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This is not a whine blog about how the game is boring or imbalanced (I'm terran, and therefore not allowed to have opinions on this), but more on a personal level.
I've been playing SC for a little over two years now, and really enjoyed it for the longest time. After almost a year of SC2 (got beta in march), the game seems to slowly but surely become less interesting to me.
I really enjoy watching streams and tournaments, and feel like the game itself is extremely good. The problem doesn't lie within the game's mechanics boring me, or the game becoming tedious. From what I can tell, it's mostly coming from the stagnation I feel like I'm hitting. I really want to improve and become good at this game, but it's sort of mentally exhausting for me when you're 50/50 and not feeling any improvement from any game to the next (I know BNet makes you 50/50 on purpose, but I feel this anyway).
I've gone from getting SC2 at the midnight release and playing until I got diamond, after which I went to sleep, to barely being able to get 2 or 3 games in a week.
I was wondering if anyone had any similar experiences and what they did in order to get past it. I really enjoy the game and the community but when I feel like I have to force myself to play ladder it isn't fulfilling.
I guess it's worth mentioning that I've been diamond since July 27th, but haven't gotten to masters yet T_T (which sort of fuels the problem).
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play a different race, take a break from the game, try and implement some (relatively) crazy strategies. if your issue is with stagnation, then just do something differently. i think that should be obvious. if you change your approach to the game and still can't regain any interest, then maybe you're just over it, period. no use trying to force feed yourself entertainment
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You can go back to BW. Always a good choice
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On March 15 2011 11:12 101toss wrote:You can go back to BW. Always a good choice
Have actually heavily considered this lol, is iCCup still running?
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I felt exactly the same way, I pretty much forced myself to play for weeks. Friends would ask me to play and I'd make up random excuses for why I couldn't.
It's funny because I did not like the beta one bit. I still bought the game (CE and all) and kept telling myself it would get better. I also only played 2-3 ladder games a week eventually getting to Diamond. Soon after I stopped laddering and exclusively played UMS.
Eventually I just became honest with myself that the game wasn't very good. I wasn't enjoying it and that I had wasted my money on a below average game.
Of course other people are entitled to like it as much as they want. This is just my opinion that I thought I'd share because it might help the OP.
I really, really hope HotS makes the game much more enjoyable. That said, I'll be putting a lot more thought into purchasing it than I did with WoL.
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I'm getting bored too, both playing and watching SC2.
iCCup still running strong. Now if my monitor would colaborate and not crop out the BW game screen...
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If you searched thru BW General sects, u might found quit alot of thread "Switching from sc2--> sc1". Generally, i think we play game bcos we wanna have fun right? So, i think u shud play the one which u feeel fun :D
yes iccup running. some of us plays in korean servers (Fish and Brain)
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Yeah all the BW servers are still running. But what makes SC2 more fun for me is playing against people I know. Talk to people in channels and get some practice partners who are better than you. Work until you can stomp them. Hell yeah, gratification.
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How about joining tournaments? if battlenet bore the hell out of you.
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On March 15 2011 11:14 Sc1pio wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 11:12 101toss wrote:You can go back to BW. Always a good choice Have actually heavily considered this lol, is iCCup still running? Yes its still up and awesome.
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I've nearly stopped playing as well. I go on frequent business trips and it's frustrating to come back and lose all the ground you had previously, (even with the bonus pool). I end up losing all my games and winning only the games that I was already favored... especially when they are due to little mistakes that I didn't use to make, like getting supply capped or forgetting to inject.
However, my interest in SC2 as a spectator sport is still strong as ever, and I still watch all the GSL games on my iPhone when I go to work or when I have some downtime at the office.
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I think this is a common feeling that hits a lot of people. I got into the beta somewhat late and played for a long time, but haven't for a couple months now. It just seemed like every game was the same. I wanted to play around with different styles of play, but eventually found that there was only one way to successfully play (as zerg). I enjoyed streams for awhile, (I still even catch a game or two every now and then) but they just showed the same things happening over and over.
My friend who started at release quit before I did too. I'm hoping that HOTS will add numerous viable options for each race to do.
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Take a break until you feel like playing again.
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This is an epidemic.
Happened to me too. I thought it was just 1v1, but after a while 3v3 and 4v4 got uninteresting. The game was just not fun.
So I took a break, about 2-3 months. Now I'm back playing and I love it I play to have fun, not to win tournaments.
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I once had an ex girlfriend I strung along for the longest time after I had broken up with her. I knew early on she was not the girl for me. She was clingy and strange, she wasn't the most stunningly beautiful girl in the world. Outside of personal quirks that I am sure we all have there was nothing grotesquely wrong with her, but she just wasn't the one.
This didn't stop me, however, from taking advantage of the open endedness of the canned "we can still be friends" break up speech I gave her. As friends would do, I called her now and then, when a man's urges reached that point where the little extra effort of lying to someone seems like a better idea than a trip to a streaming porn site and soggy kleenex. As friends wouldn't do, time and again I gave her the impression that we could be more than friends once more. And how she would rise to the occasion, as if there was really was a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow I would conjure for sole purpose of satisfying my own selfish urges.
She would transform herself for my approval, an offhand comment about how I like redheads would see her at my doorstep with crimson highlights in her naturally raven black hair. A poor substitution for a real redhead, the effort was always noted and not wholly unappreciated, but no realistic person could think a slight alteration of ones hair color would be the fix that puts everything back in place. And as if to throw salt in the emotional wounds I was inflicting on this poor girl every time I used her, those transformations would never get the approval from me that she so yearned for. Not as an important step in some methodical plan to break the girl down, but because I believed at the time that giving hope to the hopless was like giving water to someone dying of thirst, if you give them too much too soon they will drink themselves to death on it.
Upon reflecting on the way I treated her, I feel incredibly guilty. She probably hasn't spared me a second thought in years, any effort in seeking repentance from her would likely just open up old wounds. Her name wasn't Starcraft 2, because no responsible parents would name their daughter that.
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True,
I have been watching and playing sc1 for many years, the games now are still exciting. Been playing sc2 since beta on and off and it just damn boring sometimes. I mean the excitement is just gone.
It's games like Nestea vs Leenock on xelnaga caverns In the recent GSL up and down matches that make me want to scream. Macro for 10 mins build up an army of roaches vs roach hydra A move and 30 seconds later after 1 battle the game is over. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHAT?! How the hell do you expect me to watch SC2 for 10 years like SC1 with games that end in 1 or 2 battles? Granted not all games are like this, but they aren't much better. Long macro games don't have the same appeal as macro games in sc1.
Blizzard messed up big time on SC2, they have no idea what they are doing. They are still tweaking and tweaking and have completely missed what was great about sc1. None of the units really do anything exciting, the battles are down to a few fights which mostly consists of A moving.
I seriously think the pros secretly hate this game. Only some people are honest in saying it (eg. Idra) all the others want to keep their mouths shut as to not harm the community. They only keep silent because they want it to grow. I can't help but think players like July, Boxer, Nada, do it for the $$ and fans, the new guys do it for $$. How can they not see SC2 as a failure after all their time in sc1. Unless Blizz does something in HofS or LoftV I think it'll start to become torturous to watch this crap for another 5 years.
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When I watch BW games... They are a lot more entertaining than sc2 ones. Just my two cent.
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On March 15 2011 11:48 floor exercise wrote: I once had an ex girlfriend I strung along for the longest time after I had broken up with her. I knew early on she was not the girl for me. She was clingy and strange, she wasn't the most stunningly beautiful girl in the world. Outside of personal quirks that I am sure we all have there was nothing grotesquely wrong with her, but she just wasn't the one.
This didn't stop me, however, from taking advantage of the open endedness of the canned "we can still be friends" break up speech I gave her. As friends would do, I called her now and then, when a man's urges reached that point where the little extra effort of lying to someone seems like a better idea than a trip to a streaming porn site and soggy kleenex. As friends wouldn't do, time and again I gave her the impression that we could be more than friends once more. And how she would rise to the occasion, as if there was really was a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow I would conjure for sole purpose of satisfying my own selfish urges.
She would transform herself for my approval, an offhand comment about how I like redheads would see her at my doorstep with crimson highlights in her naturally raven black hair. A poor substitution for a real redhead, the effort was always noted and not wholly unappreciated, but no realistic person could think a slight alteration of ones hair color would be the fix that puts everything back in place. And as if to throw salt in the emotional wounds I was inflicting on this poor girl every time I used her, those transformations would never get the approval from me that she so yearned for. Not as an important step in some methodical plan to break the girl down, but because I believed at the time that giving hope to the hopless was like giving water to someone dying of thirst, if you give them too much too soon they will drink themselves to death on it.
Upon reflecting on the way I treated her, I feel incredibly guilty. She probably hasn't spared me a second thought in years, any effort in seeking repentance from her would likely just open up old wounds. Her name wasn't Starcraft 2, because no responsible parents would name their daughter that.
Are you responding to another post? How the hell does your GF have anything to do with this post??
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On March 15 2011 11:59 viletomato wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 11:48 floor exercise wrote: I once had an ex girlfriend I strung along for the longest time after I had broken up with her. I knew early on she was not the girl for me. She was clingy and strange, she wasn't the most stunningly beautiful girl in the world. Outside of personal quirks that I am sure we all have there was nothing grotesquely wrong with her, but she just wasn't the one.
This didn't stop me, however, from taking advantage of the open endedness of the canned "we can still be friends" break up speech I gave her. As friends would do, I called her now and then, when a man's urges reached that point where the little extra effort of lying to someone seems like a better idea than a trip to a streaming porn site and soggy kleenex. As friends wouldn't do, time and again I gave her the impression that we could be more than friends once more. And how she would rise to the occasion, as if there was really was a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow I would conjure for sole purpose of satisfying my own selfish urges.
She would transform herself for my approval, an offhand comment about how I like redheads would see her at my doorstep with crimson highlights in her naturally raven black hair. A poor substitution for a real redhead, the effort was always noted and not wholly unappreciated, but no realistic person could think a slight alteration of ones hair color would be the fix that puts everything back in place. And as if to throw salt in the emotional wounds I was inflicting on this poor girl every time I used her, those transformations would never get the approval from me that she so yearned for. Not as an important step in some methodical plan to break the girl down, but because I believed at the time that giving hope to the hopless was like giving water to someone dying of thirst, if you give them too much too soon they will drink themselves to death on it.
Upon reflecting on the way I treated her, I feel incredibly guilty. She probably hasn't spared me a second thought in years, any effort in seeking repentance from her would likely just open up old wounds. Her name wasn't Starcraft 2, because no responsible parents would name their daughter that. Are you responding to another post? How the hell does your GF have anything to do with this post??
his GF was imaginary (i assume) and it was an analogy the GF does = sc2 and "the one" = bw...at least thats what i got from it
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I like the way you're being honest with yourself about the reasons
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Yea i'm just like you. I started playing SC2 since beta and kinda had the mindset of quitting BW once SC2 was released. Then after release I played till i got to diamond then just got bored. It couldn't really compare to BW in terms of spectating or playing. I still watch a ton of BW but barely play either SC now :/
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Sounds like you might need to take a bit of a break from SC2. Anybody gets burnt out of their occupation or hobby if they pursue it too intensely, and sometimes the best thing to do is to just chill and recharge your interests in the game.
You could always try your hand at playing other games, if you have the money. Sometimes getting a perspective of the other games in the RTS genre can really let you appreciate how exquisitely made BW and SC2 are. The C&C series is usually quite fun (except for C&C4; that sucks). The original Dawn of War games are quite good, as are Homeworld and Company of Heroes from the same company. If you've never tried Rise of Nations, that is also an excellent RTS. Civilization 4 will probably keep you busy for a long time.
SC2 isn't the only game out there, and sometimes it's good to have a secondary game available for you to relax and refresh in. Liquid'Tyler frequents World of Warcraft quite a bit. Stork plays cell phone games. Many of the featured streamers on TL play League of Legends.
Also, I think it's worth playing the other two races, perhaps even switching to Random. It really gives you a nice perspective on all the races and leaves you unbiased against any perceived notion of imbalance. IMO, Random players should be the most respected authorities on balance. Playing Zerg or Protoss is a completely different experience and feel like almost a completely different game.
Also, it's always good to start approaching your learning process a bit differently and creatively. Watching replays should become a bigger habit. Experimenting with new builds and ironing out your kinks also is quite useful.
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On March 15 2011 11:59 viletomato wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 11:48 floor exercise wrote: I once had an ex girlfriend I strung along for the longest time after I had broken up with her. I knew early on she was not the girl for me. She was clingy and strange, she wasn't the most stunningly beautiful girl in the world. Outside of personal quirks that I am sure we all have there was nothing grotesquely wrong with her, but she just wasn't the one.
This didn't stop me, however, from taking advantage of the open endedness of the canned "we can still be friends" break up speech I gave her. As friends would do, I called her now and then, when a man's urges reached that point where the little extra effort of lying to someone seems like a better idea than a trip to a streaming porn site and soggy kleenex. As friends wouldn't do, time and again I gave her the impression that we could be more than friends once more. And how she would rise to the occasion, as if there was really was a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow I would conjure for sole purpose of satisfying my own selfish urges.
She would transform herself for my approval, an offhand comment about how I like redheads would see her at my doorstep with crimson highlights in her naturally raven black hair. A poor substitution for a real redhead, the effort was always noted and not wholly unappreciated, but no realistic person could think a slight alteration of ones hair color would be the fix that puts everything back in place. And as if to throw salt in the emotional wounds I was inflicting on this poor girl every time I used her, those transformations would never get the approval from me that she so yearned for. Not as an important step in some methodical plan to break the girl down, but because I believed at the time that giving hope to the hopless was like giving water to someone dying of thirst, if you give them too much too soon they will drink themselves to death on it.
Upon reflecting on the way I treated her, I feel incredibly guilty. She probably hasn't spared me a second thought in years, any effort in seeking repentance from her would likely just open up old wounds. Her name wasn't Starcraft 2, because no responsible parents would name their daughter that. Are you responding to another post? How the hell does your GF have anything to do with this post??
Just someone trying hard ^^. anyway ive had a similar feelings towards sc2 but i normally find after a few days not playing and one or two streams my interest pops up again.
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lol, do any other BW ppl seek out and read every blog posted about some player losing interest in sc2 even though they know exactly what their gonna see discussed?
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had this happen to me in october
sc2 killed my mental will to play games now for some reason. i can't even play league of legends/dota/sc2/blc without going like "oh god this is so tiring what's the point"
that's a general thing, after i quit wow i just can't play video games anymore without feeling really tired.
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I don't see how getting a bunch of wins until you reach your skill and level off at a 50% win ratio is any different from getting a bunch of wins, making it to C- or whatever and then getting owned by smurfing koreans.
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learn a new race. i picked up toss and my love for sc2 was resparked!
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I feel like in sc2 wins are way more important than in other games. I used to play DotA for many years and after my clan disbanded I moved to LoL and sc2. Everytime I win in LoL, I think to myself "it just isn't the same as a sc2 win." Maybe DotA2 will change that.
I played beta and got to diamond really fast. Now I've been there forever. I'm high diamond, but I can't really get to masters, because it seems like it's going to take a lot of games to get all the rust off from not playing enough. Maybe it's because I play terran, but every win seems to take so much effort and a single small mistake can throw all that effort down the drain. Still, I want to be good at this game. I want to be high masters and I want to be able to compete in at least small tournaments. I don't even have a good reason for it. I guess it's just for the e-penis.
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On March 15 2011 11:48 floor exercise wrote: I once had an ex girlfriend I strung along for the longest time after I had broken up with her. I knew early on she was not the girl for me. She was clingy and strange, she wasn't the most stunningly beautiful girl in the world. Outside of personal quirks that I am sure we all have there was nothing grotesquely wrong with her, but she just wasn't the one.
This didn't stop me, however, from taking advantage of the open endedness of the canned "we can still be friends" break up speech I gave her. As friends would do, I called her now and then, when a man's urges reached that point where the little extra effort of lying to someone seems like a better idea than a trip to a streaming porn site and soggy kleenex. As friends wouldn't do, time and again I gave her the impression that we could be more than friends once more. And how she would rise to the occasion, as if there was really was a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow I would conjure for sole purpose of satisfying my own selfish urges.
She would transform herself for my approval, an offhand comment about how I like redheads would see her at my doorstep with crimson highlights in her naturally raven black hair. A poor substitution for a real redhead, the effort was always noted and not wholly unappreciated, but no realistic person could think a slight alteration of ones hair color would be the fix that puts everything back in place. And as if to throw salt in the emotional wounds I was inflicting on this poor girl every time I used her, those transformations would never get the approval from me that she so yearned for. Not as an important step in some methodical plan to break the girl down, but because I believed at the time that giving hope to the hopless was like giving water to someone dying of thirst, if you give them too much too soon they will drink themselves to death on it.
Upon reflecting on the way I treated her, I feel incredibly guilty. She probably hasn't spared me a second thought in years, any effort in seeking repentance from her would likely just open up old wounds. Her name wasn't Starcraft 2, because no responsible parents would name their daughter that. Haha, epic post. This pretty much sums up this thread
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On March 15 2011 15:10 Incanus wrote:I don't see how getting a bunch of wins until you reach your skill and level off at a 50% win ratio is any different from getting a bunch of wins, making it to C- or whatever and then getting owned by smurfing koreans.
Because once you get C-, you can reset your stats and smurf the D players. Can't do that in SC2 w/o an extra $60 or a lot of time wasted insta-leaving games.
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lol even I lost hope in playing SC2,but I still watch GSL from time to time.Balance changes are too fast and too radical for me to handle.
all in all I only see this as a good thing,there will only be SC2 players who don't quit on SC2 and constantly try to make it a better game and with more people moving to broodwar I can find games on my level easier and pwn noobs much much easier.
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