On March 20 2017 06:31 lestye wrote:
Holy shit that's bad.
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On March 20 2017 06:31 lestye wrote: Holy shit that's bad. | ||
Mafe
Germany5915 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8711 Posts
On March 20 2017 07:55 Mafe wrote: Happened to encounter a trailer for this show. Basically, mix of dark knight and iron man 1 storyline, but without the fancy costumes? Add in the flavour of extremely cliche eastern philosophy with zero depth, terrible acting, direction, martial arts choreography and writing, and you've got it. | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On March 20 2017 08:21 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2017 07:55 Mafe wrote: Happened to encounter a trailer for this show. Basically, mix of dark knight and iron man 1 storyline, but without the fancy costumes? Add in the flavour of extremely cliche eastern philosophy with zero depth, terrible acting, direction, martial arts choreography and writing, and you've got it. You are overdoing it with your hate. Writing is OK for main character, pretty good for many others. Acting is also good. Main problem is lack of really good fighting scenes. | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8711 Posts
However, it is unremarkable (terrible was probably overdoing) in every single way. Finn was unable to do basic martial arts, due to awful planning leaving him no time to train, and being asked to do fight scenes with no rehearsal at 15 minutes notice (?). The writing was very shallow, although a couple of the characters were ok. I like Ward's arc. My main problem with this show is that it was supposed to be the martial arts one with a martial arts master, and the fight choerography was poor and the main lead (martial arts master) looked far less comfortable fighting than any of the other people fighting. I would give the whole thing 5/10. It was entertaining enough but shallow and poorly executed. | ||
crappen
Norway1546 Posts
On March 20 2017 09:03 -Archangel- wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2017 08:21 Jockmcplop wrote: On March 20 2017 07:55 Mafe wrote: Happened to encounter a trailer for this show. Basically, mix of dark knight and iron man 1 storyline, but without the fancy costumes? Add in the flavour of extremely cliche eastern philosophy with zero depth, terrible acting, direction, martial arts choreography and writing, and you've got it. You are overdoing it with your hate. Writing is OK for main character, pretty good for many others. Acting is also good. Main problem is lack of really good fighting scenes. What he wrote is an understatement for me. I guess it's what you expect. It's like Pacific Rim, people hated it, cause they expected atleast some story/writing, I expected cool monsters and jaegers, and so for me that film is absolutely brilliant, while the story only got you from fight A to B. Problem with IF, is that it's not really good at anything, and since I expected some cool fighting it's not worth watching. | ||
N0
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:46 crappen wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2017 09:03 -Archangel- wrote: On March 20 2017 08:21 Jockmcplop wrote: On March 20 2017 07:55 Mafe wrote: Happened to encounter a trailer for this show. Basically, mix of dark knight and iron man 1 storyline, but without the fancy costumes? Add in the flavour of extremely cliche eastern philosophy with zero depth, terrible acting, direction, martial arts choreography and writing, and you've got it. You are overdoing it with your hate. Writing is OK for main character, pretty good for many others. Acting is also good. Main problem is lack of really good fighting scenes. What he wrote is an understatement for me. I guess it's what you expect. It's like Pacific Rim, people hated it, cause they expected atleast some story/writing, I expected cool monsters and jaegers, and so for me that film is absolutely brilliant, while the story only got you from fight A to B. Problem with IF, is that it's not really good at anything, and since I expected some cool fighting it's not worth watching. I could not make it through the first episode. It was aggressively uninteresting. | ||
aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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N0
154 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On March 20 2017 21:46 crappen wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2017 09:03 -Archangel- wrote: On March 20 2017 08:21 Jockmcplop wrote: On March 20 2017 07:55 Mafe wrote: Happened to encounter a trailer for this show. Basically, mix of dark knight and iron man 1 storyline, but without the fancy costumes? Add in the flavour of extremely cliche eastern philosophy with zero depth, terrible acting, direction, martial arts choreography and writing, and you've got it. You are overdoing it with your hate. Writing is OK for main character, pretty good for many others. Acting is also good. Main problem is lack of really good fighting scenes. What he wrote is an understatement for me. I guess it's what you expect. It's like Pacific Rim, people hated it, cause they expected atleast some story/writing, I expected cool monsters and jaegers, and so for me that film is absolutely brilliant, while the story only got you from fight A to B. Problem with IF, is that it's not really good at anything, and since I expected some cool fighting it's not worth watching. I also expected better fighting but what I got was at least better story and acting then Arrow, Flash and those shows. Also I read few of the first issues of Iron Fist comic today to compare and his fighting skills kind of suck there as well :D | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8711 Posts
On March 21 2017 04:41 Chairman Ray wrote: Im through the 3rd episode and having trouble finishing it. The dialog and plotline feel uninspiring and forced. Bit of a nitpick, but I don't think the main actor has ever done martial arts before. Does it eventually get better? Its not a nitpick, its an essential part of the who project that has been fucked up. I feel a bit 'entitled' moaning about it, we've had so many good Marvel shows, but this one's a mess. They should have gone for an actor with more time to train and taken the fight scenes more seriously, they are shit. | ||
Godwrath
Spain10091 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17039 Posts
On March 21 2017 06:08 Godwrath wrote: Well, i watched the first 3 episodes and i enjoyed it. It's not as terrible as Luke cage atleast. Luke Cage was OK. | ||
Elerris
Australia137 Posts
For someone that was the 'chosen one', studied under warrior monks for 15 years and was meant to be some kind of master, watching him get beat around by regular thugs was really annoying. Additionally it seemed like he had never seen the iron fist before, every time he used his power he would just look at his fist like 'OOoo, what's this?'. Also, I think I'm really worn out on the whole identity crisis right/wrong internal battle that always goes on in these shows, the whole killing is right/wrong thing is honestly just overplayed and exhausting. idk like a 5/10 for me. I really hope the Punisher TV series doesn't follow the same route, but based off the other hero series I'd say things are looking bleak. | ||
Dav1oN
Ukraine3159 Posts
On March 21 2017 16:41 Elerris wrote: the whole killing is right/wrong thing is honestly just overplayed and exhausting. that is a problem of any modern TV show except for Expansion and GoT probably | ||
imJealous
United States1382 Posts
I enjoyed Iron Fist, though it certainly isn't anything on par with what they've done during Daredevil season 1 and 2, even though it is very similar in terms of story and content. I think it would certainly have helped the show stand out on its own more if they had stuck to more stylized or tongue in check style fighting scenes like the elevator fight early in the season and the drunken master scene toward the end. I personally enjoy the supernatural story elements mixed into a realistic world that they have been doing with the Hand in Daredevil and this show directly expanded upon that lore, which was a selling point for me. As someone fairly new to Iron Fist/Danny Rand as a character (I've never read any of his books, only seen him in Avengers ensemble stuff) I liked how they slow-revealed his backstory and powers throughout the season. The side characters were fantastic, especially all the transitions Ward goes through throughout the course of the season. All and all if someone asks me if its worth watching I'd definitely tell them it is, but its not a must see. | ||
imJealous
United States1382 Posts
On March 20 2017 00:28 Musicus wrote: Edit: Definitely liked Ward Meachum in this btw and his character and turns were great, but I have to wonder + Show Spoiler + why does Joy want to kill Danny at the end? Doesn't seem to make sense to me. + Show Spoiler + Joy doesn't understand everything that Ward, Danny, and we as an audience know about Harold. In her point of view (which was warped and shaped by Harold), her father is an innocent victim. In her eyes Danny and Ward conspired to keep him away from her and then murdered him when they could no longer control him. | ||
Velr
Switzerland10414 Posts
On March 21 2017 12:31 Manit0u wrote: Show nested quote + On March 21 2017 06:08 Godwrath wrote: Well, i watched the first 3 episodes and i enjoyed it. It's not as terrible as Luke cage atleast. Luke Cage was OK. Luke Cage would be fine, if not for the "i don't wanna be a hero but a male cleaning lady" part that went on WAY too long... The amount of reason/motivation Cage needed was just absurd. | ||
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