL calendar
For someone that has 90% of his posts in the PR threads I would expect you to be aware of 3 things:
1. Delays happen, usually because RL > TL.
2. It's still Sunday in America. Steve is in Thailand and I think it's just about midnight Sunday there.
3. Complaining won't give you anything. |
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| fanatacist April 06 2009 01:44. Posts 10000 | Profile Blog # |
On April 06 2009 01:23 Magic84 wrote:
Lux is the champ and can beat bisu in bo5, why would anyone claim he can't. Bisu can be third, but if fantasy is placed behind him it would be awkward, those games were beat downs.
Bisu, the same one that stood toe-to-toe with Jaedong? Please. |
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| Avidkeystamper United States. April 06 2009 01:49. Posts 8551 | Profile Blog # |
On April 06 2009 01:44 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 06 2009 01:23 Magic84 wrote:
Lux is the champ and can beat bisu in bo5, why would anyone claim he can't. Bisu can be third, but if fantasy is placed behind him it would be awkward, those games were beat downs.
Bisu, the same one that stood toe-to-toe with Jaedong? Please.
Lux has a winning record against Bisu+ on the current map pool he definitely can beat Bisu. |
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