On March 17 2017 03:41 polgas wrote:
Get Out with 8.3 in imdb. Neat. I'll keep a look out for this.
Get Out with 8.3 in imdb. Neat. I'll keep a look out for this.
It was also rocking a 100 on RT for a while, until a troll reviewer ruined that.
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WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
March 16 2017 19:32 GMT
#7721
On March 17 2017 03:41 polgas wrote: Get Out with 8.3 in imdb. Neat. I'll keep a look out for this. It was also rocking a 100 on RT for a while, until a troll reviewer ruined that. | ||
[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
March 19 2017 14:39 GMT
#7722
On March 05 2017 14:51 WarSame wrote: Get Out was amazing. We spent an hour discussing it afterwards and were still realizing new things. + Show Spoiler + I'm almost certain Jared was hypnotized. Was Rose? +1. It really conveys the feeling of unease when you're the only person of color in a sea of white people who you don't totally trust. And in this film, have good reason not to, it turns out. Jordan Peele has a nice career ahead of him, this is early days for him yet. | ||
WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
March 19 2017 18:06 GMT
#7723
On March 19 2017 23:39 [[Starlight]] wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2017 14:51 WarSame wrote: Get Out was amazing. We spent an hour discussing it afterwards and were still realizing new things. + Show Spoiler + I'm almost certain Jared was hypnotized. Was Rose? +1. It really conveys the feeling of unease when you're the only person of color in a sea of white people who you don't totally trust. And in this film, have good reason not to, it turns out. Jordan Peele has a nice career ahead of him, this is early days for him yet. I'm white, but it was a great eye-opener in that regard. You see that sort of thing but you don't really pick up on it, or notice how weird it is until it's made explicit like this. My girlfriend, my friend and I went to see it, and they're Indian and Tamil, so I was pretty much full of questions about whether it was really like that after the movie. Their answers did not fill me with faith in my fellow people. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17046 Posts
March 27 2017 15:18 GMT
#7724
Life I love first contact movies. I love sci-fi thrillers. After a rather disappointing Arrival we get this... I did not even eat my popcorn or drink my soda during this movie - let this be the testament to how good this is. It ticked all the right boxes for me. I have a feeling that this year will be full of great movies, after Logan we get this to kick it off real hard. It'll be nice comparing it to the Alien: Covenant when it comes out. | ||
Zambrah
United States6831 Posts
March 31 2017 03:49 GMT
#7725
Ghost in the Shell Movie plot spoilers and the like. Beware. + Show Spoiler + So, a western adaptation of a much-beloved anime series. Let me start this off by confessing that I was never into the Ghost in the Shell anime. It was always on at 2AM on Adult Swim and what I saw of it was really disjointed, and often involved those annoying-voiced-Tachi-fucking-koma. So I'm not super into Ghost in the Shell, I'm not super knowledgable about it, and I only vaguely care to go back and kinda watch through the important stuff in the show. With that out of the way, heres my thoughts on Ghost in the Shell The movie starts out with 'ol Major getting her cybernetic body, it looks great, the movie is good looking, the CGI is solid for the most part, the city as seen throughout the movie is pretty cool, the floating hologram-ads are badass and the world seems, well, cool. Not fully fleshed out, not necessarily real feeling through most of the movie, but it's pretty cool and you get the VIBE of it. You get the point. The first 20 minutes to 1/3 of the movie, the Major kind of irritated the hell out of me. I dunno if it was the dialogue itself, or Scarlet Johansson's performance, but Major really came off as an edgy, stoned-faced-sarcastic, teenaged, existential whiner. I'm not sure if the point was to make her feel semi-emotionless, or to make her bitter, or what, but it came off in an irritating way. I imagine they were going for "shes a machine so shes like, stone faced" but they didn't really accomplish that, it's a fine idea but it just didnt portray well, the weird-sarcastic-self-harmy kinda thing she has just feels edgy. I think it could have been played off well, highlighting the dysfunction shes perceiving between her mind and her body and all of that (and the movie WILL REPEAT THIS AD NAUSEUM AT YOU) sadly I don't think it was done well, and the only reason I really got the point that she was that THEY REPEAT THE WORDS GHOST AND SHELL FREQUENTLY, AND EXPLAIN WHAT THEY MEAN, AND YEAH I FUCKING GET IT, GHOST = MIND/SOUL, SHELL = BODY. I DIDNT NEED THE EXPLANATION. I GET IT. The movie is really kind of blunt with it's main idea, I think this is partly because it doesn't really do much to explore it in any real capacity until the latter half of the movie (and the movie gets better as it goes on.) The later scenes where the Major meets her mother and they kind of work that weird personal angle was kind of interesting, it's interjecting some actual humanity into the movie's point. The "villain" is solid with regards to the movie's central idea, Kuze is pretty interesting. Hes kind of... weird? He wants to kill the scientists who made him like Major, but want to kill him, and I'm not reaaaally sure I buy it, I think hes just a wee bit crazy? He also mentions uploading his ghost into a network and living on through that, I think thats a more interesting, tangible goal than the weird Frankenstein's monster thing he had going on (the network thing is kind of in passing and not really a focal point, despite the idea of a fully digital consciousness being pretty intriguing and relevant to the philosophy the movie wants to drive home.) Overall though, Kuze is a solid illustration of the kind of frayed mental state left from the transition from human to machine and brain to data, his character has the kind of appreciation for a purity of consciousness that I feel like Major was lacking through the first part of the movie. Now, another key part of the movie (at least during the early part of it) is the notion that the Major isn't really human anymore, and that shes kind of "othered" herself through her transformation into a fully robotic shell. I think this is a cool point, and I think this is where casting Scarlet Johansson should have been a pay off. So yeah, I can't talk about this movie without talking about the whole race thing. I didnt strictly have a problem with casting Scarlet Johansson as a japanese character, the digital-japanese-ification thing is a little weird, but I didnt actually notice it much so I dunno. That being said, I wish they had just used a fucking japanese actress BECAUSE THIS MOVIE IS WEIRDLY DIVERSE FOR BEING SET IN FUCKIN' JAPAN. Asia is a super homogeneous place, and yet there are black people, white people, asian people, and for some reason most of the important roles in this ARE PLAYED BY WHITE PEOPLE. Its weird! I didnt like it! This would have been a FANTASTIC opportunity to have a fully Japanese cast (save Kuze and Major) because part of Major not feeling like she shares what the people around her have (memories/purity of consciousness/humanity/wtfever) would have been FANTASTICALLY easy to visually hint at by using the extreme homogeny of Asian society to single out the two fuckin' people in the movie who are in full-robot-bodies rather than just Deus Ex-enhanced cyber parts on a human body. Kuze is white, Johannson is white, the visual distinctness from the people around them, and the connection between them would have been a great way to keep the movie feeling like its really Japan and while also driving home the visual point of "MAJOR IS DIFFERENT." The Chief is a TOTAL BADASS in this movie, he speaks exclusively japanese for some fucking reason (I liked it though, I actually wish more of the movie was just in japanese to kinda keep with the "MAJOR IS DIFFERENT" thing, just have them switch to english when they talk to certain characters, and then japanese with every other conversation. Would've felt more considered.) Theres so much to play with with regards to race in this movie, Asian countries are considered highly homogeneous and are often considered "robot-like" to the west (and this movie is played for a western audience, and believe me you fuckin' FEEL it.) You have an entire japanese society with all of these cultural associations already built into it for western audiences and you dont do shit with it! The idea of the homogeneous mass of "real humans" alongside the white-lady-"not real human"-Major would have made for some cool interplay, shes still a fuckin' Japanese person in the movie, but shes got a fabricated body, she can look white and be japanese and play to that dissonance between body and mind. But they never take the opportunity to play that up, so I'm bitter. TL:DR too many black and white people. The latter part of the movie is where is started to get kinda good, Major meets Kuze, they kinda come to an understanding about their mutual disdain for their impure-consciousness and Major lets Kuze go and she goes on her little solo-stint from Section 9. My favorite scene in this movie is the Major getting her memories back and going to the home she had before getting her brain put into a robot-body. She meets her mother, it's very personal and it's got this heart-wrenching weirdness that this sad old asian mother is talking to her now-white-robot-probably-daughter. Major discovering her previous identity offers a bit more of a character building set for the Major, whereas in the beginning shes kind of emotionless and irritating, she really becomes a more likeable character in the latter half of the movie. I suppose whats shes really missing in the movie's eyes aren't really "memories" or "humanity" but "identity," I know these are abstract concepts, and they all kind of tie into one another, but I feel like they don't particularly establish that humanity is about identity, or that identity is about memories, they kind of hint that its about a certain "human consciousness" but it's such a broad multifacted idea that its kind of hard to understand what they're attributing to human consciousness, it kind of seems like they attribute lots of things to it and I never quite got a concrete idea that the movie knew what it was thinking or what it wanted us to think, or even if it DID want us to think. Also, the action isn't great one scene is ACTIVELY hell to watch, its a bunch of people with fucking tazers zapping SUPER brightly in the dark, so its lots of quick bright flashes and it really hurts the eyes to watch. Can't even tell whats happening during the fight sequence. The movie is at it's best, in my humble (re:crappy) opinion, when it's not being an action movie. If the movie would let the Major be just an apathetic-robot with general rumblings about her consciousness and let that build through Kuze, I think they'd accomplish more with Major as a character. Like, I'm still kind of thinking about the nature of what the movie considers human via the lense of that scene with the Major and her mother and I just find it interesting, it's an engaging scene, the weird dissonance between white-girl with really-asian-mom just kind of FEELS right for the scene, it's kind of awkward to think to yourself, "shit, thats Scarlet Johannson's mom... they look SO different, but Major IS japanese," its that kind of feels-wrong-but-feels-right sort of situations that I think this movie could have capitalized on more. BTW, I don't approve of Batou's casting, ALSO he has his fucking eyes in for a fair amount of the movie, and they get damaged IN AN EXPLOSION SOMEHOW, fuck that was weird and shoehorned in and I HATED IT. I mean the actor did a fine job, but he just doesnt look right, doesnt sound right, a gruff japanese dude would've been way better for that role. You know what other casting parts I fucking hated? The real main villain, main-dude at Hanka Robotics, Captain Evil White Guy, WHY WAS HE WHITE? Hanka Robotics is just FILLED with fucking white people and I cannot begin to understand why. Is this an American or European corporation? I don't get it, maybe if the movie wasn't overall so diverse it wouldn't feel so weird that almost EVERY relevant character was white, Batou, Major, Ouelet, Dailin, Cutter, THEYRE ALL WHITE AND I DONT QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY. Make everyone japanese, make them speak japanese and I seriously think you're arriving at a more coherent movie, at the very least it'll visually cohere, because seeing all these white people, black people, asian people in fuckin Japan just feels weird, every random person who is important is white, theres a scene where Kuze hijacks some random fucks off the street and THEY HAPPEN TO BE WHITE? This is Japan god dammit, please make it feel like Japan, they're not even TRYING to make it feel like "well it could kinda be anywhere," the fuckin' Geisha scene at the start is ABSURDLY japanese, they're obviously intending to highlight the fact that the movie is in Japan and yet they seem to make every casting decision to suggest they're living in fuckin' futuristic US of A! Man, that movie was a mixed bag. I'll give it a 6/10 because it had no Tachikoma (god I hate their lil voices in the damn anime), and I'm WILLING TO BET that they plan to put those into the sequel, which I'm also willing to bet they aren't going to make. The movie is worth a watch, I can imagine people hating this movie, I can imagine them liking it a fair amount, it's worth it to give it a watch yourself and come to your own conclusions. I'm not a writer, I don't make stories, I'm a visual artist, so I kinda went in with that lens mind, so you might enjoy it, but it DOES have problems. Feels like they tried to really make a Hollywood Blockbuster out of it, and it feels like almost noone along the way questioned many/any of the decisions they were making that lead to it feeling like a Hollywood Blockbuster. | ||
Broetchenholer
Germany1821 Posts
April 01 2017 21:32 GMT
#7726
+ Show Spoiler + Why the heck does that film end that way? I thought Jack told Ian to get his life together, not be a wannabe gangster and lowlife after they escaped from the pub. Then he got shot and the film ends on Jack walking out. I probably should have understood what the telivision said about the race in the background but i did not understand it. Did he win? Did he lose? Why is that a satisfying ending? | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
April 01 2017 23:06 GMT
#7727
The Thing One of the horror classics, i have never seen the movie before though. Watched it yesterday and because my expectations were rather high i was kinda disappointed. I enjoyed the practical effects, i enjoyed the general direction of the plot + Show Spoiler + nobody knows who is infected, etc. It was good, but nothign more. Just to make it clear: No i don't like new horror movies full of jump scares. 7.5/10 | ||
ETisME
12082 Posts
April 04 2017 11:05 GMT
#7728
Coming from Hong Kong and some of the scenes look familiar with lots and lots of CGI covering. The plot was imo pretty solid, the edit that they did was interesting but too straight forward. I actually liked they chose Scarlett Johanson now that I watched the whole thing. The music and sound effects are both great, nothing to complain about. Liked a lot of the visual as well if not too much sometimes. Imo the biggest problem of the movie just fell short in terms of pacing. The original movie is slow, long and even feel draggy at times, with lots of scenery shots of the cyber city. But it's consistent and makes you grow a liking to it. The movie tried but failed to cover that, and it makes the viewing experience a bit uncomfortable. That being said, not bad at all but probably forgettable. I would recommend this if you want to know what ghost in the shell is about and can't stand the pacing of the original movie A solid 7/10 | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6321 Posts
April 04 2017 12:39 GMT
#7729
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ETisME
12082 Posts
April 05 2017 01:02 GMT
#7730
On April 04 2017 21:39 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Will u recommend ghost in the sell for a viewer that literally have no clue what it is about and just want to watch a good action movie ? i dont care about comic changes or plot changes,or what it is the original There are some action scenes but they aren't very long and with plenty of CGI. But I think you would enjoy the movie with the sci fi actions. | ||
Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
April 05 2017 05:36 GMT
#7731
I've watched the original anime and movies at least 5 times over. Favorite anime of all time period. This movie spat in all that is holy and they butchered the story so badly its unrecognizable. Don't waste your money watching this movie outside the good CG effects. 3/10. That being said, if you have no clue to the original series, go ahead and watch the movie. It can be good on it's own right. | ||
nikki24
2 Posts
April 05 2017 06:09 GMT
#7732
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nukem1
324 Posts
April 17 2017 11:34 GMT
#7733
I assume it was made more for an Asian audience because the names were changed and it had this ninja/kung fu vibe, will probably see it in the next expansion or something. It looked ok but a bit strange, maybe this is the remastered version? Overall it was fine, curious if anyone else saw it. Pedro Pascal is genuinely becoming one of my favourite actors. | ||
polgas
Canada1719 Posts
April 17 2017 22:48 GMT
#7734
Hell or High Water - very good thriller/action set in a small town in Texas. The movie does a great job with the cinematography, the characters and the script. They immerse you in the story of the bank robbers and the rangers trying to stop them. Jeff Bridges and his partner are great and so is Ben Foster and Chris Pine. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51324 Posts
April 18 2017 12:08 GMT
#7735
Saw this on Friday with bunch of mates, standard Fast and Furious really, was great for me as a lover of the franchise anyway, was very different to previous ones in terms of how the story played out...however was very fun for me still! Box office ratings around the world show that it is the highest grossing film of all time on opening weekend!!! Beating Star Wars and many other greats which is quite outstanding really for an 8th installment in a franchise which saw its main character tragically killed in real life! TL;DR Solid action flick for all ages, even though in some places it was rather "dark" and aggressive. 8/10 | ||
fluidrone
France1478 Posts
April 18 2017 19:41 GMT
#7736
On January 31 2017 01:28 FiWiFaKi wrote: La La Land Obviously it's been nominated for a lot of stuff (14 Oscars actually, tied for a record most with Titanic + one other film), so I'm sure most of you have heard about. But it's an absolutely fantastic movie, possibly the best musical every written. If you're a logic/rational kind of person and not too into the genre, try this movie, you might really like it. By far the best movie I've seen in 2016, well worthy of every award it's receiving, a solid 9.75/10. It'll make you feel emotions you didn't even know you've had. It made to like and appreciate music that I've always disliked, it now brings tear to my eyes whenever I hear one particular song. My girlfriend had an "emotional reaction" for maybe 2 hours more after the movie ended. Of importance is make sure you're watching it in good quality, and not at 240p on the internet. Some beautiful audio and visuals that really add to the experience, as it's not a story-driven movie. Try to set no expectations and do no research about anything about the movie if you're going to watch it, and just forget everything I told you about the movie just now, I just said it to get you to watch it. Agreed (mostly on "don't prepare for it, that's an excellent way to go see any movie i would say, but particularly this type of "scripts") i really liked entering the movie, i mean really <3 job the rest is chill smart and i liked it quite a bit (i was watching it in a movie house with my wife and i admit that helps a lot) Don't get me wrong i like the movie but that is in the face of mostly products and very few actual movies (works of art).. it is good and most movies these days are sh it! products that are barely good for one watching and on a 30° screen at home and after having had sex) .. most shouldn't even qualify as movies (again) just products! lalalaland is not a product, it is a good musical and yes it is of 2015/17 i mean it is "current" (most good musicals date 20 to 30 years) but i wouldn't say it is "genius", being good in this day and age seems already difficult to pull off so .. it was a good movie and i was really into it all through to the end and then.. .. the ending let me down (and i do mean the last minute or 2. + Show Spoiler + That seems like the only place where/when the studio/whoever might have pushed the author to do as "they" thought and ruined it for me! not really ruined the rest, just pissed me off! i think those two minutes "sending people home" were made sub par by producer/studio/whoever dumb f ck that ruined what i can imagine would have been a great ending if the author had not been forced/made to do an upper ending i could be wrong, but the rest of the movie is so well done i think i'm right. ps: i don't give grades to movies .. mmm because it seems weird, i would have to put 100 other movies with their own grade for you to make sense of any individual one grade .. no? what i can say is musicals i feel are really hard to pull off in 2017, and that would inflate my grading, but since i'm a hard ass on grades it wouldn't really be seen | ||
anthonypedro366
Indonesia1 Post
April 18 2017 22:54 GMT
#7737
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ETisME
12082 Posts
April 23 2017 15:01 GMT
#7738
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4384088/ 9/10 Violent, dark movies nowadays are always done extremely well from Korea, so this Japanese movie originally did not catch my eyes at all. That is until the trailer music hit. Ryuichi Sakamoto is my favorite movie composer ever, even more than Hans Zimmer. Then I notice this wasn't just another Japanese movie, it has quite a few big names in there with a story that is loosely based on the real life murder case. Asia (In particular Japan) has imo the most obedient society in the entire planet. The low volume of conversation, the cleanness and tidiness, the silence in train. It comes from a very high sense of awareness of any action they do will have what impact to the surroundings. In a sense, it also means it is incredibly difficult to change anything, because everyone doesn't want to disturb this balance. Protests are seen as pointless and selfish for example. The movie title, Rage, is a lot about the anger towards yourself because you feel powerless to do anything to change the circumstances. If you went in expecting a murder suspense movie, you would be disappointed. The movie has little to do with solving crime, it's a movie about human nature, how weak and vulnerable it is and this is what the Japaneses are best at. this is one of the best Japanese movie in recent 10 years for me personally. Everything is very polished and done well. The director even tried to play with camera angle to toy with your expectations which is extremely well-done. + Show Spoiler + the scene in the garden where the camera spent a long time on the US guy's back, it makes you wonder when is the help coming or else why spent the time slowly panning up Highly recommended. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
April 28 2017 13:09 GMT
#7739
warning : spoilers contained within + Show Spoiler + | ||
Broetchenholer
Germany1821 Posts
May 07 2017 22:35 GMT
#7740
+ Show Spoiler + Come on now, organized crime to abduct only black people to magically imorint dying white people into them? What? This is wrong on so many levels. The first 2/3ds of the movie were great, the unease in the air, the awkwardness that turns into fear. But then, your girlfriend was secretly never in love with you, instead she invested 5 months of her life to get you to visit her parents. Who will then not only hypnotize you, but also sell you to the highest white bidder so that he can take on your identity but without taking on your identity. That is the most stupid business plan ever. If they would technically be able to do that, why would you send out your daughter to "procure the right specimen"? At the start, they abduct one and that's the only way they would do that. "Good evening miss Armitage, this men went missing, you were the last person that saw her. According to our files, that happened 6 times already in the last 2 years, care to explain?" And then there are the "grandparents" that act reaaaaaaaaallyyyyyyy weird, but not old white woman weird, hypnotized black slave women weird. Because the movie has to have a big twist at the end and in this one, the script can only do it by showing one thing and then pretending we saw something else all along. I hate that. It's not "Now you see me" level of bullshit but it ruins a movie that would have been pretty cool otherwise. 6.5/10 | ||
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