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Hi, Im kind of a noob, and i just got the Razer DeathAdder 3.5 and i was wondering what the most optimal settings are for SC2. I know its a preference thing, but i want to know which settings i should try out. I have no idea what a lot of the things in the driver settings mean, so detail would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks! Cicero
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acceleration off, sensitivity to 6/11, dpi to 1800. try that.
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Thanks!!! What would you recommend for the Polling Rate? I have read a bit on it, and some have said that 1000Hz can be bad for your computer. I'm not sure what polling rate is so i dont know whch setting to use.
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set polling rate to 500hz or 1000hz. polling rate is the mouse response speed. 1000hz is 1millisecond and 500hz is 2milliseconds. Either way, it doesn't matter much because theres internet lag due to no LAN in sc2.
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I don't use the deathadder but use 450/900 dpi and 500hz. More dpi is overkill and you'll lose speed rather than gaining it.
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I just bought the deathadder 3.5 yesterday and im also having probs with my settings. What do you guys have your windows and SC mouse settings on?
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I have my windows sensitivity ay 6/10 and my sc2 sens at 40% but i reall have no idea what the other settings do, and i wpould really like to know aswell. thanks.
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900 dpi is what I use at 1024x768, if you use a really high res you might want to use 1800.
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I'm also finding the sweet spot to be around what everyone else has posted so far. I've had the mouse since May, and I have to say I love it. Going from having acceleration on to off was the biggest challenge, but ultimately it proved to allow for better control.
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Can some1 explain me, what exactly do DPI, sensitivity , hz do ? From what i know DPI is dots per inch ? And by incresing it i have to decrese sensitivity, but whats the difference ? etc...
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On October 18 2010 00:14 Gotmog wrote: Can some1 explain me, what exactly do DPI, sensitivity , hz do ? From what i know DPI is dots per inch ? And by incresing it i have to decrese sensitivity, but whats the difference ? etc...
Dots per inch means how many dots your pointer moves for every inch you move your mouse. You don't have to decrease sensitivity if you increase your DPI. An optimal sensitivity is 6/11. If you feel your mouse is too sensitive or not sensitive enough, your better off just adjusting your DPI. Hz is the response time for the mouse, but its pretty much negligible as long as you have some sort of gaming mouse.
To the OP, I recommend 1800 DPI for SC2, since you do need pretty fast mouse movements. I use 1800 with my deathadder on a 1368x768 (or something close to that) and it feels great to me. You should try it out, and if it's a too sensitive, turn it down to 900 DPI.
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Dots Per Inch (DPI) is the resolution of the sensor within the mouse. Higher DPI means that more samples are taken per second, lower DPI means that fewer samples are taken per second.
Windows Sensitivity scales the mouse movement in a exponential manner. 6/11 Windows Sensitivity is a 1:1 ratio of your mouse movement to registered Windows cursor movement.
Hz is the USB polling rate for your Mouse - its best to leave it at 1000Hz for the best response.
For example, If you try 450 DPI 6/11 Windows sens, you will find thats the same to 1800 DPI 3/11 Windows sens. Its best to leave the hardware calculations out of it completly, and just have a 1:1 ratio with the DPI and 6/11 Windows sensitivty.
Change your ingame sensitivty to suit whatever you want. I reccommend taking off mouse acceleration as well, so your arm movement and muscle memory stays constant throughout the entire movement range. For Windows XP, google "CPL mouse fix" and add the registery hack there. For Windows 7, google "Mark C Mouse Fix" and follow his instructions.
Hope this helps.
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On October 16 2010 09:08 Black Gun wrote: acceleration off, sensitivity to 6/11, dpi to 1800. try that. lol thats exactly what i use :D
in sc2 i use lowest resolution and 60% speed
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On October 16 2010 10:12 Glockateer wrote: I don't use the deathadder but use 450/900 dpi and 500hz. More dpi is overkill and you'll lose speed rather than gaining it.
You should note that DPi =/= speed. If you raise you dpi you're mouse will move less "jerky" and of course you'll experience an increase in speed. I personally recommend to play on highest dpi with low sensitivity if you have a steady hand. Otherwise switch the settings around (low dpi high sensitivity).
Anyway, I have the exact same mouse and use the following settings: In the razer driver: 3600dpi, 1000Mhz polling rate, acc. off, windows pointer speed at 5, X/Y axis on 5 and sensitivity on 10.
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On October 16 2010 09:08 Black Gun wrote: acceleration off, sensitivity to 6/11, dpi to 1800. try that.
Sorry for noobish question but i'm not sure what you mean by sensitivity 6/11
Axe X 6 and Axe Y 11?
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No I think he means that the sens is at 6 out of 11. I tried the accel off, sens at 6/11, 1800 dpi and 60% ingame, and it works very well for me. Thank you all for your help!
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People keep thinking higher dpi will make you do faster movements which is false. Being able to accurately flick your mouse disappears when its too fast so you actually lose speed.
500hz is more consistant, too.
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the sensitivity settings in windows or ur razer driver menu determine the ratio with which input from the hardware is translated to the software. there are 11 possible values, 6/11 means a 1:1 ratio. this means that each one pixel movement the mouse sensor registers will be translated to the mouse cursor moving 1 pixel in game.
without going too deep into the details, there are certain technical reasons why increasing the mouse sensitivity above 6/11 greatly reduces precision. there are also certains reasons to prefer to stay at 6/11 instead of going below that, but going below is not as detrimental as going above it.
now, dpi stands for dots per inch. this figure tells us how many pixels of mouse movement the mouse sensor will register for each mouse movement of one inch. so the higher the dpi, the farther the cursor will move as a result of the same mouse movement. therefore, dpi can be seen as the hardware sensitivity setting and the mouse sensitivity setting in the driver or windows can be seen as the software-side of mouse sensitivity. the efficient sensitivity, ie the overall outcome of all this, is the combination of both the software and hardware part of sens. for the reasons mentioned above, it is desirable to adjust the overall sensitivity purely by adjusting the dpi, as any change of the softwareside from the 6/11 sweet spot would reduce precision.
many applications offer a modifier to the sensitivity. the setting in sc2 though is just a proxy for the windows setting. this means it suffers from the exact same problems, increasing it beyond 50% (which corresponds to 6/11 in the windows mouse sensitivity settings menu) will reduce precision. but as rts games arent nearly as demanding in the department of pixel-accurate clicking as fps games, a setting of 60% in sc2 is no problem at all. i would highly recommend to not go beyond that though.
also note that the efficient sens depends on the screen resolution. if u need one inch of mouse movement to make i through ur screen on a certain dpi setting and a certain resolution, u will need twice the dpi for the same sens on twice the resolution. for example, 400 dpi on 800x600 will yield the same efficient sensitivity as 800 dpi on 1600x1200.
i hope that helped a bit.
the polling rate doesnt really matter, just set it to 500 or 1000 mhz. it really doesnt matter that much. the difference between the 2 is that with 500 mhz, there is a 2 ms delay between ur mouseclick and the action being processed, with 1000mhz, that delay which is caused by the mouse is only 1ms. as no one on bn will ever have less than some 30-40 ms of ping anyway, it wont make a difference.
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