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On March 02 2017 16:58 Excludos wrote: I do wonder: What's the point of ptr exactly if Blizzard doesn't listen to the community anyways?
Blizz: "Hei guys. Let's test out this new version of Bastion" Everyone: "This is the most retarded thing ever" Blizz: "Great! Let's put him on live!"
i know, right? Ironclad was really unnecessary. The rest is fine.
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probably because people saying this is bad, don't bring anything to the discussion. And there were alot of comments saying that this Bastion now works on his own and doesnt have this frustrating sneaky burst. There were concerns about healing + armor + damage reduction. But Ana and Sombra exist, so there are counters. And I guess not enough people played PTR to give them enough data. So while they removed a frustrating part of Bastion for everyone. They added a way more frustrating bit for alot of classes.
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double bastion in every fucking game. Quitting overwatch there's no point anymore.
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When the game triest to hearthstone it up in ranked and you get the Mercy One trick 5 times in a row on your team to finally break you winstreak. But you pull through anyway and then the game says "you brought this upon yourself". And it puts you in a team with 4 Mercy one tricks. The other one even stole Mercy to make on leave, but didnt work lol.
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I really wish people weren't so pathetically stupid in this game.
If you're a healer your job is to fucking heal. The reason I never play tank is because healers always fucking let me die.
Playing a game as Rein in mystery hero. Say that I need healing since I have 100 health. Mercy comes over, heals me to 200, and apparently thinks that is good enough. She flies to someone else, and proceeds to not heal them since they're already at full health.
It's actually impressive how stupid these people are. I'm just in awe most times.
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"But I wanted to play hanzo" (Someone else picked him) "I've never played anything but hanzo on this map" "Our hanzo sucks!" The he proceeds to switch from healer to McCree in protest of our Hanzo apparently sucking (he did decent), and we can't recover because our actually good dps had to switch to healer, and the McCree was more than useless.
Next round he instalocks hanzo "Fuck you i play hanzo now" Proceeds to not get A SINGLE FUCKING KILL.
There's a reason why "hanzo main" is considered an insult these days. So many people think they are god among players because they can hit a lucky scatter shot once in a blue moon.
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Peak OW SR: 3100+
Current: 2250
Fucking kill me. I can't play any character that actually takes skill worth a fuck.
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On March 30 2017 15:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Peak OW SR: 3100+
Current: 2250
Fucking kill me. I can't play any character that actually takes skill worth a fuck. Did they change the MMR scale again? I play at the 3000-3100 range and it feels like the competition is much better this season than last. Either that or I am just getting worse.
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On March 31 2017 20:39 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2017 15:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Peak OW SR: 3100+
Current: 2250
Fucking kill me. I can't play any character that actually takes skill worth a fuck. Did they change the MMR scale again? I play at the 3000-3100 range and it feels like the competition is much better this season than last. Either that or I am just getting worse. I've found excuses not to play competitive this season yet (Bastion/newbee Orisa metas), but in general I've found a lot of swing to matches. Some games will feel like a constant, grindy, war of attrition. Some will make me feel like I'm being completely outclassed on heroes I usually do well at. Sometimes I feel like I'm the king of the mountain.
A lot of the time your personal performance is effected a lot more by team factors than you realize...you're getting those sick chain kills because the rest of your team made them panic into favourable positions, you're getting stomped because the enemy is getting the right picks, etc.
But I imagine the player-base is, on average, getting better at the game.
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On March 31 2017 20:39 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2017 15:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Peak OW SR: 3100+
Current: 2250
Fucking kill me. I can't play any character that actually takes skill worth a fuck. Did they change the MMR scale again? I play at the 3000-3100 range and it feels like the competition is much better this season than last. Either that or I am just getting worse. I have no idea. I just know that I'm fucking terrible at this game after so many hours it's honest just depressing as fuck.
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MMR scale wasn't changed in a noticable way.
Right now all heroes are perfectly viable. Some more or less depending on level of play.
Big issue with that is people usually play 1-4 heroes. So right now there is a good chance you get a Moba team (no one switches) and the enemy counters you to death and your team can't do anything against it. The disease of one tricks also plays into this. As you usually have to build your team around them to win. If you can't RIP.
Then there is the Dive thing. Currently the strongest comp, but also needs alot of communication unless your team has natural synergy in playstyle.
So organizing your team comp is really important atm. Most don't want to play against the enemy carry, even if they know they are the most capable. Or they feel locked on Ana or Rein.
Can't get everyone to do the right thing though. Even GM has enough one tricks ... (and low level usually involves alot of screaming, as the majority of players in ranked value their own comfort higher then winning)
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On April 02 2017 12:44 FeyFey wrote: MMR scale wasn't changed in a noticable way.
Right now all heroes are perfectly viable. Some more or less depending on level of play.
Big issue with that is people usually play 1-4 heroes. So right now there is a good chance you get a Moba team (no one switches) and the enemy counters you to death and your team can't do anything against it. The disease of one tricks also plays into this. As you usually have to build your team around them to win. If you can't RIP.
Then there is the Dive thing. Currently the strongest comp, but also needs alot of communication unless your team has natural synergy in playstyle.
So organizing your team comp is really important atm. Most don't want to play against the enemy carry, even if they know they are the most capable. Or they feel locked on Ana or Rein.
Can't get everyone to do the right thing though. Even GM has enough one tricks ... (and low level usually involves alot of screaming, as the majority of players in ranked value their own comfort higher then winning)
There is the issue that certain heroes, while viable and needed, isn't capable of carrying the team alone. You could be an amazing Reinhardt or a pro Ana, if your team sucks then you're going to lose. So most people, to have any chance of climbing the ladder, wants to play only heroes that can somewhat impact the game a little bit, like Genji, Soldier, Zarya and for some reason Hanzo. So they start "maining" these heroes and refuse to switch for any reason, take it really personal if you ask them to (no matter how nicely), and doesn't realise they are actively contributing to losing the game. Preferably with a "but I have gold damage!" as the reason.
I myself am victim to this thought process. Last week I thought "I'm going to branch out and get good with Reinhardt", but I just feel so god damn helpless when the team is pants on head retarded. So I went back to practically only playing soldier, only switching if I see myself not being useful in the composition (rarely for soldier who's good at everything), or playing Road or Zarya if someone else clicks him faster than me.
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Also, talking about Soldier. Why in the holy fuck do people seem to think that a soldier can stand toe to toe with a Phara Mercy combo? You can barely deal with Phara without Mercy under equal skills, and suddenly now if you can't deal with 160dmg rockets and a constantly topped off health pool then you suck. And this is universal. I have yet to be in a game against phara mercy combo where I haven't been told I suck. How about you give a fucking hand instead of whining you little shits?
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On April 03 2017 05:27 Excludos wrote: Also, talking about Soldier. Why in the holy fuck do people seem to think that a soldier can stand toe to toe with a Phara Mercy combo? You can barely deal with Phara without Mercy under equal skills, and suddenly now if you can't deal with 160dmg rockets and a constantly topped off health pool then you suck. And this is universal. I have yet to be in a game against phara mercy combo where I haven't been told I suck. How about you give a fucking hand instead of whining you little shits? Lol ionno but I get that alot, I have to tell them pick the mercy with me and i can kill the phara else it's not happening, 76 doesn't get kills when mercy pocket heals most heroes unless you land constant crits. I often just switch to mcree if no one does anything about it.
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1 hitscan is enough comes from pre Pharah buff. And the Soldier buff made people hesitant about Pharah. So people still think 1 hitscan = Pharah's will switch of.
Rein is another dimension of carry. Rein vs Rein is the chain of ascencion. Where your tiny pawns are allowed to help you win vs the other Rein. And when you win the other side just breaks down. Which makes getting good with Rein a chore, because your team will look like garbage as the enemy Rein punishes your every mistake.
Easiest way to climb is a Road/Zarya duo que though. Independent of the team and location, able to shut down any carry and you can make even ults from potatoes work. (Orisa might be far superior to Zarya, but she needs a healer)
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Why do people stay in comp games after their entire team has left, and just stand in spawn for 2-3 minutes? You're just wasting your own and everyone else's time.
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I seriously do not fucking know how to improve at this game. Or any game for that matter. But I'm so fucking stuck in plat league it's depressing. After 400+ hours in this game and I'm still mediocre I really should just give up trying. That's beyond pathetic
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Use a mic, keep positive to keep team on track, use "prefer this player" on ideal teammates, that goes for people who wrecked you on the other team. Play your best hero, doesn't matter if it's wrong or right unless the fill situation is really bad play heroes you're great at instead of filling with a hero you're terrible at.
Nothing losses games quicker than 1 guy braiding another guy because he chose Hanzo, especially at plat i find it funny. If he's good enough to be in plat he's probably a okay hanzo atleast let him play and only ask to change when it's not working.
Pretty much under high diamond the meta doesn't matter because the overall lack of teamwork dominates so playing ends up baby sitting people to play as a team and to play their best heroes.
There is a reason why so many games with capture objectives don't get done until the last second. People don't push in and take the area they focus too much on trying to get a pick and don't push in. It's largely because these are make shift teams so if you don't use a mic to coordinate and do call outs the team doesn't function.
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I do use a mic, I do try to communicate and I try to stay positive although that often doesn't work. My best hero is probably Lucio but I refuse to play him because I am not the good one, the character is. I don't want my character carrying me. I guess I'm just complete shit at this game because I can't identify what I'm doing so fucking wrong. My aim isn't amazing I guess, but no one at this level is.
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On April 10 2017 12:20 semantics wrote:Nothing losses games quicker than 1 guy braiding another guy because he chose Hanzo, especially at plat i find it funny. If he's good enough to be in plat he's probably a okay hanzo atleast let him play and only ask to change when it's not working
You'd think. People are still instapicking Hanzo in Diamond and sucking with him. The issue isn't that they're such bad players, but that Hanzo is a niche pick that doesn't work in a majority of scenarios. How they ever got to that rank is beyond me, but considering you can easily sway 1000+- sr depending on lucky and unlucky streaks, I'm willing to bet they don't belong there.
It's true that excessive whining is much more damaging. I've lost more games than I can count where it's 2-2 and then one person suddenly decides to just give up because he believes someone else on the team sucks.
On April 10 2017 16:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: My best hero is probably Lucio but I refuse to play him because I am not the good one, the character is.
This is not a winning mentality. Literally everyone else is playing a character they perceive to be strong, because that's how you gain rank in this stupid system. Even I've had to give up and play exclusively soldier lately because I can't carry my team with anything else (and I've gained 400 sr in less than two weeks playing at most 3-4 games a day). Nothing makes me feel as helpless as a Rein with no team to back me up. I bet you're now playing 500-1000 sr below what you should be because you don't play your strongest character.
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