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Honestly he's the biggest badass you'll ever meet.
What ill be grading on are these 4 things, Characters, Plot, Flow, Ending.
As for this we have i would say (myself personally) 4 or 5(depending on how you look at it) main characters.
Characters
Walt Kowalski: Yes Clint Eastwoods character in this amazing film, basically a completly racist asshole and a Korean war veteran, awesome! Don't let my remarks turn you away though, i absolutely love it, and in fact he is one of my idols in life(not kidding) he is an absolute over the top complete and total fucking badass, who isnt afraid to say what he is thinking. He makes this movie as good as it is, and even after taking our next character..
Thao Vang Lor: Our "dick smoking gook" as the italian barber calls him, starts off as a seeming useless typical asian kid, however by the end of the movie Walt has turned him into a real man. After trying to steal his car and being forced to work for him, he eventually becomes his friend and even helps advance himself in life with the things Walt teaches him, and finally stops being the little bitch to our next character..
Sue Lor: A very smart and "spunky" asian teenager and holy god is she fucking hot too, but anyway she is IMO atleast great comic value at times when Walt's trying to be hardass and she calls him stupid or something, and then when the African Americans are harassing her and she just talks shit the entire time yeah shes fucking awesome, which leads me to my next and least favorite main character..
Father Janovich: Yes he gets on my nerves alot and he probably gets on yours also, and while he doesnt have as big of a roll as the above 3 characters he is there and plays a semi important roll. Yes he basically bitches about how life and death and shit are fairly dumb and what have you, and Walt calls him a 27 year old virgin(lol) but whatever, and finally our last "Main Character"
Hmong Gang: While they play a very huge roll in how this movie ends aswell as some of the events in the movie im not going to say much about them, they are your typically wannabe "gangstas" who are also our primary antagonists in this film.
The Plot The plot follows the life of disgruntaled war veteran Walt Kowalski, who like i said above is quite the asshole. However he lived a typical American life in the suburbs of well really i dont know i assume Detroid/Flint because of the Ford Plant.. When his wife Dorothy dies which you see her funeral and all at the very start of the movie. He also has 2 sons who as far as i can tell have a love/hate relationship with him, while they love him as a father he treats them like ass and, even though they try to be nice doesnt allow them to be at any time. And as soon as his wife dies we see the Lor family moving next door to him. Obviously still incredibly racist and angry at the korean war Walt obviously does not like this one god damn bit as he makes it very obvious during the entire movie, next the gang shows up convinces their little cousin Thao to steal Walts 1972 Gran Torino, who of course fails miserably. This not only pisses Walt off but the other Gang aswell which of course leads into the rest of the story (yes its early and im not going to explain the entire thing, if you havent seen the movie by now then WTF go watch it..) But i think the plot was overall FANTASTIC in this movie, honestly Eastwoods best imo.
Flow Personally i thought the movie flowed incredibly well from one thing to another, yeah there was some missing time but all in all this worked incredibly well.
Ending The ending took me by surprise and honestly the first time i watched it, If my friends hadn't been there i would have cried it is actually VERY sad. I enjoyed the ending and it leaves you with something to think about, and if you dont know why he did what he did well. + Show Spoiler +He did it to give the kids a better life for you slow ones out there, as he had made peace with himself and could now go on. The ending is IMO one of the best parts of the movie, you don't see it coming well..sorta you do but i didnt know what was gonna happen at all the first time, all in all a great ending.
The Rating: Characters : 10/10 You get emotionally connected with everyone of them by the very end of this movie. Plot : 10/10 What can i say its Eastwood at his absolute finest. Flow : 9/10 Like I said there is missing time in it and while it doesnt mess up the movie i would have enjoyed some more scenes Ending : 10/10 Amazing.
Overall 9.75/10 GO WATCH THIS NOW.
Thank you for reading, and HAPPY FATHERS DAY! Also, i will possibly be doing some more reviews on movies as time goes on depending on how people rate/talk about this haha, so give criticism etc.
ALSO, suggest movies to review, hint : i really like giant monster movies :D, but suggest away!
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I liked the movie a lot as well (definitely one of my favs), however I thought the acting on the Hmong kids (Thao and his sister) could have been a lot better. On the other hand, I remember reading that the actors were actually of Hmong descent, so perhaps the crew decided to go for authenticity in their roles instead of experience, which can be good or bad depending on how you view it.
Anyway, IMO the movie would have been a 5 had the support roles been filled with stronger actors. Overall, though, the film was great, and I would definitely agree with arb on this one: go watch this movie if you haven't seen it yet.
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On June 20 2010 19:33 vlaric wrote: I liked the movie a lot as well (definitely one of my favs), however I thought the acting on the Hmong kids (Thao and his sister) could have been a lot better. On the other hand, I remember reading that the actors were actually of Hmong descent, so perhaps the crew decided to go for authenticity in their roles instead of experience, which can be good or bad depending on how you view it.
Anyway, IMO the movie would have been a 5 had the support roles been filled with stronger actors. Overall, though, the film was great, and I would definitely agree with arb on this one: go watch this movie if you haven't seen it yet. While ill agree it wasnt top notch acting, i still think it was pretty above average, from what i saw on imdb this is the only movie Sue/Thao had ever been in so i believe they may be true Hmong people.
i think it was most definantly good, they and most of the other actors worked well with their rolls(the hmong shaman etc) and as for these 2 i absoultely loved them, by the end of the movie.
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Walt as a character spoke to me a lot. I instantly pressed "like" on him at facebook after I saw the movie.
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Watching it now and loving it so far. Even though I enjoy most Clint Eastwood movies, and had heard great things about this one, I had previously stayed away from watching it for whatever reason. But I'm glad that your review has spurred me into action. Also, I agree entirely, the sister is fucking hot.
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On June 20 2010 21:20 So no fek wrote: Watching it now and loving it so far. Even though I enjoy most Clint Eastwood movies, and had heard great things about this one, I had previously stayed away from watching it for whatever reason. But I'm glad that your review has spurred me into action. Also, I agree entirely, the sister is fucking hot. Haha good, everyone should watch this masterpiece, maybe you can spur me to watch another movie to review? :D
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arb why do you like... halfway type in complete sentences
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On June 20 2010 22:00 Pokebunny wrote: arb why do you like... halfway type in complete sentences
~_~ Mostly because grammar wasnt my strongpoint in school, and I'm quite lazy.
However, it's still fairly easy to read.
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indeed but it bothers me
it's like you're trying to but then getting lazy halfway through the sentence
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On June 20 2010 22:05 Pokebunny wrote: indeed but it bothers me
it's like you're trying to but then getting lazy halfway through the sentence Thats exactly what I do, most of the time.
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I liked the movie, but the Asian actors were pretty bad lol.
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I liked the movie, but I found the actor who played Thao to be awful, awful, awful. Clint was good, and Hmong gangsters were acceptable, but every scene with Thao was brought down because of his presence. Overall, it had the making to be a great movie, but because of some of the bad acting, it's only good.
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i was thinking of watching it, now i'm definately going to
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I loved this movie, but I have to agree, Thao's acting was shit lol. It's been a while since I saw this movie, but I remember this one scene where Thao's locked in by Walt (?). It was terrible.
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The movie was really good. I laughed really hard when Thao went into the barber's shop and addressed him with all the insults, haha
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On June 21 2010 00:46 Salv wrote: I liked the movie, but I found the actor who played Thao to be awful, awful, awful. Clint was good, and Hmong gangsters were acceptable, but every scene with Thao was brought down because of his presence. Overall, it had the making to be a great movie, but because of some of the bad acting, it's only good. I thought Sue was quite acceptable myself, honestly the only part i thought Thao could have used work on was when Walt locked him in the basement, h sounded like a 5 year old screaming
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With it being Eastwood and all at the end you half expect him to pull some typical western 1v20 badassery but the movie surprises you, my favorite of Eastwood's directed movies.
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I enjoyed this movie. I love Clint's voice. But I didn't like the scene where
+ Show Spoiler +Thao was locked in Clint's basement. The way he was screaming and saying Let me Out was very weak imo. Ending was a nice surprise, didn't expect it.
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On June 21 2010 06:39 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2010 00:46 Salv wrote: I liked the movie, but I found the actor who played Thao to be awful, awful, awful. Clint was good, and Hmong gangsters were acceptable, but every scene with Thao was brought down because of his presence. Overall, it had the making to be a great movie, but because of some of the bad acting, it's only good. I thought Sue was quite acceptable myself, honestly the only part i thought Thao could have used work on was when Walt locked him in the basement, h sounded like a 5 year old screaming
The screaming in the basement was the worst by far. But also when he was talking to the Barber, or the Irish fellow that Walt helped him get a job with, it just felt like lousy acting. Considering the basement scene was supposed to be a very strong moment I'm sure, it sure was a shame.
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This is definitely one of the best movies I have ever seen. Completely agree with the OP
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On June 24 2010 05:09 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2010 06:39 arb wrote:On June 21 2010 00:46 Salv wrote: I liked the movie, but I found the actor who played Thao to be awful, awful, awful. Clint was good, and Hmong gangsters were acceptable, but every scene with Thao was brought down because of his presence. Overall, it had the making to be a great movie, but because of some of the bad acting, it's only good. I thought Sue was quite acceptable myself, honestly the only part i thought Thao could have used work on was when Walt locked him in the basement, h sounded like a 5 year old screaming The screaming in the basement was the worst by far. But also when he was talking to the Barber, or the Irish fellow that Walt helped him get a job with, it just felt like lousy acting. Considering the basement scene was supposed to be a very strong moment I'm sure, it sure was a shame. I think the barber was suposed to be more funny than serious so i never considered it.
But the basement scene was by far incredibly disappointing
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Gran Torino was aaawwwwwwesome.
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Horrible review, you didn't even research or recognize the geographical significance of the film.
You go about saying how bad ass it is, but then make broad statements about very important aspects of the film
edit -- Okay, it wasn't a horrible review and I enjoyed reading your opinion - but do not make broad statements about important movie aspects.
3.75/5
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Your review is so pro that you have critics. ^
I've been meaning to watch this since it came out. Thanks for the reminder!
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On June 24 2010 23:52 michiko wrote: Horrible review, you didn't even research or recognize the geographical significance of the film.
You go about saying how bad ass it is, but then make broad statements about very important aspects of the film
edit -- Okay, it wasn't a horrible review and I enjoyed reading your opinion - but do not make broad statements about important movie aspects.
3.75/5
The movie was in Flint(based on the Ford Plant) or somewhere in the Rust Belt, i believe i said that, though i didnt put alot in to it. Otherwise, please explain.
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Omg it was just on TV tonight. Definitely a fantastic movie by a mile. The actor who played Tao could have had some better acting skills in a couple of scenes, but other than that the movie was astoundingly good. It should have won more awards than it did.
Btw your review basically spoils half the movie.
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Clint Eastwood is such a badass! Great movie!
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On June 25 2010 16:40 Wr3k wrote: Omg it was just on TV tonight. Definitely a fantastic movie by a mile. The actor who played Tao could have had some better acting skills in a couple of scenes, but other than that the movie was astoundingly good. It should have won more awards than it did.
Btw your review basically spoils half the movie. Well i figured people wouldnt click the spoiler since it'll spoil something ;p
however, this and my other review, i try to go into the early part of the movie before the ending and other stuff.
Ill keep that in mind later though, thanks!
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On June 25 2010 16:39 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 23:52 michiko wrote: Horrible review, you didn't even research or recognize the geographical significance of the film.
You go about saying how bad ass it is, but then make broad statements about very important aspects of the film
edit -- Okay, it wasn't a horrible review and I enjoyed reading your opinion - but do not make broad statements about important movie aspects.
3.75/5
The movie was in Flint(based on the Ford Plant) or somewhere in the Rust Belt, i believe i said that, though i didnt put alot in to it. Otherwise, please explain.
I want to 1st, again, admit that my original post was much too harsh, your review was pleasant to read and my snap is bias...However you are again wrong. The story takes place in Detroit (I do suppose you could consider Flint a sister of Detroit). I wouldn't expect you to fully understand the plight (and my bias) that is affecting Michigan, United States...You have your own local economy to be concerned about. My bias represents the residence I hold of the State of Michigan.
The rust belt, is very far broad stretch of land and cannot be simplified in the context of this film. Other than recognition, through research and recognition of, Michigan's (U.S.A) significant influence on motor vehicles and their affect across all of the U.S and to a lesser, the world.
Michigan is known for its friendliness to immigration (Hello Dearborn). The movie portrays this. The house(s) filled of Asian immigrants, an old white man being the last of his 'white' kind in a 'immigrant neighborhood'...This is because Detroit was cheap to move too and work in the factories. When other nations in the world and country caught up to Michigan's industrialization the need for the massive influx of immigrant became stagnant and recessive.
--SOURCE(WIKIPEDIA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_and_industrial_history_of_the_United_States)--+ Show Spoiler +Henry Ford revolutionized the automobile manufacturing process by employing interchangeable parts on assembly lines — the beginning of industrial mass production. In 1908, the Ford Motor Company released the Model T which could generate 20 horsepower, was lightweight, and easy to repair. Demand for the car was so great, he had to relocate his assembly plant to Highland Park, Michigan in 1912. The new plant was a model of industrial efficiency for the time: it was well-lit and ventilated, employed conveyors to move parts along an assembly line, and workers' stations were orderly arranged along the line. The efficiency of the assembly line allowed Ford to realize great gains in economy and productivity; in 1912, Ford sold 6,000 cars for approximately $900 and by 1916 approximately 577,000 Model T automobiles were sold for $360.[37]
reflect on how that mass production, and its affect on the local, national and world economy shaped the industrialization that took place in the following two decards, leading up to the second great war. The same war that clearly shapes the way we live today.
In some ways, you can look at Detroit's degeneration from upper class as the precipitous of industrialized modern fallout.
Cheap labor is forever, and in infinite replaceable, first by ethnic group, than by educated Artificial Intelligence.
Industrialization - > Globalization -> Absolute Free Trade Monopolies -> A.I to sustain Quality of Life
LOL...Anyway...
The fact you bring up the rust belt, sparks intrigue though. Why don't you research the rust belt a little more? I haven;t done much myself, but -word-of-mouth- and common knowledge of that area promises some tasty tales and epics.
My favorite interest of intrigue represents the OH and PA portions. Their mines and minerals fueled the Michigan factories it's much needed energy!
Did you all (y'all) know there is a fire underneath a mine in the rust belt (PA), that has been ignited for more than a decade?! Think about that! More than ten years of your life a fire has been feverishly waging beneath your feet.
Gives a whole new P.o.V to those tards of children who claim the gulf spill is the only environ disaster to 'omfg ever occur'.
--Edit (Off-Topix)+ Show Spoiler +: Another fun (bias) reflection to take is on how intricate our countries (not-bias) road-workings are. URL + Show Spoiler +Think about even the conception of genius it had to take to create the structure to fuel such a juncture. Ack - even the recognition of such a requirement in daily commute transportation is staggering!
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I thought the actor who portrayed Tao was good enough. He did a very good impression of a mild toned mama's boy.
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On July 03 2010 13:50 michiko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2010 16:39 arb wrote:On June 24 2010 23:52 michiko wrote: Horrible review, you didn't even research or recognize the geographical significance of the film.
You go about saying how bad ass it is, but then make broad statements about very important aspects of the film
edit -- Okay, it wasn't a horrible review and I enjoyed reading your opinion - but do not make broad statements about important movie aspects.
3.75/5
The movie was in Flint(based on the Ford Plant) or somewhere in the Rust Belt, i believe i said that, though i didnt put alot in to it. Otherwise, please explain. I want to 1st, again, admit that my original post was much too harsh, your review was pleasant to read and my snap is bias...However you are again wrong. The story takes place in Detroit (I do suppose you could consider Flint a sister of Detroit). I wouldn't expect you to fully understand the plight (and my bias) that is affecting Michigan, United States...You have your own local economy to be concerned about. My bias represents the residence I hold of the State of Michigan. The rust belt, is very far broad stretch of land and cannot be simplified in the context of this film. Other than recognition, through research and recognition of, Michigan's (U.S.A) significant influence on motor vehicles and their affect across all of the U.S and to a lesser, the world. Michigan is known for its friendliness to immigration (Hello Dearborn). The movie portrays this. The house(s) filled of Asian immigrants, an old white man being the last of his 'white' kind in a 'immigrant neighborhood'...This is because Detroit was cheap to move too and work in the factories. When other nations in the world and country caught up to Michigan's industrialization the need for the massive influx of immigrant became stagnant and recessive. --SOURCE(WIKIPEDIA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_and_industrial_history_of_the_United_States)--+ Show Spoiler +Henry Ford revolutionized the automobile manufacturing process by employing interchangeable parts on assembly lines — the beginning of industrial mass production. In 1908, the Ford Motor Company released the Model T which could generate 20 horsepower, was lightweight, and easy to repair. Demand for the car was so great, he had to relocate his assembly plant to Highland Park, Michigan in 1912. The new plant was a model of industrial efficiency for the time: it was well-lit and ventilated, employed conveyors to move parts along an assembly line, and workers' stations were orderly arranged along the line. The efficiency of the assembly line allowed Ford to realize great gains in economy and productivity; in 1912, Ford sold 6,000 cars for approximately $900 and by 1916 approximately 577,000 Model T automobiles were sold for $360.[37] reflect on how that mass production, and its affect on the local, national and world economy shaped the industrialization that took place in the following two decards, leading up to the second great war. The same war that clearly shapes the way we live today. In some ways, you can look at Detroit's degeneration from upper class as the precipitous of industrialized modern fallout. Cheap labor is forever, and in infinite replaceable, first by ethnic group, than by educated Artificial Intelligence. Industrialization - > Globalization -> Absolute Free Trade Monopolies -> A.I to sustain Quality of Life LOL...Anyway... The fact you bring up the rust belt, sparks intrigue though. Why don't you research the rust belt a little more? I haven;t done much myself, but -word-of-mouth- and common knowledge of that area promises some tasty tales and epics. My favorite interest of intrigue represents the OH and PA portions. Their mines and minerals fueled the Michigan factories it's much needed energy! Did you all (y'all) know there is a fire underneath a mine in the rust belt (PA), that has been ignited for more than a decade?! Think about that! More than ten years of your life a fire has been feverishly waging beneath your feet. Gives a whole new P.o.V to those tards of children who claim the gulf spill is the only environ disaster to 'omfg ever occur'. --Edit (Off-Topix) + Show Spoiler +: Another fun (bias) reflection to take is on how intricate our countries (not-bias) road-workings are. URL + Show Spoiler +Think about even the conception of genius it had to take to create the structure to fuel such a juncture. Ack - even the recognition of such a requirement in daily commute transportation is staggering! The only reason i said flint was something i watched in Civics about the ford plant closing there(i think it was ford..) and that caused the town to basically go poor and all of that shit.
Though i never actually thought of any of that when i watched this movie..i just saw shit about racists and all of that and friendship and its all basically summed up by "How to be a man : Clint Eastwood" in this movie
Ill probably be doing another movie review soon, i try to make them enjoyable and mix in a bit of funny commentary here and there, glad you enjoyed it though!
(also im from rural North Carolina which is probably why none of the poverty stuff etc crossed my mind)
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I enjoyed the movie, but I predicted the ending, which made it slightly less enjoyable for me I dunno I seem to have a knack (/curse!) for doing that... I also called the ending for The Crying Game hahaha.
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The young actors in this movie were TERRIBLE. I loved Eastwood and the story, but goddamn they needed better actors for the supporting roles.
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I think the actors were okay. But everything else was just great. I loved this movie and saw it like 3 times in two weeks.
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the description of Walt Kowalski made by my dad was "Hes your grandpa".. he was mostly right haha but yeah i had an awesome Grandpa he lived till 93 and he was a strong guy.. he came from italy to argentina and he worked his way up makeing houses and selling them. he is/was my hero and he was so calm he didnt even know how to read and write but he raized a family and my mom studied in a good university and all..
he was a great man and he didnt rage but he was a badass he had people listen to him and it seemed as he had everything in control he had a hard life and he went through WW2 but he worked his way though.. RIP Jose sparta
this movie made me cry becouse of this.. there is some bad acting but clint knows how to be a total badass..
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