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I decided to come up with the idea today with this thread. it came to me because I was thinking about when I was bad at ZvZ i would veto scrap station even though I was good at other match ups on scrap i found that i just didn't wanna play vs zerg so it was worth the loss.
So the idea here is their is going to be 3 polls you vote in the poll of your race. The sole propose of this thread is that if your not in the mood to play ZvT veto the maps that your most commonly going to bump into a Terran. The more I write this thread the more I think its going to get a lot of hate but I hope some people can find it handy.
I have also thought of the possibility of only having 1 vote but it only really matters what the majority of maps are vetoed
Poll: What map do you veto (terran)Scrap Station (79) 49% None (29) 18% Delta Quadrant (17) 11% Black Water gultch (11) 7% Slag Pits (11) 7% Typhon Pits (7) 4% Xel'naga Caverns (4) 3% Shattered Temple (2) 1% Metalopolis (0) 0% 160 total votes Your vote: What map do you veto (terran) (Vote): Scrap Station (Vote): Xel'naga Caverns (Vote): Black Water gultch (Vote): Delta Quadrant (Vote): Metalopolis (Vote): Slag Pits (Vote): Shattered Temple (Vote): Typhon Pits (Vote): None
Poll: What map do you veto (Protoss)Scrap Station (77) 51% Slag Pits (22) 15% Black Water gultch (15) 10% Delta Quadrant (15) 10% None (12) 8% Typhon Pits (5) 3% Xel'naga Caverns (2) 1% Shattered Temple (2) 1% Metalopolis (0) 0% 150 total votes Your vote: What map do you veto (Protoss) (Vote): Scrap Station (Vote): Xel'naga Caverns (Vote): Black Water gultch (Vote): Delta Quadrant (Vote): Metalopolis (Vote): Slag Pits (Vote): Shattered Temple (Vote): Typhon Pits (Vote): None
Poll: What map do you veto (Zerg)Black Water gultch (44) 32% Delta Quadrant (38) 28% Slag Pits (23) 17% None (14) 10% Scrap Station (12) 9% Typhon Pits (2) 1% Xel'naga Caverns (1) 1% Metalopolis (1) 1% Shattered Temple (1) 1% 136 total votes Your vote: What map do you veto (Zerg) (Vote): Scrap Station (Vote): Xel'naga Caverns (Vote): Black Water gultch (Vote): Delta Quadrant (Vote): Metalopolis (Vote): Slag Pits (Vote): Shattered Temple (Vote): Typhon Pits (Vote): None
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I like to practice all the maps to get better at different styles of play (i am Z), its not like ladder really matters anyway and its good to have a lot of experience on all the maps.
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(Z & P) If I only had 1, BWG is the obvious choice, but I cant imagine having to play slag pits or delta quadrant... if only there was a fourth downvote for scrap station I would be happy.
Btw, I always wondered. Doesnt the matchmaking system find players first, and then checks avaliable maps based on their downvotes? Cant imagine why on earth it would find maps before players.
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Im not exactly sure how it works but i seemed to get a lot less zerg match-ups. Prehaps it was just me being so happy that i wasnt matched a lot.
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It's Backwater Gulch, not Black Water. And it's Typhon peaks, not Typhon pits.
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As a zerg player, I think Delta Quadrant is an obvious choice.
It would be interesting to have 6 polls, one for each matchup, that ask what map you would least want to play on in that matchup. For example, we may find that ZvT votes Delta Quadrant most while TvZ votes Scrap Station.
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I veto slag pits (protoss). I can't stand fighting terrans on this map, that siege tank cheese is just unbearable to deal with.
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I play zerg and actually enjoy Delta Quadrant, I feel that it favours muta harass so that's a plus for me. Slag Pits is a disgusting abomination of a map, they should bring back Shakuras to replace Slag Pits imo.
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On March 22 2011 02:00 ardonn wrote: Im not exactly sure how it works but i seemed to get a lot less zerg match-ups. Prehaps it was just me being so happy that i wasnt matched a lot. Its not like you ever get a 33% split amongst matchups. There isnt an equal amount of online players from each race at every time of the day and/or night. So thats why often you can sped days playing only against 1 race, or 2, and not meet someone from the other race. But it has nothing to do with what maps you veto.
If you dont like ZvZ on scrap station, then you could veto it, and it would be a lot less likely to come up. Though you would also have less ZvP and ZvT games on scrap station. But vetoing scrap station, or any map, wont actually make you face less zergs.
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I simply hate Delta Quadrant. I play terran and I'm sick of it. They should rename it to Muta-Fest
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Well i hope the post still serves some worth. Sorry about the Mistakes in the poll very silly mistakes . Seems like only zerg like scrap though.
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Slag, Blackwater, and Delta. All the other maps range from decent to good imo.
Plat random player btw.
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None, but I'm tempted to veto BWG because I've had it in five of my past 6 ladder 1v1s.
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Vetoing all z maps, cauz i can't stand zvz anymore. Even though it's probably my best mu as of late, i just can't stand it. I'm also vetoing delta quadrant, because it's just impossible to deal with P and T early aggression with a fast expand except maybe if you expand on the back...
Edit : On March 22 2011 02:18 morimacil wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 02:00 ardonn wrote: Im not exactly sure how it works but i seemed to get a lot less zerg match-ups. Prehaps it was just me being so happy that i wasnt matched a lot. Its not like you ever get a 33% split amongst matchups. There isnt an equal amount of online players from each race at every time of the day and/or night. So thats why often you can sped days playing only against 1 race, or 2, and not meet someone from the other race. But it has nothing to do with what maps you veto. If you dont like ZvZ on scrap station, then you could veto it, and it would be a lot less likely to come up. Though you would also have less ZvP and ZvT games on scrap station. But vetoing scrap station, or any map, wont actually make you face less zergs.
Any sources ? :/ I'm not really convinced.
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On March 22 2011 02:37 RaiZ wrote: Vetoing all z maps, cauz i can't stand zvz anymore. Even though it's probably my best mu as of late, i just can't stand it. I'm also vetoing delta quadrant, because it's just impossible to deal with P and T early aggression with a fast expand except maybe if you expand on the back... I dunno, DQ is my favorite map for muta harrass. I have good success on that map.
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I recently started a spreadsheet that keeps track of my wins/losses by map and opponent's race. It turned out that the only map in the pool that I had less than a 50% win rate on was Delta. I'm not sure what it is exactly about that map, but I'm fucking terrible at it. I feel like every PvP and PvT turns into a 1-base all in, there's just no way to expand reasonably. Best case scenario you take your back expansion, but then you have to worry about drops on the cliff and warp ins over the gap respectively.
So Delta is the only map that I have deselected on ladder. I feel like ladder is really just practice, and I should be getting experience on as many maps as possible, but Delta is just so bad for me that it had to be done.
Scrap Station would be a close second, just because I don't like it as a map, but Delta is the only one that I hate in almost every matchup.
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i love seeing protoss/terran veto scrap station even though it is an unbelievably p/t favored map vs zerg (i hear its gay in pvp for 4gate) especially since both spawns now take 2 tumors to get to the bottom making Z weak to hellions from T. moreover, both t/p can wall at the bottom choke if they prefer (close to the 3rd) which, actually makes the rush distance quite short. moreover, the choke/quick rush thru the middle during the mid-lategame makes engaging nearly impossible. moreover, a p/t can take the 3rd more safely than the zerg. really, its funny. the only thing remotely zerg favored on that map is the long rush distance assuming no proxy/unconventional building placement, which simply allows a hatch first unless you early scout to worker block.
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On March 22 2011 02:48 TrickyGilligan wrote: Delta ... there's just no way to expand reasonably. Best case scenario you take your back expansion, but then you have to worry about drops on the cliff and warp ins over the gap respectively. Granted, this is at my level (silver) but I have good luck on that map when I expand to the other mains when I am going mutaling. With good OL positioning to see drops, and regular muta harrass, you can get out ahead pretty often without having to break down any rocks.
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I never understood why Scrap station is veoted so much. 2 base timings are so powerful, and if you get to 3 bases, the oppenents base is like 10 feet from yours.
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Both XNC and Slag Pits cause my computer to lag. It must be some texture used on those maps that my graphics card has trouble with. I have to spend two vetos on those because the game is unplayable for me in a big battle.
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