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intrigue
Washington, D.C9931 Posts
i am so happy these days, and it makes me marvel at the birth lottery. i lucked out, i really did. i am so ludicrously well off considering the amount of effort/seriousness i've ever put into anything. these are the things i've earnestly pursued in my life: - tvz & zvt in broodwar - a few music song things - self-actualizing - cataloging experiences/sensations -
look at this list, it's the most self-centered and useless shit. i did almost literally nothing during college except jerk off and get high and somehow finished an (albeit shit) degree. i haven't been sober for longer than a month in three years and i have a fulltime job that is easy and pays well. factor in my relations and low standards and i will never have to worry about money in my life. i overcame existential angst because i'm smart enough to understand camus, but not smart enough to delve into the rabbit hole of 'real' philosophy. i frequently blow off even my best friends because i happened to meet extremely cool people that always forgive me for it. what the fuck?
all i care about in life right now is pursuing young artistic cute women and what an absurd... luxury that is!
in the sirens of titan, the greatest sin in vonnegut's invented religion ("The Church of God the Utterly Indifferent") is to attribute positive twists of fate to your own doing, and believe that anyone deserves anything that happens to them. i think about this all the time, but i don't know what to do with this information. do i apologize? am i wasting something? my friends with more productive jobs and higher status seem so unhappy still, but i'm fine. is a life happily lived worth it already? is it complacency to aspire for the most important thing, happiness, and then just be completely satisfied once you hit it?
edit: i'm not a girl, but you can continue being weirdly nice to me because of the 1% uncertainty. makes the internet a much more pleasant place.
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Why do you think the most important thing is happiness?
Sometimes I wish I weren't as well off as I am.
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Congratulations.
You are not wasting your time, you are enjoying the finer things in life.
GL HF being a Sybarite! (It quite honestly can be a lot of fun)
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Well... No shit, you're a kitten
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Don't worry about the things you can change, for you will change them. Don't worry about the things you can't change, for you cannot do anything to change them.
Don't worry.
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On January 03 2012 15:49 AirbladeOrange wrote: Why do you think the most important thing is happiness?
Sometimes I wish I weren't as well off as I am. Sometimes I wish I weren't so not well off...
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On January 03 2012 16:02 MrRicewife wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2012 15:49 AirbladeOrange wrote: Why do you think the most important thing is happiness?
Sometimes I wish I weren't as well off as I am. Sometimes I wish I weren't so not well off...
If you're able to type what you just did on a computer and post it freely, you're a lot more well off than you probably think.
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I think happiness is my personal definition of not wasting anything as long as I can sustain myself in the situation I attain it. My second priorities would be seeking a wider range of human experience or perhaps working to improve society or the lives of other, more destitute beings. I think the degree of complacency one feels when reaching a zenith (like being truly happy) is partially equal to the effort or work you feel like you put into getting there. It seems more likely to me to attain happiness through happenstance rather than focused effort and thus those who've attained happiness are less likely to feel complacent about their situation. I don't see having a good life in and of itself as being a driving force towards doing something more, whatever that may be, to improve upon it.
It's at times like these I get frustrated at myself for not being better at English so that I may communicate my thoughts more clearly.
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Thought this was going to be a brag blog about your superior looks and talents. Rather its a brag blog about being happy, something which is much harder to obtain
5/5, GlHf with your indie chicks.
(Also thanks for linking me to Camus, I needed some positive philospy to pursue)
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haha for a second I thought you won the lottery or something lol. I am jealous you are so well off :D
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Nice blog, I like the honesty.
I think it's always good to reflect on the lucky things in our lives.
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
Man, must be nice being a girl. Good luck finding young artistic cute lesbians though. This is probably going to be the toughest thing you will face in your life. Glhf.
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Reading your blogs makes my brain feel refreshed. I read them in your voice, it's like delightful warm shower for my brain.
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If you are so happy, try spreading it around. There is a lot of suffering in the world..
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hi jeff~ long time no talk!
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It seems self evident that if you are even thinking to ask is a life happily lived worth it already? then the answer is of course not.
However, if you lack the inner nagging feeling to pursue why, then there's nothing to be done.
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the dude girl has not only one but two non-standard icons on tl. what more could he she possibly want?
/edit: SORRY WRONG GENDER!!
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On January 03 2012 17:14 JIJIyO wrote: Man, must be nice being a girl. Good luck finding young artistic cute lesbians though. This is probably going to be the toughest thing you will face in your life. Glhf.
I thought all young artistic cute women were lesbians. Is Boardwalk Empire wrong?
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I'd agree with what EatThePath has said. I often feel pretty damn lucky to get to do the range of things I do, and like I have too many good things to choose between. A friend passed on some good advice in that regard, that of just stating your purpose in life in a short sentence (without commas). His was just 'Do interesting things.' and he feels very lucky to get to
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keep doing wat ur doing biatch, when ur sleeping with all those cute young artistic women. i want u to think of the time me and u shared a bed
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LOL Huk, letting intrigue know who the real boss is? XD
@intrigue Shit man, I'm not sure if it's what you mean, but I think I understand the sensation that you've somehow lucked your way into a fantastic life(style). I'd give 5 for similarity to own life, but I'm gonna give 1 because I'll tell you the same thing I want to tell myself: Time to get up off your ass and work hard so that you stop feeling guilty >.<
Of course, don't mind me, I'm just a complete stranger, so I'm probably completely misunderstanding your scenario/intentions
Edit: mannnn, just found out intrigue's a girl, now pretty much the first half of this post seems irrelevant :/ nvm, still relevant :D
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On January 03 2012 16:05 AimlessAmoeba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2012 16:02 MrRicewife wrote:On January 03 2012 15:49 AirbladeOrange wrote: Why do you think the most important thing is happiness?
Sometimes I wish I weren't as well off as I am. Sometimes I wish I weren't so not well off... If you're able to type what you just did on a computer and post it freely, you're a lot more well off than you probably think. what the fuck do you know about him? not a fucking shit, there are a lot of ways one can be not well off and still being able to post on teamliquid. Way to act like a jerk....
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its like we're the same person
rofl, jk, but you're awesome, one of my fav mods, gl gg yo
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damn i thought you entered some lottery where they used birth dates to pick the winner that would be such a sick idea
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On January 03 2012 20:40 HuK wrote: keep doing wat ur doing biatch, when ur sleeping with all those cute young artistic women. i want u to think of the time me and u shared a bed wat
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On January 03 2012 21:03 heha wrote:LOL Huk, letting intrigue know who the real boss is? XD @intrigue Shit man, I'm not sure if it's what you mean, but I think I understand the sensation that you've somehow lucked your way into a fantastic life(style). I'd give 5 for similarity to own life, but I'm gonna give 1 because I'll tell you the same thing I want to tell myself: Time to get up off your ass and work hard so that you stop feeling guilty >.< Of course, don't mind me, I'm just a complete stranger, so I'm probably completely misunderstanding your scenario/intentions Edit: mannnn, just found out intrigue's a girl, now pretty much the first half of this post seems irrelevant :/ nvm, still relevant :D
lolllllllllll...
good that youre doing well despite being a lazy fuck its a lot tougher to do in my future career ...
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nice.
i hope u understand that for everyone of u that are this lucky, there is someone on the other side of the equilibrium.
that person is me. im your polar opposite, forever cursed...
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I hope pursuing young artistic cute women is a valid goal or I'm doing it wrong. Just about to finish sputtering through my own program and I feel the same way. I am happy when I have no work to do and nothing to accomplish and I can float around with my friends. Your fortunate to have been wired to feel satisfied with similar things. The only thing that might go wrong would be feeling like you need something more in a few years.
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I always thought people like you, who have no real problems, are in the position to help other people with their problems. Not as an obligation, but an opportunity to enrich your life. I don`t want this sentence to weigh too heavy, so I will also tell you this: trying to hit on young artistic women sounds lifeimproving too.
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Do whatever makes you happy man, that's all that counts ^^
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On January 03 2012 15:49 AirbladeOrange wrote: Why do you think the most important thing is happiness? It isn't.
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On January 03 2012 19:29 Clow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2012 17:14 JIJIyO wrote: Man, must be nice being a girl. Good luck finding young artistic cute lesbians though. This is probably going to be the toughest thing you will face in your life. Glhf. I thought all young artistic cute women were lesbians. Is Boardwalk Empire wrong?
They want you to think they are lesbians, so you leave them alone
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9931 Posts
LOL you guys are cool. and wrong about somethings, but that's alright. first things first, i'm not a girl. you can find me here http://www.teamliquid.net/gallery/. huk may or may not love having other guys in his bed. there may or may not be more to the huk/idra relationship than you may believe!
On January 03 2012 15:49 AirbladeOrange wrote: Why do you think the most important thing is happiness?
Sometimes I wish I weren't as well off as I am. i don't know how to explain this, but it seems so obvious in my head. you spend most of the time dead, billions and billions of years of it. i don't know, maybe some of your atoms will become part of another living being in a few million years because they ate something you became a part of! anyhow
the crazy biological structures in my head apparently find it important to invest resources into maintaining this illusion of consciousness. i have a degree of agency in my decisions, and some choices reward my dopamine circuits and feel so gooodd. others feel neutral or are boring. why not abuse the system for pleasure? man, what a dumb answer. how about i don't know
On January 03 2012 18:24 EatThePath wrote:It seems self evident that if you are even thinking to ask then the answer is of course not. However, if you lack the inner nagging feeling to pursue why, then there's nothing to be done. + Show Spoiler + this is a good point. and extremely good advice!
On January 03 2012 23:32 zul wrote: I always thought people like you, who have no real problems, are in the position to help other people with their problems. Not as an obligation, but an opportunity to enrich your life. I don`t want this sentence to weigh too heavy, so I will also tell you this: trying to hit on young artistic women sounds lifeimproving too. yeah i thought that too, maybe still do. i don't do anything about it though. i am not noble of spirit enough to want to help people. i like to tell myself i know allll about the plight of mankind as if this awareness automatically makes me compassionate. i care a lot about the condition of myself and the people i entangle myself with, but outside of that LOL gl.
i remember when i was younger i was an EMT, and people would always be like 'oh you thank you for your dedication and service, i'm glad there's people that actually care'. but i didn't. i did it so people thought i was a good person, and it would look good on my resume. so i stopped.
i don't even know which reasons for this approach to life are rationalizations or powerful defense mechanisms and which are valid. anyhow, just wanted to air some of these observations. good talk
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On January 03 2012 15:49 AirbladeOrange wrote: Why do you think the most important thing is happiness?
Sometimes I wish I weren't as well off as I am. Not to derail too much, but for you as a person, what's more important than happiness? Isn't that kind of the goal of life, to achieve complete happiness and satisfaction with yourself?
People find that in different ways, but it's still all the same thing in the end, imo.
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Doesn't sound like a very meaningful existence to me. Don't you ever get bored? Isn't there a certain pleasure in experiences the variety of human existence, including sadness and anger? Is it happiness, or is it just complacency? It sounds impossible to be happy all the time, because the simple fact of having only one emotion would make me dissatisfied. Perhaps you have varying degrees of happiness, ranging from mildly amused to jubilant. Or maybe you do consider what most people consider sadness as a form of happiness?
Well, you don't have to feel guilty about it, but I think you're wrong about it having to do with your intelligence. It is more a matter of knowledge which shapes us, and knowledge can be acquired by nearly anyone. Knowledge nearly always makes things more unhappy.
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On January 03 2012 15:43 intrigue wrote: is a life happily lived worth it already? This question is so heavy loaded we could discuss this for days. Months. Years. Forever.
You realize that you're asking questions people ask themselves since the dawn of time?
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On January 04 2012 01:42 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2012 15:49 AirbladeOrange wrote: Why do you think the most important thing is happiness?
Sometimes I wish I weren't as well off as I am. Not to derail too much, but for you as a person, what's more important than happiness? Isn't that kind of the goal of life, to achieve complete happiness and satisfaction with yourself? People find that in different ways, but it's still all the same thing in the end, imo. That's ridiculously narrow minded. You are assuming that all goals will bring you happiness, but some people have lifelong pursuits which don't necessarily bring them happiness. Say you want to help people. Maybe in another country with a lot of war. You could go there and do your best, but in the end the people you try to help are not much better off and the country as a whole is still fucked. You did exactly what you wanted to do, your part in the social system of humanity, but you still feel like shit because it wasn't enough. But you didn't go there because you wanted to feel happy. You could just take drugs your whole life if that was all that mattered. You wanted to do something that changed some part of the world in some way, because as humans, we often find it important to matter to others, and to impart some kindness to our race as a whole. We call people who don't sociopaths. There is the Seinfeld episode about it being impossible not to do anything for your own happiness, but take a step back from that and ask if anyone is necessarily doing it for their own happiness, or if that is a byproduct and there are much more efficient ways to guarantee personal 'happiness.' I would argue there are a great deal of things which never really bring happiness, but which are important to the function of our society.
The goal isn't happiness, it's just a byproduct. The goal was the thing that you actually did with your life.
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On January 03 2012 15:43 intrigue wrote: am i wasting something? my friends with more productive jobs and higher status seem so unhappy still, but i'm fine. is a life happily lived worth it already? is it complacency to aspire for the most important thing, happiness, and then just be completely satisfied once you hit it?
Consider that in 1000 years no one will remember who you were, what you did, or any other detail about your life. Ben Franklin once wrote, "if you are not to be forgotten, as soon as you are dead and rotten/ Either write things worth reading, or do things worth the writing". But even this is a farce, 10,000 years from now (assuming humanity survives that long) few but the most devoted historians will remember even immensly influential people like George Washington. Those great discoveries and inventions will become one of millions of the like, many of the greatest scientists will be forgotten. Some may have their work live on, other's legacy will be destroyed and eternally forgotten like so many builders and academics of Rome. That is the crisis faced by Camus's absurd man, to spend a lifetime toiling away for a potentially meaningless existance.
But in some small way, everyone of us will contribute to the growth and advancment of humanity. Even the dead and forgotten of Rome helped in some way to build an empire that would lay the foundation for modern Europe, build the roads that would help the continent survive the dark ages. As long as you believe you are contributing to society, your is life as well spent as it should be. Don't be swayed by fast cars and big houses, as Aristotle once said “Time crumbles things; everything grows old and is forgotten under the power of time.”
Happiness is an illusion. I know a friend of the family, a single investment banker with no children who retired very young on a decent pile of money with the rest of his life to spend on his hobbies and persuing his wants. He is now an unhappy, lonely old person who wastes away his time on pointless things. My aunt is a strikingly similar story. When someone is given what they most desired, they most often find themselves utterly unhappy.
True "happiness" is about balance. We all need to be challenged in life; not to endure hardship but to face those day to day difficulties and use our minds to find solutions. We need that sense of satisfaction in accomplishing our goals, working to save up for that new PC, finishing our projects and what we need to accomplish to free up some time for a game of SC. There's a reason that the very wealthy old lonely woman has become a cliche. The truth is that is is reality. When we are given everything we want our lives lose their meaning. Real happiness is about finding the balance that works for each of us, and avoiding the traps of ego and self importance that will inevitable side track our search for that balance.
+ Show Spoiler +also, I sense a new TL meme. Intrigue the hot girl
edit: sp
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On January 03 2012 20:40 HuK wrote: keep doing wat ur doing biatch, when ur sleeping with all those cute young artistic women. i want u to think of the time me and u shared a bed
Chris crashing intrigue's party once again.
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On January 04 2012 01:52 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 01:42 Pokebunny wrote:On January 03 2012 15:49 AirbladeOrange wrote: Why do you think the most important thing is happiness?
Sometimes I wish I weren't as well off as I am. Not to derail too much, but for you as a person, what's more important than happiness? Isn't that kind of the goal of life, to achieve complete happiness and satisfaction with yourself? People find that in different ways, but it's still all the same thing in the end, imo. That's ridiculously narrow minded. You are assuming that all goals will bring you happiness, but some people have lifelong pursuits which don't necessarily bring them happiness. Say you want to help people. Maybe in another country with a lot of war. You could go there and do your best, but in the end the people you try to help are not much better off and the country as a whole is still fucked. You did exactly what you wanted to do, your part in the social system of humanity, but you still feel like shit because it wasn't enough. But you didn't go there because you wanted to feel happy. You could just take drugs your whole life if that was all that mattered. You wanted to do something that changed some part of the world in some way, because as humans, we often find it important to matter to others, and to impart some kindness to our race as a whole. We call people who don't sociopaths. There is the Seinfeld episode about it being impossible not to do anything for your own happiness, but take a step back from that and ask if anyone is necessarily doing it for their own happiness, or if that is a byproduct and there are much more efficient ways to guarantee personal 'happiness.' I would argue there are a great deal of things which never really bring happiness, but which are important to the function of our society. The goal isn't happiness, it's just a byproduct. The goal was the thing that you actually did with your life.
See, there is already the problem.
You have to distuingish between "Happiness" and "Satisfaction". What you are talking about would rather be, given the "general definition", more like satisfaction, since it doesn't give you the kick general happines gives you but you are still satisfied in a way, because you help people.
As I already said, the OP's question is loaded with stuff that we would have to determine and discuss first that we simply can't just answer it by saying something you picked up by your parents or something. This is a philosophical question that is being discussed for hundreds, thousands of years and there's a reason OP is seeking for "help": You simply cannot answer it. At least not without looking for what others already "discovered", thought of and so on... you gotta study this shit!
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Calgary25938 Posts
lol what are you kennigit? never seen so much brag in my life haha
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9931 Posts
On January 04 2012 02:11 Chill wrote: lol what are you kennigit? never seen so much brag in my life haha oh yes you have. yes you have.
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On January 03 2012 15:43 intrigue wrote: ... is a life happily lived worth it already? ...
Why do you care?
Yes, if a life lived happily is worth living for you it's fine to live your life like that.
So, my guess is you care because: 1. You feel it's ok to live you life anyway you want but you are aware of different opinions and you are uncertain; 2. You live your life as if you don't care but you feel you should. In this case the answer to your question is "no". 3. You don't. And this is a brag post
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9931 Posts
ok u guys got me i just wanted everyone to like me and think i am cool, OK??? so i made brag post
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Cut the crap and make more music before the world ends.
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On January 04 2012 04:43 intrigue wrote: ok u guys got me i just wanted everyone to like me and think i am cool, OK??? so i made brag post Hey you actually created a discussion about a very interesting topic !
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On January 04 2012 01:08 intrigue wrote: i'm not a girl
lies!
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I don't get it, what'd you get lucky with? x.x
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On January 03 2012 15:56 n.DieJokes wrote: Well... No shit, you're a kitten
For the past year and a half I honestly thought his icon was of two pandas hugging until you pointed that out o.o
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On January 04 2012 08:05 Hakker wrote:For the past year and a half I honestly thought his icon was of two pandas hugging until you pointed that out o.o lol I can see that.
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9931 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On January 04 2012 02:43 intrigue wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 02:11 Chill wrote: lol what are you kennigit? never seen so much brag in my life haha oh yes you have. yes you have.
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On January 04 2012 04:43 intrigue wrote: ok u guys got me i just wanted everyone to like me and think i am cool, OK??? so i made brag post
Wait... so you are a girl?
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Norway28262 Posts
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This thread has potential for the TL hall of fame.
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Fuck you.. Sincerely, us who are struggling :D
Can I buy your life??? :D
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On January 03 2012 15:49 AirbladeOrange wrote: Why do you think the most important thing is happiness?
Sometimes I wish I weren't as well off as I am.
Feel free to send your money to me :p
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United States10328 Posts
On January 04 2012 08:05 Hakker wrote:For the past year and a half I honestly thought his icon was of two pandas hugging until you pointed that out o.o
mind blown
also intrigue you're obviously a girl stop posting fake pics of yourself in the gallery
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Estonia4644 Posts
On January 03 2012 15:43 intrigue wrote:
all i care about in life right now is pursuing young artistic cute women and what an absurd... luxury that is!
edit: i'm not a girl, but you can continue being weirdly nice to me because of the 1% uncertainty. makes the internet a much more pleasant place.
- that is a nice goal to have for a braintwisting adventure, young artistic cute women always have a certain flaw/insecurity to them, hence why theyre being artistic to fill that hole with to begin with. Risk vs reward though, especially when you land on the one that is open-minded, artistic, cute, with a really confined private space/shell yet open to discuss/share it, given that you are susceptible and accept to deal with it (i was in a relationship with a graphic designer last year when i was still in art uni >_>)
- I'll be nice. I would love to remix some Castles stuff, should you be kind enough to provide stems <_<
gl :D
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9931 Posts
stems? what songs do you wanna remix ill send you the parts
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Estonia4644 Posts
yush, by stems i meant parts
I'll get back to you on that Nanjing 3000 is def one of them. C:
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