http://www.amazon.com/Vox-amPlug-Guitar-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B000ZMYRJS
Thanks for any advice.
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
http://www.amazon.com/Vox-amPlug-Guitar-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B000ZMYRJS Thanks for any advice. | ||
tYsopz
Norway215 Posts
To be honest, I would not buy a cheaper guitar than a gibson LP standard, but you won't really find any below 700USD, so I guess that is out of the question. If I could go 6 years back in time and give myself advice, it would be to buy a proper tube amp and a good guitar and not buy something cheap that I ended up replacing half a year later. Consider putting 1400USD into a good used amp + guitar if you can afford it, and just sell it again if playing the guitar isn't for you. Though if you haven't played much guitar at all, it might be much. All depends on your economy. If you are very low level, chances are that you won't really feel much difference between an el cheapo setup and a custom shop LP through a mesa boogie lonestar. Also, if you are completely clueless, you should have someone acompany you buying used. Even though it is not too common, people sometimes sell fake guitars. (usually fenders) | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
esp m401 It is a metal guitar but you can get a lot out of it, depends on what kind of sound you are looking for. Definitely a quality product. | ||
tYsopz
Norway215 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
If you intend to play rock stuff, I really wouldn't buy an acoustic guitar if I were you. | ||
Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
If you are a total beginner, for 400 you cant buy something really great. I would say: Find someone in your area (from a band you know or something) and go to a music-shop with him. Play some cheap guitars and amps and let him play them too. With some experience of a friend you can find something worth buying for 400-500 | ||
condoriano
United States826 Posts
On May 22 2010 03:48 tYsopz wrote: HeavOnEarth is probably right, if you are a complete noob, start with an cheap acoustic with nylon strings and upgrade if it's meant to be. Nylon guitars are pretty straight forward, you can get OKish nylon stringers for very cheap, just test it and preferably have someone with some experience help you out. I'm not too sure about nylon strings, imo it will take longer later on getting used to everything else. On May 22 2010 03:52 Sewi wrote: I wouldnt recommend the accoustic if you want to play rock music. Its a completly different feeling when you play. If you are a total beginner, for 400 you cant buy something really great. I would say: Find someone in your area (from a band you know or something) and go to a music-shop with him. Play some cheap guitars and amps and let him play them too. With some experience of a friend you can find something worth buying for 400-500 Music shops usually sell overpriced shit, it's better to buy online if you know what you are looking for. | ||
green.at
Austria1459 Posts
Make sure you can actually hold the guitar you want to buy in your hands (aka don't buy online) and see how it feels (weight etc.) Also better to go for a more expensive guitar and cut back on the amp It's more fun to play with a better guitar, and just for practice the amp doesnt really matter. (and at home you cant max it anyways) | ||
tYsopz
Norway215 Posts
I'm actually thinking of getting one myself even though I have two more expensive amps. You will be slightly above your budget, but it is really a much better amp than just about anything you can get for the same price in my opinion, and it blows all cheap transistor & valvestate amps out of the water. EDIT: I have to agree with above poster, there is really a big difference between a low-end guitar and a good LP standard/ american strat. BUT since your budget is so low, for the money, it is better to pick up a more expensive amp, since you will want to spend a lot more on the guitar in the long run either way, and you wont really have to replace the blues junior amp, it is good enough for SRV. I have very little experience with cheap guitars, but my impression is that squires are playable even though they sound like shit. I mean, Snowy White plays a squire, and he's among the best guitarists alive. (though he replaced all the hardware) Also, as Sewi said, the amp makes most of the sound, a bad amp wil make any guitar sound like crap. It is however important that the guitar is easy to play, but my impression is that cheap guitars has come a long way in playability. ALSO, get a tuner! It doesn't matter if you have the best gear in the world if you are out of tune, and your ear won't be able to put the guitar in tune.There are also computer programs that will do the job. Do note though that you should also practice tuning your guitar by ear, but you can't start out like it, it takes a long time to be able to tune properly by ear. (To be honest I don't tune properly by ear myself, and that is because I bought a pedal-tuner from day 1, but I would still recommend getting one, just force yourself to tune by ear first else you'll end up like me.) | ||
Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
Music shops usually sell overpriced shit, it's better to buy online if you know what you are looking for. I would go to a shop anyways. If you have no experience you should play the guitar you want to buy. Otherwise you may buy something really bad and overpriced online, so no difference. The shops I go to have the exact same prices as the online dealers have. Of course I am not talking about the small shops with 3 gits and 2 amps. They have higher prices but the bigger shops nowadays have the same prices as the online stores. If you meant to buy something used.... hmm I dont know. I would not buy my first guitar on ebay for example. No comparison between guitars. Without experience you just dont know what you should buy.. | ||
Caller
Poland8073 Posts
not to hijack the thread, but I was also looking to pick up a stratocaster. I found a used MIJ and a MIA strat for decent prices and I was wondering if people would know if its worth the extra to get those, or if it's better to just save the money for the amp. | ||
Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5962 Posts
Great value | ||
Reuental
United States457 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:02 Sewi wrote: In general, if you are a beginner, buy a cheaper guitar and a better amp. The amp creates more of the sound, especially when you are not too gosu and "just want to learn". This guy nailed it on the head. Go with a Roland Micro Cube (A great practice amp no matter how good you are). Buy a cheap guitar and save your money because you will be wanting to get a lot of stuff if you actually get into it. EDIT: Buy a tuner for the love of GOD. Its so helpful and almost necessary if your a newbie. | ||
SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
I mean, spend 100 or so on a guitar imo. You could get started for so much less than 400-500. Stay FED BLY! STAY FED! | ||
Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:09 Crabman123 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2010 04:02 Sewi wrote: In general, if you are a beginner, buy a cheaper guitar and a better amp. The amp creates more of the sound, especially when you are not too gosu and "just want to learn". This guy nailed it on the head. Go with a Roland Micro Cube (A great practice amp no matter how good you are). Buy a cheap guitar and save your money because you will be wanting to get a lot of stuff if you actually get into it. EDIT: Buy a tuner for the love of GOD. Its so helpful and almost necessary if your a newbie. +1 for the tuner 1+ for the micro cube Do not buy something like a Marshall MGDFX !!!!!!!!!!! Really, dont do it!!! They are shit compared to what marshalls sound like. Another good and cheap amp would be a Marshall valvestate combo or a Fender RocPro 700 Bot to get used for around 100- 150 | ||
Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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Genjimaru
Canada515 Posts
I would really like to try learning guitar again. | ||
Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
I'd suggest looking for a cheap used Carvin for 300-400.. They are AMAZING guitars for the price, and my $350 Carvin's outplay $1500 fenders no prob. Or if you like Les Paul styles.. AGILE GUITARS.. trust me, they can be had in the $300-400 range new, and played better than real Gibsons. Most big guitar companies you are paying for the name, not quality products.. thats why I'd never buy a Gibson or Fender, they are at least 3 times the price they should be. for an amp, its hard to get something for $100.. but you'll want to go like a 1x12 combo, maybe look for something like a Roland Cube 30, decent amps that can be had very cheap, I played afew shows with them in tight-situations and they worked alright. | ||
zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Reuental
United States457 Posts
On May 22 2010 05:40 zulu_nation8 wrote: So everyone agrees on the Roland micro cube? Yeah, the general consensus in the guitar community is that the Roland Micro Cube is a great practice amp which can play a ton of styles. | ||
tYsopz
Norway215 Posts
I'd at least check how much price difference it is between a blues junior and a cube, but a micro is going to be a loooooooot cheaper i suspect. | ||
mcgriddle
United States253 Posts
Regardless, pick something you like the looks of, because that is what 90% of people will care about when they see it. Personally I don't really like stratocasters (dont hurt me!), but the fact Hendrix used one makes them a billion times cooler. I have heard amazing things about some different les paul clones which are around 400-500$, which would mean a cheap amp though. A nice amp is soooo important. A good amp will save you from having to buy tons of pedals, and can keep an amazing guitar from sounding like crap. GLHF! | ||
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China26351 Posts
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
Rather than an Amplifier I would recommend a POD XT. It's a previous generation POD so it's inexpensive used and an incredible device. It will provide you with a tuner which will save you some cash and it lets you play whatever style you want. You can use headphones , which is recommended in general for practice if you're around others , or you can run the audio out to a stereo - which will sound good, because it's a complete sound stack and not at all like running a guitar into a pedal into your stereo. They run around $150 on ebay. I have amps and PODs, and the PODs get used way more to be honest. If you absolutely must have an amp, the Roland Micro Cube is good, as is the Fender Super Champ XD (I own the latter, love it dearly). You'll still need a separate tuner in either case, which is about a $45-50 expense for a decent quality one. Again, I never recommend an actual amp to a beginner, and I firmly believe you'd get much more pleasure out of a POD - which you can throw in your guitar bag and take with you anywhere you go, and create any sound you want. As for a guitar, go with a Mexican made Fender Strat, used, for $300-350 on ebay. They are _substantially_ better guitars than the Squires and if you buy used you can get hooked up. You can also check guitarcenter.com / musiciansfriend.com for used/clearance/scratch and dent items to find these. For example, I bought MY POD XT there about 3 years ago and only paid $149.99 because it was a demo model - this was when they were still $349.99 new. You can get decent gear on a $500 budget for sure. Just, if nothing else, take this advice: Don't buy a guitar, EVER, that's called a "starter" or "beginner" guitar. You will quickly outgrow the pitiful sound quality, poor intonation, and general lack of playability, even at a very low skill level. I speak from experience as a player and as someone who's taught lessons on and off for over a decade. | ||
zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130393365175&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT and also a roland micro cube. I had someone else recommend the line 6 podxt too, will check it out. | ||
Quesadilla
United States1812 Posts
I'd invest about $500 into each if possible, and definitely look at used first. If you want amazing rock tones, just get an Orange amp. Their "Tiny Terror" is a freaking phenomenal amp especially for the price. You can run it clean (no gain) and use something like a Full Tone 2 for your distortion and, snap, you are now Jimmy Eat World. Even without the Full Tone, the Tiny Terror with it's gain at 8 or 9 sounds so warm and full, you'd never believe the price. Look used first, seriously. Skip the Squire if possible and get a Fender. Also, imo, the Telecaster > Stratocaster for rock tones. I'd put the Strat towards the more bluesy end of the spectrum. You don't want a guitar with high action (distance from strings to fretboard), it will make your learning experience suck and probably hurt your untrained hands faster. I know I probably just sound like I'm coming off as an elitist or "this is what I do" prick, but I actually own none of that gear and am speaking from 7 years of multiple bands' experience and things I've noted from other performers while on tour. Go for warm tones, a solid guitar, never regret it for a minute. | ||
hellokittery
United States4 Posts
went with the epiphone les paul + vox pathfinder. pretty happy with them glad you didn't get a beginner squire. those are terrible x) | ||
Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
Hope you enjoy learning it and keep up to it | ||
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