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Today was a decent day overall, but god damn did it start off horribly. First, I couldn't get to sleep last night so I ended up staying up all night and ended up sleeping from 7 am to 8:30 am until I had to get up to go to class. Luckily, the GSL Code A finals and TL kept me entertained all night.
I get up and head out to go to class. I drive like a normal person in the left lane on the highway to school and all is well, until an asshole driver comes out of nowhere. We all know who they are. They are the ones that drive these luxurious cars and think they're too good to follow the basic rules of the road (Not all of them! Just some !). Like I said before, I'm in the left lane just cruising at 60-62 mph. The idiot is in the middle lane. We're pretty much side by side except he's ~2 feet ahead of me, so there's no way I'm in his blind spot. Even if I was in his blind spot, I'm pretty damn sure I was in his peripheral vision. Either way, what I'm trying to say is he could fucking see me.
After driving about 30 seconds next to this guy something starts to go wrong. I see him slowly turn his car into me. At first, I thought, "Maybe this guy is just not paying too much attention. I should accelerate and GTFO of here," but he ends up accelerating with me. He's no doubt trying to overtake me and he has a faster car. He's driving a modded (at least cosmetically) Mercedes C63 and all I have is the 215 HP of a BMW 325xi. I realize that he wants to get into the left lane and I let off the gas. I don't want to cause shit this early in my morning commute with an asshole, but instead of overtaking me, he stops accelerating as I do and starts turning into me even more.
At this point, I'm furious and I just start beeping the horn hoping he was just being oblivious to his surroundings and would stop turning into me.. He could have either A) Accelerated and gone past me in 2 seconds or B) Chilled the fuck out and gotten behind me, but no, he just decides to turn into me like an asshole. To avoid a damn collision, I'm now with half of my car into the god damn left shoulder while he's with half his car into the left lane whilst turning into me still. At this point, I'm like, "wtf " and realize he's either fucking deaf since I've been beeping for the past 5 seconds or he's doing this shit on purpose. I finally hit the brakes (probably should have done this sooner, but I was trying to have some hope that he wasn't an asshole), and get back into the damn lane behind him.
Immediately after he gets into the damn left lane, he signals and goes right back in the middle lane! This is where he really pissed me off. If there were any god damn red lights on the highway, I would have followed him until he got to one and punched him in the face. What made all of this worse is that while I'm passing him in the left lane, I see him with his damn chin up and with a smug look on his face like he just accomplished his damn mission in life. I really, really, really wanted to just punch that asshole right in the throat.
And although no one did anything good for me, I did something cool for someone I guess. I was shopping for some stuff after I got out of school and saw another C63 (awesome car!). While I was checking out the aftermarket wheels, I saw a bulge in the car's tire. I don't know how an owner missed this, but you really don't want to drive with a bulge on the tire. Blowouts aren't fun, especially on a $60k+ car. I left a note for that person and hopefully that person heeds my warning. It made me feel like I did something good and I hope that person appreciates it. I also had an old man watching me the entire time I wrote the note and put it on the windshield. $20 says he got out of his car and went to read the note.
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Vatican City State2594 Posts
Good job man (: Keep your chin up and keep doing nice things despite the assholes out there. If I had a clean record though (or at least relatively clean atm) I would have let him hit me and have him pay me for damages, claim soft tissue damage (almost impossible to prove), have him pay for that, then have him repair his own damn car for being such a retard. I'm kind of a dick though so that might be just me.
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When that happens to me, I either: follow them and blast my horn - The whole way, who cares where I was going beforehand. OR Drive by him with a smile on my face, thanking him, he'll get so confused he'll crash into a pole and die immediately. Hope that helps. :D
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Yea sometimes dick drivers are like that. But worse than drivers like that are those who TALK ON THE PHONE WHILE HOLDING THEIR PHONE WITH ONE HAND or THOSE WITH HEADPHONES IN THEIR EARS.
These people honestly are terrible and are literally not even aware of the space around them.
Nice note though =)
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I swear driving is a better demonstration of a persons IQ than any standardised test.
In the UK the limit is 70mph ( most people drive 80-85 ). Anything other than offpeak hours it makes me rage so hard at the retardation I constantly see around me.
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On March 12 2011 04:21 Murderotica wrote: Good job man (: Keep your chin up and keep doing nice things despite the assholes out there. If I had a clean record though (or at least relatively clean atm) I would have let him hit me and have him pay me for damages, claim soft tissue damage (almost impossible to prove), have him pay for that, then have him repair his own damn car for being such a retard. I'm kind of a dick though so that might be just me.
The only problem with that is that here in the wonderful state of NJ, accidents like that are hit and and miss in terms of being the winner. Honestly, it crossed my to let him hit me, but it's up to the cop/trooper to decide who is at fault and they would most likely go for the younger guy (me) or just make it 50/50. Insurance is already a pain .
On March 12 2011 04:28 Antimage wrote: Yea sometimes dick drivers are like that. But worse than drivers like that are those who TALK ON THE PHONE WHILE HOLDING THEIR PHONE WITH ONE HAND or THOSE WITH HEADPHONES IN THEIR EARS.
These people honestly are terrible and are literally not even aware of the space around them.
Nice note though =)
Talking on the phone? How about texting? A neighbor of mine before I moved always texted while she drove. She ended up going right through the stop sign at our street because she wasn't paying attention. She got lucky and the car that could have hit her was being careful and stopped just in time. That still didn't teach her not to text. She still did it after that accident.
On March 12 2011 04:37 Luckbox wrote: I swear driving is a better demonstration of a persons IQ than any standardised test.
In the UK the limit is 70mph ( most people drive 80-85 ). Anything other than offpeak hours it makes me rage so hard at the retardation I constantly see around me.
Tell me about it. Some people are just not fit to drive, at all. Luckily, I haven't had many crappy experiences like this. I think the one that beats both of these though is when I was in the middle lane and two cars tried merging into my lane at the same time from the left and from the right. They were making a "me sandwich." That one got the heart pumping to be honest. I never drive in the middle lane anymore.
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Out of curiosity if you're on the freeway, why you driving only 60mph in the left lane? I hate people like you :o. But sounds like you encountered quite the retard, I've never had someone not hear my horn when I honk if they do that to me (not that it's happened much anyways).
EDIT: oh, highway
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On March 12 2011 04:42 FabledIntegral wrote: Out of curiosity if you're on the freeway, why you driving only 60mph in the left lane? I hate people like you :o. But sounds like you encountered quite the retard, I've never had someone not hear my horn when I honk if they do that to me (not that it's happened much anyways).
EDIT: oh, highway
Yah . Speed limit is 55 and there was actually moderate traffic. State troopers were all over the highway and have been for the past week, so everyone's been taking it easy on that road. Otherwise, everyone (myself included) drives 65.
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Austin10831 Posts
Yeah I hate other drivers, too. My friends call me Wheelman.
The other day I'm pulling off the freeway, with my usual style. I pull into a sick drift and cut the wheel hard, taking the off-ramp at a perfect trajectory, but as I whip through the arc nearly sideways, I see this asshole in a camry going like 35 MPH. ON THE OFF RAMP. So I steady my ride and pull her out of the drift like a seasoned pro, and I pull up along side him. It was only a one lane exit ramp so he nearly shit his pants. Then I gun it and pull out in front of him, rip the hand-brake and pull a clean 180º spin and start flying down the off-ramp backwards, never losing eye-contact with the camry driving yuppie. Finally we hit the end of the exit and I point to him and let him know I've got my eyes on him before pulling another flawless 180º spin and peeling out into traffic, leaving that joker in a cloud of smoke.
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On March 12 2011 04:46 BroOd wrote: Yeah I hate other drivers, too. My friends call me Wheelman.
The other day I'm pulling off the freeway, with my usual style. I pull into a sick drift and cut the wheel hard, taking the off-ramp at a perfect trajectory, but as I whip through the arc nearly sideways, I see this asshole in a camry going like 35 MPH. ON THE OFF RAMP. So I steady my ride and pull her out of the drift like a seasoned pro, and I pull up along side him. It was only a one lane exit ramp so he nearly shit his pants. Then I gun it and pull out in front of him, rip the hand-brake and pull a clean 180º spin and start flying down the off-ramp backwards, never losing eye-contact with the camry driving yuppie. Finally we hit the end of the exit and I point to him and let him know I've got my eyes on him before pulling another flawless 180º spin and peeling out into traffic, leaving that joker in a cloud of smoke.
If that's true, then PLEASE TEACH ME HOW TO DO THAT rofl
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You sound a lot like me on the road. I'm an incredibly calm person in most other aspects of life, but on the road people piss me off. I pretty much wish the worst upon people who don't signal, go out of their way not to let you into their lane, drive 10mph on a street where they can't be passed, don't signal before they turn, pull into the intersection even though there are pedestrians crossing the street, people who get angry at pedestrians crossing the street, etc.
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You think thats bad? I cycle and people try to overtake me IN THE SAME LANE.
WHAT THE FUCK?
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Yeah in New Jersey (not specifically referring to accidents here), the cops are especially nosy and always wait at the worst possible places to spring out and catch people. Therefore, you can never go too fast on the freeway or highway since the chances that you will get caught are so much higher. They especially like to wait at speedtraps where the speed limit drops for a short amount of time but many drivers are unaware of the change so they can levy big fines.
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On March 12 2011 04:14 Joementum wrote: Like I said before, I'm in the left lane just cruising at 60-62 mph.
Found your problem: stay out of the fast lane if you wanna drive like an old lady or if you're not passing
also, I am confused as how you toss out the luxury car comment as a BMW driver, even if it is old!
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On March 12 2011 04:41 Joementum wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 04:21 Murderotica wrote: Good job man (: Keep your chin up and keep doing nice things despite the assholes out there. If I had a clean record though (or at least relatively clean atm) I would have let him hit me and have him pay me for damages, claim soft tissue damage (almost impossible to prove), have him pay for that, then have him repair his own damn car for being such a retard. I'm kind of a dick though so that might be just me. The only problem with that is that here in the wonderful state of NJ, accidents like that are hit and and miss in terms of being the winner. Honestly, it crossed my to let him hit me, but it's up to the cop/trooper to decide who is at fault and they would most likely go for the younger guy (me) or just make it 50/50. Insurance is already a pain . Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 04:28 Antimage wrote: Yea sometimes dick drivers are like that. But worse than drivers like that are those who TALK ON THE PHONE WHILE HOLDING THEIR PHONE WITH ONE HAND or THOSE WITH HEADPHONES IN THEIR EARS.
These people honestly are terrible and are literally not even aware of the space around them.
Nice note though =) Talking on the phone? How about texting? A neighbor of mine before I moved always texted while she drove. She ended up going right through the stop sign at our street because she wasn't paying attention. She got lucky and the car that could have hit her was being careful and stopped just in time. That still didn't teach her not to text. She still did it after that accident. Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 04:37 Luckbox wrote: I swear driving is a better demonstration of a persons IQ than any standardised test.
In the UK the limit is 70mph ( most people drive 80-85 ). Anything other than offpeak hours it makes me rage so hard at the retardation I constantly see around me. Tell me about it. Some people are just not fit to drive, at all. Luckily, I haven't had many crappy experiences like this. I think the one that beats both of these though is when I was in the middle lane and two cars tried merging into my lane at the same time from the left and from the right. They were making a "me sandwich." That one got the heart pumping to be honest. I never drive in the middle lane anymore. I live in Jersey too. In my experience they are pretty smart about it. It's easy to tell who was ahead and who moved where simply by damage marks. I had a similar experience once.
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Dude where (in NJ) do you live that you see so many C63's? That must be heaven. I was in NY, NY the other day and saw so many S550 4matics that I couldn't help but drool at.
Perhaps AMG/M-drivers are general d-bags :-D
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On March 12 2011 05:09 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 04:14 Joementum wrote: Like I said before, I'm in the left lane just cruising at 60-62 mph. Found your problem: stay out of the fast lane if you wanna drive like an old lady or if you're not passing also, I am confused as how you toss out the luxury car comment as a BMW driver, even if it is old!
How was that my problem? =/ I was actually behind another car the entire time. I wasn't pacing a group of cars. Like I mentioned in a previous post, everyone was going 60-62 that day. The speed limit is 55 and state troopers were everywhere. I saw 3 of them just waiting to catch people in a 3 mile stretch. They've been going overboard with tickets lately. Usually, I see 1-2 people get pulled over a day, but since March started, it's been more like 6-7 people per day I see getting pulled over on my way to and from school.
Either way, my speed had nothing to do with what the guy did. O_o He was in the middle lane the entire time and just decided to go into my lane for no reason. And I said, "Not all of them! Just some!" in my post. I don't consider everyone that drives an expensive car an ass, but most of them truly are.
@Young - Bergen county. The one that was being an ass was on Rt-17 in Paramus. The other one was at the Paramus Park mall.
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The asshole from your story is one day gonna run into a bigger idiot who will pull out a gun and shoot him. That's why it's bad to be an idiot even tho it's fun.
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People in front or not, left is passing only. Given that the state is pinching pennies left and right (im nj too).
Trust me, I tested this theory as a smug 18 year old when a trooper kept on putting a light in my mirror when I was doing speed limit in the fast lane and not moving because I figured there's no way he can pull me over. Sure enough, it's illegal and they will ticket you!
dunno if he did that because you were in the fast lane when you shouldn't have been, but i'm just assuming since I know i'm hugely irrational prick when someone obstructs me from moving forward like that!
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On March 12 2011 05:38 Hawk wrote: People in front or not, left is passing only. Given that the state is pinching pennies left and right (im nj too).
Trust me, I tested this theory as a smug 18 year old when a trooper kept on putting a light in my mirror when I was doing speed limit in the fast lane and not moving because I figured there's no way he can pull me over. Sure enough, it's illegal and they will ticket you!
dunno if he did that because you were in the fast lane when you shouldn't have been, but i'm just assuming since I know i'm hugely irrational prick when someone obstructs me from moving forward like that!
Yeah, left is passing only, but when you're in a crowded highway that usually backs up and has you going 45 mph in a 55 because of traffic, all 3 lanes are usually full no matter what. If your at all familiar with Rt-17 in Paramus, you would know that all 3 lanes are used for just trying to get through. The left lane is hardly ever considered a passing lane in those traffic conditions. I just got lucky this morning and managed to drive a stretch of the road at 60'ish behind a couple of other cars. Usually, we're all going 45-50 because of the traffic.
I'm not trying to disagree with you or anything. I hate those people that block others in the left lane. I can assure you I'm not one of them . I used to do it when I was 18 too, because I didn't know any better, but now I do know better. Thinking back to it, I was actually a major douche bag. I remember once going 55 in the left lane and having all these cars behind me flashing their lights and me being "fuck off" and driving slowly. I really wish I knew how much of a douche I was being then. Haha. Oh well. I can't do anything about the past now.
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On March 12 2011 05:38 Hawk wrote: People in front or not, left is passing only. Given that the state is pinching pennies left and right (im nj too).
Trust me, I tested this theory as a smug 18 year old when a trooper kept on putting a light in my mirror when I was doing speed limit in the fast lane and not moving because I figured there's no way he can pull me over. Sure enough, it's illegal and they will ticket you!
dunno if he did that because you were in the fast lane when you shouldn't have been, but i'm just assuming since I know i'm hugely irrational prick when someone obstructs me from moving forward like that!
No, it's actually not illegal, at least not in California. The left lane is not for passing only, either. Or so the traffic school of California tells me, at least. The speed limit can almost in no circumstance ever be legally broken. If you're at 65, you're already at the "limit," which assumes normal traffic will be around or slower than that pace. If you consider the left lane the "passing lane" or "fast lane," you can still only go 65. You can't pass someone at 70 mph. It's supposed to be "oh, they're going 55 mph in front of me, so I'll pass them at 65 mph."
It's a joke, don't get me wrong, I just got a speeding ticket within the month at 83 mph, I'm just saying, it's definitely not illegal to go 65 in the left lane.
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yeah I saw the edit about 17 and that changed everything. I went to bergen for a year or so. Fuck that fucking stretch of highway.
e: to above, left is passing only in nj, even if people regularly use it otherwise. However, in this instance, the general drive etiquette is that you stay the hell out if you're not doing 80mph =]
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On March 12 2011 05:54 Hawk wrote: yeah I saw the edit about 17 and that changed everything. I went to bergen for a year or so. Fuck that fucking stretch of highway.
Be happy you don't have to take it every day =X. One accident can completely screw up your commute. It's absolutely ridiculous how bad it gets up here. One small fender bender this morning backed up 17-S (I was taking N) for almost 3 miles. When I passed by, I saw almost no damage at all to the cars, but they still didn't have the presence of mind to just move into the shoulder and let traffic flow.
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On March 12 2011 05:54 Hawk wrote: yeah I saw the edit about 17 and that changed everything. I went to bergen for a year or so. Fuck that fucking stretch of highway.
e: to above, left is passing only in nj, even if people regularly use it otherwise. However, in this instance, the general drive etiquette is that you stay the hell out if you're not doing 80mph =]
Oops, thought you meant as a general rule for... everywhere.
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I hate assholes like that too. I've always dreamed of one day chucking a coke from like McDonalds or something at their car.
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On March 12 2011 06:05 Robonord wrote: I hate assholes like that too. I've always dreamed of one day chucking a coke from like McDonalds or something at their car. One time there was this guy. He was following me on the NJT in his pick-up truck. I was in the right lane going about 65-70 mph. He was behind me. Then he started flashing his high beams at me. Mind you it is the middle of the night and the Turnpike is more or less empty (this is between exits 7-9 going North). After a minute of this, I just changed lanes to the left lane (there were only 2 lanes in this stretch). He changed right behind me and kept doing his light flashing thing. This is when I decided it was time for war.
I slowed down to 45 miles per hour in bursts of slamming my breaks. He would slam his breaks, and faithfully keep flashing his highlights the whole time. When we got to 45 mph he switched lanes, passed me, and got in front of me. This is when I sped up to his speed (65 mph) right behind him and started flashing MY highlights, and my highlights are fucking strong. Now HE started slowing down in bursts, and started swerving the car to block both lanes. Eventually he sped up to 80, to try to get away from me. I sped up and passed him, then slowed down to 65-70. This was a momentary peace.
He then merged in behind me and started tailgating me with the highlights on. That was when I'd had it. I started picking up empty cigarette packs off my floor (there were at least 7-10 of them) and I started throwing them over my car an watching them hit his windshield. He took a few of them before deciding to pass me and started doing the swerving shit again. So, I do the natural thing to do at this point, and I passed him from the right, half-way on the shoulder, maintaining speed with him for a moment to show him an empty glass Snapple bottle. I held the bottle out the window as I passed him and got in front of him, as if saying "Come on, try that highlight shit again faggot." Needless to say he calmed the fuck down.
Victory.
Unfortunately this story is true. The thing I still don't get is why he was so pissed at me. He just popped out of nowhere and got behind me and started being a dick. Probably drunk. Assholes in NJ, seriously. They made me into an asshole that night, if only for that night.
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Hyrule18789 Posts
The turnpike is an asshole magnet.
Keep Right Except to Pass is plastered all over, and yet people are still too retarded to keep right except to pass, but that's not even the worst part. What angers me the most is when people stop at YIELD signs. Especially when there's nothing coming.
This is especially bad on the southbound exit 56B on route 55. There's a yield just after a sharp curve at the top of a hill. It's quite easy to safely take this curve at 25mph and merge NO PROBLEM (what with the acceleration lane and all, and I've gone up this ramp at 60 no problem in the middle of the night) but for some reason people insist on stopping at the top of the hill. I've almost hit so many fucknuts there.
If you have ever stopped at a yield (particularly there) then I hate you with a firey passion of doomy doom.
[edit] Pilots are also awful drivers....always causing traffic jams and shit.
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On March 12 2011 06:22 Murderotica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 06:05 Robonord wrote: I hate assholes like that too. I've always dreamed of one day chucking a coke from like McDonalds or something at their car. One time there was this guy. He was following me on the NJT in his pick-up truck. I was in the right lane going about 65-70 mph. He was behind me. Then he started flashing his high beams at me. Mind you it is the middle of the night and the Turnpike is more or less empty (this is between exits 7-9 going North). After a minute of this, I just changed lanes to the left lane (there were only 2 lanes in this stretch). He changed right behind me and kept doing his light flashing thing. This is when I decided it was time for war. I slowed down to 45 miles per hour in bursts of slamming my breaks. He would slam his breaks, and faithfully keep flashing his highlights the whole time. When we got to 45 mph he switched lanes, passed me, and got in front of me. This is when I sped up to his speed (65 mph) right behind him and started flashing MY highlights, and my highlights are fucking strong. Now HE started slowing down in bursts, and started swerving the car to block both lanes. Eventually he sped up to 80, to try to get away from me. I sped up and passed him, then slowed down to 65-70. This was a momentary peace. He then merged in behind me and started tailgating me with the highlights on. That was when I'd had it. I started picking up empty cigarette packs off my floor (there were at least 7-10 of them) and I started throwing them over my car an watching them hit his windshield. He took a few of them before deciding to pass me and started doing the swerving shit again. So, I do the natural thing to do at this point, and I passed him from the right, half-way on the shoulder, maintaining speed with him for a moment to show him an empty glass Snapple bottle. I held the bottle out the window as I passed him and got in front of him, as if saying "Come on, try that highlight shit again faggot." Needless to say he calmed the fuck down. Victory. Unfortunately this story is true. The thing I still don't get is why he was so pissed at me. He just popped out of nowhere and got behind me and started being a dick. Probably drunk. Assholes in NJ, seriously. They made me into an asshole that night, if only for that night.
Well, flashing the highbeams is usually a signal to say something is wrong with your car. My immediate reaction would have been "alright, headlights are on, I don't see any smoke, tires are fine, I haven't been swerving, etc."
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On March 12 2011 06:22 Murderotica wrote: They made me into an asshole that night, if only for that night.
hmmmmmmm!
Yeah flashing headlights can be a lot of things. Behind you it's most often someone pissed at something you did
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Vatican City State2594 Posts
My car was definitely fine and I had been rolling up the turnpike for at least 50 miles on cruise control in the right lane, it is impossible for me to have done anything to that douche.
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On March 12 2011 06:36 tofucake wrote:
If you have ever stopped at a yield (particularly there) then I hate you with a firey passion of doomy doom.
Speaking of Yield signs... X_X There's this yield sign that everyone has to pass to get onto Rt-17 from my school every day. Every one stops at it. It makes no sense what so ever! It even has its own accelerating lane too.
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That's one of my biggest pet peeves. I've been in two accidents because mother fuckers don't know how to use acceleration lanes
road rage is awesome though. I'm sure I could have gotten myself in a fair amount of trouble for all the dumb things ive done in retaliation to stupidity on the road
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On March 12 2011 07:06 Hawk wrote: That's one of my biggest pet peeves. I've been in two accidents because mother fuckers don't know how to use acceleration lanes
road rage is awesome though. I'm sure I could have gotten myself in a fair amount of trouble for all the dumb things ive done in retaliation to stupidity on the road
What's an acceleration lane, if you don't mind me asking :X
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Basically instead of ramp to get onto the highway forcing you to gun it into traffic, there is several hundred feet of temp lane in front of you to get up to speed and merge smoothly
Sounds nice in practice, but because we let any breathing fuckstick get a license and don't do anything to ensure that little grandma can still see more than 10 feet in front of her and react accordingly, most people start going and unexpectedly slam the breaks for no reason. These things are basically traps for rear end accidents because of this
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On March 12 2011 07:20 Hawk wrote: Basically instead of ramp to get onto the highway forcing you to gun it into traffic, there is several hundred feet of temp lane in front of you to get up to speed and merge smoothly
Sounds nice in practice, but because we let any breathing fuckstick get a license and don't do anything to ensure that little grandma can still see more than 10 feet in front of her and react accordingly, most people start going and unexpectedly slam the breaks for no reason. These things are basically traps for rear end accidents because of this My other favorite is the people who completely ignore the yield sign in that situation. That yield sign still applies to you, fucktard, because you're not really on the highway yet. They just accelerate, get side by side with you, then try to merge into you and get pissed when you don't give them way. Like wtf? You are pissed at ME because I didn't let you merge in front of me from a yield-sign merge/acceleration lane, when I am on cruise control on the fucking highway? Fucking dipshits. It's almost as bad as when there are 2 roads merging and one has a yield sign, and people see you coming from the side, and refuse to yield anyways, and just gun it hoping to make it there before you do. Fucking pricks. "New Brunswick Exits" section of Rt. 18 N (off the side from the main highway) has like two of those. And guess what, it's college kids. Faggots.
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Actually, I thought of one that annoys me more. When you're making a left at an intersection and on the street you're trying to turn down, there's osmeone else trying to make a left. Why do these fuckers always try to go before you, even if there's no one on the street??? I love stopping in the middle there specifically so people who try this can't get by
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Vatican City State2594 Posts
On March 12 2011 07:34 Hawk wrote: Actually, I thought of one that annoys me more. When you're making a left at an intersection and on the street you're trying to turn down, there's osmeone else trying to make a left. Why do these fuckers always try to go before you, even if there's no one on the street??? I love stopping in the middle there specifically so people who try this can't get by Lol my girl JUST called me about this situation like 1 minute ago, crying about how dick all the other drivers are for not letting her go.
I can top you again, I think. You know when a 1-lane exit is backed up all the way onto the highway, and then there are those assholes who pass the whole line, then try to get in through the white-marked side of the exit? Fuck those people, I press up 3 inches behind the car in front of me and don't let them pass and make sure to block them for as long as possible while pointing and laughing.
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Yeaaaah, that was me every day driving home from Bergen hahahaha. I am also ruthless in not letting those people in, but that's a lot easier to do when you drive a beater that you don't care about :/
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On March 12 2011 07:43 Hawk wrote: Yeaaaah, that was me every day driving home from Bergen hahahaha. I am also ruthless in not letting those people in, but that's a lot easier to do when you drive a beater that you don't care about :/ At first I thought you were saying that that was you, trying to merge into the exit. To me that is like one of the most indicative actions of a person's overall personality. Scum needs to burn in hell.
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Hyrule18789 Posts
On March 12 2011 07:38 Murderotica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 07:34 Hawk wrote: Actually, I thought of one that annoys me more. When you're making a left at an intersection and on the street you're trying to turn down, there's osmeone else trying to make a left. Why do these fuckers always try to go before you, even if there's no one on the street??? I love stopping in the middle there specifically so people who try this can't get by Lol my girl JUST called me about this situation like 1 minute ago, crying about how dick all the other drivers are for not letting her go. I can top you again, I think. You know when a 1-lane exit is backed up all the way onto the highway, and then there are those assholes who pass the whole line, then try to get in through the white-marked side of the exit? Fuck those people, I press up 3 inches behind the car in front of me and don't let them pass and make sure to block them for as long as possible while pointing and laughing. There's an exact opposite situation on 95 S in PA which takes me an alternate way home from work. The Cottman Ave exit lane always goes quickly (obviously, since people aren't getting owned by traffic) so people will gun it down the lane, even though it says every half mile for 2 miles (basically 4 times) that it's an exit only lane, and then at the split they will try to get back into the right lane, which, since there's traffic, isn't moving at all and as a result now the exit lane backs up.
I hate those pricks.
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On March 12 2011 07:29 Murderotica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 07:20 Hawk wrote: Basically instead of ramp to get onto the highway forcing you to gun it into traffic, there is several hundred feet of temp lane in front of you to get up to speed and merge smoothly
Sounds nice in practice, but because we let any breathing fuckstick get a license and don't do anything to ensure that little grandma can still see more than 10 feet in front of her and react accordingly, most people start going and unexpectedly slam the breaks for no reason. These things are basically traps for rear end accidents because of this My other favorite is the people who completely ignore the yield sign in that situation. That yield sign still applies to you, fucktard, because you're not really on the highway yet. They just accelerate, get side by side with you, then try to merge into you and get pissed when you don't give them way. Like wtf? You are pissed at ME because I didn't let you merge in front of me from a yield-sign merge/acceleration lane, when I am on cruise control on the fucking highway? Fucking dipshits. It's almost as bad as when there are 2 roads merging and one has a yield sign, and people see you coming from the side, and refuse to yield anyways, and just gun it hoping to make it there before you do. Fucking pricks. "New Brunswick Exits" section of Rt. 18 N (off the side from the main highway) has like two of those. And guess what, it's college kids. Faggots.
I am one of the more aggressive drivers, always passing people that are holding me up at 75mph, but nothing annoys me more than people like you who don't at least put in some effort to let people merge. They have to merge SOMEHOW, and if you have to slow down slightly, then do it. It's not like they are being a dick and cutting you off, but rather they HAVE to get in before their lane stops. There is only so much space in between cars to get over, I will always try to gun it so you don't have to slow down but if you're not leaving over a car length in the first place for me to get over, and the person behind you is doing the same, then NO one can get over, backing up the entire merging lane.
Personally, the way I see it, if you're too much of a dick to let people merge in, you shouldn't be driving next a the lane that's merging. I have no problem gunning it up to 90 so you don't have to slow down, but sometimes there simply isn't a method where you won't have to slow down without completely fucking up traffic.
Just personal opinion.
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On March 12 2011 08:09 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 07:29 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 07:20 Hawk wrote: Basically instead of ramp to get onto the highway forcing you to gun it into traffic, there is several hundred feet of temp lane in front of you to get up to speed and merge smoothly
Sounds nice in practice, but because we let any breathing fuckstick get a license and don't do anything to ensure that little grandma can still see more than 10 feet in front of her and react accordingly, most people start going and unexpectedly slam the breaks for no reason. These things are basically traps for rear end accidents because of this My other favorite is the people who completely ignore the yield sign in that situation. That yield sign still applies to you, fucktard, because you're not really on the highway yet. They just accelerate, get side by side with you, then try to merge into you and get pissed when you don't give them way. Like wtf? You are pissed at ME because I didn't let you merge in front of me from a yield-sign merge/acceleration lane, when I am on cruise control on the fucking highway? Fucking dipshits. It's almost as bad as when there are 2 roads merging and one has a yield sign, and people see you coming from the side, and refuse to yield anyways, and just gun it hoping to make it there before you do. Fucking pricks. "New Brunswick Exits" section of Rt. 18 N (off the side from the main highway) has like two of those. And guess what, it's college kids. Faggots. I am one of the more aggressive drivers, always passing people that are holding me up at 75mph, but nothing annoys me more than people like you who don't at least put in some effort to let people merge. They have to merge SOMEHOW, and if you have to slow down slightly, then do it. It's not like they are being a dick and cutting you off, but rather they HAVE to get in before their lane stops. There is only so much space in between cars to get over, I will always try to gun it so you don't have to slow down but if you're not leaving over a car length in the first place for me to get over, and the person behind you is doing the same, then NO one can get over, backing up the entire merging lane. Personally, the way I see it, if you're too much of a dick to let people merge in, you shouldn't be driving next a the lane that's merging. I have no problem gunning it up to 90 so you don't have to slow down, but sometimes there simply isn't a method where you won't have to slow down without completely fucking up traffic. Just personal opinion. I'm not asking for those people to go 90 or 40, a 5 mph difference should be sufficient for the duration of the stretch (in my experience). I am not accelerating to stop them from entering nor am I slowing down. I am just going on cruise control (I drive on cruise control 90% of the time that it is practical), a little above speed limit. A constant factor on the highway, not some free radical that you have to figure out and try to predict. I never have problems merging in because you have to time it appropriately with the traffic, which is easy when people are going a more or less constant speed. It's the people who use the acceleration lane to actually try to pass people that are retarded, because you're not supposed to be going 75 or whatever in that lane. It is more or less expected that you are going slower than the traffic you are entering, up until the point where you actually merge, and then you usually give a burst of an additional 5-10 mph to fit in the natural space between 2 cars and join rhythm. The moment you said you were an aggressive driver it ruined your argument in my eyes. Merging into the highway is not the time to be aggressive (EDIT: there are of course exceptions to this rule, but that is what they are - exceptions).
This isn't just my opinion - I worked as a driver before so these are things you learn in training.
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On March 12 2011 08:24 Murderotica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 08:09 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 12 2011 07:29 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 07:20 Hawk wrote: Basically instead of ramp to get onto the highway forcing you to gun it into traffic, there is several hundred feet of temp lane in front of you to get up to speed and merge smoothly
Sounds nice in practice, but because we let any breathing fuckstick get a license and don't do anything to ensure that little grandma can still see more than 10 feet in front of her and react accordingly, most people start going and unexpectedly slam the breaks for no reason. These things are basically traps for rear end accidents because of this My other favorite is the people who completely ignore the yield sign in that situation. That yield sign still applies to you, fucktard, because you're not really on the highway yet. They just accelerate, get side by side with you, then try to merge into you and get pissed when you don't give them way. Like wtf? You are pissed at ME because I didn't let you merge in front of me from a yield-sign merge/acceleration lane, when I am on cruise control on the fucking highway? Fucking dipshits. It's almost as bad as when there are 2 roads merging and one has a yield sign, and people see you coming from the side, and refuse to yield anyways, and just gun it hoping to make it there before you do. Fucking pricks. "New Brunswick Exits" section of Rt. 18 N (off the side from the main highway) has like two of those. And guess what, it's college kids. Faggots. I am one of the more aggressive drivers, always passing people that are holding me up at 75mph, but nothing annoys me more than people like you who don't at least put in some effort to let people merge. They have to merge SOMEHOW, and if you have to slow down slightly, then do it. It's not like they are being a dick and cutting you off, but rather they HAVE to get in before their lane stops. There is only so much space in between cars to get over, I will always try to gun it so you don't have to slow down but if you're not leaving over a car length in the first place for me to get over, and the person behind you is doing the same, then NO one can get over, backing up the entire merging lane. Personally, the way I see it, if you're too much of a dick to let people merge in, you shouldn't be driving next a the lane that's merging. I have no problem gunning it up to 90 so you don't have to slow down, but sometimes there simply isn't a method where you won't have to slow down without completely fucking up traffic. Just personal opinion. I'm not asking for those people to go 90 or 40, a 5 mph difference should be sufficient for the duration of the stretch (in my experience). I am not accelerating to stop them from entering nor am I slowing down. I am just going on cruise control (I drive on cruise control 90% of the time that it is practical), a little above speed limit. A constant factor on the highway, not some free radical that you have to figure out and try to predict. I never have problems merging in because you have to time it appropriately with the traffic, which is easy when people are going a more or less constant speed. It's the people who use the acceleration lane to actually try to pass people that are retarded, because you're not supposed to be going 75 or whatever in that lane. It is more or less expected that you are going slower than the traffic you are entering, up until the point where you actually merge, and then you usually give a burst of an additional 5-10 mph to fit in the natural space between 2 cars and join rhythm. The moment you said you were an aggressive driver it more or less ruined your argument. Merging into the highway is not the time to be aggressive. This isn't just my opinion - I worked as a driver before so these are things you learn in training.
In California everyone tailgates on the freeway, mostly in the left lanes but often in the right lanes as well, so there's no way to get onto the freeway without asserting yourself and hoping someone slows down to let you in.
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On March 12 2011 08:26 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 08:24 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 08:09 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 12 2011 07:29 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 07:20 Hawk wrote: Basically instead of ramp to get onto the highway forcing you to gun it into traffic, there is several hundred feet of temp lane in front of you to get up to speed and merge smoothly
Sounds nice in practice, but because we let any breathing fuckstick get a license and don't do anything to ensure that little grandma can still see more than 10 feet in front of her and react accordingly, most people start going and unexpectedly slam the breaks for no reason. These things are basically traps for rear end accidents because of this My other favorite is the people who completely ignore the yield sign in that situation. That yield sign still applies to you, fucktard, because you're not really on the highway yet. They just accelerate, get side by side with you, then try to merge into you and get pissed when you don't give them way. Like wtf? You are pissed at ME because I didn't let you merge in front of me from a yield-sign merge/acceleration lane, when I am on cruise control on the fucking highway? Fucking dipshits. It's almost as bad as when there are 2 roads merging and one has a yield sign, and people see you coming from the side, and refuse to yield anyways, and just gun it hoping to make it there before you do. Fucking pricks. "New Brunswick Exits" section of Rt. 18 N (off the side from the main highway) has like two of those. And guess what, it's college kids. Faggots. I am one of the more aggressive drivers, always passing people that are holding me up at 75mph, but nothing annoys me more than people like you who don't at least put in some effort to let people merge. They have to merge SOMEHOW, and if you have to slow down slightly, then do it. It's not like they are being a dick and cutting you off, but rather they HAVE to get in before their lane stops. There is only so much space in between cars to get over, I will always try to gun it so you don't have to slow down but if you're not leaving over a car length in the first place for me to get over, and the person behind you is doing the same, then NO one can get over, backing up the entire merging lane. Personally, the way I see it, if you're too much of a dick to let people merge in, you shouldn't be driving next a the lane that's merging. I have no problem gunning it up to 90 so you don't have to slow down, but sometimes there simply isn't a method where you won't have to slow down without completely fucking up traffic. Just personal opinion. I'm not asking for those people to go 90 or 40, a 5 mph difference should be sufficient for the duration of the stretch (in my experience). I am not accelerating to stop them from entering nor am I slowing down. I am just going on cruise control (I drive on cruise control 90% of the time that it is practical), a little above speed limit. A constant factor on the highway, not some free radical that you have to figure out and try to predict. I never have problems merging in because you have to time it appropriately with the traffic, which is easy when people are going a more or less constant speed. It's the people who use the acceleration lane to actually try to pass people that are retarded, because you're not supposed to be going 75 or whatever in that lane. It is more or less expected that you are going slower than the traffic you are entering, up until the point where you actually merge, and then you usually give a burst of an additional 5-10 mph to fit in the natural space between 2 cars and join rhythm. The moment you said you were an aggressive driver it more or less ruined your argument. Merging into the highway is not the time to be aggressive. This isn't just my opinion - I worked as a driver before so these are things you learn in training. In California everyone tailgates on the freeway, mostly in the left lanes but often in the right lanes as well, so there's no way to get onto the freeway without asserting yourself and hoping someone slows down to let you in. I'm fine with slowing down as long as that person was initially ahead of me. The purpose of the yield sign is for you to YIELD to people already on the road. Which means, if you come out onto the acceleration lane side-by-side with another car, it is not your goal to overtake them, but to merge in behind them. I find it hard to believe that people tailgate to the point of not having a car's length in between but still moving around speed limit. When traffic is moving below speed limit due to congestion, that is a different story. I was talking about the situations where there is plenty of space and people still try to prove they have the bigger penis by trying to pass you despite the yield sign.
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I find it hard to believe that people tailgate to the point of not having a car's length in between but still moving around speed limit
ahahahaha try 10-15 mph over the speed limit, fuck driving in CA.
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On March 12 2011 08:36 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +I find it hard to believe that people tailgate to the point of not having a car's length in between but still moving around speed limit ahahahaha try 10-15 mph over the speed limit, fuck driving in CA. Damn... That sounds terrible haha. And I thought NJ had it bad. I bet if you put a CA driver in NJ they would come out of it with a new mindset considering there is traffic everywhere and speeding is not an option a lot of the time. If you sent an NJ driver to CA he would probably crash due to road rage.
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On March 12 2011 08:24 Murderotica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 08:09 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 12 2011 07:29 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 07:20 Hawk wrote: Basically instead of ramp to get onto the highway forcing you to gun it into traffic, there is several hundred feet of temp lane in front of you to get up to speed and merge smoothly
Sounds nice in practice, but because we let any breathing fuckstick get a license and don't do anything to ensure that little grandma can still see more than 10 feet in front of her and react accordingly, most people start going and unexpectedly slam the breaks for no reason. These things are basically traps for rear end accidents because of this My other favorite is the people who completely ignore the yield sign in that situation. That yield sign still applies to you, fucktard, because you're not really on the highway yet. They just accelerate, get side by side with you, then try to merge into you and get pissed when you don't give them way. Like wtf? You are pissed at ME because I didn't let you merge in front of me from a yield-sign merge/acceleration lane, when I am on cruise control on the fucking highway? Fucking dipshits. It's almost as bad as when there are 2 roads merging and one has a yield sign, and people see you coming from the side, and refuse to yield anyways, and just gun it hoping to make it there before you do. Fucking pricks. "New Brunswick Exits" section of Rt. 18 N (off the side from the main highway) has like two of those. And guess what, it's college kids. Faggots. I am one of the more aggressive drivers, always passing people that are holding me up at 75mph, but nothing annoys me more than people like you who don't at least put in some effort to let people merge. They have to merge SOMEHOW, and if you have to slow down slightly, then do it. It's not like they are being a dick and cutting you off, but rather they HAVE to get in before their lane stops. There is only so much space in between cars to get over, I will always try to gun it so you don't have to slow down but if you're not leaving over a car length in the first place for me to get over, and the person behind you is doing the same, then NO one can get over, backing up the entire merging lane. Personally, the way I see it, if you're too much of a dick to let people merge in, you shouldn't be driving next a the lane that's merging. I have no problem gunning it up to 90 so you don't have to slow down, but sometimes there simply isn't a method where you won't have to slow down without completely fucking up traffic. Just personal opinion. I'm not asking for those people to go 90 or 40, a 5 mph difference should be sufficient for the duration of the stretch (in my experience). I am not accelerating to stop them from entering nor am I slowing down. I am just going on cruise control (I drive on cruise control 90% of the time that it is practical), a little above speed limit. A constant factor on the highway, not some free radical that you have to figure out and try to predict. I never have problems merging in because you have to time it appropriately with the traffic, which is easy when people are going a more or less constant speed. It's the people who use the acceleration lane to actually try to pass people that are retarded, because you're not supposed to be going 75 or whatever in that lane. It is more or less expected that you are going slower than the traffic you are entering, up until the point where you actually merge, and then you usually give a burst of an additional 5-10 mph to fit in the natural space between 2 cars and join rhythm. The moment you said you were an aggressive driver it ruined your argument in my eyes. Merging into the highway is not the time to be aggressive (EDIT: there are of course exceptions to this rule, but that is what they are - exceptions). This isn't just my opinion - I worked as a driver before so these are things you learn in training.
I wasn't referring to being aggressive while merging in. I was referring more so to traffic related situations when it's hard to merge in, when I'm merging in onto the freeway on my way home from work, while not one of these confounded acceleration lanes you speak of, it's an absolute BITCH to merge over in. If you were going 70 mph it only gives you 10 seconds to merge over, which seems like a lot, but it doesn't end with a sort of "forced merge" onto the freeway, but it's actually an exit lane. So you have to find a way to get over, while other people are trying to get into your lane at the same time. And since it's a double exit lanes, you have to get over TWICE in that stretch otherwise you end up exiting. It's a retarded setup. And since I get off work at 6:00 pm often, I'm dealing with rush hour traffic. People drive so close to each other you CAN'T merge UNLESS someone lets you over, which people do. I always give priority to the mergers in this situation and rage when people don't hit their own brakes to let me over.
That's my image of what you guys were discussing, but I realize that it's actually a different situation, and the part in bold you were also describing something differently.
I find it hard to believe that people tailgate to the point of not having a car's length in between but still moving around speed limit
California, have fun. If you're going less than 80 mph in the left lane (15mph over) expect to get passed by everyone else and most likely get honked at if you stay there at 10mph over. My friend, from LA, drives less than a car length behind, and it scares the shit out of me. Most people leave slightly over a car length I'd say, but it's still pretty damn close.
EDIT: Even the slow lanes drive over the speed limit, haha. Usually the slowest lanes are driving around 70mph.
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On March 12 2011 08:46 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 08:24 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 08:09 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 12 2011 07:29 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 07:20 Hawk wrote: Basically instead of ramp to get onto the highway forcing you to gun it into traffic, there is several hundred feet of temp lane in front of you to get up to speed and merge smoothly
Sounds nice in practice, but because we let any breathing fuckstick get a license and don't do anything to ensure that little grandma can still see more than 10 feet in front of her and react accordingly, most people start going and unexpectedly slam the breaks for no reason. These things are basically traps for rear end accidents because of this My other favorite is the people who completely ignore the yield sign in that situation. That yield sign still applies to you, fucktard, because you're not really on the highway yet. They just accelerate, get side by side with you, then try to merge into you and get pissed when you don't give them way. Like wtf? You are pissed at ME because I didn't let you merge in front of me from a yield-sign merge/acceleration lane, when I am on cruise control on the fucking highway? Fucking dipshits. It's almost as bad as when there are 2 roads merging and one has a yield sign, and people see you coming from the side, and refuse to yield anyways, and just gun it hoping to make it there before you do. Fucking pricks. "New Brunswick Exits" section of Rt. 18 N (off the side from the main highway) has like two of those. And guess what, it's college kids. Faggots. I am one of the more aggressive drivers, always passing people that are holding me up at 75mph, but nothing annoys me more than people like you who don't at least put in some effort to let people merge. They have to merge SOMEHOW, and if you have to slow down slightly, then do it. It's not like they are being a dick and cutting you off, but rather they HAVE to get in before their lane stops. There is only so much space in between cars to get over, I will always try to gun it so you don't have to slow down but if you're not leaving over a car length in the first place for me to get over, and the person behind you is doing the same, then NO one can get over, backing up the entire merging lane. Personally, the way I see it, if you're too much of a dick to let people merge in, you shouldn't be driving next a the lane that's merging. I have no problem gunning it up to 90 so you don't have to slow down, but sometimes there simply isn't a method where you won't have to slow down without completely fucking up traffic. Just personal opinion. I'm not asking for those people to go 90 or 40, a 5 mph difference should be sufficient for the duration of the stretch (in my experience). I am not accelerating to stop them from entering nor am I slowing down. I am just going on cruise control (I drive on cruise control 90% of the time that it is practical), a little above speed limit. A constant factor on the highway, not some free radical that you have to figure out and try to predict. I never have problems merging in because you have to time it appropriately with the traffic, which is easy when people are going a more or less constant speed. It's the people who use the acceleration lane to actually try to pass people that are retarded, because you're not supposed to be going 75 or whatever in that lane. It is more or less expected that you are going slower than the traffic you are entering, up until the point where you actually merge, and then you usually give a burst of an additional 5-10 mph to fit in the natural space between 2 cars and join rhythm. The moment you said you were an aggressive driver it ruined your argument in my eyes. Merging into the highway is not the time to be aggressive (EDIT: there are of course exceptions to this rule, but that is what they are - exceptions). This isn't just my opinion - I worked as a driver before so these are things you learn in training. I wasn't referring to being aggressive while merging in. I was referring more so to traffic related situations when it's hard to merge in, when I'm merging in onto the freeway on my way home from work, while not one of these confounded acceleration lanes you speak of, it's an absolute BITCH to merge over in. If you were going 70 mph it only gives you 10 seconds to merge over, which seems like a lot, but it doesn't end with a sort of "forced merge" onto the freeway, but it's actually an exit lane. So you have to find a way to get over, while other people are trying to get into your lane at the same time. And since it's a double exit lanes, you have to get over TWICE in that stretch otherwise you end up exiting. It's a retarded setup. And since I get off work at 6:00 pm often, I'm dealing with rush hour traffic. People drive so close to each other you CAN'T merge UNLESS someone lets you over, which people do. I always give priority to the mergers in this situation and rage when people don't hit their own brakes to let me over. That's my image of what you guys were discussing, but I realize that it's actually a different situation, and the part in bold you were also describing something differently. Show nested quote +I find it hard to believe that people tailgate to the point of not having a car's length in between but still moving around speed limit California, have fun. If you're going less than 80 mph in the left lane (15mph over) expect to get passed by everyone else and most likely get honked at if you stay there at 10mph over. My friend, from LA, drives less than a car length behind, and it scares the shit out of me. Most people leave slightly over a car length I'd say, but it's still pretty damn close. EDIT: Even the slow lanes drive over the speed limit, haha. Usually the slowest lanes are driving around 70mph. Ah I see. That is a pain in the ass indeed, and different from what I had in mind lol. I don't know how I'd handle that, I don't think I've ever seen a single lane merge into a double lane exit in my life lol.
In NJ the left lane is similar but on most highways people are pretty civil in the right lane, at least when there isn't much traffic. You are expected to go speed limit or more, but if you aren't then you just get passed and it's not hard to do so since the other lanes are going above speed limit. Most of the time xP
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This thread makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only one that gets irked by these things.
One thing that always makes me laugh is those drivers that will tailgate you hard and then make this emphatic move to pass you and you see their car jerk to the side and jerk back and it seems like you were completely in their way, only to have the car in the lane they merge into slow down as well and you speed right past.
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On March 12 2011 08:59 Robonord wrote:This thread makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only one that gets irked by these things. One thing that always makes me laugh is those drivers that will tailgate you hard and then make this emphatic move to pass you and you see their car jerk to the side and jerk back and it seems like you were completely in their way, only to have the car in the lane they merge into slow down as well and you speed right past.
In all fairness if you're holding up traffic in the left lane there is little to no reason why you shouldn't move over. If I'm ever tailgated, the first thing I do is check my speed. If I'm going like 70mph in the left lane, I will either immediately up my speed, feeling dumb, or signal to the right and let the person pass. I let people pass me all the time with myself doing the one moving over, no shame there, and I expect people to do the same for me if I'm somewhat tailgating them (I never get right on people's ass because I'm too scared they'll hit the brakes, just close enough to let them know "hey, I want to pass you!").
PS. Not trying to incite flames in this topic, just giving people a heads up on possibly a different perspective.
PSS. What's the absolute WORST is when you're in the carpool lane and going 5-10 mph slower than the "left" fast lane (the lane to the right of you).
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On March 12 2011 07:29 Murderotica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 07:20 Hawk wrote: Basically instead of ramp to get onto the highway forcing you to gun it into traffic, there is several hundred feet of temp lane in front of you to get up to speed and merge smoothly
Sounds nice in practice, but because we let any breathing fuckstick get a license and don't do anything to ensure that little grandma can still see more than 10 feet in front of her and react accordingly, most people start going and unexpectedly slam the breaks for no reason. These things are basically traps for rear end accidents because of this My other favorite is the people who completely ignore the yield sign in that situation. That yield sign still applies to you, fucktard, because you're not really on the highway yet. They just accelerate, get side by side with you, then try to merge into you and get pissed when you don't give them way. Like wtf? You are pissed at ME because I didn't let you merge in front of me from a yield-sign merge/acceleration lane, when I am on cruise control on the fucking highway? Fucking dipshits. It's almost as bad as when there are 2 roads merging and one has a yield sign, and people see you coming from the side, and refuse to yield anyways, and just gun it hoping to make it there before you do. Fucking pricks. "New Brunswick Exits" section of Rt. 18 N (off the side from the main highway) has like two of those. And guess what, it's college kids. Faggots.
This is why I love having a semi-fast car. I love gunning it in 2nd until I hit 60 mph and am way past all the cars . I get out of everyone's way quickly. To be honest, my biggest fear when driving is being around way too many people especially on entrances/exits to the high way. That is when driver's are at their worst.
On March 12 2011 08:59 Robonord wrote:This thread makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only one that gets irked by these things. One thing that always makes me laugh is those drivers that will tailgate you hard and then make this emphatic move to pass you and you see their car jerk to the side and jerk back and it seems like you were completely in their way, only to have the car in the lane they merge into slow down as well and you speed right past.
That happens every single day here. People try to weave in and out of traffic to get ahead of everyone and end up getting back into the same exact spot they started it. Don't worry about the road rage. You're definitely not the only one. I'll be downright honest and say that I have lost my voice once from all the yelling I did at once guy. I'm sure me singing along to the metal I was playing had something to do with it too, but the screaming at the guy definitely made it worse.
Edit - More like screaming at my windshield since it was damn cold and my windows were down. Haha.
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On March 12 2011 09:16 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 08:59 Robonord wrote:This thread makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only one that gets irked by these things. One thing that always makes me laugh is those drivers that will tailgate you hard and then make this emphatic move to pass you and you see their car jerk to the side and jerk back and it seems like you were completely in their way, only to have the car in the lane they merge into slow down as well and you speed right past. In all fairness if you're holding up traffic in the left lane there is little to no reason why you shouldn't move over. If I'm ever tailgated, the first thing I do is check my speed. If I'm going like 70mph in the left lane, I will either immediately up my speed, feeling dumb, or signal to the right and let the person pass. I let people pass me all the time with myself doing the one moving over, no shame there, and I expect people to do the same for me if I'm somewhat tailgating them (I never get right on people's ass because I'm too scared they'll hit the brakes, just close enough to let them know "hey, I want to pass you!"). PS. Not trying to incite flames in this topic, just giving people a heads up on possibly a different perspective. PSS. What's the absolute WORST is when you're in the carpool lane and going 5-10 mph slower than the "left" fast lane (the lane to the right of you). I agree with the fact that you should move over if people are tailgating you, regardless of whether you are going a decent speed or not (however if you are a bad driver than just do what you are more comfortable with, within reason). But I try to never tailgate people unless there is no option of passing them, in which case I am telling them to speed up a notch. I let people know that "hey I want to pass you!" by passing them lol. I don't feel good when people tailgate me, so I try not to do it to others.
~JoeMentum: Problem with that approach (if you were not initially ahead, of course) is what if the other dude decides to gun it too? Sometimes people do stupid shit in situations like that where both people accelerate. I heard people say that they see it as a challenge on the road and turn it into a game of chicken. I am like, "What the fuck? There are people this stupid?" And yes, yes there are.
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On March 12 2011 04:46 BroOd wrote: Yeah I hate other drivers, too. My friends call me Wheelman.
The other day I'm pulling off the freeway, with my usual style. I pull into a sick drift and cut the wheel hard, taking the off-ramp at a perfect trajectory, but as I whip through the arc nearly sideways, I see this asshole in a camry going like 35 MPH. ON THE OFF RAMP. So I steady my ride and pull her out of the drift like a seasoned pro, and I pull up along side him. It was only a one lane exit ramp so he nearly shit his pants. Then I gun it and pull out in front of him, rip the hand-brake and pull a clean 180º spin and start flying down the off-ramp backwards, never losing eye-contact with the camry driving yuppie. Finally we hit the end of the exit and I point to him and let him know I've got my eyes on him before pulling another flawless 180º spin and peeling out into traffic, leaving that joker in a cloud of smoke.
Quoting this post because I feel it deserves more attention.
Also, I hate people that can't pick one speed. They're going 60 one minute and I pass them... then five minutes later they're doing 90 flying by me. Rinse and repeat for the next hour.
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On March 12 2011 09:29 Murderotica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 09:16 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 12 2011 08:59 Robonord wrote:This thread makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only one that gets irked by these things. One thing that always makes me laugh is those drivers that will tailgate you hard and then make this emphatic move to pass you and you see their car jerk to the side and jerk back and it seems like you were completely in their way, only to have the car in the lane they merge into slow down as well and you speed right past. In all fairness if you're holding up traffic in the left lane there is little to no reason why you shouldn't move over. If I'm ever tailgated, the first thing I do is check my speed. If I'm going like 70mph in the left lane, I will either immediately up my speed, feeling dumb, or signal to the right and let the person pass. I let people pass me all the time with myself doing the one moving over, no shame there, and I expect people to do the same for me if I'm somewhat tailgating them (I never get right on people's ass because I'm too scared they'll hit the brakes, just close enough to let them know "hey, I want to pass you!"). PS. Not trying to incite flames in this topic, just giving people a heads up on possibly a different perspective. PSS. What's the absolute WORST is when you're in the carpool lane and going 5-10 mph slower than the "left" fast lane (the lane to the right of you). I agree with the fact that you should move over if people are tailgating you, regardless of whether you are going a decent speed or not (however if you are a bad driver than just do what you are more comfortable with, within reason). But I try to never tailgate people unless there is no option of passing them, in which case I am telling them to speed up a notch. I let people know that "hey I want to pass you!" by passing them lol. I don't feel good when people tailgate me, so I try not to do it to others. ~ JoeMentum: Problem with that approach (if you were not initially ahead, of course) is what if the other dude decides to gun it too? Sometimes people do stupid shit in situations like that where both people accelerate. I heard people say that they see it as a challenge on the road and turn it into a game of chicken. I am like, "What the fuck? There are people this stupid?" And yes, yes there are.
Concerning the bold, my bad, I should have clarified it was if I don't have the opportunity to pass.
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besides 17 in paramus where it's like 24.7 traffic, where do people NOT speed in NJ??
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Vatican City State2594 Posts
On March 13 2011 00:21 Hawk wrote: besides 17 in paramus where it's like 24.7 traffic, where do people NOT speed in NJ?? Anywhere during rush hour, which is when most people drive (durr). Our state too small for the population.
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On March 12 2011 04:46 BroOd wrote: Yeah I hate other drivers, too. My friends call me Wheelman.
The other day I'm pulling off the freeway, with my usual style. I pull into a sick drift and cut the wheel hard, taking the off-ramp at a perfect trajectory, but as I whip through the arc nearly sideways, I see this asshole in a camry going like 35 MPH. ON THE OFF RAMP. So I steady my ride and pull her out of the drift like a seasoned pro, and I pull up along side him. It was only a one lane exit ramp so he nearly shit his pants. Then I gun it and pull out in front of him, rip the hand-brake and pull a clean 180º spin and start flying down the off-ramp backwards, never losing eye-contact with the camry driving yuppie. Finally we hit the end of the exit and I point to him and let him know I've got my eyes on him before pulling another flawless 180º spin and peeling out into traffic, leaving that joker in a cloud of smoke. My god. This is amazing. Pure poetry. The drifting and the writing. (So good that I needed to chop up my words)
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Hmm, I don't really dislike any type of drivers in particular, except for the cell phone holding makeup-doing soccer mom in an escalade tailgating me @ 75 mph. Luckily those are pretty rare, so the road is a happy experience for me.
I try to signal and never go 10 mph above the limit and everything ^_^
What I don't understand is superagressive driving. If I'm going somewhere on a freeway and there's moderate traffic, I just stay in one of the middle lanes until my exit. I see sooooooooo many people try to weave in lanes and tailgate other people at less than 5 feet and 10 miles later I see that same car side by side with me or maybe 50 feet ahead.
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On March 13 2011 13:43 Sadistx wrote: Hmm, I don't really dislike any type of drivers in particular, except for the cell phone holding makeup-doing soccer mom in an escalade tailgating me @ 75 mph. Luckily those are pretty rare, so the road is a happy experience for me.
I try to signal and never go 10 mph above the limit and everything ^_^
What I don't understand is superagressive driving. If I'm going somewhere on a freeway and there's moderate traffic, I just stay in one of the middle lanes until my exit. I see sooooooooo many people try to weave in lanes and tailgate other people at less than 5 feet and 10 miles later I see that same car side by side with me or maybe 50 feet ahead. That's because someone had your mentality only in the left lane, and other people don't know when to GTFO of the left lane, so everyone who drives fast gets slowed down and stuck. If people would just stay the hell out of the left lane, you'd never see them again.
But no, they HAVE to get in the way. It's so annoying ><
On March 12 2011 08:54 Murderotica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 08:46 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 12 2011 08:24 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 08:09 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 12 2011 07:29 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 07:20 Hawk wrote: Basically instead of ramp to get onto the highway forcing you to gun it into traffic, there is several hundred feet of temp lane in front of you to get up to speed and merge smoothly
Sounds nice in practice, but because we let any breathing fuckstick get a license and don't do anything to ensure that little grandma can still see more than 10 feet in front of her and react accordingly, most people start going and unexpectedly slam the breaks for no reason. These things are basically traps for rear end accidents because of this My other favorite is the people who completely ignore the yield sign in that situation. That yield sign still applies to you, fucktard, because you're not really on the highway yet. They just accelerate, get side by side with you, then try to merge into you and get pissed when you don't give them way. Like wtf? You are pissed at ME because I didn't let you merge in front of me from a yield-sign merge/acceleration lane, when I am on cruise control on the fucking highway? Fucking dipshits. It's almost as bad as when there are 2 roads merging and one has a yield sign, and people see you coming from the side, and refuse to yield anyways, and just gun it hoping to make it there before you do. Fucking pricks. "New Brunswick Exits" section of Rt. 18 N (off the side from the main highway) has like two of those. And guess what, it's college kids. Faggots. I am one of the more aggressive drivers, always passing people that are holding me up at 75mph, but nothing annoys me more than people like you who don't at least put in some effort to let people merge. They have to merge SOMEHOW, and if you have to slow down slightly, then do it. It's not like they are being a dick and cutting you off, but rather they HAVE to get in before their lane stops. There is only so much space in between cars to get over, I will always try to gun it so you don't have to slow down but if you're not leaving over a car length in the first place for me to get over, and the person behind you is doing the same, then NO one can get over, backing up the entire merging lane. Personally, the way I see it, if you're too much of a dick to let people merge in, you shouldn't be driving next a the lane that's merging. I have no problem gunning it up to 90 so you don't have to slow down, but sometimes there simply isn't a method where you won't have to slow down without completely fucking up traffic. Just personal opinion. I'm not asking for those people to go 90 or 40, a 5 mph difference should be sufficient for the duration of the stretch (in my experience). I am not accelerating to stop them from entering nor am I slowing down. I am just going on cruise control (I drive on cruise control 90% of the time that it is practical), a little above speed limit. A constant factor on the highway, not some free radical that you have to figure out and try to predict. I never have problems merging in because you have to time it appropriately with the traffic, which is easy when people are going a more or less constant speed. It's the people who use the acceleration lane to actually try to pass people that are retarded, because you're not supposed to be going 75 or whatever in that lane. It is more or less expected that you are going slower than the traffic you are entering, up until the point where you actually merge, and then you usually give a burst of an additional 5-10 mph to fit in the natural space between 2 cars and join rhythm. The moment you said you were an aggressive driver it ruined your argument in my eyes. Merging into the highway is not the time to be aggressive (EDIT: there are of course exceptions to this rule, but that is what they are - exceptions). This isn't just my opinion - I worked as a driver before so these are things you learn in training. I wasn't referring to being aggressive while merging in. I was referring more so to traffic related situations when it's hard to merge in, when I'm merging in onto the freeway on my way home from work, while not one of these confounded acceleration lanes you speak of, it's an absolute BITCH to merge over in. If you were going 70 mph it only gives you 10 seconds to merge over, which seems like a lot, but it doesn't end with a sort of "forced merge" onto the freeway, but it's actually an exit lane. So you have to find a way to get over, while other people are trying to get into your lane at the same time. And since it's a double exit lanes, you have to get over TWICE in that stretch otherwise you end up exiting. It's a retarded setup. And since I get off work at 6:00 pm often, I'm dealing with rush hour traffic. People drive so close to each other you CAN'T merge UNLESS someone lets you over, which people do. I always give priority to the mergers in this situation and rage when people don't hit their own brakes to let me over. That's my image of what you guys were discussing, but I realize that it's actually a different situation, and the part in bold you were also describing something differently. I find it hard to believe that people tailgate to the point of not having a car's length in between but still moving around speed limit California, have fun. If you're going less than 80 mph in the left lane (15mph over) expect to get passed by everyone else and most likely get honked at if you stay there at 10mph over. My friend, from LA, drives less than a car length behind, and it scares the shit out of me. Most people leave slightly over a car length I'd say, but it's still pretty damn close. EDIT: Even the slow lanes drive over the speed limit, haha. Usually the slowest lanes are driving around 70mph. Ah I see. That is a pain in the ass indeed, and different from what I had in mind lol. I don't know how I'd handle that, I don't think I've ever seen a single lane merge into a double lane exit in my life lol. In NJ the left lane is similar but on most highways people are pretty civil in the right lane, at least when there isn't much traffic. You are expected to go speed limit or more, but if you aren't then you just get passed and it's not hard to do so since the other lanes are going above speed limit. Most of the time xP Where Route 42 merges into 295...nightmare. 42 splits off into two different ramps that go over 295, then 295 splits off (by means of a 3 inch high concrete separator and a shoulder IN THE MIDDLE for about 4 miles before remerging with itself after it's become 76) and then 42 comes down on both sides. The on the left side, the 2 lanes from 295 merge and then the lane from 42 becomes the left lane. On the right hand side, the 2 lanes from 42 become 295, and there's about 700 feet of cross merging from people on 42 going to 76, and people staying on 295.
For a graphic reference: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.868773,-75.099986&spn=0.007395,0.021136&t=k&z=16
It's hell.
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On March 14 2011 22:46 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 13:43 Sadistx wrote: Hmm, I don't really dislike any type of drivers in particular, except for the cell phone holding makeup-doing soccer mom in an escalade tailgating me @ 75 mph. Luckily those are pretty rare, so the road is a happy experience for me.
I try to signal and never go 10 mph above the limit and everything ^_^
What I don't understand is superagressive driving. If I'm going somewhere on a freeway and there's moderate traffic, I just stay in one of the middle lanes until my exit. I see sooooooooo many people try to weave in lanes and tailgate other people at less than 5 feet and 10 miles later I see that same car side by side with me or maybe 50 feet ahead. That's because someone had your mentality only in the left lane, and other people don't know when to GTFO of the left lane, so everyone who drives fast gets slowed down and stuck. If people would just stay the hell out of the left lane, you'd never see them again. But no, they HAVE to get in the way. It's so annoying >< Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 08:54 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 08:46 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 12 2011 08:24 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 08:09 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 12 2011 07:29 Murderotica wrote:On March 12 2011 07:20 Hawk wrote: Basically instead of ramp to get onto the highway forcing you to gun it into traffic, there is several hundred feet of temp lane in front of you to get up to speed and merge smoothly
Sounds nice in practice, but because we let any breathing fuckstick get a license and don't do anything to ensure that little grandma can still see more than 10 feet in front of her and react accordingly, most people start going and unexpectedly slam the breaks for no reason. These things are basically traps for rear end accidents because of this My other favorite is the people who completely ignore the yield sign in that situation. That yield sign still applies to you, fucktard, because you're not really on the highway yet. They just accelerate, get side by side with you, then try to merge into you and get pissed when you don't give them way. Like wtf? You are pissed at ME because I didn't let you merge in front of me from a yield-sign merge/acceleration lane, when I am on cruise control on the fucking highway? Fucking dipshits. It's almost as bad as when there are 2 roads merging and one has a yield sign, and people see you coming from the side, and refuse to yield anyways, and just gun it hoping to make it there before you do. Fucking pricks. "New Brunswick Exits" section of Rt. 18 N (off the side from the main highway) has like two of those. And guess what, it's college kids. Faggots. I am one of the more aggressive drivers, always passing people that are holding me up at 75mph, but nothing annoys me more than people like you who don't at least put in some effort to let people merge. They have to merge SOMEHOW, and if you have to slow down slightly, then do it. It's not like they are being a dick and cutting you off, but rather they HAVE to get in before their lane stops. There is only so much space in between cars to get over, I will always try to gun it so you don't have to slow down but if you're not leaving over a car length in the first place for me to get over, and the person behind you is doing the same, then NO one can get over, backing up the entire merging lane. Personally, the way I see it, if you're too much of a dick to let people merge in, you shouldn't be driving next a the lane that's merging. I have no problem gunning it up to 90 so you don't have to slow down, but sometimes there simply isn't a method where you won't have to slow down without completely fucking up traffic. Just personal opinion. I'm not asking for those people to go 90 or 40, a 5 mph difference should be sufficient for the duration of the stretch (in my experience). I am not accelerating to stop them from entering nor am I slowing down. I am just going on cruise control (I drive on cruise control 90% of the time that it is practical), a little above speed limit. A constant factor on the highway, not some free radical that you have to figure out and try to predict. I never have problems merging in because you have to time it appropriately with the traffic, which is easy when people are going a more or less constant speed. It's the people who use the acceleration lane to actually try to pass people that are retarded, because you're not supposed to be going 75 or whatever in that lane. It is more or less expected that you are going slower than the traffic you are entering, up until the point where you actually merge, and then you usually give a burst of an additional 5-10 mph to fit in the natural space between 2 cars and join rhythm. The moment you said you were an aggressive driver it ruined your argument in my eyes. Merging into the highway is not the time to be aggressive (EDIT: there are of course exceptions to this rule, but that is what they are - exceptions). This isn't just my opinion - I worked as a driver before so these are things you learn in training. I wasn't referring to being aggressive while merging in. I was referring more so to traffic related situations when it's hard to merge in, when I'm merging in onto the freeway on my way home from work, while not one of these confounded acceleration lanes you speak of, it's an absolute BITCH to merge over in. If you were going 70 mph it only gives you 10 seconds to merge over, which seems like a lot, but it doesn't end with a sort of "forced merge" onto the freeway, but it's actually an exit lane. So you have to find a way to get over, while other people are trying to get into your lane at the same time. And since it's a double exit lanes, you have to get over TWICE in that stretch otherwise you end up exiting. It's a retarded setup. And since I get off work at 6:00 pm often, I'm dealing with rush hour traffic. People drive so close to each other you CAN'T merge UNLESS someone lets you over, which people do. I always give priority to the mergers in this situation and rage when people don't hit their own brakes to let me over. That's my image of what you guys were discussing, but I realize that it's actually a different situation, and the part in bold you were also describing something differently. I find it hard to believe that people tailgate to the point of not having a car's length in between but still moving around speed limit California, have fun. If you're going less than 80 mph in the left lane (15mph over) expect to get passed by everyone else and most likely get honked at if you stay there at 10mph over. My friend, from LA, drives less than a car length behind, and it scares the shit out of me. Most people leave slightly over a car length I'd say, but it's still pretty damn close. EDIT: Even the slow lanes drive over the speed limit, haha. Usually the slowest lanes are driving around 70mph. Ah I see. That is a pain in the ass indeed, and different from what I had in mind lol. I don't know how I'd handle that, I don't think I've ever seen a single lane merge into a double lane exit in my life lol. In NJ the left lane is similar but on most highways people are pretty civil in the right lane, at least when there isn't much traffic. You are expected to go speed limit or more, but if you aren't then you just get passed and it's not hard to do so since the other lanes are going above speed limit. Most of the time xP Where Route 42 merges into 295...nightmare. 42 splits off into two different ramps that go over 295, then 295 splits off (by means of a 3 inch high concrete separator and a shoulder IN THE MIDDLE for about 4 miles before remerging with itself after it's become 76) and then 42 comes down on both sides. The on the left side, the 2 lanes from 295 merge and then the lane from 42 becomes the left lane. On the right hand side, the 2 lanes from 42 become 295, and there's about 700 feet of cross merging from people on 42 going to 76, and people staying on 295. For a graphic reference: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.868773,-75.099986&spn=0.007395,0.021136&t=k&z=16It's hell. LOL... That is so bad hahaha. That can't be how they originally planned it, you know that shit was all dumped on a group of CEs and the government was like "Alright we need you to figure out how we can merge all this shit in as little room as possible, glhf."
I'll show some of my favorites from my area, route 18:
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/fanatacist-/180.png
1. This is the exit that college kids take to get back home or to NYC if they are going on US 1 or the TP, which 90% of them are. This is where everyone drives like chickens with their heads cut off because they can't figure out that the left lane is for going South and the right is for North. People have merged into each other so many times here, its fucking terrible. This is in part due to the preceding Circle of Doom, which has 3 entrances, a merge with another road, and no one understands the concept of yielding (except for the people in the circle, who yield to cars about to get into the circle, perpetuation the cycle of stupidity).
2. Acceleration lane that has the most assholes I have ever seen (probably because it's coming out of Cook college, fuckers).
3. Similar scenario as 1, people don't get that to bypass all of NB you go left, so the people in the right lanes who are just trying to figure out WTF is going on on this road have to merge over 3 lanes to not get fucked by college traffic. College bitches that drive their trust fund cars in the left lane realize that they need to get into the right lanes too late and merge right. So many times have I seen like 3 cars sitting in that white area, going in opposite directions, all stuck because of each other and the traffic of like-minded idiots.
4. Yet another divide that people can't seem to handle, this is for my exit to my house too (I live adjacent to college campus, woe is me).
5. There is a very misleading sign before this exit which makes people think they can U-turn in this development. Well, you can't. Results in mass people sitting there and jumping in at the worst time.
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/fanatacist-/181.png
A. So if you are coming down 1 S and want to make a U-turn, the makers of this disaster decided to put it together with route 18 N. Only problem is that they realized too late that when they'd be done, there'd be only 300 feet for you to 1. accelerate to 45, 2. merge into traffic 3. switch 3 lanes. GLHF! Worst shit in the world. I usually avoid this U-turn even though it is logistically the most convenient one.
B. I have seen people do the stupidest shit in this area, simply because they have so many damn options that they usually end up taking all the ones that make them in go in fucking circles in one of the busiest exit areas. The 3 roads here connect 1 N, 18 S, and the TP.
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/fanatacist-/182.png
C. This is the TP and route 18. I would begin to explain the problems but there are simply too many. One of my major gripes is that they decided to build shit in between all these exits so there are people popping in and out of exit roads and some of the roads go throug fucking business parking lots. WTF IS GOING ON HERE?
So basically, to get anywhere from my house or from any highway in my area (I have to take 1 to and from work, I have to take 18 to my parents' house, TP to the city, etc. etc.) its a solid 10 minutes of headache regardless of where you are going because all the options are equally shitty.
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