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Feel free to visit #TL-ABL on quakenet if you want to talk about off-topic stuff.  RAUS June 25 2010 05:19. Posts 210 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2010 05:01 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
He got banned for basically saying "Donate money to me or I won't stream". Since then TL has worked out a policy on donations.
Show nested quote +"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for other streamers, i guess.
I can imagine a situation where this still doesn't make sense.
there exists a streamer who i find to be without worth, in personality and play, who i know has asked for donations, but i do not know the specifics of it. Because his situation could differ from Huks, and also because said streamer may have been banned as well, i chose to word it this way. I do not know whether there was an actual injustice, but I assumed that there was. I essentially "made up" the situation in my head, because i jumped to conclusions. Using "one can imagine" (a dumb phrase, i admit) was just me conceding that i did not know anything about it.
On June 25 2010 05:02 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.
Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.
thats a good point.
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 Chill Canada. June 25 2010 05:24. Posts 25251 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2010 05:19 derpaderp wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 05:01 Chill wrote:
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
He got banned for basically saying "Donate money to me or I won't stream". Since then TL has worked out a policy on donations.
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for other streamers, i guess.
I can imagine a situation where this still doesn't make sense.
there exists a streamer who i find to be without worth, in personality and play, who i know has asked for donations, but i do not know the specifics of it. Because his situation could differ from Huks, and also because said streamer may have been banned as well, i chose to word it this way. I do not know whether there was an actual injustice, but I assumed that there was. I essentially "made up" the situation in my head, because i jumped to conclusions. Using "one can imagine" (a dumb phrase, i admit) was just me conceding that i did not know anything about it.
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 05:02 Plexa wrote:
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.
Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.
thats a good point.
We can't do anything about people asking for donations on their stream. huk posted it on TL. Further, he posted it like he will stop streaming if you don't donate, which is something no one has done before.
If you want to go further into the situation there's more things that happened, but I'd like to think you'd trust the staff enough not to take wildly different actions against people without justification.
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| RAUS June 25 2010 05:29. Posts 210 | Profile Blog # |
i trust; i accept. you aren't under attack, chill, i was just thinking out loud.
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| Chill Canada. June 25 2010 07:04. Posts 25251 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Grobyc Canada. June 25 2010 10:57. Posts 16966 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2010 05:02 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.
Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.
*cough* GosI[Terran] *cough* |
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 flamewheel HANG KANG. June 25 2010 10:59. Posts 21486 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2010 10:57 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 05:02 Plexa wrote:
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.
Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.
*cough* GosI[Terran] *cough*
Haha I was just thinking that.
Plus, to be fair Idra has been tempbanned a lot before (that was second on my mind). |
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 thunk United States. June 25 2010 16:13. Posts 6233 | Profile Blog # |
| Apparently even fair mannered Nony was temp banned before. |
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| arb Noobville. June 25 2010 16:23. Posts 11082 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2010 10:59 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 10:57 Grobyc wrote:
On June 25 2010 05:02 Plexa wrote:
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.
Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.
*cough* GosI[Terran] *cough*
Haha I was just thinking that. Plus, to be fair Idra has been tempbanned a lot before (that was second on my mind).
Incontrols been temp banned quite a few times before also..
and he has what 22000 posts or something? |
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| 7mk Germany. June 25 2010 16:45. Posts 9436 | Profile Blog # |
Naniwa and Drewbie have been temp banned and are terrible posters too
seems like quite a few of the top players have been getting into trouble  |
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| J1.au Australia. June 25 2010 18:15. Posts 3533 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2010 10:57 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 05:02 Plexa wrote:
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.
Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.
*cough* GosI[Terran] *cough*
Why was he banned? Pardon my ignorance. |
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| arb Noobville. June 25 2010 18:31. Posts 11082 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2010 18:15 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 10:57 Grobyc wrote:
On June 25 2010 05:02 Plexa wrote:
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.
Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.
*cough* GosI[Terran] *cough*
Why was he banned? Pardon my ignorance.
Pretty sure he was mostly just posting like an idiot and being immature.. |
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| 7mk Germany. June 25 2010 19:37. Posts 9436 | Profile Blog # |
Artotits was just banned by Plexa.
That account was created on 2009-12-10 23:12:06. and had 54. posts.
Reason:. Pick a different user name.
Lol, pretty funny how long he lasted.
Too bad that our most beloved user "TeamLiquidIs4Gays" was banned 30 minutes after that as wellLast edit: 2010-06-25 19:38:40 |
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| aikepah United States. June 25 2010 22:16. Posts 115 | Profile # |
On June 25 2010 05:02 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.
Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.
Although I do seem to remember reading on TL that having faster internet brings you better replies 
But yea I didn't read that thread where huk posted that, but reading the quote in the ban makes me think he was just joking? He was asking for donations sure but it's not like he was being malacious about it seriously. He was saying "Please donate so I have enough money for internet so you guys can keep watching me stream!" Obviously if he doesn't have internet he can't stream And he seemed to be saying it jokingly anyways. But like I said I didn't read that thread so that quote could be out of context to me.
Also I think the artosis thread title was slightly misleading, but such is a forum. "Make a TL icon, win a TL tshirt" to me that means all I have to do is make an icon to get the tshirt, doesn't imply that I need to make a good icon and have it be chosen. "The Automated Ban List" isn't actually the automated ban list, but discussion about bans people have seen on it. So sure it was slightly misleading, it's not CONFIRMED that it's the last OSL for SC1, but it very possibly could be as hwanni said. I do think that all TL mods and admins need to take anger management classes because they seem to lash out at people that don't deserve it. Reading some of Chill's replies in this thread makes me think that. The mods I think are a big reason why TL seems unfriendly to new users. New users get yelled at by everybody and made fun of by mods when they get banned for maybe not knowing the rules. But hey, I never actually go into the 'forum' section I only access the most recent posts usually from the home page, and the rules aren't listed there so maybe a lot of new posters don't know these rules. Most of them just deserve polite warnings and not 2 day bans with a snarky comment. |
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| drag_ England. June 25 2010 22:37. Posts 425 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2010 22:16 aikepah wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 05:02 Plexa wrote:
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.
Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.
Although I do seem to remember reading on TL that having faster internet brings you better replies But yea I didn't read that thread where huk posted that, but reading the quote in the ban makes me think he was just joking? He was asking for donations sure but it's not like he was being malacious about it seriously. He was saying "Please donate so I have enough money for internet so you guys can keep watching me stream!" Obviously if he doesn't have internet he can't stream And he seemed to be saying it jokingly anyways. But like I said I didn't read that thread so that quote could be out of context to me. Also I think the artosis thread title was slightly misleading, but such is a forum. "Make a TL icon, win a TL tshirt" to me that means all I have to do is make an icon to get the tshirt, doesn't imply that I need to make a good icon and have it be chosen. "The Automated Ban List" isn't actually the automated ban list, but discussion about bans people have seen on it. So sure it was slightly misleading, it's not CONFIRMED that it's the last OSL for SC1, but it very possibly could be as hwanni said. I do think that all TL mods and admins need to take anger management classes because they seem to lash out at people that don't deserve it. Reading some of Chill's replies in this thread makes me think that. The mods I think are a big reason why TL seems unfriendly to new users. New users get yelled at by everybody and made fun of by mods when they get banned for maybe not knowing the rules. But hey, I never actually go into the 'forum' section I only access the most recent posts usually from the home page, and the rules aren't listed there so maybe a lot of new posters don't know these rules. Most of them just deserve polite warnings and not 2 day bans with a snarky comment.
Mods here are excellent, and as a new user I have a) never been mocked for being new, nor b) been made fun of by a mod. And if you fail to read the 10 commandments page, which it suggests you do when you first join in big writing, then you deserve whatever ban/mockery you get in my opinion. |
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 NonY June 25 2010 22:37. Posts 6923 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2010 16:13 thunk wrote:
Apparently even fair mannered Nony was temp banned before.
haha i self-exploded and got perm banned. and as it's sort of relevant to recent discussion, i wasnt really a top player when i made my way back on TL.net. i was like top 10 in usa but nowhere near top 10 non-korean |
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| aikepah United States. June 25 2010 22:55. Posts 115 | Profile # |
On June 25 2010 22:37 drag_ wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 22:16 aikepah wrote:
On June 25 2010 05:02 Plexa wrote:
On June 25 2010 04:58 derpaderp wrote:
I guess what i'm saying is that, the current best american protoss was almost permabanned. yeah he posted a little douchiness, but now hes kind of a great SC2 resource.
"One can imagine" is just a polite way of not expressing my disdain for some other streamers, i guess.
Lots of top players have been banned on TL before... being a top player doesn't mean you're a good poster.
Although I do seem to remember reading on TL that having faster internet brings you better replies But yea I didn't read that thread where huk posted that, but reading the quote in the ban makes me think he was just joking? He was asking for donations sure but it's not like he was being malacious about it seriously. He was saying "Please donate so I have enough money for internet so you guys can keep watching me stream!" Obviously if he doesn't have internet he can't stream And he seemed to be saying it jokingly anyways. But like I said I didn't read that thread so that quote could be out of context to me. Also I think the artosis thread title was slightly misleading, but such is a forum. "Make a TL icon, win a TL tshirt" to me that means all I have to do is make an icon to get the tshirt, doesn't imply that I need to make a good icon and have it be chosen. "The Automated Ban List" isn't actually the automated ban list, but discussion about bans people have seen on it. So sure it was slightly misleading, it's not CONFIRMED that it's the last OSL for SC1, but it very possibly could be as hwanni said. I do think that all TL mods and admins need to take anger management classes because they seem to lash out at people that don't deserve it. Reading some of Chill's replies in this thread makes me think that. The mods I think are a big reason why TL seems unfriendly to new users. New users get yelled at by everybody and made fun of by mods when they get banned for maybe not knowing the rules. But hey, I never actually go into the 'forum' section I only access the most recent posts usually from the home page, and the rules aren't listed there so maybe a lot of new posters don't know these rules. Most of them just deserve polite warnings and not 2 day bans with a snarky comment.
Mods here are excellent, and as a new user I have a) never been mocked for being new, nor b) been made fun of by a mod. And if you fail to read the 10 commandments page, which it suggests you do when you first join in big writing, then you deserve whatever ban/mockery you get in my opinion.
I'm not saying new people get mocked and made fun of just for being new, I'm saying that people treat low post count people badly like they don't know anything if they post something in the wrong section or don't post by the crazy rules in the SC2 section (Which most people don't follow the rules of that forum, which has rules that are not apart of the 10 commandments thread so most people wouldn't see it unless they actually went to the "forums" section) If say... Nony (since he just posted ) posted a one liner with a link to a super cool VOD on youtube, nobody would have a problem with it, but if joe.noobie posted something similar he would get banned with a message like "No effort" "didn't even try" |
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| hapekia Azerbaijan. June 25 2010 23:09. Posts 1 | Profile # |
Brood kind of proved my point by banning me. Any criticism the mods receive turns into an insta ban, but when artosis gets harsher critisms and he tries to defend himself HE gets banned. Really, TL mods need to chill the fuck out.
User was banned for this post. |
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| love1another United States. June 25 2010 23:16. Posts 1844 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2010 22:37 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 16:13 thunk wrote:
Apparently even fair mannered Nony was temp banned before.
haha i self-exploded and got perm banned. and as it's sort of relevant to recent discussion, i wasnt really a top player when i made my way back on TL.net. i was like top 10 in usa but nowhere near top 10 non-korean
Oh Tyler! How did you learn to keep yourself from self-exploding? I find that i'm a little premature in my exploding and would appreciate any advice you might have so that i don't get perm banned for my angry outbursts.
Would you recommend Yoga? |
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 BroOd LA. June 25 2010 23:17. Posts 10769 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2010 23:09 hapekia wrote:
Brood kind of proved my point by banning me. Any criticism the mods receive turns into an insta ban, but when artosis gets harsher critisms and he tries to defend himself HE gets banned. Really, TL mods need to chill the fuck out.
User was banned for this post.
It's a serious logical leap to assume you were banned for criticizing mods. You were banned because during your last temp ban, you made 8 accounts to spam the forums in a rage. Your account should've been banned immediately after your 30-day expired, but no one remembered.
Thanks for drawing attention to it though, you can always tell what's up when people start accusing others of having "anger management issues".
I think if you calm down and take some time off from the internet, you might get a little perspective and not get so worked up. Good luck and thanks in advance. |
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