Alright TL, I felt like writing about my first experience on acid.
I have been talking to my brother on MSN and Skype as brothers do, and for an year now my brother has been talking about taking acid and that he couldn't await for me to try it. When I went for the winter to snowboard last winter (it's summer here) there was no acid in town since there are certain people that bring it in and they are usually carrying pot also so the dogs sniff em out and they can catch the shipment of Weed, Acid, X or whatever else they might be carrying. So my brother invited me to visit him for a weekend or two to party.
the town the bar is just left of the closes building you see on this picture.
I bought my bus ticket so it leaves on Thursday I arrive on Friday (it's roughly 24 hours from where I am living to the village) ready to party, all I brought was a back pack of 5 shirts 5 underwear 4 socks 1 nylon jacket and some other essential stuff. Friday came along and we were lucky to be able to get our hands on some acid, it was the Bicycle postal stamp type if anyone is interested. It was around 5 or 6 that we took it, before we delve in deeper if you ever try acid make sure you don't take it too early. So we start heading out the door to get a move on to go down to the bar where my brother has been helping out while the owner went out of town to check out a concert. We get there and all is good, can't feel it kicking in we we start working in the kitchen making the pizza dough cutting up all the ingredients and all that jazz. When my brother asks if I am feeling anything, I was feeling something but it was gradual so I didn't notice too much until he pointed it out.
I started getting a huge headache and loss of breath while in that kitchen, the stove was on and it felt like someone lit the whole kitchen on fire. I was trying to keep it together I was getting a pretty big head ache in that inferno I felt like I wasn't getting enough air while breathing...and then I saw it... my escape plan, it involved not having enough tomatoes for the tomato sauce! I told my brother that I'd go down to the liquor store and bring a few cans of tomatoes so we could keep the pizza production rate up! I raced out of the kitchen heading for the bathroom but there was one thing standing in my way...
This was the closest image I could find, it's nothing like this though.
That thing was a painting my brother painted, it was a painting that has a bigger picture embezzled with multiple faces created and limited by your own imagination, some may see the bigger picture of a man curled up praying and not see any faces while others 5 or 6 faces only other people see the man curled up and 100s of faces... when they are sober, I looked at it and stood there for about 15-30 minutes finding everything from full bodies to faces to various animals with enhanced colors splashing from the page that once looked dull. I eventually catched myself and asked myself 'shit how long have I been standing here'. I then proceeded to the bathroom took a glance at myself in the mirror and I looked handsome as always, I turned 90 degrees and drained the tubes and turned back and washed my hands and taking a closer look, and I was horrified as I stared directly into my own eyes, dilated engulfing what was once brown with a hint of green my eyes looked like something out of a horror movie where there is a little girl with soulless pools of darkness with no emotion just staring at you while you get sucked into their gaze. I quickly snapped out of it I didn't want to stand there scaring the shit out of myself by looking at myself in the mirror for 15-30 minutes I already did that with the painting.
I walked out of the bathroom grabbed my jacket from under the bar told the people at the bar I'll be right back opened the door and that was the first high point of being on acid, when you are on acid you just start taking deep breaths and calming down (If you are on a good trip at least) everything is perfectly fine in the world. You have a peace upon you that you know people won't understand unless they are on acid but you feel as though you would be able to share the feeling of peace by just telling them you are on acid......... Also you have a really bad desire to film stuff, while walking and looking down at the ground and at my feet I thought to myself 'Holy shit, this would make a cool video. It would start off with the camera on my feet and then slowly pan upward....'. but I digress. As I start to look upwards with the thought process of the camera panning upwards, I see the night is very very dark the colors from the sidewalks and the stores light everything up in the most pristine way possible enhanced colors, I inhale deeply letting go of an anxiety. I pass a family and we make eye contact at which point all the images of my pupils dilated huger than a mother fucking fist I start feeling anxiety did they notice? they pass and it's all good a few more people pass and the anxiety keeps building. I inhale deeply and the anxiety disappears, one of the most relieving feelings I have felt in my life. I continue walking along the side walk to a place where the only light this block receives is from the street across from it the street I came from and the street I will be reaching shortly. I look up and see some starts and I take another deep breath, I notice a beaming sun burst yellow coming from a tree I look up at it and think of nature it's beautiful, to my left two pretty ladies pass my by they are checking me out........ I keep looking at the tree as I finally strolled next to it, I turn my head to not relinquish the sight as I keep walking on. I hear the girls giggle something indistinct I'd imagine something like that guy is tripping balls, but, I'll never know and if you 2 girls did say that you guys were spot fucking on I was trippin fuckin balls! I reach the next block with light, I notice my cheeks start to hurt a little... I have been smiling since I left the bar, at everyone I've seen I've been beaming a huge banana grin. A few children are running around playing games infront of their parents who are holding hands and casually strolling I smile a bit bigger at the sight of how simple life seems when seeing a family like them. I take yet another deep breath and exhale slowly trying to calm down from smiling which made me think of me smiling, which made me smile. I finally reach the the street I turn the corner and make it to the liquor store safely.
As I enter the store I notice it's very well lit my bottle cap pupils will be very easily seen! But does it matter? These guys run a 24/7 liquor store the amount of pot,crack,alcoholics that come to this place to get a ham and cheese sandwich at 4 in the morning probably makes some guy tripping on acid be like small potatoes! I look around the 2 isles finding snacks, I find the canned tomatoes and take them to the cashier I try to utter out words but they kind of just melt. He just tells me the price and I give him about 20 more pesos then was required and he gives me back the correct amount plus 2 candies because they didn't have change. I march right out of there glad that I survived the gauntlet of buying canned tomatoes. I take a deep breath and start again on my skip walking, doing 180 spins as if I hear someone behind me every now and then. I make it back to the bar still thinking how awesome it would be if I had a video camera.
I reach the bar I open the door get in and I go back into the kitchen and I realize, SWEET HOLY MOTHER OF SHIT IT'S ST ILL HOT, but seriously Laggy....Why would the temperature change? I should have asked Alice. I go outside of the kitchen I can't do anything in there it just makes my head thumb so I go outside of the bar again and take a seat on one of the seats outside, and take nothing but deep breaths seeing bush after bush of this sunburst yellow enhanced by the L.S.D making it so much more than it is, it makes me think what if we lived like this? If we all appreciated everything? If we were all happy? I step back inside where chatter fills the sound waves, I join some friends of my brother to chat. I start looking at things intensely as if I don't even acknowledge their presence. They know me and my brother are tripping. They giggle at me and I laugh so it doesn't seem to awkward, they ask me questions that I answer my answers seem incoherent to me, but they understood them. They talk to each other again,I forget they are even alive again and go back to looking at random things, one of these things is my hand. It starts to have a pattern moving on top of it of some sort exactly like this optical illusion.
Look directly at the middle for 30 seconds and then look at the palm of your hand.
I stare at my hand for a long while before going to the bathroom to pee, I refuse to look at my eyes while washing my hands. I go back to the kitchen and clean some dishes and grate some cheese before my head hurts and I have to leave the bar again. I took another walk this one was a lot shorter than the previous as I was down the stairs walking in front of the bus terminal, I think to myself what I would do in this state if a mugger came to mug me. I thought of it as they would see everything the way I see if even if they didn't take acid and even if I didn't articulate what I am feeling. Noticing that that seems perfectly sensible but would never work I think of another strategy and tell them that I took acid and that I am tripping balls so if they would leave me alone settling with that one I continue walking and taking deep breaths. I am feeling more anxious than before , as I start walking backwards I cross a restaurant with a family sitting up against the windows to see the people who pass them by. I think it's all cool I smile at the lady looking at me, and as out of my peripheral vision I see the lady wave her arms in the air at me and open her mouth as if she was shouting at me, I immediately turn the fuck around and look at her strangely and then she looks at me strangely..... she didn't do anything, I turn around real quick and have a huge grin on my face thinking woah, that was fucking wacky!
Fast forward to 3AM the bar starts clearing out, my brother and I along with 2 other fellows working at the bar quickly go outside to start bringing in the chairs and tables because it's time to go to the club!!! Nothing exciting happens at the club, around 8 we leave the club we all get into the car drive to the bar pick up some sandwiches and get back into the car and drive across the town (the center is only 4-5 blocks long.) the driver screaming out like a drunken driver, oh wait, he was a drunken driver coincidence? I think not. The town is completely empty at this time we make it down to the lake, sit on the bridge with our feet dangling over the lake. We take bites in to the sandwiches hoping to fill our hungry stomachs only to find that they are drier then fucking sand it's almost impossible to swallow it's as if someone replaced our saliva glands with millions of salt granules taking out any moist humidity wetness that once existed. We quickly pass the beer around to help moisten the sandwiches, as we continue walking we see a 2 women and a daughter I can't recall if they were lesbians or if one was the mother of the mother of the daughter or maybe they were a couple despite the age barrier, or maybe hopefully not it was incest and all my predictions were put together and the mother was dating the mother of the daughter while the daughter watched.... I'm going to hell, back to the story. The three obviously got up early to come see the amazing lake, the only thing I could think of was the beauty of youth celebrating their youth, and by that I mean taking acid drinking till 10am jesus that is fucked up. Anyways we continue walking and go down a slope where we find the shore and across us is the mountain.
This was the bridge, and behind that is the mountain I describe.
This was nature at it's peak complimented with the acid it was a divine serenity as I watched the sun break right over the mountain sun beams warming my skin and white ripples reflecting from the calm waters ever flowing, the nearer the ripples of white reflection were the more spread out they were at a certain distance they all collapsed onto each other to form a blanket of white reflective light, with the yellow burst bushes on either side of me I took a deep breath and felt peace and knew that was where I had to be where I wanted to be for that one moment.
Sounds like a very interesting experience. It's the sort of thing I'd want to try at least once, it's not habit forming so I see very little harm in it.
I have a few questions.
1) What if any other psychedelic drugs have you tried and how does LSD compare? 2) Does this experience make you want to continue doing LSD or to never try it again? 3) Does this experience make you want to seek out different hallucinogenic drugs such as mushrooms, peyote, salvia, or DMT? 4) What sort of effect did music have on you? If you do it again you should try listening to psychedelic music to accompany your trip.
...Wow. This sounds like quite the little adventure. Doesn't seem very appealing, but then again, my stance on drugs is a tad conservative. More along the lines of "I'd rather not take them" than "I'd rather you not take them", but that's neither here nor there. At least drugs make for a great story time. Weird ending. =S
Oh, and next time you're on acid, try watching this video and reporting the results here. I'm very curious as to what your reaction might be.
ZlaSHeR, it's not against the forum rules iirc. It's just an experience that I wanted to share.
Helvetica
1) I tried shrooms but, I ate spaghetti so the effects didn't activate and then I didn't bother to try again because it didn't interest me.
2) I did it 2 time after this trip, it is not at all a habit. It's not a thing such as oh I want to keep doing it or once is enough I can't do this ever again. It was what it was, and if I feel I am with people I like and the scenery is beautiful I may do it again.
3) Nope, L.S.D doesn't create dependencies like caffeine heroin crack coke etc. etc. sure someone may like the experience so much they do it over and over, but that is because they like having the experience not because of dependencies your body creates. Also I will never take drugs extensively besides alcohol and weed, and weed is a rare occasion I haven't smoked since a week after I left there. It's just not something I feel compelled to do.
4) With the club music it just makes you flow, whereas with alcohol when you move your head forward and back you feel sort of a thud so to speak every time you jerk back and forth. When on L.S.D you feel more fluid.
Did you smoke any weed when you were tripping on acid? When I was shrooming, it felt like the weed made me peak for longer and made the body high of the shrooms much more profound?
I've heard that weed will make the acid trips more intense and possibly prolong them a bit as well.
I didn't say it was necessarily against forum rules but I figured if NSFW pictures/threads aren't allowed you'd think posts about tripping out on acid wouldn't be allowed.
Yessir Frag, Weed hightens the trip, makes things such as colors even more poppy. Also when you take acid you can't feel alcohol, so you can be completely wasted and not feel it, it's liek the acid overrides the alcohol to a certain degree.
an 8th, which is enough to feel it. I don't think I'd try a whole tab ever. Also a little disclaimer if this really did inspire anyone to take acid, please please please please make sure you do it with someone you trust and feel safe with in a place where you feel safe and not somewhere like in the city where people are walking around, that will give you a really bad trip. You think so much that you become paranoid in an environment that is not fun for you.
Edit:
ZlaSHeR: I understand what you're saying, but one has things that are not safe for work pictures of whatever it is most likely women, that demoralizes women and can come off as sexist. I am merely telling a story, of something that changed my life like the post about the guy that was in prison. It's just something I want to share with the community, not in hopes of making people try acid or drugs, no I am all for people not taking drugs, that's 10 times better for them. But what I wrote was just a story to read and enjoy, from the badly written jokes to the hopefully well described scenery.
A long term psychonaught here. Acid is amazing and I'm glad you got to experience it. =) Two tabs and up are the best trips by far. I also don't feel like im "tripping" per say on acid, on mushrooms the "tripping" feeling is much more prevalent. The body high and euphoria is a lot more intense for me as well. But visual wise, I haven't done anything besides DMT that has topped it. Kaleidoscopic patterns everywhere, color tearing, colors vibrating, full on hallucinations. LSD is so damn beautiful ='(
On December 16 2010 08:09 FragKrag wrote: I've heard that the normal 'dose' of acid is 2 tabs and I have never heard of acid being measured in eighths o_O
Probably cause I took a fourth........ I'm terrible haha don't know why I said eighth.
Edit: here is the bush I was talking about
that but there are whole walls line with it, the color is VERY VERY intense! Other times that bush is simply in the middle of a very lush forest so it's all green except that splash of yellow.
On December 16 2010 08:09 FragKrag wrote: I've heard that the normal 'dose' of acid is 2 tabs and I have never heard of acid being measured in eighths o_O
Probably cause I took a fourth........ I'm terrible haha don't know why I said eighth.
Edit: here is the bush I was talking about
that but there are whole walls line with it, the color is VERY VERY intense! Other times that bush is simply in the middle of a very lush forest so it's all green except that splash of yellow.
I've never heard of it being measured in fourths either. It's only measured in tabs here. And for the real effects of acid to actually happen you need at least two tabs. You won't experience anything beyond color detail with a dose less than that. Maybe some vibration and breathing. But for the full on hallucinations and kaleidoscopic patterns you definitely need at least two tabs.
Yeah I'm not interested in seeing hallucinations. If I decide to do it it'll be completely alone with maybe one other person.
The story I told at the end there were 8 of us 4 girls 4 boys. But I didn't care much about anything but what I was seeing, not who I was with. So yeah if I were to ever take that much (Doubtful) It'd be with someone super duper trusted my brother or a close friend.
On December 16 2010 08:27 Laggy wrote: Yeah I'm not interested in seeing hallucinations. If I decide to do it it'll be completely alone with maybe one other person.
The story I told at the end there were 8 of us 4 girls 4 boys. But I didn't care much about anything but what I was seeing, not who I was with. So yeah if I were to ever take that much (Doubtful) It'd be with someone super duper trusted my brother or a close friend.
Acids not really like mushrooms or other psychedelics, you don't really need a sitter. And people definitely recommend you do at least a tab. A tab is about equivalent (very rough) to maybe 1.5-2 grams mushrooms (very small dose).
If you took a forth of a hit, thats like eating a mushroom, or taking a hit of pot. You really haven't experienced all that it can give you, but I'm sure you will eventually.
A tab can contain anywhere from 50 micrograms to 250 micrograms of LSD. The threshold dose is 20 micrograms, common is about 50-150 micrograms.
My best experience with acid was a good ole hippy fest out in the woods. 200-400 people, pretty much all on some combination of drugs. Giant fires scattered about, groups wandering the forest paths laughing. There was even a too fucked up to function tent where the REALLY messed people could just kinda lie down xD.
LSD is definitively a social kind of trip experience thing.
Shrooms though....I do suggest you give them their fair shot xD. Do as McKenna says though, 5g, take is in a room by yourself and just wait for it. You will not disappointed I promise xD Darkness also helps. A trick I have learned about calming down, if you ever find the need. The "oh shit wtf is going on" kinda feeling, start losing grip. IF that happens, and you have a joint or a bowl ready, just smoke a bit and reality will creep back. I don't know why, but it works.
I probably won't do it, I enjoyed what I did and what I felt and that is that. This is just the story of what happened not, a gateway for me to discover the world of psy.As long as people are enjoying the story it makes me happy I made them enjoy something.
On December 16 2010 07:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Sounds like a very interesting experience. It's the sort of thing I'd want to try at least once, it's not habit forming so I see very little harm in it.
I have a few questions.
1) What if any other psychedelic drugs have you tried and how does LSD compare? 2) Does this experience make you want to continue doing LSD or to never try it again? 3) Does this experience make you want to seek out different hallucinogenic drugs such as mushrooms, peyote, salvia, or DMT? 4) What sort of effect did music have on you? If you do it again you should try listening to psychedelic music to accompany your trip.
Just to clarify LSD causes Psychological dependance and also has Drug-potentiation properties i.e you'll need more to get high after each time. Its does not cause physical dependance and hence is not "technically" habit-forming but I would not really say that matters much once your brain is hooked on to it anyway! Please take care and I echo Zlashers suprise at this being a thing to be proud about. Not after you see what that stuff does to you in the end, I guess. http://www.drug-addiction-support.org/LSD-Addiction-Stories.html Not everyone has the same degree of self-control as the other so encouraging LSD experiences is really not the way to go imo. But nice post anyway and I have rated it as such. GL HF!
I tried it before I had 1 tab, wasn't really impressed it felt rather dull but it could be that it was 1 tab. Everything was slightly red and some face waves happened.
5-6 tabs sounds intense OP but I don't think I can devote that much time for tripping.
On December 16 2010 07:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Sounds like a very interesting experience. It's the sort of thing I'd want to try at least once, it's not habit forming so I see very little harm in it.
I have a few questions.
1) What if any other psychedelic drugs have you tried and how does LSD compare? 2) Does this experience make you want to continue doing LSD or to never try it again? 3) Does this experience make you want to seek out different hallucinogenic drugs such as mushrooms, peyote, salvia, or DMT? 4) What sort of effect did music have on you? If you do it again you should try listening to psychedelic music to accompany your trip.
Just to clarify LSD causes Psychological dependance and also has Drug-potentiation properties i.e you'll need more to get high after each time. Its does not cause physical dependance and hence is not "technically" habit-forming but I would not really say that matters much once your brain is hooked on to it anyway! Please take care and I echo Zlashers suprise at this being a thing to be proud about. Not after you see what that stuff does to you in the end, I guess. http://www.drug-addiction-support.org/LSD-Addiction-Stories.html Not everyone has the same degree of self-control as the other so encouraging LSD experiences is really not the way to go imo. But nice post anyway and I have rated it as such. GL HF!
LSD doesn't cause psychological dependence and you only need more to get high each time if you are doing it insane amounts. I know the director of the National Addiction Center here in New Zealand personally, and he agrees and has even held lectures on the benefits of hallucinogenic drugs including LSD (esp. when compared to alcohol).
You're right about not encouraging others to DO it though. If they are interested, I encourage others to research the drug themselves and figure out whether it's something they would like to try, but never to just do it without knowing what they're getting themselves into.
Also, to those saying that you won't get any of the real LSD effects under 2 tabs, I think it is highly dependent on the person/batch. When I first tried acid I took 1 tab and I pretty much got the whole acid package, whereas the people I was with had a much duller high (same batch). 2 tabs got me synesthesia while, once again, the people I was with had a comparatively dull high. Point is, the amounts vary person to person, so it's better to err on the side of caution in case you are like me. There is nothing worse than having ingested 1.5 tabs and feeling like you've been hit with 4, and having to spend the next 12 hours in a state you're not comfortable with.
Anyway, cool story OP. It's crazy how much you appreciate simple things while on acid. I did it at a bach with a bay view while the sun was shining, birds were chirping, and with Van Morrison playing. It was literally like an emotional/intellectual orgasm. I don't think I've ever experienced that sort of beauty besides that one occasion.
On December 16 2010 07:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote: 1) What if any other psychedelic drugs have you tried and how does LSD compare? 2) Does this experience make you want to continue doing LSD or to never try it again? 3) Does this experience make you want to seek out different hallucinogenic drugs such as mushrooms, peyote, salvia, or DMT? 4) What sort of effect did music have on you? If you do it again you should try listening to psychedelic music to accompany your trip.
These are all difficult questions to answer definitively, but I'll try however discursively or circuitously to explain why as I attempt the permanently-out-of-reach-when-discussing-psychoactive-drugs definite answer.
1) Assuming that phenethylamines (e.g. MDMA, 2CB) and disassociatives (e.g. DXM, ketamine) aren't considered psychedelics, then mushrooms and LSD are probably the easiest point of comparison, but - and I understand this is commonly typed sentence - different people react differently to different substances. I have a friend who loved every mushroom trip he had and cried every time he did LSD, whereas acid I adored every time and mushrooms I felt ambiguous about. Not especially bad, per se, but not good either. I also ate heavy doses most of the time - in a dozen or so mushroom trips, I only ate less than 5 grams four times or so, and for acid I took three tabs every time, minimum (not including trips where I mixed these two) - so my reactions may be more extreme than most.
Basically, mushrooms were a lot faster coming on, speedier at peak, and gone faster than acid. Mushrooms also generally robbed me of my speech and resonated thoroughly through the body. Acid did not have those guttural tones and was a lot more lucid, almost exclusively aesthetic, and longer lasting. I went to a few concerts on acid; I would never gone to a concert on mushrooms. I could trip on mushrooms for eight hours and fall asleep easily; I stayed up for 36 hours straight more than a few times on acid.
2) I haven't touched drugs (for the most part) in nearly three years, but acid was hands down my favourite drug. That said, I was a pothead eating various psychoactives like candy at the time, and now I'm fairly boring; I wouldn't do acid now because I've seen it dismantle less steeled people.
3) When salvia isn't fucking around, it's infinitely stronger and less comfortable than 'shroom/acid trips, but the shorter duration is much easier to handle. Salvia crests in the first few minutes, after which you feel around an hour of discomfort, whereas mushrooms last for eight hours or so, acid even longer (in my experience).
Peyote and mescaline are nearly impossible to find outside of specific Native American reserves these days; I wouldn't count on getting it. Even if someone tells you they have or have done mescaline (powder), they could very easily have been duped into buying PCP.
Never did DMT. Never saw it.
4) Acid tends to amplify sensations, so in the interest self-subjection to foreign stimuli for 'trippier' experiences, listen to something you think you'll like but aren't overly familiar with. Albums I was certain would amplify or be amplified by the acid came up empty because I had listened to them hundreds of times before and could anticipate every moment, but albums I was only vaguely familiar with always delivered maximum results.
The downside to this is these albums will summarily be unable to top the experience and will very quickly fall out of rotation forever, but you'll always have the memories however distorted.
On December 16 2010 07:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Sounds like a very interesting experience. It's the sort of thing I'd want to try at least once, it's not habit forming so I see very little harm in it.
I have a few questions.
1) What if any other psychedelic drugs have you tried and how does LSD compare? 2) Does this experience make you want to continue doing LSD or to never try it again? 3) Does this experience make you want to seek out different hallucinogenic drugs such as mushrooms, peyote, salvia, or DMT? 4) What sort of effect did music have on you? If you do it again you should try listening to psychedelic music to accompany your trip.
Just to clarify LSD causes Psychological dependance and also has Drug-potentiation properties i.e you'll need more to get high after each time. Its does not cause physical dependance and hence is not "technically" habit-forming but I would not really say that matters much once your brain is hooked on to it anyway! Please take care and I echo Zlashers suprise at this being a thing to be proud about. Not after you see what that stuff does to you in the end, I guess. http://www.drug-addiction-support.org/LSD-Addiction-Stories.html Not everyone has the same degree of self-control as the other so encouraging LSD experiences is really not the way to go imo. But nice post anyway and I have rated it as such. GL HF!
That site you linked is terrible and thinks LSD = Heroin. What the hell are you even talking about??? LSD is probably the lowest drug on the addiction scale.