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On July 06 2009 13:31 HeavOnEarth wrote: where the hell did araav come from wtf To be honest i have looked a lot into clues and I think you fit well into Mr Julia. My reasoning: There was one matter left to attend to – the destruction of the secret Liquiville Cheese recipe. The task was left to Mr Julia, a newcomer (Hi. Nub. Lawl. Ez!!) to the Mafia but nonetheless determined to carry out his orders. Mr Julia had a nack for working out combinations (see your profile) and he had cracked the safe within seconds. He wasted no time in burning the recipe with his lighter. “What are you doing!!” cried fishball, startling Mr Julia and causing him to accidentally burn himself on the recipe. fishball watched in horror and amazement as Mr Julia’s burn wound began to change colour and pulsate (google search on you returns http://www.heavenearth.co.uk/ oxygen+fire => combustion also from that page "Oxygen Supplementation - a Key to Vibrant Health".) “Look what you’ve done!” exclaimed Mr Julia who came lunging at fishball. fishball fended Mr Julia’s first few blows off, but each blow became more erratic and powerful. It wasn’t long until Mr Julia landed a punch square on fishball’s jaw, knocking him to the ground. Mr Julia pounced on fishball and eventually turned fishball into a bloody pulp. Even though fishball was dead, Mr Julia could not stop and eventually, after his body began to pulsate, he passed out. Last note to the fact that Mr Julia has a female name and the suplement is focused on women (see pictures in page). Im voting to lynch Heavonearth. | ||
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"If you want to discharge your energy on someone, do it here! There are a lot of Brutes in the Arena who can't wait to swap punches! " from http://l0lhi.mybrute.com/cellule and note your female brute with all those superpower based abilities. | ||
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On July 06 2009 15:23 HeavOnEarth wrote: also that weak google search u did wasn't even my name spelled correctly http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=heavenearth&cts=1246861326453&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10 "heavenearth" however it seems you are keeping on par with your inability to solve anything until the last night of the mafia game. Good thing you are solving this quickly. | ||
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a) Ls clue analisis is decent. b) This lynch is a gamble anyways. c) Again Ls behavioral analisis is decent. So this gamble is more likely to give us more "implied odds" in case of success. If we fail... we lynch heavonearth . For weather i think that snow is the best this time. Sunny is useless, rain too because angel protection is doubled on target, that means we get 2 people protected anyways and i really think mafia wont double their hits until they found one of their hits didnt pass. So we have fog and snow. Fog is good, it gives us -1 kp. However we wont be able to make a checklists of these lists (not too important) and we lose the chance to get a countercheck to our list of clues. I think this will be the only day when we are not in a bad position to get more clues. Next day we wil need to decrease mafia kp to assure that mbh gets back and then rain to protect him. So im voting SNOW | ||
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On July 07 2009 11:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote: First off You don't even know how rain works, and the fact your opting for more clues over less mafia KP means your an idiot. MBH has what, 20 pages of behavioural analysis to use (the kid can snipe people insanely easily off that) and your like "hey guys lets lose 5 people tonight" And didnt you learn anything last game by sucking on L's nuts? he got a green mayor killed, caused the vice to suicide, and protected a 100% mafia, and you say his shit is sane, just wow. Hey bro step back and think twice before calling me idiot. - Maybe I dont know how rain works but that calls more for a public question to Plexa: Does rain give each angel 2 targets to protect or protection is doubled on each single target? - Lets look at fog vs snow: Pros from fog: -1KP for mafia. Thats it. Now would you trade 1 more hit for 4/5 new clues for a total of 8/10 next day? Well i do now. Why? because we wont have the chance in days to come and they put us 1 day ahead in terms of clues, thats not that hard to see. Most of the good clue analisys has historically came days 3/4 when the town is death for inactivity so i think its a good call also thinking that MBH will be here to call the extra clues. The tradeback is one more hit from the mafia not really big deal. - Yeah i love Ls nuts... Hey wait you lied, last game I was even betting 10 dollars L was mafia. Mmm why would do you lie about that, whos the idiot? Townies vote Snow today, trust me we wont be able to do this other day. | ||
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On July 08 2009 04:51 L wrote: I haven't actually done the math on 2 priests with 2 seperate protections each. I was operating under the assumption that they could only protect 2 targets. The KP difference is probably close to .5 or .6 net difference, but the real gem in voting rain would be access to the vote lists tonight. The problem is that we need to organize the current vote in order to maximize the information we're getting and the current vote is tight. I doubt people will want to switch around. I think you are wrong. The real gem is that every hit protected gives the angel a person to trust and mafia has to guess if they were blocked or they hit an angel themselves. With 5 hits and 4 protections is we need just 1 block to make it win/win and even in worst case we may be forcing mafia to stack hits. Rain is far better then fog. | ||
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On July 09 2009 14:32 Ver wrote: Where's the enthusiasm and activity LOL coming from a suicide mayor. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + The Laughter: Caller and So no fek were returning from their night class on nautical warfare, but knowing there were Mafia about they decided to take the back route to their home. While walking through the last and only park on their journey home they heard a strange but faint laughter. A twig behind them snapped. They panicked- Caller turned and ran as fast as he could, while So no fek was petrified and could not move. The Mafioso stepped forward and ensured that So no fek would no longer be able to move. As he was running, Caller heard the laughter again, but more clearer. He looked up into the trees and a curiously clothed man glided down from the tree, but stumbled on the landing and fell over. To Callers’s surprise he burst out laughing. Not willing to take a chance, Caller backed away but his leg got caught in a trap and was hoisted into the air helpless. The Mafioso stood up walked over to Caller and tied his hands up with a bomb. Standing just outside of the blastzone, the Mafioso and Caller stared into each other’s eyes as Caller’s death was literally counting down. The blast destroyed Caller. The morning rooster crowed, and both Mafioso knew that So no fek still had to be dealt with. Upon checking his wallet they established his ironic death by making So no fek sink in the harbour. YDGs profile: "The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mignon_McLaughlin Note that her quotes are quite ironic. | ||
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On July 10 2009 16:01 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: so in this idea, YDG would be a pledge they were trying to sacrifice instead of truthbringer? Yes. The main reason behind this is the way the voting went under L/BCs candidates. Im very suspicious of BCs behaviour this game since he has made some really bad calls in my book (like switching at last time from his "lynch-list" to lynch MBH// fighting L and me because i supported him// Only 2 real emperor campaigns// truthbringers vote// random very bad clues// switching from araav to ydgs to lynch// calling for this double lynch without saying a word// other bad calls). However i dont have the guts to call to lynch him yet as if he is town sided we would be losing 2 DLs. | ||
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Summary: Vote RAIN please. | ||
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On July 10 2009 17:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote: changing both my votes first one on kuja900 second on inertinept BC you called to lynch YDG yesterday making a fairly good behavioral analysis. Today we have 2 people lynched and i pinned him down to a fairly convincig clue. Isnt YDG mafia anymore or im missing something? | ||
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On July 11 2009 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Malongo, your linking to ydg is so stretched for the mafia you linked to over others linked for it. And at this point foolishness has said, Mafia is almost guarenteed to be hiding in the inactive players. Inertinept links semi well, and is inactive. He also stated earlier he just wanted to troll over being useful. I would say off people for that. As for kuja, he links to multiple clues over days, so seems semi safe to kill as he also is inactive. Ecomania is a good choice as well. That was not what I asked you BC stop dodging. You called YDG to be mafia remember? What happens now? you dont think he is mafia anymore? And you call that shit about inerpinept a clue? Townies please read the thread. Please look at the clues our "good clue analist" has provided. The only good clue analysis you made was vx70GTOJudgexv -> BERSERKER -> Rage, hate. And guess what: he was our priest!! Not just that: he posted that the same fucking day the clue came! If you are not mafia you are helping the mafia too much period. Im tired of this: Why is BC mafia? 1- Im sure there was a mafia running for the office. Im pretty sure thats the best thing you can do with the GF why?? Why were you SOOOO interested in getting checked? yeah... I remember reading in the thread that pyrri asked if it was good or not for the GF to run. The answer is simple: Yes. The only important thing you can do with the GF is to break avoc in the office. Obviously with checkable emperor the first thing that would happen is that the emperor is going to get checked. Why wasnt mafia that much afraid of losing GF? Because it has replacement. For them GF is just like another mafia. Now remember L? yeah that guy that you called a moron and was working for the town? Yeah: L: "PRETTY SURE ONE OF THE RUNNERS IS MAFIA". Ehm. L is dead. HEEEELLLLOOOOO!!!! 2- Your CLUES SUCK ASS. Look at that about Pyrri looking for 3:14 and those videos. Look at that shit about inerpinept. You have done nothing 0 shit to help the town with your clues. Inert->petrified? inept->???? that is bullshit man that is not a clue that is missleading really i dont understand how people can buy that. More important than that YOU ARE THE LEADER OF THE TOWN YET HAVE PROPOSED AND VOTED FOR ABOUT 10 Different people: araav?? ydg?? pyrrhuloxia?? Kuja? Inertinept?? I have never seen a WORST OFFICE IN TERMS OF LEADERSHIP. 3- Look at all the people that has MADE THE CONECTION IN 1: THEY ARE DEAD. So no fek, L whos next? malongo? so no fek: + Show Spoiler + Another thing to consider would be the "if mafia ran for Emperor, who would it be?". Four people ran (think JeeJee ran jokingly, but never followed up past his post), MBH, L, BC, and HeavOnEarth. MBH is a (dead) confirmed townie. HeavOnEarth pulled out of the race, and supported BC. BC won and became Emperor. L lost. Truthbringer was the first to vote for BC, with no reasoning. He also supported ydg's lynching, not sure off the top of my head if he posted his reasons. L was the one that did the analysis of TruthBringer, which led to us lynching a mafia. At the moment, I personally think that if any of the candidates was mafia, BC would be the strongest suspect, which would put is in a tough situation. The only real evidence against him (if you look at it in a negative light - it could also be positive if it works), is killing MBH. If he's mafia, he gets rid of one of the best players for two days, and gets a decent chance to snipe the priest before MBH is resurrected, and thus out of the game for good. However, it shouldn't be seen in an entirely negative light, because if the plan works, MBH can hopefully guide us. If BC turns red, HeavOnEarth could potentially be mafia. The entirety of his campaign was a bit iffy, such as him bowing out and immediately supporting BC, when he himself stated that it was likely the Godfather was among all the candidates. However, that's not to say he is mafia, and much like BC's case, it's all speculation at this point. He abstained from the lynch vote, which doesn't really help the town, but it doesn't hurt it either. One thing to consider is that ydg could still be mafia, though I personally think he's innocent. If he eventually does flip mafia, then most of the suspicions on BC would be lifted. I suppose we can't entirely dismiss L from being mafia at this point, however, I'd say the chance is less than 5% (had to do it). The only way L could be mafia is if it was a mafia ploy to get us trusting him, and then maybe have blues send their roles and all. Which would only really be an option if MBH doesn't get resurrected. People can still choose to form circles, but a mass list of who is who is dangerous, when there is even any doubt of the person's alignment. Another reason L isn't entirely dismissed is the Gosu message. It's possible the message was coincidental, but I think more likely than not, our enemy is toying with us. Such as saying "we're better than you - we can waste a full night's kills and still win the game". In BC's game, L also managed to get away with a lot as mafia (Ver is godfather). However, I think that putting one of your own up on the chopping block AND playing alphabet soup would be pushing it too far. I'm not saying that any of the candidates are mafia, however, if any of them are, I'd say L is the safest bet for being a townie. Dont get fooled townies Lynch BC TODAY HE HAS TROLLED ALL THE GAME And vote Rain too. Thanks. | ||
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On July 11 2009 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Malongo, your linking to ydg is so stretched for the mafia you linked to over others linked for it. And at this point foolishness has said, Mafia is almost guarenteed to be hiding in the inactive players. Inertinept links semi well, and is inactive. He also stated earlier he just wanted to troll over being useful. I would say off people for that. As for kuja, he links to multiple clues over days, so seems semi safe to kill as he also is inactive. Ecomania is a good choice as well. This is why you are mafia BC. Exactly this: please read with me this paragraph as im not the original writer: + Show Spoiler + YDG Why he is Mafia. So, we come down to the last bit of game. I have opted for a different approach this game than normal. The town leadership although “won” by me will be directly placed on MBH when he revives, why you ask? Because he is confimed townie. As such I have gone out of my way to get reactions out of players, and observe how they react/were acting before said post. YDG is the most prominent of these people. Now we will analyze why On July 03 2009 03:03 ydg wrote: Can we repeatedly vote for the same weather options? Like snow/snow/snow/snow/snow? And the weather takes effect the night and the next day, right, so if we voted for fog that means that tomorrow's vote checks wouldn't show pledges? Anyways I'm stuck between snow and rain. Day 1 clues are always weak because they're mostly red herrings so more clues would be nice, but with a KP of 5 and only 30 townies, mafia needs 5 days to win, so it might be a good idea to limit their KP until we can kill some mafia and lower it that way. On July 03 2009 03:18 ydg wrote: I wouldn't say that rain is useless, especially early game. Early game, mafia can either hit blindly, try to snipe, or take out people talking a lot. It's easier to block hits if they do the last two, which usually happens early game. Hitting blindly isn't going to help them that much. Regardless, I voted for snow. Oh and got my role. On July 03 2009 03:21 ydg wrote: Wait. "The option with the most votes will be announced during the lynching and the weather will change immediately." Vote for fog. I assume lynching for day 1 means the election, so we do fog during the election, since you can't even list check mayor voting lists, and we have them lose some hits for the night. And then tomorrow we change the fog to snow and they can list check. Unless there is no weather for tonight. Look at these time stamps people, within the span of 20ish minutes, he has argues snow/rain/fog. Saying he voted for snow, then asking people to vote fog. You wonder why is this an issue, well that’s a good point. See, common mafia tactic is to appear to be active, as this is, even appear to be helpful which it does, HOWEVER, by constant flipflopping and not enforcing one idealogy off sound reasoning, we instead have someone trying to create chaos and disruption. We move on. On July 03 2009 05:12 ydg wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 05:00 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: I think Snow will actually not be that helpful this early because getting twice as many Day 1 clues is probably not going to be that helpful. We don't know how Plexa is doing clues either... KP is... holy fuck 5! So I guess that means at least 5 clues per day post and Snow probably doubles that? Maybe Snow just adds a constant number or multiplies the clue number by less than 2, who knows... OK nvm, we wouldn't get more Day 1 clues but Day 2 clues so this could be pretty helpful. Not necessarily, since Plexa could do clues where only a few mafia have clues linked to them each day. But I agree, until we know how clues are, if they're tidbits from the mafia's profile/whatever else and expressed through traits such as physical traits, tendency to use a weapon, or what not, or if the tidbits are just shown in the scene. Or if Plexa draws heavily on a theme or if he picks from this and that, we don't know yet. Wait a second He just advocated voting fog, now we are back to saying snow is useful for day 1, and tries to once again express this is a good idea. Constant try to keep conversation on a bad bad idea, he even ignores the fact that fog will lower KP, when 5 is insanely high for such a low player game. On July 03 2009 10:12 ydg wrote: I disagree with spamming fog, but I agree that fog should be used day one. List checking is one of the most effective tools, and, as pledges can only be found via list checks, if we spam fog, we will have no sure way of hitting pledge as opposed to hitting regular mafia. Here he doesn’t like the fog option repeatedly as he doesn’t believe we can hit pledges without list checks (fog has been deemed smartest choice overall by player base for day 1) Once again he wants us to let mafia have highest KP possible. On July 05 2009 15:18 ydg wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2009 14:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ydg as he tends to go inactive for alot of a game in most games (sorry bud but inactives kill the game) I'd post more but it seems like there's not much to discuss now? Tbh I only go inactive when I'm mafia lol. I'd clue analyze but it's only day 1. I like to wait until at least day 2 to start looking at it. On July 05 2009 15:25 ydg wrote: Okay assuming Plexa is going with mafia have their own eccentricities and quirks and their own traits, here are a few weird things I found... Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 21:44 Plexa wrote: "were strung up on lines like a human clothes line." "He saw two men; one tall and lanky, the other carrying an explosive device." "he heard gun load, he felt the cold of the barrel up against the back of his neck." "You will all pay for what you have done to me”. So so far only two characters have been mentioned, "tall and lanky" and "Mr. Explosive." I THINK that the person who killed Plexa was another person, perhaps a stealthy person (like a ninja, why is there always a ninja). Also, the "strung up on lines like a human clothes line" is VERY strange, what a weird way to phrase an odd scene. And of course, the note. But, being day 1, I can't think much of these except a preliminary outline of how clues will be? He mentions how he doesn’t like to clue analyze day 1(very intelligent I will give) then proceeds to CLUE ANALYZE, only after I called him out, WHY would you start doing something you said you don’t like doing when that reason was acceptable, instead he tries his best to be on the side of the town, but hes trying to hard all too fast as the next message will show. On July 05 2009 15:39 ydg wrote: Btw, 8/8 Mafia alive. (Current killing power = 5) 1/1 Suicide Bomner alive. 1/1 Godfather alive. so, 6 non-Godfather, non-Bomber mafia. With fog... 6 pledges, 1 non, 1 god => 3/2+1/2+1=3 total hits 5/2/1=>5/4+1+1=13/4=3.25=4 total hits 4/3/1=>1+3/2+1=7/2=3.5=4 total hits 3/4/1=>3/4+2+1=15/4=3.75=4 total hits 2/5/1=>1/2+5/2+1=4 total hits 1/6/1=>1/4+3+1=4.25=5 total hits So not bad for reducing KP by 1. I guess we can always figure out a way to get pledges without the voting list check. This bit of math has basically been covered at least once by this point, I will even quote it (check timestamps) On July 03 2009 08:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Pyrr that has to be at least 4 pledges 3 reg pledges + 1 for suicide bomber. (it says one pledge is a suicide bomber ie should count as a pledge). Otherwise the KP of 5 is way to high for day 1. 38 players - 8 red = 30/5= 6 days needed to kill us (provided no lynches used) If we lynch townies incorrectly it drops even lower. So fog should drop the KP of the mafia by 1 or possibly 2 to even it out. It also gives us an idea of how many pledges in the game there are. As for your equation all mafia give .5 cept for gf. so mafia looks to have a starting KP of 4.5 rounded up. so math should be as followed. say 2 pledges total 3.5 - (.5 x 2/2) =3 then 3 + 1(gf kp) mafia has 4 kp. the only way their KP isnt lowered is if there is exactly 1 pledge. So we have a rehashed equation in more depth that tells us basically what we already know (the detail is useless as the result is the same as I had already mentioned). He is rehashing old info, even making it look prettier to slide under the radar. On July 06 2009 02:37 ydg wrote: Actively reading the thread? More like coming in randomly to catch up, and seeing how there's nothing happening and so not saying anything. What, do you want me to say something stupid. like sup, every time I come to the thread? But it's okay, I understand your position, you don't have any legit suspects so you pick on people who you say will be inactive. And if you actually did any research into me, you'll realize that I almost always vote even if I don't post in the thread, and this is construed as inactive how? Whatever. Non-voters: L inertinept clasic kuja rebirth scamp Looking at the high number of abstains, I'd say it's unlikely that either of the two candidates are mafia. On July 06 2009 02:48 ydg wrote: Oh and what the hell do you mean I sat back doing nothing? Go back and read the thread maybe, like on page 1 or 2 maybe and, OH MY GOD I ACTUALLY POSTED QUITE A BIT in fact, I was the one who SUGGESTED we do fog first??? Whatever. Once we get mafia down to 4 kp (not due to weather), if the priest role claims publically and all angels protect the priest, and we vote rain every day, mafia will have no way of killing the priest. And, as the ability travels between people, we get more and more confirmed townies. And if mafia decides to role claim priest, the real priest should speak up, but I guess then there will have to be some trust in deciding who the real priest is. Two posts very close to eachother (time difference obvious in time to write the messages pretty well). Both are directly attributed to me calling him out. Then moving onto another list of people to look at (look they didn’t vote). Then, he wants us to concentrate on finding the priest is, ok that’s not to bad of an idea…..wait, he wants to keep using priests ability to get confirmed townies in the works… Does he not realize that’s useless. Unless we get perfect lynches going for awhile (or assassin hits) mafia can wipe us out in 6 days, we won’t have the time to swap the priest role for that list, as the game wont last that long. On July 06 2009 09:27 ydg wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2009 07:48 Lenwe wrote: There was one matter left to attend to – the destruction of the secret Liquiville Cheese recipe. The task was left to Mr Julia, a newcomer to the Mafia but nonetheless determined to carry out his orders. Mr Julia had a nack for working out combinations and he had cracked the safe within seconds. He wasted no time in burning the recipe with his lighter. “What are you doing!!” cried fishball, startling Mr Julia and causing him to accidentally burn himself on the recipe. fishball watched in horror and amazement as Mr Julia’s burn wound began to change colour and pulsate. “Look what you’ve done!” exclaimed Mr Julia who came lunging at fishball. fishball fended Mr Julia’s first few blows off, but each blow became more erratic and powerful. It wasn’t long until Mr Julia landed a punch square on fishball’s jaw, knocking him to the ground. Mr Julia pounced on fishball and eventually turned fishball into a bloody pulp. Even though fishball was dead, Mr Julia could not stop and eventually, after his body began to pulsate, he passed out. Four Mafia had entered, but only three had returned to the exit. All three of them instantly knew what had happened to Mr Julia and rushed over to the safe room to bring him back home. vivi57 was the last security guard on duty and was know well aware that the place had been hit by the Mafia. He was hiding around a corner, near the safe room, hoping the Mafia would leave him be. However, the instant the 3 Mafia passed the corner he was struck down by a large faintly warm object. He fell to the ground dazed and confused, but could make out 3 fuzzy shapes leaving with some kind of psychedelic object draped over one of their backs. The three Mafia noted that he was still alive and opened fire on vivi57 – the sheer intensity of the bullets severed vivi57’s body in two. Quite a lot is revealed about Mr. Julia. He is new to the mafia (a first time player?). He is a safe cracking expert and, I might be mistaken, but I believe there could be something wrong with his body, considering his reaction to getting burned and him passing out when kicking his victim. As all three other members instantly knew what had happened, I think this is a clue as well. The Mr. Julia thing may be a nod towards the pledge-ness of the mafioso member. Or it may be that Mr. Julia is an inept person who burned himself and then couldn't control his rage. he added very little information to a brief summary of a mafia member, again, appears to be more useful than he is actually being, subtle mafia trick. On July 06 2009 09:33 ydg wrote: Show nested quote + The team of two got to work right away sabotaging the Cheese factory. As one sprinkled fox glove seeds all over the cheese, the tall lanky one kept vigilant in case security was alerted. Elemenope had been alerted to their activities moments ago upon hearing the prolonged roar which had come from the control tower, which then prompted him to look outside his window which overlooked the entire factory. As a security guard for the factory, he knew it was his responsibility to protect the exports at all cost. He launched himself out of the window towards the two saboteurs in hopes to catch them by surprise. However the lanky one was well aware of what was going on. A simple sidestep was enough to have Elemenope come crashing to the floor, immediately the other Mafioso tied him up and strapped a bomb to his chest. No one was able to help Elemenope before the timer ran out. Two men were rummaging around in a room nearby, where exactly he could not tell. The sounds came closer and closer and very soon they were in the same room as him. He saw two men; one tall and lanky, the other carrying an explosive device. Their plan became immediate to him, they were going to blow his palace up with him inside. The two began setting the device while Plexa buried himself in his hiding place. side by side comparisons of the only two people we can pinpoint as the exact same from day 1. Aside from explosions and tall guy, anything else stand out? EDIT: "The two began setting the device" vs "As one sprinkled fox glove seeds all over the cheese, the tall lanky one kept vigilant in case security was alerted." so they both require some sort of preparation or some sort of planning. Might be insignificant. Makes mention to similarities of people that L had already made in his huge post on why to kill Truthbringer. Again he is rehashing information given in an attempt to be “active and useful”. But its not real use, its rehashing information. On July 06 2009 13:29 ydg wrote: @foxglove seeds, if you do a simple google search, you see that they are poisonous, which may either be a byproduct of the script or a key indication of the mafioso. But, unless Plexa is some sort of botanist or whatever that works with poisonous foxglove seeds (I've never heard of them before), how does he get foxglove seeds as a weapon o_O. Remember, Plexa goes (probably) from INFO->CLUE and so we need to see what links TO foxglove seeds and not what foxgloves seeds links to. How is Plexa going to go from "The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all" to foxglove? When someone shows me this connection, I'll vote Araav. But for now, it seems that the people who are adamantly trying to get him lynched are very suspicious. Also, clues tend to NOT be many things from a person's profile, but a few select details (from my experience, Plexa may be doing it differently) that are heavily emphasized. Thus the vx70GTOJudgexv is very weak, imo, because why would he be connected to so many different things? The main points of Mr Julia are probably the noobiness (ineptness->inertinept lol), this weird pulsating thing, and this rage, which, like I said before, may be because of the greenness of the character. All in all, I'd say L's analysis seems the most logical to me. Instantly dismisses Araav, who was a very good link (only person who really links to flowers in this case). The vx70GTOJudgexv clues are weak as he stated and meant to be such, his reaction was needed for behavioural analysis. However, YDG defends both Araav, and Judge almost as soon as he sees my analysis. But wait, he said he likes giving his own analysis way up above as of day 2, but he doesn’t provide any of his own, instead he says L’s is sound and logical. He still doesn’t contribute anything sound, but does give a link to inertinept that’s weak as hell. On July 06 2009 13:31 ydg wrote: Also, isn't it interesting how quick Pyrrh is to support BC's (weak) clue analysis, just as how quick he was to support his platform? and the attack finally begins. He attacks me personally based on someone supporting me instantly, although Pyrr disagrees with my analysis of judge seen On July 06 2009 13:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On the entusman thing: entusman to enterman seems highly unlikely to me. Also, So No Fek has "entusman" in his profile, too. There are even more Entus fans, I'm sure. Also, with the Truthbringer thing. If L's analysis is correct, that's way too many clues for one Day post, especially without Snow in active. Could be that only one is intentional, but I can't imagine Plexa thinking that 5 separate links to the same guy in one post on Day 2 makes sense. I mean I did something like that, but it was a novice game and it was Day 5 or so. Still, more links increase the odds and that's a lot of links. Oh shit, that was before YDG’s attack. As well as pyrr supporting L, but wait, he can’t support us both? In closing people, we have someone who is seemingly being active, while not actively contributing anything useful, and just rehashing information given by other players, but by quoting larger posts, he can appear to be helping. Remember he A) advocated that people opt for snow (he said he voted for it) to begin with, then opted for fog after others were set on it after arguments by L myself and others. B) he stayed relatively useless, then as soon as he was called out, he makes a valid reason of why he was inactive that any player would normally accept, then goes and breaks that reason to post shoddy analysis, and then rehash more information already given C) He wants us to locate the priest. We don’t need to know the priest as the only job they have is hiding till their resurrect is done. And finding the priest out only helps mafia, it means we would have to go rain (giving mafia 5 KP) to stop the bomber, and then they stack kills and kill priest anyway or force meds elsewhere to take out other targets while sniping the priest before his powers swap. Untop of that he wants to use the priest over and over to get a group of confirmed townies when a game won’t last more than 2 full uses most likely. The logic is faulty and surprisingly people overlook it. D) rehashes more information, then as soon as specific people are targeted from analysis, one solid one not, he opts to defend both of them. WHY, judge already had a reason given by me to get a reaction, but YDG gave us even more, why defend someone with a weak connection that no one would lynch him on? To protect one of his own. He also defends Araav who has a good connection to him, and also someone who has been inactive a large chunk of the game. E) attacks me for having a supporter who is someone actually supporting multiple peoples analysis. These are all major things mafia do to sidetrack the town. YDG obviously wants you to suspect me, as killing me off would remove the double lynches from the town. He also wants top KP for mafia, and a priest found. If you need more information than this to kill him, we won’t last long at all. The writer called all people to lynch YDG yesterday. He tried as far as he could to lynch him over Truthbringer. Now that we have a double lynch the writer just refuses to even look at ydg as mafia. Weird isnt it? Even more: ydg seems to be content to follow this guy and last day he gave as a fact that he was getting lynched. I really dont want to think about YDG for now but the writer. Do you know who wrote this? (HINT: YOU DID) A little more: lets look at my clue analysis about ydg: i go to his profile and found this quote: "The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next." Google search says: Mignon McLaughlin. And on Wiki we found that most of her quotes are ironic or satiric. I say this guy can be the laughter in the park that killed a townie under an ironic death. He laughts even at his own fall from the tree. Not even to note the park->skate: that would be sketchy. Now i look at Plexas clue about the priest: vx70GTOJudgexv`s profile has the word BERSERKER. Google search returns wiki page on the guys full of rage and hate. The priest channeled all his rage and hate to resurrec MBH. (You know this clue pretty well you used it to link judge to Julia almost casually forgetting that the rage and hate clue was for our priest). Now come to me with a straight face like a man and tell me Malongo, your linking to ydg is so stretched for the mafia you linked to over others linked for it.. You cant. Its plain and simple: its exactly the same logic process from Plexa. Note that im not even sure if YDG is mafia or not. However im pretty sure you are not being consistant. You werent consistant after you killed MBH (the plan was to lynch inactives remember?) Yet you came on your own and lynched him without arguing or discussing with anyone. You werent consistant when you called to lynch araav and then switched to ydg right after L came on truthbringer and then forgot about araav without saying a word. You werent consistant when you asked the mystics to check you and contact you inmediately. You werent consistant when you called for a Double Lynch out of nowhere, when there are no sure targets and as you can see for the voting: the town is broken into pieces. You werent consistant when you started making clue analysis: inertinept is mafia (in your book) because he left so no fek petrified (inert) and then he couldnt move to save himself (inept) because that is a stretched clue, note that petrified is supposed to mean paralized but not inert (as so no fek died later). The more incredible thing is that you have linked clues to at least 10 people yet none seems as solid as your analyisis on the priest. You werent consistant even from start: when you called to spam fog when the numbers of pledges were unknown, having the posibility of 4 protections. (has mafia stacked a hit?). You are not consistant at all BloodyC0bbler and for good experienced players this means only one thing: You Are Mafia. | ||
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