| Animostas United States. August 31 2010 09:52. Posts 558 | Profile Blog # |
^Yeah I've done a lot of the editing for the Bigfile MSL and sort of noticed that there's not much love for Liquipedia 1 ._.
Just a quick question, should the links to the VODs be directed to Youtube or TLDP or does it matter? |
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| Endelite Australia. September 01 2010 19:53. Posts 5 | Profile # |
Hi. I was just wondering if you were aware that you have a few blatantly incorrect pieces of information listed on Liquipedia that I could easily correct for you? ;D
The details I currently remember are the correct cooldown of Gauss Rifles after Stim Packs (Marine attack cooldown) and more accurate information on the effects of Ensnare on different units.
I have a spreadsheet that I made a year or two ago (and added additional details too), which I could modify and upload probably in a day or two (probably not going to be convenient for me tonight).
I also have recorded movement times for different units for a certain distance, which I could probably measure in map tiles (but I just had the start and finish lines marked by static science vessels or something like that, so I don't know the exact distance.) I have seen 'movement speeds' listed on another site somewhere, which I believe were correct, but I haven't noticed them here when I've looked in the past and if I can tell you the length of the map that my tests were performed on, the times may seem more relevant to users than a cryptic-sounding 'speed 22'.
I've timed some other things, such as the time it takes a worker to scout each position from different starting positions on some maps, although perfect micro-management of a worker might knock up to perhaps 1.5 seconds off the time, but they were not timed simply by simple right-clicking locations and leaving the worker to navigate all on its own (so moderate micro-managing was used, but not necessarily the 'best' scout timings.
I have what I have worked out and (many times) checked to be the correct rates of the following at normal and fastest speeds of the below list. The reasons for checking at Normal speed as well as Fastest are that
1 - 'normal speed' numbers are useful when you're used to the 'cooldown' numbers and 'build time' numbers that are actually based on normal speed
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2 - If something seems had a certain amount of attacks in the amount of time you are timing their attacks for but seems like it may have been halfway through its cooldown (or actually, anything other than perfectly timing its last attack to hit within a half second of stopping the timer), you need to be able to check it at a slower rate and over a larger period of time, to check that you're not going to call it '6 shots in 20 seconds' when it would actually have been more like '6.45 shots in 20 seconds'. Also, I tested them all many times and if something was not clearly an exact amount of hits in the allotted time, I would test for a longer duration (more like 80+ seconds).
So, some 'rates' I have discovered are:
¤ - Zerg life of regeneration rate
¤ - Protoss shield regeneration rate
¤ - Biological healing rate from medics
¤ - Mechanical unit repair rate (by SCVs, although I need to check, but this may be affected by the unit's build time and maximum hit points, rather than a standard rate for all of them)
¤ - Terran building repair rate (by SCVs, but unfortunately, I am certain that this IS based on the build time and maximum hit points of the unit, meaning it is different for every terran building, so I'll have to perform further tests to give you the full list)
¤ - Rate at which Shield Batteries restore shields to protoss units (my word, it's fast!)
¤ - Rate of Energy Replenishment (all units with energy to use for abilities; i.e. not broodlings or hallucinations which technically have energy)
¤ - Rate of Energy Diminution when Cloaking (how quickly wraith and ghosts use energy while cloaked)
¤ - Building combustion (?) rate (the rate at which terran buildings lose hit points when burning)
¤ - Rate of Illusion Diminution (the rate at which broodlings and hallucinatory duplicates lose energy)
The actual Normal and Fastest speed ability and spell durations along with examples of the exact amount of time before a unit has enough energy to cast its spell, such as the time taken for a new High Templar without the Khaydarin Amulet upgrade to get to 75 energy, the time taken for a High Templar on 0 energy to get to 75 energy and the exact time taken for Broodlings and Hallucinations to 'die' (if they somehow aren't destroyed before the time limit).
+ Actual apparent Plague damage...
Somewhere I also have the attack rates of corsairs with each number of Corrosive Acid spores(?) from 1 all the way to 9. There may be a better way, but I could only think to test it by making a UMS map, luring Devourers to hit a corsair (but being sure to only be hit the desired number of times), backing out of range and then testing the attack rate on my own units (or a flying modified CC with 0 armour and 5000+ HP for easy damage checking).
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| Julmust Sweden. September 02 2010 00:59. Posts 2159 | Profile Blog # |
| Well we would prefer it if you actually edited the pages yourself, but if you feel like you don't have the time to do it, just paste it here and I'm sure someone will get to it sooner or later |
| | <@R1CH> i don't do impractical C, sorry | |
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 Aesop Hungary. September 02 2010 04:10. Posts 10608 | Profile # |
On August 31 2010 09:52 Animostas wrote:
^Yeah I've done a lot of the editing for the Bigfile MSL and sort of noticed that there's not much love for Liquipedia 1 ._.
Just a quick question, should the links to the VODs be directed to Youtube or TLDP or does it matter?
tlpd VODs are usually a good choice, but youtube works if needed. |
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| Endelite Australia. September 02 2010 22:10. Posts 5 | Profile # |
Making a Contribution
Liquipedia is a review based wiki. Unless you are an editor, your changes will have to be approved by a staff member. Please be patient; your requests are processed as quickly as possible. Once we see you as a reliable and high quality contributor, you will be granted the right to perform edits on your own, without the need for a review.
So you see, I was under the impression that I wouldn't actually be able to add it on my own (but if in time there was more to add, I would be able to do edit independently).Last edit: 2010-09-02 22:11:01 |
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| Aesop Hungary. September 02 2010 22:56. Posts 10608 | Profile # |
On September 02 2010 22:10 Endelite wrote:
Making a Contribution
Liquipedia is a review based wiki. Unless you are an editor, your changes will have to be approved by a staff member. Please be patient; your requests are processed as quickly as possible. Once we see you as a reliable and high quality contributor, you will be granted the right to perform edits on your own, without the need for a review.
So you see, I was under the impression that I wouldn't actually be able to add it on my own (but if in time there was more to add, I would be able to do edit independently).
Sorry for that misunderstanding, I reworded it now.
We have 2 states for pages: Stable and Draft. Everytime you edit something, it becomes the "draft-version" until it's approved by an editor and turns into the "stable page". So you can of course edit something, it will display on the Draft page, but it needs review until it's finally accepted as the stable version. |
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| Zona September 02 2010 22:59. Posts 40425 | Profile Blog # |
| The stable page is the one that people see when someone browses to liquipedia, but if there's unreviewed changes a link will appear to the "draft" page on the upper right of the page. |
| | "If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon |
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 tofucake United States. September 03 2010 01:28. Posts 11392 | Profile Blog # |
| Oh, and all you dumb people making edits are getting bans as well, so please don't waste your time. |
| | kwark > i will mentor you if you wish, but i'm like the absent drunk father you never wanted | |
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| Fiel United States. September 15 2010 12:59. Posts 585 | Profile # | |
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| Julmust Sweden. September 17 2010 07:29. Posts 2159 | Profile Blog # |
| Its really easy to fix, we just do a rollback. All the previous versions of a page is saved on liquipedia so nothing is ever lost. |
| | <@R1CH> i don't do impractical C, sorry | |
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| a176 Canada. September 18 2010 20:22. Posts 5385 | Profile Blog # |
| hey guys, i did some editing on high templar, but i also noticed alot of drafts on other pages. when do you usually go about accepting drafts on the wiki? |
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| semantics September 19 2010 04:05. Posts 8553 | Profile Blog # |
On September 18 2010 20:22 a176 wrote:
hey guys, i did some editing on high templar, but i also noticed alot of drafts on other pages. when do you usually go about accepting drafts on the wiki?
probably just back logged only a few people have to go over 100's of edits. |
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| eorahil Spain. September 20 2010 06:22. Posts 2 | Profile # |
I want to contribute by translating some articles to Spanish. But I don't know how!!
could someone help me?
thanks!! |
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| Blueblister Sweden. October 05 2010 20:33. Posts 319 | Profile # |
There seems to be a lot of "draft" pages on the wiki.
I suggest we either increase the rate of reviewing (by adding reviewers or have a few especially assigned to reviewing) or reduce the number of pages flagged for review.
How frequently do admins actually check unreviewed pages?. |
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| tofucake United States. October 06 2010 00:33. Posts 11392 | Profile Blog # |
| I try to check every day, but real life issues trump Liquipedia editing. Staff will be discussing everything that needs to get done and plans and such in the upcoming meeting. |
| | kwark > i will mentor you if you wish, but i'm like the absent drunk father you never wanted | |
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| mDuo13 United States. October 20 2010 03:01. Posts 220 | Profile Blog # |
| I noticed that the Game of the Week has been taken off the front page and it's no longer getting updated. That's disappointing, because it was one of my favorite parts of the wiki. Is there a new place where games of the week are going, or is there a lack of someone to maintain it? |
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| Aesop Hungary. October 20 2010 05:30. Posts 10608 | Profile # |
On October 20 2010 03:01 mDuo13 wrote:
I noticed that the Game of the Week has been taken off the front page and it's no longer getting updated. That's disappointing, because it was one of my favorite parts of the wiki. Is there a new place where games of the week are going, or is there a lack of someone to maintain it?
Thank your for the feedback, we'll see what we can do.
In general: As with many things the main problem is that we need someone to do it. If you feel like you can provide a game of the week for your fellow viewers, we will be more than happy about it (or find someone to do it  ) |
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| PaterSin Germany. October 22 2010 00:09. Posts 301 | Profile # |
Hello TL
just a quick note I just found this site and just thought it looks a little too much and a friend and me made this it might be a little easier we especially made it to fit on one page to print  |
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| tofucake United States. October 22 2010 04:42. Posts 11392 | Profile Blog # |
The problem with your chart is that it's got no uniform format, and with all the borders it's actually quite difficult to read. Add to that the fact that all of the hotkey images used in  Hotkeys per Race are used all over the wiki (for example, every single ability, spell, unit, and building page)...well then it gets complicated. |
| | kwark > i will mentor you if you wish, but i'm like the absent drunk father you never wanted | |
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| PaterSin Germany. October 22 2010 23:16. Posts 301 | Profile # |
I do still have the original xls exel ones
but well was just an idea was worth a try |
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