Power Rank 06/02/2007 - Page 17
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 25 2007 11:15 Jathin wrote: From may;You're going to be terribly disappointed. GoRush won't even be a consideration for #1. It's hard to argue that he'll even be top 4-5 when you have Bisu/Savior/Stork/Hwasin still competing. True, Savior lost to FBH. But that doesn't mean he played poorly. A very well-played loss is worth more than a poorly played victory. Mirror matches also don't mean much (TvT is the most skill-based mirror mu). 1:0 Shine 1:0 Savior 2:0 Sea 0:1 Nada 3:0 July 0:1 Darkelf ok, not too great; but the way each game is being played has to be taken into consideration... 1 may be alittle tooo high atm.. but if he stomps bisu then ! and if he doesnt... well its bisu ffs! About savior; if he loses to iris as well, then he should drop from 2 imo.. i think he should drop anyway (to atmost 3) because although he played well vs FBH, he still lost, and played like crap against iris.. hopefully we see an improvement | ||
zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Nada has been doing terrible, so it might as well be a nobody. Shine and Darkelf, okay, but not impressive. Sea, a bit better. Savior was playing as terran, and while he didn't look like a complete slouch, that has to be taken into account. That leaves the sweep of July as the only set of games where he was facing top caliber competition (July certainly had been playing well). I've watched nearly all those games, and unless he pulled something crazy off against Sea, none of them really made me go "wow." I was surprised he swept July, but July didn't look like he had been looking in at least one of those games (memory is a bit foggy). Compare to this to Firebathero who has trashed pretty much every Terran and Savior (in a best of 5 at that). Even if GoRush stomped Bisu, unless Firebathero nosedives in his next MSL matchup in spectacular fashion, I'd almost be inclined to rate FBH ahead of GoRush anyways. I have the feeling FBH has a legit shot at winning MSL (even if he hasn't really played any good Protoss). GoRush? Eh... not so much. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 26 2007 21:07 zer0das wrote: Ok fair call...Let's see... Nada has been doing terrible, so it might as well be a nobody. Shine and Darkelf, okay, but not impressive. Sea, a bit better. Savior was playing as terran, and while he didn't look like a complete slouch, that has to be taken into account. That leaves the sweep of July as the only set of games where he was facing top caliber competition (July certainly had been playing well). I've watched nearly all those games, and unless he pulled something crazy off against Sea, none of them really made me go "wow." I was surprised he swept July, but July didn't look like he had been looking in at least one of those games (memory is a bit foggy). Compare to this to Firebathero who has trashed pretty much every Terran and Savior (in a best of 5 at that). Even if GoRush stomped Bisu, unless Firebathero nosedives in his next MSL matchup in spectacular fashion, I'd almost be inclined to rate FBH ahead of GoRush anyways. I have the feeling FBH has a legit shot at winning MSL (even if he hasn't really played any good Protoss). GoRush? Eh... not so much. FBH probably does deserve it more; he is looking very very good.. but that being said; i dont think he can take stork imo But then again, this is Power Rank not KeSPA, so if you're playing well; and look in good shape you can still get on this list | ||
boghat
United States2109 Posts
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hhkx
Canada757 Posts
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InRaged
1047 Posts
On June 27 2007 18:36 hhkx wrote: damn, i hope savior doesn't drop too much on the next PR.. Yeah. And who should be placed over him? The first 3 places won't change at least till the next PR. The closest player to the 1-2 places is Stork and to be worth of them he should win one of the two starleagues. And that won't happen in this month | ||
knyttym
United States5797 Posts
Bisu and sAviOr obviously will stay near top if not at the top. Stork played well in wildcard and crushed 910 so he is staying up there as well. Oov, rA, Sea and July are going to drop off. rA and Sea have a strong proleague record but are not in either league. rA has the best chance of staying in but doesn' have a high chance. predictions Bisu sAviOr Stork Gorush Reach Firebathero Hwasin By.Flash GGPlay Iris | ||
SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
EDIT - I mean... come on!!! What's Bisu done better than Stork this month? Maybe not lose to a series vs Savior.. But Stork lost that series, then tore a new asshole to everyone in WildCards, came back, raped 910, and now sits strong for the MSL. Stork also went through KTF Protoss Line up Reach/Ra. That is pretty impressive considering they are both good PvP'ers, especially Ra. In OSL, he rapes, period. End. Only GGPlay can stop him now. PL - HELLO!?!!?! Case dismissed. O, and Thank YOUUUUUUUU OVERSKY!!!! | ||
Organ
Russian Federation987 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
LOL I'm Jinxing it. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
We had 4 players who were in the quarters of OSL and MSL:
So we get a list of quarters participated / quarters won which looks like this:
My thoughts on the next ranking: #1 Beyond any doubt Stork must be #1 in the next PR. He is the only player in the semis of both Starleagues and he also has a sick Proleague record. Did I mention that Samsung sent him out for ace matches five times and that he won them all? That's right. Doesn't matter that he lost vs Savior at first, he redeemed himself by raping everyone in the Wildcard round and then dismantled 910 like the newbie he is. #2 This is where it gets hard already, because we have several worthy contenders. Because Samsung is on a roll and FBH is the first player to beat Savior in a Starleague TvZ bo5 series and he also is 8-1 in Proleague (!) I will put FBH on #2. That being said I don't like the guy at all. #3 Bisu. He lost one in OSL quarters 0-2 to marine cheeses, which isn't enough to drop him a lot, since he won in MSL quarters vs Hwasin and managed to start winning in Proleague, going from a former 0-5 record to 5-5 now. #4 Savior. Yeah, he's out of both Starleagues, but he looked strong and having to play ZvT on Monty is... well... gay. Flash, GGPlay, Iris and Gorush must be in it as well, too lazy to think about their appropriate ranks right now though. | ||
HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
Right now though, in terms of pure Form Stork is looking with good cjances to take both Starleagues. Yes, he has to get through FBH, but I'd go with Stork's PvT over FBH's TvP (same with Flash vs Stork in an OSL final). Gorush and GGplay are defiantly obstacles ... but Stork's been there and taken down Gorush in high stakes PvZ, at least. He can beat them if he faces them, there's no doubt about that. | ||
Jathin
United States3505 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
As for Stork #1 don't forget his Wildcard games, where he looked incredibly strong. Not to mention that if players look similarly strong in the Starleagues (which is true for Bisu and Stork) then you have to take into account their Proleague results, which easily secures Stork in spot #1. Like I said he won 5 ace matches for his team this season.. | ||
boghat
United States2109 Posts
I don't see why some of you don't give Flash more credit. He excuted two PERFECT cheeses against the number 1 power ranker and dismantled him. The cheeses weren't even close games whatsoever. Flash simply rolled the fuck over Bisu. Flash has also proved he is plenty competent in longer TvP games as well so I don't think the fact that he chose to win with 'cheese' should hurt him that much. He should probably be in the top 5 I'd say. What is he 14-2 now in his career losing only to Boxer and Savior? I mean come on now, that's scary. | ||
~chut~
France1317 Posts
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DJEtterStyle
United States2766 Posts
On June 29 2007 08:09 boghat wrote: I don't see why some of you don't give Flash more credit. He excuted two PERFECT cheeses against the number 1 power ranker and dismantled him. The cheeses weren't even close games whatsoever. Flash simply rolled the fuck over Bisu. I don't see why you guys don't give Every)P(TT more credit. He executed these perfect cheeses against both Yellow and Midas. Seriously, the games weren't even close. TT just rolled the fuck over them. ... Your argument is retarded, and cheese isn't a good way to impress someone who's trying to judge your skill. Added: I'm going on a road trip this weekend; the new PR probably won't be up until the 3rd. | ||
boghat
United States2109 Posts
On June 29 2007 08:21 DJEtterStyle wrote: I don't see why you guys don't give Every)P(TT more credit. He executed these perfect cheeses against both Yellow and Midas. Seriously, the games weren't even close. TT just rolled the fuck over them. ... Your argument is retarded, and cheese isn't a good way to impress someone who's trying to judge your skill. TT has pissed me off in the past because he cheeses so much but I never didn't give him credit for being good at successfully cheesing. I've never seen those two games you mention so I don't know if TT should be given as much credit as I think Flash deserves. For example I remember hearing that Midas just made a really bad build order for TT's rush and it was a bonehead move from him. But the big difference here is TT did those cheeses in preliminary leagues whereas this is the OSL RO8. I don't see why TT has much relevance in this discussion though. Flash successfully cheesed the #1 power ranked Bisu two games in a row in the RO8 in the OSL. That is pretty impressive to me. If you aren't impressed by this though then there's always the fact that he went 7-1 in June as well as 4-1 in the OSL, 6-1 in the Proleague, and 14-2 overall. Clearly he's been building up to getting a spot on the power rank the past couple months and the 2-0 of Bisu is the icing on the cake. | ||
Jathin
United States3505 Posts
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