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! Day[9] Podcasts E14: TvZ on Heartbreak Ridge - Page 3

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 shenlong   March 17 2009 05:30. Posts 180
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thanks dude rocking audios
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 Shikyo   Finland. March 17 2009 05:33. Posts 20126
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I have a big, huge propose for a future podcast:

Drone timing against Terran and Protoss. When do you know when you can build drones? How many drones can you build when? When should you expand? When should you build pure units even if you only have a few drones?

Things like that I'm greatly interested in, and I'd love it if you could cover most of these things. I'm positive that many others would be very interested to hear about your thoughts on this topic as well.
"I shall wait for you in death's halls, my Love (love love love love~)"
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 Kyuki   Sweden. March 17 2009 05:34. Posts 1842
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I love this stuff Day9! Thank you VERY much! :D

It both helps and is REALLY enjoyable to listen to. Please keep it up =)
Mada Mada Dane
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 HellGuardian   India. March 17 2009 06:06. Posts 14
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awesome audios....desperately needed something like these....thanks a ton... :D
Zerg4Life!
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 Navane   Netherlands. March 17 2009 06:32. Posts 2405
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How do you structure your talks? What process do you go trough, resulting in the structured talk presented to us. I find your talks amazingly well structured. I mean; my posts are always a mess. When I try to explain stuff to people, i find it hard to order my toughts. I have the feeling that I raelly get what you are trying to say. How do you do that?
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 Xeris   Iran. March 17 2009 06:53. Posts 16872
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good shit Sean I think I already told you but the requiem build worked 100% at the LAN ;P!
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 404.Delirium   United States. March 17 2009 07:00. Posts 1189
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Will you have my firstborn?

Thanks!
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
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 Zapdos_Smithh   Canada. March 17 2009 07:14. Posts 2602
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Super helpful. I find that many of the games I lose I usually have an advantage @ some point, but I just throw it away. This is great thanks!
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 gk_ender   United States. March 17 2009 08:01. Posts 694
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"You talk about end game plans, could you expand on what the "goals" of each race is in each matchup in a supposed late game scenario (basically what is the modern endgame scenario for each races in each respective macthup."
Taek Bang
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 minus_human   Romania. March 17 2009 08:14. Posts 4758
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this is really great.

btw, how the hell did you get HOP from Hallmarks of Expert Play? That's not the first acronym I would've thought of
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 PH   United States. March 17 2009 08:23. Posts 6077
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Thanks for this.

Could you do an audio on general ZvT and ZvP play? Covering like...as much as you know about each matchup? haha.

Thx!
Hello
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 KimTaeYeon   United States. March 17 2009 08:29. Posts 466
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Day[9], you make me hawt.
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 Archaic   United States. March 17 2009 08:42. Posts 4023
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Hey, would TL possibly have a different, less restricted place for the uploads?
Right now it works, but just no authorization, at: http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/zatic/
Assuming it were reuploaded into a more public area that anyone could access, you could subscribe to that URL (replacing http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/zatic/), with the new one, and you can have a podcast working straight out of iTunes.

EDIT: Ugh, I was beaten.

And of course you could do it straight through iTunes. But having an exclusive TL podcast (i.e.)
http://www.teamliquid.net/podcasts/Day[9]/...
would be delightful . It doesn't even have to be fancy, simply an open URL that link to multiple .mp3 files (I think?)
Anyone who is more well read in the matter can take over, but I'm suggesting to definitely give it a try.
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  Zyarktodt   United States. March 17 2009 08:42. Posts 67Profile Blog # 
hey can someone help me out? I can't listen to the files
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 Louder   United States. March 17 2009 13:14. Posts 2276
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Really nice work, Day. You laid the ground work for some really great discussions about advantage in general, and I hope you pursue them...

Additive power of small advantages
Cementing early game advantages in the mid game
More detail on determining at what point you can end a game from a position of advantage
Correctly assessing your degree of advantage, and knowing how far you can push it
Correctly assessing your degree of disadvantage, and appropriate responses
More detail on how to modify your end game roadmap based on advantage


You said some good stuff that I expect a lot of less experienced players will really benefit from. You're awesome.


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 SK.Testie   Canada. March 17 2009 14:08. Posts 8537
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On March 17 2009 05:33 Shikyo wrote:
I have a big, huge propose for a future podcast:

Drone timing against Terran and Protoss. When do you know when you can build drones? How many drones can you build when? When should you expand? When should you build pure units even if you only have a few drones?

Things like that I'm greatly interested in, and I'd love it if you could cover most of these things. I'm positive that many others would be very interested to hear about your thoughts on this topic as well.


This question would be pretty hard to explain as it is completely situational from the get go and it depends what you are looking to do and why you are looking to do it. Even basic and general rules have times they need to be altered.

Basically in giving an answer that would be correct most of the time you would also have to start saying, "well except in this situation or this etc..."

The best answer ever in brood war is: "It depends". It all comes down to knowing the game and knowing what you have to do and each alteration you have to make given the circumstances. There is no shortcut to knowing. It all accumulates through experience. You will never read something online and immediately put it into practice. Experience and practice.

Sadly, it sounds like completely vague bullshit. However, it's completely accurate.

While it may seem your question is specific, it really isn't. You need positions, races, opponent, and much more just to start factoring in the equation.

A very basic rule to zerg (vs terran and protoss) though is: Make as many drones as you can without getting caught or ruining the timing of your strategy. So basically maximize the amount of drones you can have vs the amount of army you need to keep you safe until you want to start taking the fight to him. In saying this very basic rule, I am wrong in many situations. But generally, it is correct. Day can't say, "build X amount of drones at this time and this time." etc. Because that would be wrong in so many places. ;p
What a cold-hearted person you are not to keep your mosquito kill count.
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 thunk   United States. March 17 2009 14:28. Posts 6233
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A lot of your talks have transcripts. I think it'd be great if you could spoiler the transcripts (and link to the original thread for the ones you have already done).

Thanks, I'll be sure to listen!

You should do a talk about guessing tech based on unit composition.
Last edit: 2009-03-17 14:29:34
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 Llamaz   Australia. March 17 2009 15:24. Posts 90
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I read somewhere else that if you get an advantage; expand. In your audio commentary you recommended following your endgame plan, which is getting defilers, THEN taking a 4th. Since you have a contain, couldn't you take a 4th earlier?

In other words, if you have an advantage, should you focus on increasing your army, or expanding, or if the answer is, "it depends...", can you give examples in which situation you would expand and in which you would not?

Thanks in advance, Llamaz.

P.S. You should consider doing pro level game analysies :S.
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 R3condite   Korea (South). March 17 2009 21:44. Posts 1541
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puree awesomeness

i wanted to know how to do a timed bunker rush vs a zerg that has gone double hatch then pool and also wat maps it is possible to do this on

thank youuuuu

much love <3
ggyo...
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 Day[9]   United States. March 17 2009 21:59. Posts 7347
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On March 17 2009 14:08 MYM.Testie wrote:
Even basic and general rules have times they need to be altered.

The best answer ever in brood war is: "It depends". It all comes down to knowing the game and knowing what you have to do and each alteration you have to make given the circumstances. There is no shortcut to knowing. It all accumulates through experience. You will never read something online and immediately put it into practice. Experience and practice.



QFT

That's why I'm always hesitant to release replays or to talk about build orders. Rather, I really like to focus on the underlying logic that forms so many "rules."

I'll definitely pop some "builds" into audios from time to time, but mainly I want to teach people how to teach themselves!

YAR!
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
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