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So I've been trying to play a bit in excitement for the remaster and I can't seem to win a single game. I know I'm not good, but no amount of reading the strategy section or build orders on liquipedia or watching VoDs seems to help at all. And when you play differently but still never win, its hard to actually tell if you're even making progress or if you're going in the wrong direction. I'm really kind of at my wits end.
I've been using Terran, and I seem to just get completely dominated by both zerg and toss, and the only two wins I got this week were from a Terran mirror.
That said, is Terran actually viable if you only have around 100 apm? I know they're amazing if you're a pro, but should bad players just not use them? Are there any builds that are good for someone at my low skill level? I'm not looking to be a pro, but I'd like to get at least one win per week, and have it actually not be in the mirror match.
Any advice would be helpful, I don't want to quit, but I'm not really having any fun at the moment.
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Maybe try picking 1 strategy for each match up and practice that until you have it down. Changing your style will just add even more to your learning curve. Once you are comfortable with the strategy and build order, it's easier to focus on macro and other factors that you need to work on. And yes, terran is probably harder to do on a lower level. But all you need is practice and best if it's against equal opponents. Match making should help you with that next week.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you, but I don't know what that strategy should even be since I haven't actually had any luck with anything. What build(s) SHOULD I focus on as a 100 apm Terran player?
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First of all, don't be discouraged by bumping into superior opponents. That is pretty inevitable for a new player. When remastered is out, you'll be able to play with people at your skill level and progress from there. It is not a question of apm. Having 100 now is fine. It will increase naturally as you progress. Don't worry about which race is better under specific circumstances either; simply play the race(s) you like the most.
When asking for advice, it's a good idea (read: mandatory) to provide a replay. Else, we have nowhere to begin.
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I can train you on Europe server, if you want to play terran on medium level. But the question is, are you prepared to raise your apm to at least 160 apm with proper training, or you have some disorders or don't want to make enough effort, which prevents you from raising it up? If so, I can train you in playing protoss on medium-higher level (yes, you can be good with 100 apm using protoss). I am available usually around 20-24 CET in regular week days, and during some weekends from 10-24
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I might be able to do that Radley, I don't have any disorders other than just being old now lol
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Ok, I can train you now. Add me on Europe server, nickname: KimLeeRadleYong
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Getting some coaching will help alot, also remember to watch and study some streams as well and then emulate the openings you watched and then deviate from those openings depending on what your opponent is doing, and how you feel to accommodate to your own style. GL HF and keep fighting, keep ya head up bro
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On August 14 2017 03:53 radley wrote: or you have some disorders?
Lol wtf? where did that come from?
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It's a reasonable question no? He's just asking whether he has any physical disabilities that would prevent him from going above 100 apm.
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Yes, it was standard question, which goal I explained in next statement. You can't be good terran with 100 apm, so either you have to work on it, or switch to protoss. You can play on C+/B- iccup level with 130-140 apm (mca64 did), but it's usually based on macro games with heavy camping (which mca64 likes so he is fine with it). And I know only one relatively good Polish zerg (GameZZZ), who played with around same apm as mca64. But he is phenomenon for me. And there are bunch of protosses who can be real threat and have 100-120 apm.
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On August 14 2017 07:38 B-royal wrote: It's a reasonable question no? He's just asking whether he has any physical disabilities that would prevent him from going above 100 apm.
I guess it's reasonable, I would personally not have thought of that question but it makes sense, I thought it was somewhat funny.
I definitely agree on the apm topic though. I play Terran and I'd also say that TvZ is usually more apm intensive than TvP, especially if you go bio. I end up hitting like 250 in TvZ (although I spam so that's inflated) during intense moments but only like 220 in TvP. And I don't play TvT often, instead opting for PvT where I can get away with like 170-180.
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Radley is probably right, you CAN'T win with terran with low apm, I think I'm done with the game, I appreciate everyone who took the time to respond, but I'm not having fun playing. TvP when you're not a pro is the dumbest, most frustrating thing I've seen in gaming.
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On August 18 2017 06:25 Paramisery wrote: Radley is probably right, you CAN'T win with terran with low apm, I think I'm done with the game, I appreciate everyone who took the time to respond, but I'm not having fun playing. TvP when you're not a pro is the dumbest, most frustrating thing I've seen in gaming. It takes a bit of time to grasp, but you'll quickly realize how paper Protoss units are when they all get annihilated in a single tank volley and start to appreciate it.
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Did you do some brutal training sessions with radley or why are you so disheartened?
Based on my memories when I started playing on ICCUP, I think 130apm is a big milestone for Terrans, where you start to be able to hold your own vs other more experienced players and the most fun parts of BW begin.
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Paramisery are you there? Which realm are you on and what's your account name?
I will record a video of me beating you in TvT with 40 APM and post it on youtube.
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there have been some excellent foreigner terrans in the past with low APM. it's true that having a higher hand speed can only help, especially if you're playing strategies that require greater multitasking, but even a baseline of 190 is good enough to play well.
and that's an APM that almost anyone can achieve.
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On August 18 2017 06:39 Cryoc wrote: Did you do some brutal training sessions with radley or why are you so disheartened?
Based on my memories when I started playing on ICCUP, I think 130apm is a big milestone for Terrans, where you start to be able to hold your own vs other more experienced players and the most fun parts of BW begin.
No, he's never sent message to me on battlenet.
I could teach you how to play Paramisery, but it's your choice whether you want to play or not. To be honest, TvP is the easiest to play from all terran matchups on that level of APM. You just needed to know how to play it. Maybe it wouldn't be most exciting style of play, but could lead to some wins.
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Lazare what does beating me in TvT with low apm have to do with me asking for help in TvP? That's like saying I'm having difficulty playing baseball and you chime in to say that you'll beat me in basketball. If you want me to say you're a better player than me, that's fine, I acknowledged that I'm not good from the start. Do you need to feel good about yourself by trying to publicly shame someone who admits they suck and is frustrated?
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and Radley, we can play later if you're still up for it, I need a break. Its bad enough that I lose to all protoss, but I also seem to almost only get paired with them.
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