So, about 15 minutes ago, I was browsing the internet, and then my Father barges into my room like a viking and I'm thinking "Oh shit." He's all like "Hey, how are you feeling today?" I coughed feverishly due to my persistent cold-virus and answered "I feel a little better. I kept waking up last night because it was too hot."
Interrogation mode activated.
Disclaim0r: I love my dad and my mom. I really do. They're like my children. But I really hate when they just start demanding answers for NO FUCKING REASON.
"WHAT IS THAT WEBPAGE?" My Dad axes me.
"Oh..." I look back at the screen. "It's just a message board."
"YEAH BUT WHAT IS IT?"
"It's teamliquid. *cough*"
"WHAT?"
"Teamliquid."
"WHAT IS THAT? IS IT GAMING OR WHAT?"
"Uh... y..yeah, there's threads about video games, but also a lot of other stuff."
"IS IT ABOUT THAT GAME YOU PLAY?" (obviously referring to StarCraft. I should take a time-out here to mention that I've told him about Teamliquid before this, but that's moot, because I can tell him the name of the game I'm playing a TRILLION BILLION times, but he persistently refers to it as 'that one game you always play')
"Uh, yes."
"WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT IT? DO YOU JUST LIKE TALKING TO PEOPLE ON IT OR WHAT?" What the fuck? I think to myself.
"Uh, sure."
*abrupt conversation change*
"WAS IT TOO COLD LAST NIGHT?" (Remember now, I *just* told him that it was too hot last night)
"No, it was really hot. I woke up like 4 times because I was dehydrated and needed to drink some water."
/scene
Sometimes it seems like my parents ask me questions, but don't really listen to the answers. It frustrates me because it seems like they just want me to make money and make babies. I think it's hard for them to accept that their daughter is an ambitionless nerd. I figure I'll get married "eventually", but then again, I really don't care much about that right now. Weird, right? I hate this screwed-up society. I have to be pressured to be "normal", and I really feel like many questions that people ask are just probing for a satisfactory answer, and not the actual truth.
lol at calling your parents "like your children." no offense, but i bet big cash that they treat you like a kid and typing that out was your internet way of getting even.
from your post, I can you're not good at holding a conversation. elaborate and don't just say or yes or no. he was being sweet to you and trying get you engaged but you couldn't see that so you had an awkward conversation.
I really feel like many questions that people ask are just probing for a satisfactory answer, and not the actual truth.
Did you just figure this out recently? I knew this since I was four or something and it's always been one of those things that really get on my nerves.
Honest question by the way, I really want to know. For science.
On May 03 2013 05:42 -_- wrote: from your post, I can you're not good at holding a conversation.
From your post, I can you're not very good at communicating in general.
Relax! No need for bon mots!
But lets be honest with ourselves here. You just described your Dad desperately trying initiate conversation with you as "Interrogation Mode."
Oh yeah, if you want your Dad to remember what you tell, you can't give him abrupt little replies. If you listed 10 facts out of the blue about Zebras, nobody would be able to remember any of them. But if you tell a story about them with plenty of context, people will.
On May 03 2013 05:41 Emzeeshady wrote: I understand but you mean about being pressured to be normal. Even my closest friends don't know that I play SC2 and they definitely don't know that I watch it.
seriously? isn't it kinda strange to call them your friends if you can't even tell them you play sc2?
i'm proud of all of the things i'm interested in, all of my hobbies, all of the types of music i listen to, etc etc, and don't hold it back from my friends. and sure, many don't have the same interests, but they'd rather be friends with and respect someone who is self confident and unashamed of the things he likes.
I laughed at this, sorry. I personally took the initiative to introduce TL to my parents and siblings by showing them some cool blogs and matches, so now they want me to get off all the time.
On May 03 2013 05:42 -_- wrote: from your post, I can you're not good at holding a conversation.
From your post, I can you're not very good at communicating in general.
From your post, I can tell that you like carrots and apples.
Lol. Okay, let's keep this going. From your post, I can see that you enjoy insulting people's intelligence.
More on topic, everybody is weird in some way or another, and IMO you're kidding yourself if you think you're going to always get fulfilling conversation. I enjoyed the rant.
On May 03 2013 05:42 -_- wrote: from your post, I can you're not good at holding a conversation.
From your post, I can you're not very good at communicating in general.
From your post, I can tell that you like carrots and apples.
Lol. Okay, let's keep this going. From your post, I can see that you enjoy insulting people's intelligence.
More on topic, everybody is weird in some way or another, and IMO you're kidding yourself if you think you're going to always get fulfilling conversation. I enjoyed the rant.
On May 03 2013 05:30 ninazerg wrote: Sometimes it seems like my parents ask me questions, but don't really listen to the answers. It frustrates me because it seems like they just want me to make money and make babies. I think it's hard for them to accept that their daughter is an ambitionless nerd. I figure I'll get married "eventually", but then again, I really don't care much about that right now. Weird, right? I hate this screwed-up society. I have to be pressured to be "normal", and I really feel like many questions that people ask are just probing for a satisfactory answer, and not the actual truth.
I sympathize so much with this, except the "ambitionless nerd" part.
The part of society I specifically like to make fun of is the fact that everyone says with pride that they aren't racist, but then they're judgmental about some stupid things like the games you play and the people you meet. Personally, my parents are very open-minded about my interests, but then they judge me for not wanting to spend time with them as often as they would like; I'm a very individual person. In the outside world it gets even worse, especially since I'm in high school. Tiny, insignificant events get heavily inflated in importance. Many people are thought of as lesser, in some way or another, for being of a different sexuality. Sure we're progressing in the pro-gay legislation in the United States, but just look at what happened to African Americans. They got their legislation long ago, but they are still heavily and publicly discriminated against in some corners of the country. The worst part about all of this is that everyone participates in prejudice in some way or another. Some more than others, but everyone does it. Yes, I know it applies to me as well. It's another part of the human condition; due to our abilities of deduction, we try to learn a lot about a person by hearing a little because we desire efficiency. Unfortunately, first impressions are almost always wrong, and it is more difficult than it seems to suppress our judgment of people based on first impressions. It can then go the extra mile when someone is too stubborn to let go of their early judgments. Then, ironically, all this actually makes friends important not only from the practicality of teamwork, but also from the emotional boon they grant us. Instead of everyone seeing us as we appear at first, we can open ourselves out to our friends, making us happy to be who we are. Where there is sadness there is happiness, because otherwise the world would be fucking boring.
Oh, and although I said I'm very individual, of course I have friends and regard them highly. I'm just an introvert who has to get away from social interactions every so often.
A friend of mine likes the TL random pics thread which I link to him from time to time. Let's face it, it beats all the unfunny picture sites, usually. My brother was shaking his head and went like:"No man, no." when he saw me on TL. But then again he knew SlayerS'BoxeR and korean starcraft leagues so I have decided to forever forgive him his insolence. My parents never cared or still don't care with my little brother who plays some terrible P2W FPS way too much. I at least tried to get him interested in T:A or something cooler.
Oh,yeah and my schoolmates never knew I was into BW. Not even my old friends who I used to play BW a lot as kids with. Maybe I should've told them that TL exists and it's really fun. But I've never been comfortable telling others anything about myself, mostly because people seem dickish to me when they do that: being enthusiastic and shit.
e. And at the same time my mom keeps saying everything bad in this world comes from FPS-games, or games in general. I've told her about all the statistics and research that goes into gaming but she keeps on bashing. I guess some people just need a scapegoat. I'm not someone who enjoys arguing so I keep talking of myself to bare minimum and shield myself from her narrow views.
On May 03 2013 05:40 kollin wrote: My parents think everybody here is a sexual predator >.>
Four thousand messages with those sex offenders?! Do you know how much trouble you are in, young man?
Holy shit, that's hilarious hahaha
Goodness gracious! Did you learn that kind of language here too?!
Your son's behaviour has been appalling, to say the least. He doesn't even know who or what I am and he's told me what country he lives in, and what his xbox live handle is.
I can see we're suffering from mass dyslexia here, so let's dissect this conversation down a bit. Our good friend and neighbor, -_-, posted the following:
from your post, I can you're not good at holding a conversation.
"I can you're not" <- a whole word is missing, either "see" or "tell". Therefore, I reply with:
From your post, I can you're not very good at communicating in general.
But then you guys did it wrong:
From your post, I can tell that you like carrots and apples. From your post, I can tell it's your birthday. :D
From your posts, I can tell you all like SKIM MILK.
On May 03 2013 06:50 ninazerg wrote: I can see we're suffering from mass dyslexia here, so let's dissect this conversation down a bit. Our good friend and neighbor, -_-, posted the following:
On May 03 2013 06:50 ninazerg wrote: I can see we're suffering from mass dyslexia here, so let's dissect this conversation down a bit. Our good friend and neighbor, -_-, posted the following:
On May 03 2013 06:50 ninazerg wrote: I can see we're suffering from mass dyslexia here, so let's dissect this conversation down a bit. Our good friend and neighbor, -_-, posted the following:
from your post, I can you're not good at holding a conversation.
"I can you're not" <- a whole word is missing, either "see" or "tell". Therefore, I reply with:
From your post, I can you're not very good at communicating in general.
But then you guys did it wrong:
From your post, I can tell that you like carrots and apples. From your post, I can tell it's your birthday. :D
From your posts, I can tell you all like SKIM MILK.
You put a period outside of the quotation marks around "tell."
And you're not going to improve your relationship with your Dad if you miss the point of a statement and focus on trivialities!
You don't put periods inside the quotation marks, especially when categorizing items, such as "giraffes", "candles", "DVDs", or "birds". Normally, you don't need quotation marks for categorizing, but in this case, since I was talking about specific words you could use in a sentence, the rules of the Queen's English dictate that I must use the quotation marks.
Also, you're wrong.
Also, my Dad and I are going to watch a movie now, so please, help yourself to some crow. It's like chicken, I hear.
This was slightly amusing but the title led me on for something massive. This was almost as disappointing as that blog about "worst parents ever" with some spoiled brat whining about his private school, high IQ and not getting to play videogames while i expect some horror story of abuse or alcohol and what not.
Next time include more drama, perhaps you murdered someone and they found out? IT'S LIKE YOU´RE NOT EVEN TRYING JESUS!
On May 03 2013 07:13 unkkz wrote: This was slightly amusing but the title led me on for something massive. This was almost as disappointing as that blog about "worst parents ever" with some spoiled brat whining about his private school, high IQ and not getting to play videogames.
Next time include more drama, perhaps you murdered someone and they found out? IT'S LIKE YOU´RE NOT EVEN TRYING JESUS!
whoa I must have low standards or something, I really enjoyed this post. I think the replies are pretty funny . It definitely sounds like the dad is trying to communicate with poor Nina. It makes sense - the only reason the dad would forget what she just said is because he's stressed, trying to find something to talk to her about and maintain a conversation. That's my best guess.
On May 03 2013 06:50 ninazerg wrote: I can see we're suffering from mass dyslexia here, so let's dissect this conversation down a bit. Our good friend and neighbor, -_-, posted the following:
from your post, I can you're not good at holding a conversation.
"I can you're not" <- a whole word is missing, either "see" or "tell". Therefore, I reply with:
From your post, I can you're not very good at communicating in general.
But then you guys did it wrong:
From your post, I can tell that you like carrots and apples. From your post, I can tell it's your birthday. :D
From your posts, I can tell you all like SKIM MILK.
You put a period outside of the quotation marks around "tell."
And you're not going to improve your relationship with your Dad if you miss the point of a statement and focus on trivialities!
You don't put periods inside the quotation marks, especially when categorizing items, such as "giraffes", "candles", "DVDs", or "birds". Normally, you don't need quotation marks for categorizing, but in this case, since I was talking about specific words you could use in a sentence, the rules of the Queen's English dictate that I must use the quotation marks.
Also, you're wrong.
Also, my Dad and I are going to watch a movie now, so please, help yourself to some crow. It's like chicken, I hear.
On May 03 2013 06:50 ninazerg wrote: I can see we're suffering from mass dyslexia here, so let's dissect this conversation down a bit. Our good friend and neighbor, -_-, posted the following:
from your post, I can you're not good at holding a conversation.
"I can you're not" <- a whole word is missing, either "see" or "tell". Therefore, I reply with:
From your post, I can you're not very good at communicating in general.
But then you guys did it wrong:
From your post, I can tell that you like carrots and apples. From your post, I can tell it's your birthday. :D
From your posts, I can tell you all like SKIM MILK.
You put a period outside of the quotation marks around "tell."
And you're not going to improve your relationship with your Dad if you miss the point of a statement and focus on trivialities!
You can put periods inside or outside the quotation marks. Inside is more typical of British English, while outside is typical of American English. As long as you're consistent with the usage, it doesn't really matter.
On May 03 2013 06:50 ninazerg wrote: I can see we're suffering from mass dyslexia here, so let's dissect this conversation down a bit. Our good friend and neighbor, -_-, posted the following:
from your post, I can you're not good at holding a conversation.
"I can you're not" <- a whole word is missing, either "see" or "tell". Therefore, I reply with:
From your post, I can you're not very good at communicating in general.
But then you guys did it wrong:
From your post, I can tell that you like carrots and apples. From your post, I can tell it's your birthday. :D
From your posts, I can tell you all like SKIM MILK.
You put a period outside of the quotation marks around "tell."
And you're not going to improve your relationship with your Dad if you miss the point of a statement and focus on trivialities!
You can put periods inside or outside the quotation marks. Inside is more typical of British English, while outside is typical of American English. As long as you're consistent with the usage, it doesn't really matter.
Ninja'd
I have to say that -_- seems very reasonable with his comments.
If you let your parents know a little about the pro scene, maybe show them a video or two, I bet they would catch on. Thinking about it as a sport helps people I think. Or perhaps it's just that other people find it amusing I call it a kind of sport. Though I admit I know nothing of your parents.
On May 03 2013 09:07 32 wrote: If you let your parents know a little about the pro scene, maybe show them a video or two, I bet they would catch on. Thinking about it as a sport helps people I think. Or perhaps it's just that other people find it amusing I call it a kind of sport. Though I admit I know nothing of your parents.
Both of my parents know about the pro-scene in StarCraft, but pay no attention to it. Some things just can't be helped though; I can't force them to follow my interests.
On May 03 2013 05:42 -_- wrote: from your post, I can you're not good at holding a conversation.
From your post, I can you're not very good at communicating in general.
Relax! No need for bon mots!
But lets be honest with ourselves here. You just described your Dad desperately trying initiate conversation with you as "Interrogation Mode."
Oh yeah, if you want your Dad to remember what you tell, you can't give him abrupt little replies. If you listed 10 facts out of the blue about Zebras, nobody would be able to remember any of them. But if you tell a story about them with plenty of context, people will.
You don't know for certain that her dad really cares and wants to have a conversation though. My dad used to ask me questions like this and I would tell him stories of awesome games I'd seen recently or funny threads and he just zoned me out and kept asking around as if I hadn't said anything. Still love him, but he did.
my dad's like this when he's drunk haha. always yells questions and doesn't even listen to the answer. if your dad is like mine, he's not trying to be a dick, he's probably just old and bad at communication. like others have said, be more open. even if your dad doesn't remember what you say, show him love and respect and he should start to reciprocate.
The only thing missing to make this blog derailment official and fully fledged is to have the tank tank revolution background for a page or two. Well played Mom and Kollin.
On topic: I feel like parents only ask to make sure you aren't dying/insane/in trouble and if the answer to their inquisitions is something tamer than Porn/Drugs/Becoming a Black Metal band groupie they stop listening sometimes. Just today I was on TL typing away on my mechanical keyboard and my dad come's in and asks what I'm working so hard on in here. "Nothing, just posting on the TL forums dad. It's not work." "Oh. ok." I think he lost interest at "posting" lol
I don't mind conversation, but there's a time and a place. Parents often demand peace and quiet time, or some space, I too required this at times as a stroppy teenager, but on other times could have great conversations.
I just hate monosyllabic small-talk, same as in any job I've worked. It's so fucking awkward I don't know why people bother half the time
On May 03 2013 05:42 -_- wrote: from your post, I can you're not good at holding a conversation.
From your post, I can you're not very good at communicating in general.
Relax! No need for bon mots!
But lets be honest with ourselves here. You just described your Dad desperately trying initiate conversation with you as "Interrogation Mode."
Oh yeah, if you want your Dad to remember what you tell, you can't give him abrupt little replies. If you listed 10 facts out of the blue about Zebras, nobody would be able to remember any of them. But if you tell a story about them with plenty of context, people will.
You don't know for certain that her dad really cares and wants to have a conversation though. My dad used to ask me questions like this and I would tell him stories of awesome games I'd seen recently or funny threads and he just zoned me out and kept asking around as if I hadn't said anything. Still love him, but he did.
Hm, yeah... it seems that only the very beginning of the conversation matters to them, and the rest hinges on your response. And the "beginning of the conversation" is always their first real contribution: in this case, "WHAT IS THAT WEBPAGE?"
You responded, "o, its jus' a mesh ujj bored"
Of course, he's probably not going to know what that means, because he doesn't keep up with technology or "what all the cool kids are doing these days." Thus is he launched, like a Labrador when he expects his tennis ball to be thrown one direction, but his master throws it in another one, into that boggy cloud of demential confusion, out of which none over 40 has ever been seen returning.
In his vain attempt to climb out of the mire, he continues mucking through until he cannot bear to try to understand any longer, and tries instead to return to the original point, latching on to whatever he remembers comprehending. Had he listened to your first words a bit better, he may have saved himself by helping to fix the problem of uncomfortable nighttime temperatures.
I often pity how "normal" and "society-driven" my family members are (and others in general). But then I ask, "Where are all the weird people? You know, the ones with long beards and their own cornucopia of deities? Where are the ones with devices of their own creation in the backyard that tend the gardens and the grass for them, a problem they have solved and not simply settled with giving up search of the answer?"
And then I realize, perhaps they have left society, and I am still inside it. And do I really want to leave society, or can people of this kind be found within it? What a luxury that would be!
On May 06 2013 04:02 catplanetcatplanet wrote: I was Mom. Sorry for derailing your thread, I suffered the punishment that came with making an alt account!
It's fine. o.o
If I made some thread where it was like "I'm hosting a Pong tournament on May 23rd, with a prize of 25 dollars for the winner, let me know if you want to sign up!" and then it drifted off into sexual predators and grammar mistakes, I might be a bit peeved, but in this case, nah.
You know, I'm quite glad my parents completely limited my internet usage until a comparatively late age. Sadly it prevented me from following Progaming properly till 2008 (I would have loved to start in 2006).
Their principle reason, I summarized in a song: "everySinglePersonOnTheInternet'sAPedoPHILE" repeat
You are acting like 12. Your parents are just concerned about you. They are just checking what is up with you and what you are doing in the internet as things happening nowadays can be shitty, predators and shit.
You should be thankful your dad is taking time doing this, just to make sure you wont end up a hooker or have daddy issues. Meh, you wont understand this until you are old enough..
Just try to improve your conversation skills with your parents as they are trying too. Explain SC2 stuff like you would explain to a child - that should work. Your lucky they even try and are concerned... kids these days..
@^ yeah, I heard Memes weren't the best idea here.
Anyhow, I'm typing this from my iPhone because everything is from my iPhone because kindred spirit. Meh.
"Go find a wife, then go with (fNacks) and (ZombiE) to MLG all you want. I understand video games aren't evil but they ARE an irresponsible waste of time. Besides, (fNacks and ZombiE) are four years younger than you, while you still live here. And you're welcome, but at least be responsible!". (My family is awesome. Superpeople really. Can't complain about a single word of that, as she's right! I do want to be independent an I'm capable but comfortable.)
And so, Ninazerg draws out this shotgun toting, puma scaring, rattlesnake killing, Ford loving, botanical science performing confidence-ist's confession: that whatever girls waiting in line at Disneyland think ("are you Clark Kent?"- and my reply, "nee'r 'eard of 'im"- great, right?), I too am afraid of my parents and am an ambitionless nerd.
That being said...
Talking offhand with my dad about Starcraft is ezpz. In fact he won an IdrA bet with me. He jus doesn't know it yet and wouldn't care.
Still, this is a large partly political forum that's sponsored by Barracuda Networks. 100% true and if your parents listen to talk radio you're good to go with that.
Still, if they ask what You're posting about... Ah, well... Be honest...
Man, public admission can feel really good sometimes.
On May 18 2013 15:53 Jrocker152 wrote: Still, this is a large partly political forum that's sponsored by Barracuda Networks. 100% true and if your parents listen to talk radio you're good to go with that.
Still, if they ask what You're posting about... Ah, well... Be honest...
I assume he wasn't actually yelling like you made it seem with the capital letters.
All parents do the random questioning thing to their kids. It's part of parenthood. It's usually because they're worried about something but don't want a direct confrontation for fear of setting you off or being wrong about the source of concern. It's a common aspect of parent-offspring interaction during adolescence. If you don't like it, just ask them directly, 'do you have something to talk about?', the next time they make enquiries. And I advise not getting overly frustrated or lashing out, openly or passively. That doesn't help anyone and the issue(s) remain unresolved. Just tell them to get to what's on their minds so that you guys can talk it out without having to wade through the ambiguity and awkwardness.
To me, it seems like he was just finding out what you are up to. He is your father after all so if he asks the same questions again, just answer it and eventually he'll move on like he did now My family and friends are already aware of my SC/TL and there are no problems from what I can tell lol.
On May 18 2013 15:53 Jrocker152 wrote: Still, this is a large partly political forum that's sponsored by Barracuda Networks. 100% true and if your parents listen to talk radio you're good to go with that.
Still, if they ask what You're posting about... Ah, well... Be honest...
This is where you lost me.
General section has a lot of political/news stuff. Yet I was honest when asked where I was posting. (Led to a "well then to you, it's a multi forum- including a heavy dose of Starcraft!" from those asking.)
Yeah, I struggle with not being vague... My brain has this strange assumption that all people are almost clairvoyant.
Oh yeah- Barracuda Networks sponsors a lot of talk radio, and radio in general. They are also TL sponsors, so it's a little connection. This is part of how I got my father to talk about "Greg Fields" and where he will go with his largely Starcraft influenced life.
Anyway, that^^ is a really embarrassing admission for 23 in June so... Considered editing it but 1. It's relevant here and 2. It's true. I don't want to be allowed to have a "net personality", and it did feel like a relief of sorts to post it.
Still hope the only folks who see it are the 4%. And it's not as bad as my insomnia-influenced monkey rants.
Edit: baaaaaaah! I just reread. I post like I'm talking so in written format it messes people up. I'd have made that gesture people make when they mean, "but back to the main point,"; the part you don't get is not a continuation of the previous point but rather an abrupt switch to trying to help- that's something to tell anti-video gaming parents if you want to still maintain honesty.
On May 19 2013 01:30 kollin wrote: What the fuck are you on O_O
People do ask me that. Technically, I'm on Mercury from the '90's plus newness to the Internet. Mercury in immunization shots caused many Asperger's Syndrome cases, and I'm one of them. Whenever I seem like I'm not sober (teetotal) I chalk it up to that I guess. Or sometimes insomnia. I have a really rough time trying to sleep.
Edit: This page will always say it better than me.