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| animus123 United States. March 05 2009 13:22. Posts 171 | Profile # |
| ehh, 8-10 might be off, but who really cares about them anyway. The rest of the PR is fine. My inner JaeDong fan boy is content to wait until he crushes Bisu 3-0 in the OSL for #1. |
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| DoctorHelvetica United States. March 05 2009 13:27. Posts 13955 | Profile Blog # |
| CBNX Free, ZerO, sAviOr, and UpMagiC imo |
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| X_Tr3mem1sT United States. March 05 2009 13:34. Posts 4 | Profile # |
| I agree.... lol, lets not discuss about Game 5 Bisu vs JD GomTV Intel classic special match up. |
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| HaXxorIzed Australia. March 05 2009 14:07. Posts 4729 | Profile Blog # |
| Strong PR - I can't think of any real way to "Fault" it even if there might be some nitpicking at the bottom. Top3 aren't provoking any controversy and the hyvaa pick was a nice surprise - and well supported. |
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| n.DieJokes United States. March 05 2009 14:16. Posts 3272 | Profile Blog # |
| Are we not counting the end result of the "most hyped match ever"? Sure it was a crappy game but c'mon, one person walked away the victor and it was not the num.1 on the pr. |
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 FakeSteve[TPR] Valhalla. March 05 2009 15:00. Posts 17062 | Profile Blog # |
On March 05 2009 14:16 n.DieJokes wrote:
Are we not counting the end result of the "most hyped match ever"? Sure it was a crappy game but c'mon, one person walked away the victor and it was not the num.1 on the pr.
Bisu has played consistantly stronger over the duration of February. The only way Jaedong would be #1 was if he totally destroyed Bisu. The series was immensely close, and both players were stellar. Bisu has been better in the games he's played outside that series by a pretty significant margin, why on earth would Jaedong be #1 when that GOM series was as close as it was? You can't decide this shit on one best-of-five, players are more than one matchup and five games. |
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| x89titan Philippines. March 05 2009 15:03. Posts 1130 | Profile Blog # |
| wait.....no savior? or zero? |
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| Ronald_McD Canada. March 05 2009 15:24. Posts 802 | Profile Blog # |
I kinda disagree about the Bisu over Jaedong, but I guess that's a personal bias.
With a lot of the good play we've been seeing it must have been hard to choose these 10 |
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| Signet United States. March 05 2009 15:54. Posts 1664 | Profile # |
On March 05 2009 15:00 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 14:16 n.DieJokes wrote:
Are we not counting the end result of the "most hyped match ever"? Sure it was a crappy game but c'mon, one person walked away the victor and it was not the num.1 on the pr.
Bisu has played consistantly stronger over the duration of February. The only way Jaedong would be #1 was if he totally destroyed Bisu. The series was immensely close, and both players were stellar. Bisu has been better in the games he's played outside that series by a pretty significant margin, why on earth would Jaedong be #1 when that GOM series was as close as it was? You can't decide this shit on one best-of-five, players are more than one matchup and five games.
#1/2 was the part of hte PR I was most anticipating. I agree with you FakeSteve.
Bisu beat Jaedong the day before in WL. They were 3-3 over a 24 hour period. All but game 5 of the showmatch were high quality games. Bisu's choke is a mark against him. He kinda earns it back since three of the games were played on >60% ZvP maps. Call the weekend a wash. Eh, maybe slight edge Jaedong, since he did win the Bo5 series.
I don't feel like there is another player right now who could take Bisu in a Bo5. Possibly July, ever the god of ZvP. Certainly no P or T -- his play in these matchups has been devastating, almost unbeatable in anything but a fluke single game. With Jaedong, I feel like Flash could take him in a series. Possibly Hwasin or free. (really hoping for Hwasin vs Jaedong OSL semis) ZvZ is the only matchup I would just write the opponent off against Jaedong without knowing who it is.
The difference isn't their near-perfect play against each other. It's their play against the rest of progaming. It's also close enough that if Jaedong does better in OSL, he should climb to #1.
What I really like about this PR is that the differences it had with the PR I would have made... I ended up agreeing with them. For example Jangbi > Flash. Also nice catch with hyvaa's strong February. |
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 Empyrean March 05 2009 16:06. Posts 16299 | Profile Blog # |
You honestly think July has a chance of beating Bisu in a bo5? :/
Besides Jaedong, I think the only player at the moment who could stand a chance would be Jangbi, and to a lesser extent, Flash (not really on Flash, here). Anyone else remember that PvP on Destination where Jangbi's insane multitask and control sealed the win with multiple harass on different fronts? The storm drops were just devastating, and Jangbi's defense was rock solid. Bisu had nothing on Jangbi, who was in control the entire game.
That being said, Bisu for sure deserves the number one spot.
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| FakeSteve[TPR] Valhalla. March 05 2009 16:11. Posts 17062 | Profile Blog # |
On March 05 2009 15:54 Signet wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 15:00 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On March 05 2009 14:16 n.DieJokes wrote:
Are we not counting the end result of the "most hyped match ever"? Sure it was a crappy game but c'mon, one person walked away the victor and it was not the num.1 on the pr.
Bisu has played consistantly stronger over the duration of February. The only way Jaedong would be #1 was if he totally destroyed Bisu. The series was immensely close, and both players were stellar. Bisu has been better in the games he's played outside that series by a pretty significant margin, why on earth would Jaedong be #1 when that GOM series was as close as it was? You can't decide this shit on one best-of-five, players are more than one matchup and five games.
#1/2 was the part of hte PR I was most anticipating. I agree with you FakeSteve. Bisu beat Jaedong the day before in WL. They were 3-3 over a 24 hour period. All but game 5 of the showmatch were high quality games. Bisu's choke is a mark against him. He kinda earns it back since three of the games were played on >60% ZvP maps. Call the weekend a wash. Eh, maybe slight edge Jaedong, since he did win the Bo5 series. I don't feel like there is another player right now who could take Bisu in a Bo5. Possibly July, ever the god of ZvP. Certainly no P or T -- his play in these matchups has been devastating, almost unbeatable in anything but a fluke single game. With Jaedong, I feel like Flash could take him in a series. Possibly Hwasin or free. (really hoping for Hwasin vs Jaedong OSL semis) ZvZ is the only matchup I would just write the opponent off against Jaedong without knowing who it is. The difference isn't their near-perfect play against each other. It's their play against the rest of progaming. It's also close enough that if Jaedong does better in OSL, he should climb to #1. What I really like about this PR is that the differences it had with the PR I would have made... I ended up agreeing with them. For example Jangbi > Flash. Also nice catch with hyvaa's strong February.
He didn't choke, he made a bad build decision. I know he said he thought he had the game won when he saw 9pool, but you need to bring more probes. Let's be very clear here - to block the ramps on Andromeda you need two zealots and a probe, and Bisu had 'em. Yes, they were on hold position. However, watch the probe count on the overlay; a probe dies while Bisu's scout is still alive.
Most zergs wouldn't try to bust in, which is why Bisu let the probe and two zealots chill together, but Jaedong made a quick decision and executed his ling attack really well. It's still very much a luck-based thing, sometimes those two zealots will manage to stop the lings, sometimes they won't. It's a matter of pixels, not something a player has any true control over.
At any rate, Jaedong is the best ZvP player we've got, and Bisu is acceptably on par with him. He's been unstoppable on PvP and PvT lately as well, there is absolutely no reason why he would be lower than first Last edit: 2009-03-05 16:19:37 |
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| Lockon Stratos United States. March 05 2009 16:11. Posts 126 | Profile # |
| Uhhh Jangbi does not stand a chance against Bisu in a BO5, he only managed 1-3 against Bisu in both the MSL and GOM Intel Classic. The only people who has a chance are of course Jaedong, Flash, and Stork. |
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| keV. United States. March 05 2009 16:23. Posts 3127 | Profile Blog # |
On March 05 2009 00:32 ]343[ wrote:
my CBNC...
HiyA, by.hero, ZerO, free, iris?
HiyA's games have been fun as hell to watch lately. |
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| Signet United States. March 05 2009 16:27. Posts 1664 | Profile # |
On March 05 2009 16:06 Empyrean wrote:
You honestly think July has a chance of beating Bisu in a bo5? :/
I'd say July has about a 40% chance of taking a Bo5 against Bisu. Along with being one of the top two players at the matchup, July is also the kind of player who favors very aggressive hydra play, which if anything is Bisu's weakness in PvZ. |
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| FakeSteve[TPR] Valhalla. March 05 2009 16:32. Posts 17062 | Profile Blog # |
On March 05 2009 16:23 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 00:32 ]343[ wrote:
my CBNC...
HiyA, by.hero, ZerO, free, iris?
HiyA's games have been fun as hell to watch lately.
They certainly have |
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 deathgodtoss Korea (North). March 05 2009 16:54. Posts 189 | Profile # |
On March 05 2009 05:40 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Bisu - on fire, and in Bonjwa God mode
JD - probably the only person in the world that can take a bo5 from Bisu ( oh wait... )
bisu aint anywhere close to bonjwa as long as people like jaedong are there threatening to take his thrown.
savior in his prime wasn't questioned when it came to Bo5s, auto liquibet for any BoX with savior in it as long as it wasnt some super z v z expert, but even then, he did quite well during his run.
and when it comes down to results, jaedong won the bo5, bisu didnt.
oh well, this upcoming OSL will show u that bisu can't attain the bonjwa status ever as long as jaedong is on the scene, plus im hoping for flash's comeback next season. |
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 Emlary China. March 05 2009 18:51. Posts 3334 | Profile Blog # |
On March 05 2009 16:23 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 00:32 ]343[ wrote:
my CBNC...
HiyA, by.hero, ZerO, free, iris?
HiyA's games have been fun as hell to watch lately.
Hiya won 9 out of his latest 10 TvP :O The only loss was the game that Bisu went to 2BG+DT.
This Hiya guy kicked asses of 5 dragons in a month. What a TvP monster! |
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| RisingTide Australia. March 05 2009 19:12. Posts 703 | Profile # |
I'm anxiously awaiting next months PR.
I want to believe Savior will be there. |
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| strongwind United States. March 05 2009 19:34. Posts 739 | Profile # |
| wow, great PR, I actually agree with all of the picks this time around |
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| okum Austria. March 05 2009 20:36. Posts 5700 | Profile Blog # |
msl quarterfinal c spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +Okay, after his rape of Nada, I take back what I said about Jangbi
Edit: thanks to the mod who added the spoiler tag; that was careless by me.Last edit: 2009-03-05 20:50:27 |
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