"Smart people will [switch]. I think almost all the Americans will quickly move to this. The Koreans too will understand that [SC2ProMod] improves the game. Some cheesy players, eastern Europeans and south Americans will probably not like it. Anyone with an understanding of the game will like it."
-- TSL Champion Nony
-- TSL Champion Nony
btw Idra fell for it
here's a taste
Idra [11:39 AM]: did you get muta micro working as well as sc1?
HotBid [11:39 AM]: we're thinking of doing one big mutalisk
HotBid [11:39 AM]: like morphing them all into one
Idra [11:39 AM]: permanently?
HotBid [11:39 AM]: then it shoots out smaller mutas like interceptors
Idra [11:39 AM]: that would be ridiculously overpowered
Idra [11:40 AM]: wait
Idra [11:40 AM]: what
Idra [11:40 AM]: function exactly like a carrier or spawns actual mutas
Idra [11:40 AM]: or do they act like broodlings
Idra [11:40 AM]: or what
Idra [11:40 AM]: i think making radical changes like that is just gonna discourage people even more
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Idra [11:20 AM]: how big are the changes
Idra [11:20 AM]: and are there any dangers using it
Idra [11:20 AM]: legal with blizzard or otherwise
HotBid [11:20 AM]: legally its fine
HotBid [11:20 AM]: its like counterstrike modding HL2
Idra [11:20 AM]: how much does it change
Idra [11:20 AM]: or what does it change
HotBid [11:20 AM]: go to the website
HotBid [11:20 AM]: it has the features there
Idra [11:22 AM]: i think this is a bad idea
Idra [11:22 AM]: its gonna fragment the community and official tournaments are never gonna run on it
Idra [11:22 AM]: cuz blizz is gonna have a hand in everything thats really big and theyre not gonna use it
HotBid [11:22 AM]: yeah but they dont know how powerful ESPORTS community is
Idra [11:33 AM]: eh
Idra [11:33 AM]: i dont think korea or china will adopt it at all
Idra [11:33 AM]: and those are the biggies when you talk rts esports
Idra [11:33 AM]: if you can get big euro leagues on board then youll get a bit of a split
Idra [11:33 AM]: but i dont think its worth it
Idra [11:34 AM]: btw i dont know anything about anything with computers, does this operate a seperate ladder or what
Idra [11:34 AM]: like you can play on a ladder with other people using the mod and thats it?
Idra [11:34 AM]: or just customs
HotBid [11:34 AM]: we're going to run it through ICCup
Idra [11:34 AM]: ah
Idra [11:35 AM]: ya this is never gonna work
Idra [11:35 AM]: interface mods and fixing high ground or w/e
Idra [11:35 AM]: would be arguable
Idra [11:35 AM]: but major changes to the game itself
HotBid [11:36 AM]: id argue that the bigger issue is its release date
Idra [11:36 AM]: what do you mean
Idra [11:36 AM]: releasing the mod?
HotBid [11:36 AM]: yeah today
HotBid [11:36 AM]: is huge problem
Idra [11:36 AM]: well ya its way too early, no way it should be done during the beta at all
Idra [11:36 AM]: unless the goal is to demonstrate what blizz should be doing
HotBid [11:36 AM]: nah i think today specifically
HotBid [11:37 AM]: is the issue
Idra [11:37 AM]: oh
Idra [11:37 AM]: why
HotBid [11:37 AM]: just a hunch
Idra [11:38 AM]: you cant say somethin like that and then say “just a hunch” after a minute of typing and retyping
Idra [11:39 AM]: did you get muta micro working as well as sc1?
HotBid [11:39 AM]: we're thinking of doing one big mutalisk
HotBid [11:39 AM]: like morphing them all into one
Idra [11:39 AM]: permanently?
HotBid [11:39 AM]: then it shoots out smaller mutas like interceptors
Idra [11:39 AM]: that would be ridiculously overpowered
Idra [11:40 AM]: wait
Idra [11:40 AM]: what
Idra [11:40 AM]: function exactly like a carrier or spawns actual mutas
Idra [11:40 AM]: or do they act like broodlings
Idra [11:40 AM]: or what
Idra [11:40 AM]: i think making radical changes like that is just gonna discourage people even more
HotBid [11:40 AM]: i dunno its probably not as big a change as the DT buff
HotBid [11:41 AM]: giving DT reaper ability
Idra [11:42 AM]: theres no dt buff listed on that page
HotBid [11:42 AM]: its for the second patch
HotBid [11:42 AM]: cant list everything at once
HotBid [11:42 AM]: that'll overwhelm everyone
Idra [11:42 AM]: ah
Idra [11:42 AM]: i dunno i think if you really want this to be a good thing for the community you should do the interface changes, fix high ground and some of the auto micro features
Idra [11:42 AM]: and leave the actual gameplay as untouched as possible
Idra [11:43 AM]: and even then i think its bad to fragment it at all when we dont even know how sc2s gonna turn out
Idra [11:43 AM]: tbh i think it has quite a bit of potential as is
HotBid [11:45 AM]: i dunno i kinda like the big muta shooting smaller mutas out
Idra [11:45 AM]: oh
Idra [11:45 AM]: i just moused over
Idra [11:45 AM]: the little date thing
Idra [11:45 AM]: you guys are cute
HotBid [11:45 AM]: LOL this convo is fucking gold
Idra [11:45 AM]: sigh
Idra [11:46 AM]: are people buying it
Idra [11:46 AM]: i havent read the forums
HotBid [11:46 AM]: 90% arent
HotBid [11:46 AM]: but i always knew you were special
Idra [11:46 AM]: i dont fuckin know what day it is
Idra [11:20 AM]: and are there any dangers using it
Idra [11:20 AM]: legal with blizzard or otherwise
HotBid [11:20 AM]: legally its fine
HotBid [11:20 AM]: its like counterstrike modding HL2
Idra [11:20 AM]: how much does it change
Idra [11:20 AM]: or what does it change
HotBid [11:20 AM]: go to the website
HotBid [11:20 AM]: it has the features there
Idra [11:22 AM]: i think this is a bad idea
Idra [11:22 AM]: its gonna fragment the community and official tournaments are never gonna run on it
Idra [11:22 AM]: cuz blizz is gonna have a hand in everything thats really big and theyre not gonna use it
HotBid [11:22 AM]: yeah but they dont know how powerful ESPORTS community is
Idra [11:33 AM]: eh
Idra [11:33 AM]: i dont think korea or china will adopt it at all
Idra [11:33 AM]: and those are the biggies when you talk rts esports
Idra [11:33 AM]: if you can get big euro leagues on board then youll get a bit of a split
Idra [11:33 AM]: but i dont think its worth it
Idra [11:34 AM]: btw i dont know anything about anything with computers, does this operate a seperate ladder or what
Idra [11:34 AM]: like you can play on a ladder with other people using the mod and thats it?
Idra [11:34 AM]: or just customs
HotBid [11:34 AM]: we're going to run it through ICCup
Idra [11:34 AM]: ah
Idra [11:35 AM]: ya this is never gonna work
Idra [11:35 AM]: interface mods and fixing high ground or w/e
Idra [11:35 AM]: would be arguable
Idra [11:35 AM]: but major changes to the game itself
HotBid [11:36 AM]: id argue that the bigger issue is its release date
Idra [11:36 AM]: what do you mean
Idra [11:36 AM]: releasing the mod?
HotBid [11:36 AM]: yeah today
HotBid [11:36 AM]: is huge problem
Idra [11:36 AM]: well ya its way too early, no way it should be done during the beta at all
Idra [11:36 AM]: unless the goal is to demonstrate what blizz should be doing
HotBid [11:36 AM]: nah i think today specifically
HotBid [11:37 AM]: is the issue
Idra [11:37 AM]: oh
Idra [11:37 AM]: why
HotBid [11:37 AM]: just a hunch
Idra [11:38 AM]: you cant say somethin like that and then say “just a hunch” after a minute of typing and retyping
Idra [11:39 AM]: did you get muta micro working as well as sc1?
HotBid [11:39 AM]: we're thinking of doing one big mutalisk
HotBid [11:39 AM]: like morphing them all into one
Idra [11:39 AM]: permanently?
HotBid [11:39 AM]: then it shoots out smaller mutas like interceptors
Idra [11:39 AM]: that would be ridiculously overpowered
Idra [11:40 AM]: wait
Idra [11:40 AM]: what
Idra [11:40 AM]: function exactly like a carrier or spawns actual mutas
Idra [11:40 AM]: or do they act like broodlings
Idra [11:40 AM]: or what
Idra [11:40 AM]: i think making radical changes like that is just gonna discourage people even more
HotBid [11:40 AM]: i dunno its probably not as big a change as the DT buff
HotBid [11:41 AM]: giving DT reaper ability
Idra [11:42 AM]: theres no dt buff listed on that page
HotBid [11:42 AM]: its for the second patch
HotBid [11:42 AM]: cant list everything at once
HotBid [11:42 AM]: that'll overwhelm everyone
Idra [11:42 AM]: ah
Idra [11:42 AM]: i dunno i think if you really want this to be a good thing for the community you should do the interface changes, fix high ground and some of the auto micro features
Idra [11:42 AM]: and leave the actual gameplay as untouched as possible
Idra [11:43 AM]: and even then i think its bad to fragment it at all when we dont even know how sc2s gonna turn out
Idra [11:43 AM]: tbh i think it has quite a bit of potential as is
HotBid [11:45 AM]: i dunno i kinda like the big muta shooting smaller mutas out
Idra [11:45 AM]: oh
Idra [11:45 AM]: i just moused over
Idra [11:45 AM]: the little date thing
Idra [11:45 AM]: you guys are cute
HotBid [11:45 AM]: LOL this convo is fucking gold
Idra [11:45 AM]: sigh
Idra [11:46 AM]: are people buying it
Idra [11:46 AM]: i havent read the forums
HotBid [11:46 AM]: 90% arent
HotBid [11:46 AM]: but i always knew you were special
Idra [11:46 AM]: i dont fuckin know what day it is