Has anyone been watching this show? It airs on Animal Planet and follows the group known as Sea Shepherd as they try and stop Japanese whalers in the Southern Antarctic ocean.
I have to admit though I support their cause it seems like some of the crew are total dip shits when it comes to sailing.
The first mate named Peter Brown has been with Sea Shepherd since 1982 yet he doesn't understand Port from Starboard, when helping lower the Delta he caused the ship to flip over and almost the crew members could have frozen to death. During the second season he has already steered the ship into ice, whose hull isn't isn't ice proof, as well as missed the opening into open water because he refuses to look at ice charts and believes that judging by his eye, at night, is better.
Then there is the Captain, Paul Watson, who was one of the founders of Greenpeace but was kicked out due to his views in confrontation and his belief that protesting did nothing. In the first season he came up with the idea to have 2 members of the crew board a Japanese whaling ship under the guise to deliver a letter. The two members who held by the Japanese while Watson alerted the authorities and the world press that they were taken hostage, his plan worked. The 2 crew members were released all the while the plight of the whales became international news. But besides that he never really, IMO, does anything. He is almost always asleep, and runs the ship like a Jamestown scenario. When he isn't on watch or around, the first mate Peter Brown is.
This season they rammed a Japanese whaling ship in order to prevent the ship from pulling a whale on to the deck. All the while they hurl stink bombs, citric acid on to the decks. Last season's finale Paul Watson was supposedly shot but I have my suspicions.
On June 25 2009 15:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: The first mate named Peter Brown has been with Sea Shepherd since 1982 yet he doesn't understand Port from Starboard, when helping lower the Delta he caused the ship to flip over and almost the crew members could have frozen to death. During the second season he has already steered the ship into ice, whose hull isn't isn't ice proof, as well as missed the opening into open water because he refuses to look at ice charts and believes that judging by his eye, at night, is better.
He's clearly a ninja hired by the japanese to infiltrate and sabotage their ship.
edit- you dont have to quote everything, and 5 youtube videos, to make a point. mod.
I can't stand this group. They exploit peoples fond sentiments about whales and furry animals to engage in criminal behavior. They deserve no better than the pirates off the coast of Somalia for their reckless endangerment of human life.
This show is akin to terrorist funding. Part of the reason they act so outlandishly is to get the show, get money, and go out again to stir up their shit. The Sea Shepard (with Japanese whaling) and the Farley Mowat (crashing into Canadian coast guard vessels during the seal hunt) should be dealt with in the same manner they treat others.
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On June 25 2009 16:09 Bond(i2) wrote: i thought they were only attacking whalers in areas where it was illegal to hunt whales.
Yeah they attempt to intercept the Whalers in order to remind as well as uphold the 1982 UN World Charter for Nature. The Japanese claim they are doing research but since they can't waste any part of the whale they sell the meat etc. According to Sea Shepherd.
On June 25 2009 15:49 Manifesto7 wrote: I can't stand this group. They exploit peoples fond sentiments about whales and furry animals to engage in criminal behavior. They deserve no better than the pirates off the coast of Somalia for their reckless endangerment of human life.
This show is akin to terrorist funding. Part of the reason they act so outlandishly is to get the show, get money, and go out again to stir up their shit. The Sea Shepard (with Japanese whaling) and the Farley Mowat (crashing into Canadian coast guard vessels during the seal hunt) should be dealt with in the same manner they treat others.
Totally agree. I watched a couple episodes and was disgusted that this kind of crap even exists. The "Sea Shepards" are nothing more than petty pirates and deserve punishment of the law. I hate their self-righteousness and arrogance. Know it can't happen, but wish a whale would fucking just rape them.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
The Storyteller Singapore. June 25 2009 17:23. Posts 2483
This is the wrong way to go about things entirely. There has been a sustained campaign against hunting sharks, but it isn't done through piracy and a bunch of morons acting like terrorists. Since many sharks are hunted because of the enormous demand for their fins by the newly wealthy Chinese, the campaign works by educating the Chinese and encouraging them not to eat sharks' fin. And it works.
If you really want to stop whaling, then mount a PR and education campaign in Japan to try to bring people round to your point of view. These Sea Shephard dumbasses don't get my vote for sure.
ryuu_ United States. June 25 2009 17:26. Posts 1256
On June 25 2009 15:49 Manifesto7 wrote: I can't stand this group. They exploit peoples fond sentiments about whales and furry animals to engage in criminal behavior. They deserve no better than the pirates off the coast of Somalia for their reckless endangerment of human life.
This show is akin to terrorist funding. Part of the reason they act so outlandishly is to get the show, get money, and go out again to stir up their shit. The Sea Shepard (with Japanese whaling) and the Farley Mowat (crashing into Canadian coast guard vessels during the seal hunt) should be dealt with in the same manner they treat others.
Totally agree. I watched a couple episodes and was disgusted that this kind of crap even exists. The "Sea Shepards" are nothing more than petty pirates and deserve punishment of the law. I hate their self-righteousness and arrogance. Know it can't happen, but wish a whale would fucking just rape them.
On June 17th, the case was dropped and all charges revoked. Captain Watson will not have to appear in a Canadian Court in July.
In 2006, while the Canadian registered Farley Mowat was in Antarctic waters, the Canadian Registry of Shipping through the Canadian Department of Transport changed the status of the Farley Mowat from yacht to commercial vessel. When the ship reached the next port of call in Cape Town, South Africa in early March, Captain Watson was informed by the South African Marine Safety Authority (SAMSA) that he was in violation of Canadian Department of Transportation regulations for operating a commercial vessel without the proper papers.
But here is the real kicker
Three weeks later, the Farley Mowat arrived in Fremantle, Western Australia to a heroes welcome. A few months later, the ship acquired a Belize flag and left for Antarctica to hunt the whalers. Under Japanese pressure, Belize pulled the flag but not before the Farley Mowat and her crew were well on their way to the Ross Sea where for the next two months they opposed the Japanese fleet without a flag becoming in effect, a genuine pirate vessel.
Gotta give it to Watson he sure as hell knows how to play the law and tests it's limits.
It'll take a lot more than words and guns ... The hands of many must join as one, and together we'll cross the river.
Jonoman92 United States. June 26 2009 16:47. Posts 7406
On June 25 2009 16:38 esla_sol wrote: though not about whales, brad stine (comedian) has some good stuff to say about animal rights activism.
I got about half way through and couldnt finish it. One of the good things about being human is having the ability to take care of others. He says we are better than animals but enforces stooping to their level by eating/killing them. How is it being better than them if you encourage doing exactly what they do?
I'm not a vegetarian or anything, I just think this guys whole angle is very confusing.
Edit: I just noticed this video has very few views and not a high rating, so I guess there is still hope
Those terrorists should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They have no right to vandalize other people's boats because they disagree ethically with what they're doing. If I happened to be a japanese whaler trying to make a living and those assholes tried to board my boat I would straight up kill them.
2 Guys from this group came to my school and did a presentation. They pretty much just showed graphic images of what whalers do and then asked for donations. =/
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esla_sol United States. June 26 2009 19:35. Posts 714
On June 26 2009 17:30 Meta wrote: Those terrorists should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They have no right to vandalize other people's boats because they disagree ethically with what they're doing. If I happened to be a japanese whaler trying to make a living and those assholes tried to board my boat I would straight up kill them.
its a hell of thing, killin' a man...
take away all hes got, and all hes gonna have
I got about half way through and couldnt finish it. One of the good things about being human is having the ability to take care of others. He says we are better than animals but enforces stooping to their level by eating/killing them. How is it being better than them if you encourage doing exactly what they do?
I'm not a vegetarian or anything, I just think this guys whole angle is very confusing.
Edit: I just noticed this video has very few views and not a high rating, so I guess there is still hope
um, are you just trolling me or do you honestly believe he is encouraging people to kill animals.
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