| tobi9999 United States. August 05 2009 21:45. Posts 1212 | Profile # |
So, I've played against this with Z and used it with P a couple of times.
I find the build good, but I think it's a bit too predictable and a bit hard vs 12hatch. Since you get the zealot out late, I as zerg can see what your up too with my drone, and then before your corsair gets to my base i can have all my overlords hovering over a spore colony.
After I get enough drones to support 3 hatch hydra, the protoss can't kill me with the goon reaver push, so he takes his expo and I take my 3rd and 4th and win by having way more econ.
So my question is. What do you do if your sair DOESN'T DO ANY DAMAGE? because if the sair doesnt do damage, the early attack won't do damage,and then the push with reavers won't do any damage either. |
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 KwarK United Kingdom. August 05 2009 22:17. Posts 20488 | Profile Blog # |
| I don't get why you're advocating zealot goon zealot for D rank players against 9 pool. A D rank zerg with 8 zerglings will always beat a D rank protoss with a zealot and dragoon. Obviously your build is playable at higher levels but assuming both players are bad the protoss cannot hold his ramp vs 9 pool. |
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 Chill Canada. August 05 2009 23:47. Posts 25251 | Profile Blog # |
Don't know why this wasn't in the recommended threads. Added.
Also, do we really need Day[9] in the thread title? haha |
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| LuDwig- Italy. August 06 2009 00:19. Posts 1138 | Profile Blog # | |
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| rAnDoMZerg Israel. August 06 2009 01:10. Posts 20 | Profile # |
oh... COME ON... no Zerg... its your race man!! :D Make us gosu! make Zerg win rate 99% :D Some ZvZ&ZvT&ZvP mix with general micro macro tips mixed with some advices on advanced mechanics for Z E R G! :D
gg :'(
Thanks anyway :D you rock :D gotta play some P games to piss zergs off :D |
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| Priapus United States. August 06 2009 02:24. Posts 36 | Profile # |
I have to agree with random zerg....
Betrayal of the Swarm will not be taken lightly... |
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| 538 Hungary. August 06 2009 05:39. Posts 3775 | Profile Blog # |
On August 06 2009 02:24 Priapus wrote:
I have to agree with random zerg....
Betrayal of the Swarm will not be taken lightly...
But he will be the only one spared when the Days of the Swarm are over:-p |
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| Day[9] United States. August 06 2009 08:10. Posts 7347 | Profile Blog # |
On August 05 2009 22:17 Kwark wrote:
I don't get why you're advocating zealot goon zealot for D rank players against 9 pool. A D rank zerg with 8 zerglings will always beat a D rank protoss with a zealot and dragoon. Obviously your build is playable at higher levels but assuming both players are bad the protoss cannot hold his ramp vs 9 pool.
holding vs a 9pool is perhaps the ONLY difficult aspect of this build. since you've identified the issue, the goal is to practice it, not to avoid it.
so, if you're a player struggling to hold a 9pool, get a friend to 9pool you for 2 hours until you feel awesome with it.
that said, if the ENTIRE BUILD were really technical and difficult (such as the fantasy's vionic play) then i would steer them away to something more straightforward (like this build! :D) |
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| foeffa Belgium. August 06 2009 08:22. Posts 2056 | Profile Blog # |
| Awww a new ep finally! <3 |
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| darkmarksman Canada. August 06 2009 11:34. Posts 66 | Profile Blog # |
LOL its doing it again! It is impossible to make it clear... |
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| Nosmo Canada. August 06 2009 12:20. Posts 207 | Profile # |
Day, you could make an FPVOD of the goon/reaver build to clear up confusion among us noobs.  |
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| InToTheWannaB United States. August 06 2009 13:58. Posts 4741 | Profile # |
| thanks day great as always |
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| mysticism Canada. August 06 2009 14:09. Posts 124 | Profile # |
| keep them coming! and cast more games ur combat vs chill was too funny |
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| endGame United States. August 06 2009 14:39. Posts 394 | Profile # |
| MOAR and thank you you're awesome <3 |
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| Day[9] United States. August 06 2009 16:52. Posts 7347 | Profile Blog # |
On August 06 2009 11:34 darkmarksman wrote:LOL its doing it again! It is impossible to make it clear...
YES get rid of the damn "[G]" in the title
they're podcasts damnitLast edit: 2009-08-06 16:53:05 |
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| thunk United States. August 06 2009 17:45. Posts 6233 | Profile Blog # |
I was thinking of what to get next...I was thinking the [9] but you might be adverse to that >.<.
The [G] is probably a better choice.
If you're having trouble versus 9 pool or overpool you could pull 1 or 2 probes to help out your first zeal, shouldn't hurt you too much and helps take down those zerglings. |
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 jhNz Germany. August 06 2009 20:29. Posts 2756 | Profile Blog # |
i just tried the strat from the latest episode in a d-level game on athena. it worked pretty pretty well. it worked even with the zerg trying to break my ramp with a shitload of lings.
and i build my first zealot after starting my stargate.
the zerg wasn't that good though and the game lagged like hell. i almost lost my reaver because of that. but with a little practice this could be a powerful pvz build on certain maps.
thanks for sharing this sean! |
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| evanthebouncy! United States. August 06 2009 21:30. Posts 10736 | Profile Blog # |
Hell I'd say I'd personally LOVE to see [9] instead of [G] lol
how about [Pod]
or something...
anyways I gotta faceSmash on iccup :DLast edit: 2009-08-06 21:31:25 |
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| Afasia Finland. August 06 2009 21:34. Posts 70 | Profile # |
Sorry if I missed a mention but are there replays out anywhere? one facing 9pool and other one versus 12hatch?
Also. Say that your first push somehow gets totally annihilated, is there any real way to come back?
Ill try to skim something from repdepot just in case someone uploaded this BO with a name I can identify it. |
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| Everywhere United States. August 06 2009 21:45. Posts 97 | Profile Blog # |
On August 06 2009 20:29 jhNz wrote:
i just tried the strat from the latest episode in a d-level game on athena. it worked pretty pretty well. it worked even with the zerg trying to break my ramp with a shitload of lings.
and i build my first zealot after starting my stargate.
the zerg wasn't that good though and the game lagged like hell. i almost lost my reaver because of that. but with a little practice this could be a powerful pvz build on certain maps.
thanks for sharing this sean!
First zealot after core, not stargate. day9 corrected himself on pg 33. |
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