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So even if the pardoner can have the power to push us back a day, remember the pardoner has to use their role wisely in order not to piss off the town. There will be a lot of pressure on this role. | ||
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So even if we save one person with pardon, (If they are innocent) it's just like town missing. The pardoner fucking up to me seems like pressure could be caused, unless the pardoner is planning to die (which case they were probably mafia and just gave their team an advantage). Vivi, don't make assumptions about if the pardoner can pardon themselves. (Though if they could, that would be really stupid in my opinion). Also vivi just pardoning would be a disadvantage in general according from what I understand from your response to me. If we have to have a pardoner we need someone who is yeah, good at behavioral and clue analysis but not mafia. The later is hard to prove! This is a vets game, from what i was able to gather, there are people who are good at hiding that they are mafia. We can't make Pardoner a life or death role. We have to give it to someone who is good, but we have to watch this person carefully. Cause they might fuck us over intentionally or not (pending on if the right person has the role and if they are mafia or not). To me this role is pressured especially for town, you can't fuck up or you hurt the town. If your mafia well i guess the role is great especially if you plan to die. It just buys them time, but it also means we can double lynch =\. But yeah, you're right, we lost a day, but either case we would lose a day, it might be a sacrifice we have to make and prepare for. guarantying is hard, we just have to prepare for it cause whether the pardoner is mafia or not, once they pardon someone it is a lynch lose just like if we were to hit the wrong person. | ||
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On May 17 2009 08:38 Mynock wrote: Here's my take on the Pardoner: I believe the first lynch, which is essentially a roll of dice, can be pardoned. Unless of course, there is some solid evidence about anyone in particular, but that's rarely the case on Day1. Another idea is to make the first lynch a democratic one. If I'm voted into office and the Town agrees to this idea, I will make a separate thread where everybody can vote for the first day lynch, and I will act upon it. This eliminates those doubts L brought up. Also, there is no problem with the Pardoner pardoning a Mafia. If it's an obvious candidate and the Pardoner uses his skill, then the Town has 2 CONFIRMED Mafia. No, they won't play that move to save themselves a day. It's nothing the Town can't fix the next day with a Double Lynch, unless, how Ace already pointed out, it's towards the end of the game, but by that time, we'll know a lot more about the elected people's allegiance anyway. Also, even tho IDEALLY it's great to have a Medic and a DT in office, REALISTICALLY it won't work. You can't tell people "vote on whoever you think feels like a Medic!", it obviously won't work. Also, it's not in Town's interest to publicly discuss who could be a blue, only who's red. Obviously, the circle is narrowed down for Mafia, so we don't want to give them any hints, right? So, I can only repeat myself and Ace when I say, there is almost no difference between the two office roles. And realistically, we want able people in the office, people who can aid the Town as long as possible. Since Ace also joined the campaign, it'll be interesting to see how things turn out eventually. I'd be comfortable with either Ver or Ace in office, but personally, it's perhaps a bit harder for me to read Ver than Ace Also, where's Plexa, where's Camlito? I highly agree with him right here. He said some things that were exactly in my mind. | ||
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So the question is if someone get's pardoner should we just make the game plan for them to never use their roles power? Then the whole goal will be will to at least make sure mafia doesn't get this role, cause obviously when they decide the time is right, they will use it whether it is to screw with us and by them more time, or just save another mafia member. So i guess the question is, should the town agree that the pardoner should never use their power? | ||
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Either case, if you know 3 blues, fine great for you, but I sure as hell don't. But to me it seems like you want these blues to start running for office, when in a way now mafia might have an idea, well maybe those people who ran for office are blue, so let's focus on them. It might be the best intention for all these blues to run. But doesn't change the fact it would be good for at least 1 or 2 into the office, but then the rest (if they tried to run) may have uped their chances to look like blues and for mafia to focus on them. it's not like the medics can protect them if mafia decides to focus fire. Also I would like our blues to be more careful, we don't know who is mafia yet, but it's not good if people are figuring out who you are, especially cause of this office race. Cause we do have people who are good at figuring out roles and if they are mafia, then they will get rid of you quick. | ||
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On May 17 2009 10:18 0cz3c wrote: I would like to note that my candidacy is not one based on a power play. I am but a mere townie. If anyone else would like to claim a role in order to enhance his OR HER chance to win election, then by all mean, please feel free to do so. I, however, do not wish to tarnish my good name. So I won't lie. And isn't that doubtlessly the most important quality a town could hope for from a leader (that is to say, a mayor or pardoner)? Again, I remind everyone that I am running for mayor. I will not offer a thing; however, I encourage all to vote for me. Together, we can somehow elect me! ! I give you my support by voting someone else. | ||
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I think he is joking ;p | ||
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On May 17 2009 11:42 HeavOnEarth wrote: hey ver how do we know you're not mafia and this isn't just a ploy to make sure he doesn't get votes; so that you're ensured mayor? EASY! We don't. That is why you kinda have suspect everyone but try to work together at the same time. Maybe for the real good top vets that might change but unless you are one of them, you can never be certain. | ||
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On May 17 2009 12:23 infinity21 wrote: this is my first time playing mafia in a while.. I don't really know what's going on so I'm observing I'm pretty terrible at this game so I'm hoping to learn something Just remmember the goal in the game is to kill bloodycobbler and you should be fine. | ||
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I don't want to dwell to deep into it, cause it might cause confusion and chaos. Yeah what Nemy did is stupid, but i think it has become real distracting and let's just say someone in the mafia is trying to run in the office, well Nemy provided a good distraction imo. So let's not waste to much focus fire on him cause we already know what he did is either "Stupid" or he is a traitor/mafia. | ||
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I'm still uncertain if Nemy should have an office role, cause there might be someone better suited for the roles and possibly need it more, though I'm not 100% certain about it. Other then keeping a close on nemy I'm not sure what else to do. Nemy kinda put us in a pickle here =\. | ||
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But I definitely agree with bockit, we should focus on this election! We should also i guess consider the first lynch possibly? As far as medics go, we possibly can just focus on that after the election, we should still have plenty of time for that right? So let's look at our candidates, and try to make the best decisions. Cause yeah we could vote Nemy in, fine but that also means we can leave another important player vulnerable. So there might be a sacrifice no matter what, so pick the better of the two. Also even if you say we can just protect one with medic, but then we can still lose that player if mafia stacks hits. So just thinking "oh we protect nemy by giving him office and just use a med to protect a player who could be possibly more useful (analyzing wise)" is not good, cause mafia stacks, we lose our more skilled player. | ||
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When he first mentioned who he talked to. Either case, he has more then enough time to tamper with them. | ||
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On May 18 2009 03:10 LucasWoJ wrote: What is the malongo sense telling you? Am I at the 80% tricode was at in the beginning of last game? Again, you're clearly derailing the thread, lol. I'm going to respond to this and make you look even more retarded after the mayor's been elected. [/QUOTE] The what in who now? 80% of what? | ||
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