 zuqbu Germany. June 30 2009 16:14. Posts 320 | Profile |
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 zatic Germany. June 30 2009 16:18. Posts 2813 | Profile Blog |
On June 30 2009 16:03 VIB wrote:
What are your thoughts on exploring strategies with queens + sunkens + creep drop offensively? Maybe for mid game contains ala neo medusa?
And does the queen still have that evolve thingy where you pay to make them stronger? Is it worth it?
I tried several sunken / creep combinations. Cliffing with sunkens and creep works pretty well against protoss. I don't see the queen offensively though.
but yeah, with creep you set up strong contains in no time. Generally it's advisable to creep drop anywhere where you would expect a fight to happen as your units are so much faster on creep.
Yes the queen can be evolved to get new spells, namely the razorblade swarm, which is like a controllable insect swarm that does continuous damage to units under it. It was Hive tech though so I didn't really have the chance to test it against drops for example. |
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 liquorice United States. June 30 2009 17:05. Posts 168 | Profile |
dammit blizzard.
great writeup though. |
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 miseiler United States. June 30 2009 17:20. Posts 927 | Profile Blog |
| Thank you so much! This review has me a great deal more optimistic than I was, which was not at all. |
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 stet_tcl Greece. June 30 2009 17:38. Posts 108 | Profile |
Great read zatic, its very informative.. Thank you very much!
I think the most pressing issue that needs to be addressed right now is the unit response latency... |
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| SiGurD Korea (South). June 30 2009 18:03. Posts 413 | Profile |
Cologne, love that place really nice!
nice written by the way!(btw) . |
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 Jenia6109 Russian Federation. June 30 2009 18:09. Posts 430 | Profile |
| Zatic, what can u say about abilities of Disruptor, HT, Mothership, Ghost, Raven, Infestor and Overseer except that abilities that we have already seen in videos? |
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 Konni Germany. June 30 2009 18:19. Posts 2678 | Profile Blog |
Autosurround is fine, but your lings attacking another target than the one you picked is not ok. That's like you said, your units don't do what you told them to.
Other than that I really liked what you described. Great writeup! |
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| zatic Germany. June 30 2009 18:30. Posts 2813 | Profile Blog |
On June 30 2009 18:09 Jenia6109 wrote:
Zatic, what can u say about abilities of Disruptor, HT, Mothership, Ghost, Raven, Infestor and Overseer except that abilities that we have already seen in videos?
Ok so:
Disruptor/Nullifier
Great unit, force field is awesome to play and to watch. With ranged units, especially colossus they become very powerful.
HT:
All depends on how powerful the psi storm is as it has been changed a lot over the builds. It should not be too strong though because smart casting will make the HT too cheap then.
Mothership:
As mentioned, nothing really special, you won't see games decided by this. It's so slow you have to warp (50) to get anywhere and then you can cast at most 1 vortex, which is essentially a stasis.
Ghost
could become a staple unit for Terran. EMP is amazing against Protoss, as they can't dodge it anymore. whether or not nuke is viable depends on how quickly it's available and how much it costs. Right now you could definitely get nukes off, but usually your opponent has enough time to withdraw everything.
Raven
Very good unit, the auto turret is annoying as hell for zerg. I tried the defensive drone but it doesn't do too much from what I can tell. On tier3 stationary defense are not as powerful anyway.
Infester
Soso unit. The neural parasite is good for capital targets but not a real game changer. It didn't have plague in the build I played but a fungal infection or something that turns an enemy unit into a baneling. This takes a couple of seconds though so you have time to move away from the infected unit. |
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| Vex Ireland. June 30 2009 19:23. Posts 454 | Profile Blog |
| how bout we just 'understand' the game when it comes out, instead of analysing it over and over and over every time 1 fukken thing changes. |
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| ryuu_ United States. June 30 2009 19:27. Posts 771 | Profile Blog |
| thanks for the great article |
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 FlyingDJ Germany. June 30 2009 19:35. Posts 66 | Profile |
| Hellions didn't seem so useless in the latest gameplay video, even though fights were staged and not very realistic (30 banelings?). Doesn't surprise me that some Terran units seem to be of little use considering they have so many. But well, it's not like the build was final and Broodwar also has its share of rarely used units (Scout/Devourer/Queen etc.) |
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| Jenia6109 Russian Federation. June 30 2009 19:44. Posts 430 | Profile | |
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 adelarge June 30 2009 19:49. Posts 285 | Profile |
On June 30 2009 19:35 FlyingDJ wrote:
Hellions didn't seem so useless in the latest gameplay video, even though fights were staged and not very realistic (30 banelings?). Doesn't surprise me that some Terran units seem to be of little use considering they have so many. But well, it's not like the build was final and Broodwar also has its share of rarely used units (Scout/Devourer/Queen etc.)
What? Terran has only 13 units, both Zerg and Protoss has 15 in SC2. |
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 StorrZerg United States. June 30 2009 20:50. Posts 3837 | Profile Blog |
On June 30 2009 19:49 adelarge wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 19:35 FlyingDJ wrote:
Hellions didn't seem so useless in the latest gameplay video, even though fights were staged and not very realistic (30 banelings?). Doesn't surprise me that some Terran units seem to be of little use considering they have so many. But well, it's not like the build was final and Broodwar also has its share of rarely used units (Scout/Devourer/Queen etc.)
What? Terran has only 13 units, both Zerg and Protoss has 15 in SC2.
its ok terran just seems to be going bio any ways |
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| Cyrox Sweden. June 30 2009 21:00. Posts 42 | Profile |
Auto-surround style sounds really bad, but Blizzard will fix it. I belive in Blizzard!
EDIT: Also worth to mention; I played a build at last Dreamhack Winter and as zatic says, it really feels like BW and are tons of fun even with all the things that need additional balancing!Last edit: 2009-06-30 21:03:47 |
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| thelawenforcer June 30 2009 21:35. Posts 4 | Profile |
the biggest sad thing for me is that protoss vs terran wont look as epic anymore  |
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jhNz Germany. June 30 2009 17:15. Posts 1785
