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hmm
if (1 =/= 2) { } error: expected primary-expression before "/=" token
if (1 != 2) { } build successful
i support this
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Your blog is NOT =/= pretentious
n_n; teehee
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this post != 1 star
this post = 5 stars
edit:dammit ninja'd
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I'm partial to the =/= I've never seen != used before and it looks awkward...
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It's worse than that IMO
You would never say like
if(teamliquid.contains(member)) { assert(member == good) }
because that would be a terrible equality operator to write.
The member object would never be equal to the good object.
It would really be like:
assert(isGoodPlayer(member));
== is really direct equality not "this predicate applies to this object"
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Snet
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My goodness, I never knew.
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Being a TL member =/= knowing correct programming notation for "NOT EQUALS"
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User was warned for this post.
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Being a TL member =/= having to speak in programming. != does not looks like it means "does not equal", whatever programmers say. =/= does. Hey, if everybody used Macs we could just use the actual sign. (Not saying we should all use Macs, just pointing this out.)
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why don't you use <> while you're at it too pfft
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!= is a great expression. I support this.
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On October 22 2009 01:54 cgrinker wrote:
And I'm going to tell you why.
A lot of users have recently started using inequalities in their post. For instance, "Being a member of TL does NOT make you a good SC player." Notice the not in saying that the field on the left and the field on the right are unequal.
Now, I continualy see people using two equal signs and a forward slash to represent not equal. That is ugly and wrong and if you do it then you are lame. Use "!=" to represent not equal.
Have a Good Day!
-Cg
You never explained why it's wrong. You just gave a subjective opinion (that it's ugly). Unless the admins reinforce it, I don't see why this is wrong. This is a gaming forum not a programming forum.
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On October 22 2009 02:23 Chromyne wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2009 01:54 cgrinker wrote:
And I'm going to tell you why.
A lot of users have recently started using inequalities in their post. For instance, "Being a member of TL does NOT make you a good SC player." Notice the not in saying that the field on the left and the field on the right are unequal.
Now, I continualy see people using two equal signs and a forward slash to represent not equal. That is ugly and wrong and if you do it then you are lame. Use "!=" to represent not equal.
Have a Good Day!
-Cg You never explained why it's wrong. You just gave a subjective opinion (that it's ugly). Unless the admins reinforce it, I don't see why this is wrong. This is a gaming forum not a programming forum.
I think that it's pretty clear that it's an opinion - I think that everyone would agree that as long as you are understandable when you make your argument, that it doesn't matter for clarity's sake.
subjective opinions are allowed...and not enforced.
this almost follows the guide for trolling though xD
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On October 22 2009 02:20 Hittegods wrote: What's wrong with ≠? you have to go to charmap to use it lOL
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From a programming standpoint you're right. From a real world standpoint, nobody cares!
Though seriously, =/= bugs me too. If you can't make a strike through a single =, then use !=, the rational alternative.
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I use != when I can be assured people know what it means. I use =/= when that's not guaranteed. Obviously, the latter applies to TL.net.
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Being a member of TL.net != Programming experience, understanding or interest.
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Maybe most programming languages don't recognize it, but ≠ is a perfectly valid mathematical symbol. I agree that =/= is ugly and nonsensical though; I'd rather see != if people aren't going to bother typing the correct symbol.
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OMG programmers... != is programming habit, =/= is mathematic habit. Sorry i study maths, not I.T. and thus i will keep writing =/=. Same as i never write "Zerg == aliens", but i do "Zerg = aliens" since its mathematical way of writing. Plus =/= is understood by every1, but != only by ppl who had some contact with programming, try writing this to "casual" people (who don't know anything about programming) - they won't understand.
</end post> (Oh crap...)
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It's true that it would be better to see people using !=, however many dumb shits don't have a fucking clue what that means because they haven't the foggiest idea what computer code even looks like.
That's why =/= is okay. Because some people are just stupid.
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If everyone here started using != then anybody who has read > 10 threads would know what it =ed. It's ! like it is that hard to figure out...
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On October 22 2009 03:25 Kaniol wrote: OMG programmers... != is programming habit, =/= is mathematic habit. Sorry i study maths, not I.T. and thus i will keep writing =/=. Same as i never write "Zerg == aliens", but i do "Zerg = aliens" since its mathematical way of writing. Plus =/= is understood by every1, but != only by ppl who had some contact with programming, try writing this to "casual" people (who don't know anything about programming) - they won't understand.
</end post> (Oh crap...)
In that case you should be doing ≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠
not =/=
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On October 22 2009 03:57 Dasher wrote: would know what it =ed.
This sentence would mean if "it" can be set to "ed", clearly you must mean ==ed.
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I resent the fact that you're calling me wrong without even knowing what I use.
So from now on I'll be using this: =\=
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On October 22 2009 03:25 Kaniol wrote: OMG programmers... != is programming habit, =/= is mathematic habit. Sorry i study maths, not I.T. and thus i will keep writing =/=. Same as i never write "Zerg == aliens", but i do "Zerg = aliens" since its mathematical way of writing. Plus =/= is understood by every1, but != only by ppl who had some contact with programming, try writing this to "casual" people (who don't know anything about programming) - they won't understand.
</end post> (Oh crap...)
Good programming languages use = to test equality and := for assignment imo However the vast majority of them (including all the ones I use frequently) use the stupid ==
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I used to use !=, but I got tired of people asking me what that meant. -sigh-
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whats wrong with:
"Being a member of TL does NOT make you a good SC player."
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On October 22 2009 02:20 Hittegods wrote: What's wrong with ≠? There is no alt # for it outside of Microsoft Word.
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/= and <> should also be considered acceptable ;o
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On October 22 2009 02:17 JeeJee wrote: why don't you use <> while you're at it too pfft
fuck yes~
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On October 22 2009 05:04 iSiN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2009 03:25 Kaniol wrote: OMG programmers... != is programming habit, =/= is mathematic habit. Sorry i study maths, not I.T. and thus i will keep writing =/=. Same as i never write "Zerg == aliens", but i do "Zerg = aliens" since its mathematical way of writing. Plus =/= is understood by every1, but != only by ppl who had some contact with programming, try writing this to "casual" people (who don't know anything about programming) - they won't understand.
</end post> (Oh crap...) Good programming languages use = to test equality and := for assignment imo However the vast majority of them (including all the ones I use frequently) use the stupid ==
Don't diss C++.
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On October 22 2009 05:55 freelander wrote: I prefer Lua
~=
okay? I learned it that way as well, but I always read it as "sorta equals" because I'm so used to using the "~" as "around, approx".
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On October 22 2009 07:03 seppolevne wrote:I learned it that way as well, but I always read it as "sorta equals" because I'm so used to using the "~" as "around, approx".
I started with cpp though
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On October 22 2009 05:04 iSiN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2009 03:25 Kaniol wrote: OMG programmers... != is programming habit, =/= is mathematic habit. Sorry i study maths, not I.T. and thus i will keep writing =/=. Same as i never write "Zerg == aliens", but i do "Zerg = aliens" since its mathematical way of writing. Plus =/= is understood by every1, but != only by ppl who had some contact with programming, try writing this to "casual" people (who don't know anything about programming) - they won't understand.
</end post> (Oh crap...) Good programming languages use = to test equality and := for assignment imo However the vast majority of them (including all the ones I use frequently) use the stupid ==
in my opinion Good programming languages uses == to test equality and = for assignment imo. However a certain few (*coughcough*delphi*cough*) use the stupid = and :=
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I generally don't like it when people use math symbols in normal sentences. There's no reason to write everything short hand, TL posts aren't your lecture notes...
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On October 22 2009 08:45 Chef wrote: I generally don't like it when people use math symbols in normal sentences. There's no reason to write everything short hand, TL posts aren't your lecture notes... Totally agree... but I get a feeling of awesomeness every time i recognize !=
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On October 22 2009 05:43 Symmetry wrote: /= and <> should also be considered acceptable ;o
/= reminds me too much of a smiley like =\.
<> is probably even less obvious in its meaning than !=.
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On October 22 2009 10:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2009 05:43 Symmetry wrote: /= and <> should also be considered acceptable ;o /= reminds me too much of a smiley like =\. <> is probably even less obvious in its meaning than !=.
yeah but the whole point is that the OP attaches random value to programming based inequality syntax, of which /= and <> are just as appropriate as !=. in other words they're both just as bad as using != when you're trying to reach the general public (i.e. TL) (although for me != or <> is just habit now really.. i never do =/= i think)
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On October 22 2009 08:43 b3h47pte wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2009 05:04 iSiN wrote:On October 22 2009 03:25 Kaniol wrote: OMG programmers... != is programming habit, =/= is mathematic habit. Sorry i study maths, not I.T. and thus i will keep writing =/=. Same as i never write "Zerg == aliens", but i do "Zerg = aliens" since its mathematical way of writing. Plus =/= is understood by every1, but != only by ppl who had some contact with programming, try writing this to "casual" people (who don't know anything about programming) - they won't understand.
</end post> (Oh crap...) Good programming languages use = to test equality and := for assignment imo However the vast majority of them (including all the ones I use frequently) use the stupid == in my opinion Good programming languages uses == to test equality and = for assignment imo. However a certain few (*coughcough*delphi*cough*) use the stupid = and :=
That's some FORTRAN BS right there
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On October 22 2009 11:05 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2009 10:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On October 22 2009 05:43 Symmetry wrote: /= and <> should also be considered acceptable ;o /= reminds me too much of a smiley like =\. <> is probably even less obvious in its meaning than !=. yeah but the whole point is that the OP attaches random value to programming based inequality syntax, of which /= and <> are just as appropriate as !=. in other words they're both just as bad as using != when you're trying to reach the general public (i.e. TL) (although for me != or <> is just habit now really.. i never do =/= i think)
I'm thinking that =/= is a placeholder for the not equal math symbol ≠ and != is read exactly how it is.
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On October 22 2009 05:04 iSiN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2009 03:25 Kaniol wrote: OMG programmers... != is programming habit, =/= is mathematic habit. Sorry i study maths, not I.T. and thus i will keep writing =/=. Same as i never write "Zerg == aliens", but i do "Zerg = aliens" since its mathematical way of writing. Plus =/= is understood by every1, but != only by ppl who had some contact with programming, try writing this to "casual" people (who don't know anything about programming) - they won't understand.
</end post> (Oh crap...) Good programming languages use = to test equality and := for assignment imo However the vast majority of them (including all the ones I use frequently) use the stupid == Lets see here, one requires the shift key, one requires an addition key press ... yeah I would say == is better than :=.
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=/= is like any emoticon or bit of ASCII art: it's a makeshift arrangement of common characters to represent characters that are harder to type directly. It's perfectly logical, unlike your OP.
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On October 22 2009 13:09 qrs wrote: =/= is like any emoticon or bit of ASCII art: it's a makeshift arrangement of common characters to represent characters that are harder to type directly. It's perfectly logical, unlike your OP.
honestly. you socially inept retards who use != are retarded.
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On October 22 2009 14:46 Mora wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2009 13:09 qrs wrote: =/= is like any emoticon or bit of ASCII art: it's a makeshift arrangement of common characters to represent characters that are harder to type directly. It's perfectly logical, unlike your OP. honestly. you socially inept retards who use != are retarded.
this was basically what I was going to say but it was going to be cruder.
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On October 22 2009 04:08 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2009 03:25 Kaniol wrote: OMG programmers... != is programming habit, =/= is mathematic habit. Sorry i study maths, not I.T. and thus i will keep writing =/=. Same as i never write "Zerg == aliens", but i do "Zerg = aliens" since its mathematical way of writing. Plus =/= is understood by every1, but != only by ppl who had some contact with programming, try writing this to "casual" people (who don't know anything about programming) - they won't understand.
</end post> (Oh crap...) In that case you should be doing ≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠ not =/= And once again, if i'm not programmer and my keybord DOESN'T HAVE ≠ button? But it does have = and /, hence i can make =/=
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im gonna keep using =/= because i want to.
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On October 22 2009 15:38 Kaniol wrote:And once again, if i'm not programmer and my keybord DOESN'T HAVE ≠ button? But it does have = and /, hence i can make =/= that's why he posted a whole bunch up there. so whenever you need one you can just get it from there
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On October 22 2009 21:18 JohannesH wrote: 5!=120 1!=1
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On October 22 2009 08:45 Chef wrote: I generally don't like it when people use math symbols in normal sentences. There's no reason to write everything short hand, TL posts aren't your lecture notes...
You have about a trillion pet peeves and complaints about everything
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