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ShoCkeyy
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koreasilver
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EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
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drug_vict1m
844 Posts
just chill and dont give a fuck about them.be happy with her. | ||
kidd
United States2848 Posts
I would hate to have that wrath focused on me, good luck with that. | ||
JudgeMathis
Cuba1286 Posts
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ilovehnk
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
I'm assuming you're not in some super long distance relationship, it's not as if you're significantly losing anything by not leaving... you just caused a shitstorm of trouble. not worth it. sure her parents are retarded, but you have to deal with it, and what you guys did didn't help. | ||
Chill
Calgary25938 Posts
When this was going on you weren't holding your girlfriend back and trying to calm her down? Or leaving? | ||
Raithed
China7077 Posts
sorry i went off topic but yah. | ||
LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
I say you guys just save up and get your own place if you want to avoid shit like this. | ||
GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
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Quesadilla
United States1812 Posts
On January 21 2009 02:07 kidd wrote: Lol your girlfriend is quite the pyscho if from one single argument she put a hole in the wall, broke her closet, and threw a shoe box at her own grandmother... Am I missing anything. I would hate to have that wrath focused on me, good luck with that. This is what I thought. And she's not 21, switch the numbers. | ||
freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
I would have done that. | ||
zOula...
United States898 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
On January 21 2009 02:32 Quesadilla wrote: This is what I thought. And she's not 21, switch the numbers. it all makes sense now | ||
CrownRoyal
Vatican City State1872 Posts
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On January 21 2009 02:24 Chill wrote: ? When this was going on you weren't holding your girlfriend back and trying to calm her down? Or leaving? That's what I was thinking too. Didn't you try and calm your gf down? If it really started going downhill you should have kissed her goodnight and pleasantly left the place. Tell her that you'll see her the next day and say that you don't want to cause any trouble for her. The best thing to do in these situations is be nice to the parents. Even if you hate them, and they always act like this, you have to put up with it. Until you are both financially and mentally ready to move in together you should be super polite and courteous to her family. Let me also add that if you do get into a serious relationship, you'll probably have some occasions where you'll meet up with her family again. If you were polite and courteous before you moved out then you won't have as many problems later. | ||
onepost
Canada297 Posts
People are insane. | ||
PH
United States6173 Posts
That situation was a bit different since she was still a minor... To be completely honest, I am generally terrible when it comes to a *girl's parents. My appearance generally isn't all that encouraging from their perspective, I guess. | ||
EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
xD | ||
CommanderFluffy
Taiwan1059 Posts
"supper ultra christian people" gg dude | ||
Frits
11782 Posts
And your girlfriend needs to calm down, how old is she? 12? Stop being a dumb stereotypical teen and learn to adapt to other people's environment. If her mom is threatening with calling the cops Im pretty sure you have overstayed your welcome. Now whenever you will come over it's going to be incredibly awkward. Maybe her mom just had a bad day. "BOOHOO FUCK YOU YOU'RE NOT MY DAD" What if you had to take care of your brother's home, would you think it was reasonable if some kid refused to leave when it's getting late? edit: Stop bringing religion into this, just stop. | ||
EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
Real Christians are not like that, we love other people and want to share God's love for them. | ||
intoyourrainbOW
United States168 Posts
On January 21 2009 02:24 Chill wrote: ? When this was going on you weren't holding your girlfriend back and trying to calm her down? Or leaving? Seriously. Throwing a shoebox at an old lady? (seriously NOT cool) Breaking a closet? Throwing weights into walls? Your gf has issues. But are you really 20? It seems like you didn't do anything but stand back and watch like a pussy. Dude, grow some balls. And why mention her parents are "supper ultra" Christians, like that has ANY relavence to what happened? Keep that kind of bullshit to yourself plz. | ||
Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
On January 21 2009 03:29 CommanderFluffy wrote: sounds to me like your gf's crazy, then i read, "supper ultra christian people" gg dude So first you thought she was crazy. Then the apparent religious background of the parents made you realize that their telling him to be out of the house by 11 PM cease to have merit. Her disrespect and violence was suddenly justified and she became the victim. Please help me understand this. On January 21 2009 03:32 Frits wrote: Wow this is a bunch of dumb shit, when a person asks you to leave their house you do it, no questions asked, you just leave and diffuse the situation. Just say goodbye to your girlfriend and come back another time. Agreed. Whether they're insane or "Christian" is irrelevant in this context. You are on their property and you should respect them and that fact. Your girlfriend doesn't seem to know much respect either. She doesn't care if her uncle is paying for the [expenses of the] house? She should be glad her parents/relatives love (it could be something else, this is just a placeholder at the moment) her enough to let her stay with that attitude. | ||
cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
Also, if she wants to do what she wants, she needs to get her own place. As long as she lives with Mommy and Daddy (or anyone else who owns the house and is paying for it), she can't complain about their rules. That's like trying to have the privileges of adulthood without taking the responsibilities of adulthood. EDIT: Frits is right. Your gf sounds like a child and you should have left right away. | ||
arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
And I disagree with those who think she is 12. I think she is the only who did the right thing. That's what you have to do to that type of parents. You have to show them their place from the beginning, otherwise they will do the same shit over and over again. Maybe she overreacted, but that's definitively the right attitude about this. And the big losers from all this shit is again her parents. Because,. no matter what will happen to this relation, soon she will get a job and will have her life. And soon after that, those parents will start to miss her. | ||
dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
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Raithed
China7077 Posts
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6733 Posts
to those saying his girlfriend is a psycho: maybe think about the fact that there's probably a history of arguments and fighting? anyway good luck with this man, wouldnt wanna be in that kind of situation | ||
Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
It's easier said than done to just "ignore it b/c we are old enough", b/c she lives w/her parents. I would just try to get on the parents' good side and spend more time @ your house instead of her house. | ||
sprawlers
Norway439 Posts
In short your girlfriend is psycho. | ||
Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
On January 21 2009 04:21 arbiter_md wrote: That's what happens when there's no tolerance in the world. I mean, had any of you four, any kind of tolerance, and the things would have been fine. Now, the idiots of the house of course are her parents. Unfortunately, there are many parents that don't understand yet, that a 20 years old girl has the right for private life. The problem is, they think they have the right to decide about her life just because they give her some fucking house and food. I have to disagree. The daughter is living in a house that is not her own, the owners obviously tolerate her enough to let her stay in a place she's not paying for. And they are not "deciding about her life." They are giving her rules that she must abide by as long as she is under their roof. They should have kicked her out long ago, because she obviously does not need their housing or food (if she did, she does not seem grateful in the slightest). And I disagree with those who think she is 12. I think she is the only who did the right thing. That's what you have to do to that type of parents. You have to show them their place from the beginning, otherwise they will do the same shit over and over again. Maybe she overreacted, but that's definitively the right attitude about this. And the big losers from all this shit is again her parents. Because,. no matter what will happen to this relation, soon she will get a job and will have her life. And soon after that, those parents will start to miss her. I think you have the roles reversed. I must admit that if I were to come from a worldview where respect, specifically for family and parents, is not valued, then I would have to agree with you. Parents can be abusive, but children can also be plain brats. The blame could be on both sides, but that doesn't justify bad behavior on either party. | ||
FREEloss_ca
Canada603 Posts
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VooDank
Canada252 Posts
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
On January 21 2009 03:32 Frits wrote: Wow this is a bunch of dumb shit, when a person asks you to leave their house you do it, no questions asked, you just leave and diffuse the situation. Just say goodbye to your girlfriend and come back another time. What you're doing is basically setting yourself up for never getting along with those people. They have every right to tell you to leave, no matter how unreasonable it seems to you. And your girlfriend needs to calm down, how old is she? 12? Stop being a dumb stereotypical teen and learn to adapt to other people's environment. If her mom is threatening with calling the cops Im pretty sure you have overstayed your welcome. Now whenever you will come over it's going to be incredibly awkward. Maybe her mom just had a bad day. "BOOHOO FUCK YOU YOU'RE NOT MY DAD" What if you had to take care of your brother's home, would you think it was reasonable if some kid refused to leave when it's getting late? edit: Stop bringing religion into this, just stop. I don't fully agree with this post here. First part theoretically would be fine, but you don't just walk out on your gf in a situation / environment like that, or you're a shitty person. Yes, she should calm down. But as others have mentioned the past history of fights may have had a huge role here. Yes, you should've helped to try and diffuse the situation, but not by leaving. Ok, you tried, and they were unreasonable, but I'm not sure you tried the right way (although asking "why teh haet?!" sounds fine to me)...maybe it isn't the right way for those people. "What if you had to take care of your brother's home, would you think it was reasonable if some kid refused to leave when it's getting late?" Well, guess what, I'm pretty sure he didn't just go and tell her uncle "Fuck off you twat you can't order me around" because OP's post pretty much shows he (while being upset for right reasons) still knows the basic rules of respect. I think it was more like "she doesn't want me to leave, please state a reason / talk this over with her / etc. " which, imo again, is perfectly fine. Having a set time of you leaving beforehand sounds like a better idea (if her parents are that overprotective / strict / abusive / dumb / zealous / whatever) to avoid situations like these... I think if she didn't just explode by the first sentence like "me wantsie meh boyfriand ovar here, you no tell me!" and acted a bit mature, or if she didn't, should you have stepped in to tone things down and politely ask, this wouldn't have escalated. I still think it's rude to just wanting to throw you out, expressing you're not really wanted over there at all... But your girlfriend is also almost equally at fault for this, and so are you a tiny bit (but I'm pretty sure it's easy to analyze the situation afterwards, in the heat of the moment I don't think I would've acted a lot different - I would protect my gf even from her own parents / uncle / whatever, should the need arise). I'm glad if it works out for you though, she seems to have suffered enough there from what you describe. I'm pretty sure the reason for loving her isn't that she acts like a psycho Should be a lot better if you can work moving together out, good luck! | ||
Frits
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On January 21 2009 04:39 Xeofreestyler wrote: Ermm to those saying his girlfriend is a psycho: maybe think about the fact that there's probably a history of arguments and fighting? anyway good luck with this man, wouldnt wanna be in that kind of situation The story starts with the girls uncle coming in and "acting like her dad", which warrants a "fuck off" from his girlfriend. Seriously, what does "acting like her dad" mean anyway, and how is an uncle not allowed to act like someone's dad? And how is telling that someone has to leave at 11pm unreasonable in your own house? It's not like if her dad was there she'd be acting any differently, it's just some lame excuse. I also don't think there's a history of fighting at all, she just sounds like an egotistical person. | ||
Sadist
United States6978 Posts
On January 21 2009 03:34 intoyourrainbOW wrote: Seriously. Throwing a shoebox at an old lady? (seriously NOT cool) Breaking a closet? Throwing weights into walls? Your gf has issues. But are you really 20? It seems like you didn't do anything but stand back and watch like a pussy. Dude, grow some balls. And why mention her parents are "supper ultra" Christians, like that has ANY relavence to what happened? Keep that kind of bullshit to yourself plz. Actually the SUPER nutbag christians are ridiculous in circumstances like these. We're talking nutbags, not the regular people. If they are nuts about something like christianity, it gives you an idea of how nuts they can be in a situation like this. Why anyone is taking offense I dont understand at all. | ||
Raidern
Brazil3811 Posts
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
On January 21 2009 05:31 Sadist wrote: Actually the SUPER nutbag christians are ridiculous in circumstances like these. We're talking nutbags, not the regular people. If they are nuts about something like christianity, it gives you an idea of how nuts they can be in a situation like this. Why anyone is taking offense I dont understand at all. I second that statement, but I admit that might be my prejudices (and bad experience) talking. Oh wait a second, I guess that's perfectly fine | ||
EsX_Raptor
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Frits
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On January 21 2009 05:37 EsX_Raptor wrote: Those are the extremists, they aren't truly Christian, they just make an image of God in their minds (God's infinite, thus I don't think you can) and follow it as it is, they are literally worshipping a graven image, just that it isn't physical, this leads to hate and anger and that's why many of them try to control other christians using bible references and taking them out of context for their own benefit and/or preaching doom to them. Uhmmm you realize that the OP's definition of "super ultra christians" can be pretty much anything right? And it's still irrelevant if you look at how this whole thing started, and escalated because the OP was being passive agressive by staying and letting his girlfriend spazz out while sitting there. I don't see why people who believe in god differently are less deserving of respect, they don't seem to be hurting anyone. | ||
EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
The OP does a poor job on describing what "acting like he is her dad" means, did he do it calmly? Did he do it in a mood like " alrite mate, it's getting a little bit late and my daughter/whatever has to go to sleep already, you guys can meet tomorrow nevertheless" or did he do it like "<putGirlsNameHere>! It is fucking late tell this prick to get the hell out of my house NOW!!!" Comments? | ||
ketomai
United States2789 Posts
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EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
This helps! | ||
KlaCkoN
Sweden1648 Posts
And with "gay" I mean that they have no buisness meddling with whom she's together with or in general ordering her around like a child. Well they could I guess, but in that case they may as well spend their retirement alone, without meeting their grandchildren. | ||
arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
On January 21 2009 04:56 Chromyne wrote: I have to disagree. The daughter is living in a house that is not her own, the owners obviously tolerate her enough to let her stay in a place she's not paying for. And they are not "deciding about her life." They are giving her rules that she must abide by as long as she is under their roof. They should have kicked her out long ago, because she obviously does not need their housing or food (if she did, she does not seem grateful in the slightest). The owners? Tolerate her enough to let her stay in the house? That comes from a part of the world where the respect for family is valued?:-) Trust me, in my part of the world the respect for family is valued and, actually I don't think there's any part of the world where the family is not important. The thing is, she did nothing out of the box, before they were disturbed, to say that she had to be tolerated somehow. I mean, they did nothing special to disturb somehow the other members of the house. So, why would mister uncle play a daddy role there? Because he is paying for the house?? Well, maybe she would better go and hook with some millionaire in this case, respecting his rules, instead of family rules. That's what a family is supposed to be? To remind her, how she has to respect some non-sense family rules, because is not paying anything? If there are some family rules, she has to understand those rules first, and agree with them, as part of the family. The whole family thing is based on good willing and tolerance. Not on some stupid rules, that says do this because this is my house and I pay for this. Yes, it is possible that there were some other issues between them before this all happened, but the thing that they had to make this scene when our hero was there, tells me that her parents have something with her personal life. And, yes I agree that the whole children-parents thing is complicated, but she's not a child anymore. And this means there are some principles that have to be respected. | ||
ThE_OsToJiY
Canada1167 Posts
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Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
On January 21 2009 05:56 arbiter_md wrote: The thing is, she did nothing out of the box, before they were disturbed, to say that she had to be tolerated somehow. I mean, they did nothing special to disturb somehow the other members of the house. All irrelevant. She did not have to antagonized the uncle or do something wrong. He just said that he wanted him out of the house by 11 PM. From the OP, the request seemed completely benign (or at least void of hostility) and the girlfriend's comments sounded more hostile. So, why would mister uncle play a daddy role there? Because he is paying for the house?? Well, maybe she would better go and hook with some millionaire in this case, respecting his rules, instead of family rules. I'm not quite sure what the OP means by being like her father (no explanation was given), so I'm just going to say this: He doesn't have to be her father to say what he said. He is the caretaker of the house, and he is saying he wants the boyfriend out by 11 PM. That's what a family is supposed to be? To remind her, how she has to respect some non-sense family rules, because is not paying anything? If there are some family rules, she has to understand those rules first, and agree with them, as part of the family. The whole family thing is based on good willing and tolerance. Not on some stupid rules, that says do this because this is my house and I pay for this. Yes, it is possible that there were some other issues between them before this all happened, but the thing that they had to make this scene when our hero was there, tells me that her parents have something with her personal life. This is under the assumption that the rules are actually stupid. The uncle can have his reasons, and we may never know what they are. Even if they ARE deemed as stupid, it is a relative. He could have said, "your boyfriend must be out by 4 AM," and that STILL could have been deemed as stupid. The point is not whether rules are stupid or not. Children usually think their parents' rules are "stupid" but they usually have merit. And, yes I agree that the whole children-parents thing is complicated, but she's not a child anymore. And this means there are some principles that have to be respected. Some principles but not other (I'm making assumptions about what you consider principles)? The daughter wants to be able to make decisions for herself (whether she can have other people in her room and how long, in this case). She wants independence. If she wants that, she needs to get out of that house and into her own home. | ||
lilpwnyIII
United States23 Posts
who the hell throws a shoebox at a grandmother and breaks a fucking closet just cuz her uncle (who is financially supporting her) tells her bf to leave the house b4 midnight? sounds like both u and ur gf are douchebags | ||
KlaCkoN
Sweden1648 Posts
On January 21 2009 06:20 Chromyne wrote: Some principles but not other (I'm making assumptions about what you consider principles)? The daughter wants to be able to make decisions for herself (whether she can have other people in her room and how long, in this case). She wants independence. If she wants that, she needs to get out of that house and into her own home. And if you read the Op you would have realized that's exactly what she is doing. | ||
diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
The only valid point you made is that indeed her parents can kick her out. If they think its justified to kick her out for having male visitors past 10 pm at age 20 they can do so. I just don't think deep down in their heart they are really THAT extreme. And if they are, I think its still the better choice cus even if you move out you still gonna have to choose between buckling down every single time or end the relation to your parents. And in case they would be that extreme, I think almost all people who value their individual freedom would have rather ended the relation than endure them till they die. | ||
Sadist
United States6978 Posts
On January 21 2009 05:35 Naib wrote: I second that statement, but I admit that might be my prejudices (and bad experience) talking. Oh wait a second, I guess that's perfectly fine sorry I guess i cant be prejudiced against a group of fanatics who believe in a space god. | ||
Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
On January 21 2009 06:34 KlaCkoN wrote: And if you read the Op you would have realized that's exactly what she is doing. I have read the OP, but I am discussing the principle behind it with arbiter_md. I am glad she is moving out. She should have done that a long time ago if she felt that stifled. On January 21 2009 06:35 damenmofa wrote: wow Chromyne by that logic, her parents are even the owners of her fuckin life. Please show me where my posts indicate or imply that the parents own her life. Just because they own the damn place doesn't mean that they can dictate their own morals and values. Just because her parents technically own that place, doesn't mean they can enforce whatever silly rules and values they think of upon her. Of course it does. Of course they can determine the rules and values of the house. It is just plain foolish to think otherwise. And why does everyone think the rules are "silly" or "stupid?" The next time you see a parent telling their child to not kick their brother or take toys from others that do not belong to them, tell them that they are not allowed enforce silly rules and values on their children. This case is even MORE insignificant. The uncle wants the boyfriend out of the house by 11 PM. It doesn't mean she has to buckle down and swallow everything. I think its completely justified to stand up for your own believes, breaking of closets and punching holes in the wall is probably not the best way to do it I admit that much. But still, the fact remains that your argument is ridiculous. You are absolutely right, and I never said she did. I said she had to respect the mother or uncle's decision. She can tell him she does not agree, and maybe they could have a DISCUSSION about it, but she chose an argument over a discussion. | ||
Chill
Calgary25938 Posts
oh god it makes sense now | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6733 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On January 21 2009 01:58 ShoCkeyy wrote: ..while her grandma is just yelling at me to get the fuck out that she has been wanting to call the cops on me for a while. OMFG THIS CRACKED ME UP SO BAD! HAHA There are some insaaaane people out there, seems like your gf has had enough of the shit. you'll work it out. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 21 2009 08:10 Chill wrote: LOL I JUST REALIZED WHO YOU ARE oh god it makes sense now LOL OMG hahahahhahahahaha It all makes sense | ||
EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
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MoeMoeKyun
United States215 Posts
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barbahaba0
Israel226 Posts
she sounds like (and i say it with total respect) a complete nuts and when/if u do break up do it in a clear room with no heavy/sharp objects and not in a populated place cause clearly she wont give a damn and the cops will come other than that hmmm try and teach her how to play starcraft maybe that will help lol | ||
d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
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lilsusie
3861 Posts
On January 21 2009 04:00 Savio wrote: Your girlfriend has serious anger issues man. Also, if she wants to do what she wants, she needs to get her own place. As long as she lives with Mommy and Daddy (or anyone else who owns the house and is paying for it), she can't complain about their rules. That's like trying to have the privileges of adulthood without taking the responsibilities of adulthood. EDIT: Frits is right. Your gf sounds like a child and you should have left right away. This. I don't care if you're 20 or you're 60, if you're living in someone else's house, you obey their rules. Simple as that. The uncle didn't say "gtfo NOW" he was like, "leave by 11pm" I think that's pretty reasonable. | ||
clazziquai
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10824 Posts
also, you are stupid for not leaving. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
When you live in someone else's house, you live by their rules. Period. They're the ones kind enough to provide you shelter, you don't disobey them. However, I know what it's like to have a girlfriend with unreasonable parents. At least you're both in your 20's and have the independence to do what you'd like. I don't have that luxury. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 21 2009 08:10 Chill wrote: LOL I JUST REALIZED WHO YOU ARE oh god it makes sense now Do tell. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
Her uncle never told me to gtfo by a certain time. Her mom lied about that trying to get me to leave which actually started most of the fighting. My girlfriend and her mother have a history of arguments, and my girlfriend has trust issues with her family. One time her father (which doesn't live with her) bought her a new car fully paid and everything. He was saving up for it for a while and then her mother and uncle decided to trick her into selling the car and giving them the money, which they used on a new kitchen for the house. Her mother is fucked up and so is the rest of her family. They lie about everything in order to get their way. My girlfriend doesn't usually throw shit around and make holes. She only got like that when they started to scream at me for no reason. By super duper christian, I did mean extremist. They take the word and just try to manipulate you with it. | ||
mahnini
United States6862 Posts
He was saving up for it for a while and then her mother and uncle decided to trick her into selling the car and giving them the money, which they used on a new kitchen for the house. ROFL | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
Yea they basically told her that a mechanic had a look at the car and that the car was bad blah blah blah... basically tricking her into selling the car. | ||
Snet
United States3573 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka26960 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
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Chill
Calgary25938 Posts
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
1) A wise thing to remember is never mess with old people at night. Just leave them alone. The older they are the earlier you leave. 2) Even a roommate might want you to leave by 11 pm. They have have to get up early and stuff. 3) Like people have said, its better to just leave and defuse the situation. It might even be a good idea to call up her uncle and apologize. A few kind words can completely disarm someone, and this minimal effort will cause your life to be less complicated. Even if you plan on getting revenge in the future, they will not expect it. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On January 21 2009 12:33 Chill wrote: Hmm, on second thought you and your girlfriend sound perfect for each other. I recommend marriage now. Why thank you chill -_-;; | ||
Pengu1n
United States552 Posts
lol and you think you got it bad? if my sisters boyfriend was told to leave and he refused my dad would be taking him out himself in a bodybag. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On January 21 2009 12:49 Pengu1n wrote: so let me get this straight...you were told to leave the house by 11pm (which sounds like a perfectly reasonable time to me as its pretty late) and you decided to disobey her parents and stay and watch your girlfriend stomp around like a spoiled raging lunatic bitch smashing holes through walls, breaking down closet doors screaming and yelling and attacking her poor lil grandma all because she didn't get her way? Not to mention she is 21 years old (acting like a 3 year old who jus got her candy taken away) living in her parents house (which the uncle is paying for) the least she can do is respect their rules. And now your complaining to tl.net that your mad because they called the cops on you when you decided to disobey her parents rules in their own home? lol and you think you got it bad? if my sisters boyfriend was told to leave and he refused my dad would be taking him out himself in a bodybag. I disobeyed because they disrespected me and also my girlfriend was already going nuts for them yelling at me for no reason. The reason why I even disobeyed also was because I wanted to make sure my girlfriend was going to be alright. | ||
Snet
United States3573 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On January 21 2009 02:07 kidd wrote: Lol your girlfriend is quite the pyscho if from one single argument she put a hole in the wall, broke her closet, and threw a shoe box at her own grandmother... Am I missing anything. I would hate to have that wrath focused on me, good luck with that. | ||
lilsusie
3861 Posts
On January 21 2009 12:56 ShoCkeyy wrote: I disobeyed because they disrespected me and also my girlfriend was already going nuts for them yelling at me for no reason. The reason why I even disobeyed also was because I wanted to make sure my girlfriend was going to be alright. ... they disrespected you by asking you to leave? | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
When we get into arguments we know how to communicate. We don't yell at each other and just fix our problem right then and there. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On January 21 2009 13:07 lilsusie wrote: ... they disrespected you by asking you to leave? No, they didn't ask me to leave at first. They just lied about her uncle saying for me to leave. Then my girlfriend got upset about them lying then her mother and grandmother started to yell at me about that they're going to call the cops for me to leave now. Then that's when hell broke lose with my girlfriend because they yelled at me with out a reason and threatened to call the police. Then when they finally asked me to leave I disregarded it because I wanted to make sure my girlfriend was going to be alright. | ||
lilsusie
3861 Posts
No matter how bad a relationship is between a daughter and mom, she's still her mom. If it wasn't for her your girlfriend would not even exist. She needs to show more respect to her mom, imo, she's 21 and living at the house rent free (i'm assuming) how can she have the audacity to scream at her for asking her bf to leave since it's getting late? You don't really have a position in this. You're the stranger in the situation that's been asked to leave, even if the non-house-owner girlfriend asks you to stay, it would have been the proper thing for you to leave first, then question it later. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On January 21 2009 13:15 lilsusie wrote: So the uncle didnt exactly come to you and ask you to leave. The mother came in and said "Uncle wants you to leave by 11" although he never said that. I dunno. I still cant sympathize with you, it's not your girlfriend's house - it's her mom/uncle's. =/ No matter how bad a relationship is between a daughter and mom, she's still her mom. If it wasn't for her your girlfriend would not even exist. She needs to show more respect to her mom, imo, she's 21 and living at the house rent free (i'm assuming) how can she have the audacity to scream at her for asking her bf to leave since it's getting late? You don't really have a position in this. You're the stranger in the situation that's been asked to leave, even if the non-house-owner girlfriend asks you to stay, it would have been the proper thing for you to leave first, then question it later. Well I would have left if they didn't threaten me at first and yelled at me. It was just reaction to take care of my girlfriend first and that's what I tried doing. how can she have the audacity to scream at her for asking her bf to leave since it's getting late? Well she didn't scream at her for that, she has asked me to leave before and I had left(different day of course). It was the fact that she lied about it and then promptly yelled at me instead. Then her mother and grandmother come out of no where saying they're going to call the cops. They asked me to leave and I told them no because I wanted to make sure my gf was going to be alright, then her mother yells "YOURE NOT MARRIED TO HER GTFO" which made me more upset and what not but I still wanted to make sure she was alright. After 5mins of screaming, yelling, I left. I didn't yell back of course. Just asked why will you call the cops on me for no reason. They didn't have a reason till they asked me to leave. | ||
fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On January 21 2009 13:29 fight_or_flight wrote: Nothing like a TL blog to set you strait. Well I like to come to TL to hear other peoples opinions. Great way to learn on having an open mind. | ||
Savio
United States1850 Posts
On January 21 2009 12:56 ShoCkeyy wrote: I disobeyed because they disrespected me and also my girlfriend was already going nuts for them yelling at me for no reason. The reason why I even disobeyed also was because I wanted to make sure my girlfriend was going to be alright. Yes, I am sure your presence made the whole situation a LOT better for your gf... Also, they disrespected you? You have to earn respect by acting like a man. That means being responsible and acting mature even when other adults act immature. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On January 21 2009 14:01 Savio wrote: Yes, I am sure your presence made the whole situation a LOT better for your gf... Also, they disrespected you? You have to earn respect by acting like a man. That means being responsible and acting mature even when other adults act immature. It's the same for them. They earn my respect by respecting me and all I've ever done was respect them till that happened. | ||
Savio
United States1850 Posts
On January 21 2009 14:03 ShoCkeyy wrote: It's the same for them. They earn my respect by respecting me and all I've ever done was respect them till that happened. I don't wanna be too hard on you, but I do think that by any way you measure it, you should have left their house when they made it plain that they wanted you to leave. By you staying and your gf throwing a tantrum, it just made you both look like younger people in adult bodies. I also think that you are the one who should be doing the earning of respect because 1. You are younger 2. You are dating their daughter whom THEY are taking care of at the moment. 3. You were in their house. You were not on equal footing with them. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On January 21 2009 14:10 Savio wrote: I don't wanna be too hard on you, but I do think that by any way you measure it, you should have left their house when they made it plain that they wanted you to leave. By you staying and your gf throwing a tantrum, it just made you both look like younger people in adult bodies. I also think that you are the one who should be doing the earning of respect because 1. You are younger 2. You are dating their daughter whom THEY are taking care of at the moment. 3. You were in their house. You were not on equal footing with them. Ok I'm younger yes, but they should of asked politely and not threatened me like they always have. They really don't take care of her, she basically takes care of herself, she usually buys the groceries in the house as well. And yes it's their house I understand but they still did not respect me by just yelling at me first and then threatening me. Which is why my gf got the way she was. EDIT: I understand that I should have acted differently, but it was in the moment and all I could of thought about was my gf being safe. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
A relationship isn't worth all this drama, trust me. No matter what. Within a few months you'll find a girl without a ton of emotional baggage. | ||
Savio
United States1850 Posts
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Its over now. Hopefully your gf will get her own place soon and it will be irrelevant what they think. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On January 21 2009 15:47 Savio wrote: I can see your point of view. When people act retarded (like when they yelled at you instead of just asking you politely to leave), it is offensive and we want to push back or at least not give them what they want. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Its over now. Hopefully your gf will get her own place soon and it will be irrelevant what they think. Yea well her family doesn't want me over now ;p but other than that we're moving in together. Just trying to find a place now. | ||
Brett
Australia3820 Posts
Does your girlfriend live in a trailer by any chance? Might explain it. | ||
Fen
Australia1848 Posts
On December 26 2008 16:54 Manifesto7 wrote: This blog brought to you by -WGT-Stars, whose other TL claims to fame were stealing pokemon cards and bragging about beating up homeless people with his friends. Shocky also is a graffiti artist who is forced to destroy property because he has nowhere else to paint. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=49&topic_id=84344 I know it's not ok to destroy some one's property but what other choice do we have? Also the sign got replaced within the next day so stfu. I think your an idiot. You should have left the house when you were asked. I disobeyed because they disrespected me You seem to think your some bigtime gangsta or something? However your really just an immature little shit who needs to learn how the real world works. Im glad you got a you got a girlfriend whos as big of an idiot as you (she brought all this shit on herself, and you sure as hell didnt help). Just do us all a favour and dont procreate. | ||
NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
Seriously dude, you want the real answer? Ditch your gf, she and her psycho family just ain't worth it. I don't know man, i have absolutely no respect for any adults older than me that can't speak politely in situation like this. This spells trouble, your gf is an emotional mess, i would jump off the train before it leaves right NOW. | ||
diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
The fact that she is old enough to move out is irrelevant for the faulty of this logic. The logic "parents own house/pay for kid -> kid has to obey" is simply false. Imagine she would be 10, so the option to move out wouldn't be given. Do you really think her only choice is to behave like a fuckin slave and do everything and respect everything their parents tell her, even if they are religious nuts?? God, the extreme form of "respect elders" value in asian cultures certainly leads to some dubious concepts about human rights on an individual basis. If her parents tell her to say a prayer before eating and she doesnt want to cus shes atheist, would you guys say she has to obey? Does "obediance towards parents" overrule "freedom of religion/belief" for you? | ||
zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Honestly, if you are 21 and want to do whatever you want, move and get your own apartment. Is it that hard? It's not like he asked for anything all that unreasonable. | ||
sprawlers
Norway439 Posts
On January 21 2009 21:38 damenmofa wrote: The fact that she is old enough to move out is irrelevant for the faulty of this logic. The logic "parents own house/pay for kid -> kid has to obey" is simply false. Imagine she would be 10, so the option to move out wouldn't be given. But she isn't 10 she is 21. If she was 10 most here would understand her behavior, though we would still think her a brat. After she is 18 she has no right to live by her parents anymore, thus when they make a rule you either accept it, cause the inconvenience doesn't outweigh the financial gain of staying home, or you move out. You take a shortened statement, "parents house, parents rules" and then spin it out of context, ignoring the fact that in this case it was a reasonable rule, which is why is that statement get used instead of; "parents house, parents rule, unless parents rules are unreasonable and conflicting with human rights." No one would come into a thread about Josef Fritzl and say, "parents house, parents rule" because almost no one really thinks that that it is the rule, to be obeyed in front of all others. Your post just ignores what context the statement is posted in and then use it as basis for a rant about asian culture. You don't have to be asian to see that this girl is a psycho, and the issue you bring up, though interesting, have nothing to do with the case in this blog. | ||
diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
Asian civilization was far ahead of western civilization a few hundred years ago, why do you think western civilization has caught up, if not surpassed all other civilizations (including asian)? Apart from geographical factors which encouraged strong competition on the governments side, the tradition of criticism plays a large role here. Criticism towards superiors/religion/cultural habits is a key value for any civilization and in that regard it saddens me to see that some people request strict obediance towards your parents as long as you live from their expenses. Sure these thoughts do not have much to do with the original topic directly, but why should this discussion stay on a low level if it can provide a basis for a much more prolific discussion? Denying someones right to criticize (disobediance is a form of criticism) because of hierarchical structures (financial dependence is just one example for such a structure) is just bad in general imo. | ||
haduken
Australia8267 Posts
so you throw a shoe at your grandma for moral reasons? does she look like George Bush? Seriously, anyone who starts a fight over moral reason with their parents + over 18 is a fucking retard. The end. When you are old enough, you should have the ability to resolve the issue without resorting to screaming and calling cops. Move out if you can't stand living there anymore. Or stfu and put up with it. Life isn't fair, Grow up. | ||
Frits
11782 Posts
Geez I'm so surprised. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
lol PM me when you're on Jerry Springer I wanna watch it. | ||
Frits
11782 Posts
Stealing pokemon cards, ughh seriously just go away forever from these forums. | ||
29 fps
United States5717 Posts
On January 21 2009 08:10 Chill wrote: LOL I JUST REALIZED WHO YOU ARE oh god it makes sense now anyone wanna explain this? im lost... maybe a little history on this guy might help explain things. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Why would she want someone like you hanging around and influencing her daughter? Seriously, are you in middle school or something? I suggest you find some new productive hobbies and act your age. | ||
Frits
11782 Posts
On January 21 2009 23:36 29 fps wrote: anyone wanna explain this? im lost... maybe a little history on this guy might help explain things. 2nd post on this page and the one below your post | ||
sprawlers
Norway439 Posts
I just think you are reading a bit to much into a generic comment, and though it might be a better topic than discussing if stars girlfriend is psycho, it's not very relevant. | ||
food
United States1951 Posts
On January 21 2009 23:22 damenmofa wrote: Im not ranting about asian culture nor am I taking peoples statements out of context. People never gave said context. The people I was talking about merely did posts like "you live in someones house, you obey their rules, simple as that". I was just pointing out that it is not "simple as that". The connection to asian culture simply came up in my mind because most people who posted like that are asians. Coupled with recent reflections about the state of civilizations I had in philosophy it made me realize that this kind of thinking is still strong in asian culture although other values and traditions have proven more successful. Asian civilization was far ahead of western civilization a few hundred years ago, why do you think western civilization has caught up, if not surpassed all other civilizations (including asian)? Apart from geographical factors which encouraged strong competition on the governments side, the tradition of criticism plays a large role here. Criticism towards superiors/religion/cultural habits is a key value for any civilization and in that regard it saddens me to see that some people request strict obediance towards your parents as long as you live from their expenses. Sure these thoughts do not have much to do with the original topic directly, but why should this discussion stay on a low level if it can provide a basis for a much more prolific discussion? Denying someones right to criticize (disobediance is a form of criticism) because of hierarchical structures (financial dependence is just one example for such a structure) is just bad in general imo. pretty brave statement from a german thought you guys brought up to only criticize yourself ure being disobedient to the great german spirit i used to apply the knowledge i gained immediately and everywhere, mostly to stick out. But that was years ago, when i was a silly teenager who lacked attention. I grew up and it became unimportant. | ||
food
United States1951 Posts
On January 21 2009 10:49 ShoCkeyy wrote: One time her father (which doesn't live with her) bought her a new car fully paid and everything. He was saving up for it for a while and then her mother and uncle decided to trick her into selling the car spilled my precious coffee all over the table this guy is so full of shit i cant believe it | ||
Pengu1n
United States552 Posts
On January 21 2009 21:38 damenmofa wrote: tl.net is full of asian people and in asian culture the obediance towards your parents is extremely important. This totally shows in this thread. While its completely wrong for the guy to not leave, the daughter doesn't have to obey every single rule their parents set for her. Morals >> property rights. The police comes in your house if you molest children in it. It is because morals transcend property rights. The same logic can be applied for her daughter. If her parents try to enforce rules which she finds immoral or demeaning, she has all right in the world to refuse obediance. The fact that she is old enough to move out is irrelevant for the faulty of this logic. The logic "parents own house/pay for kid -> kid has to obey" is simply false. Imagine she would be 10, so the option to move out wouldn't be given. Do you really think her only choice is to behave like a fuckin slave and do everything and respect everything their parents tell her, even if they are religious nuts?? God, the extreme form of "respect elders" value in asian cultures certainly leads to some dubious concepts about human rights on an individual basis. If her parents tell her to say a prayer before eating and she doesnt want to cus shes atheist, would you guys say she has to obey? Does "obediance towards parents" overrule "freedom of religion/belief" for you? The only problem here is requesting him to be gone by 11pm is not "morally wrong". Its fair. It would be more morally wrong for him to stay. Also how can you compare this to fighting against child molestation? If the police came to the house because of child molestation then they would take away the parents, sure...but if the police came to the house in Shockeys situation then they are going to make him leave, even if hes the one who called himself they would still make him leave. Theres a large gap between simple house rules and freaking child molestation. im not azn btw but respect/obediance towards your parents is still important. If the daughter had a problem with her parents rules of course she could fight them, however there is a time and a place for this. She should have obeyed her parents that night and then talked it out in a peaceful manner the next day after all tension is settled down. This way she could have shown her parents that she obeyed them out of respect but didn't agree with their rule. Then maybe they could come to a compromise. Destroying the house and endangering granny doesn't exactly help her case any. | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32008 Posts
Of course they want you out--who'd want their daughter dating some douchebag who wears eyeliner? You're lucky that the uncle didn't knock your teeth out. I really can't beleive that there's people here saying that he shouldn't have to leave. What the fuck.. | ||
ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
Oh and the white trash remark, it's not true at all. I'm no where near to white trash, so get your facts straight. The only problem here is requesting him to be gone by 11pm is not "morally wrong". Its fair. It would be more morally wrong for him to stay. They didn't request it. If they had requested it I would have left. They just started to yell at me and threatened to call the cops. You seem to think your some bigtime gangsta or something? However your really just an immature little shit who needs to learn how the real world works. Im glad you got a you got a girlfriend whos as big of an idiot as you (she brought all this shit on herself, and you sure as hell didnt help). Just do us all a favour and dont procreate. Oh yes I'm being immature, all those things I did was in the past, before I was even 16. Around the age when I was really actually immature, and I'm pretty sure people have done a lot more stupid shit than I have ever done. Now I've grown up and have seen most of the shit I've done was retarded, but hey that's how you learn. Now to try and bring some one down and talk shit about some one on the forum, that's immature. I actually know how the real world works. I go to school full time/Work full time. I pay my own damn rent, and I have my own bills to pay. I'm only 20 years old and still learning. I bet you're still actually living with your parents because they have money and pay for everything you own. All I did was ask for advice and see if anybody has gone through a situation like this. I knew I was going to get flamed for things I had said in the past or typed out or have done and I knew people were just going to judge me by what I wrote down in the OP but I don't give a fuck. Next time you try and call some one out on a forum make sure you're not trying to insult them in a way that sounds immature. Because it makes you sound more immature than the person you just tried to insult. | ||
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Fiji1823 Posts
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Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
On January 22 2009 04:20 ShoCkeyy wrote: Dude I stole pokemon cards once and that was when I was a kid. The fucking thread asked if you ever were in a sticky situation and I posted what I did. Like you guys never tried to steal pokemon cards ever. Never. And yes, I have owned Pokemon cards before. But this is beside the point. They didn't request it. If they had requested it I would have left. They just started to yell at me and threatened to call the cops. Then you were not very clear in your OP. The way you wrote it, you made it seem like your uncle and mother were not hostile in their requests and your girlfriend was. I can just imagine the mother barging into the room and starting to yell; sounds completely random! *laugh riot* | ||
MarklarMarklar
Fiji1823 Posts
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EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
On January 22 2009 05:12 MarklarMarklar wrote: OP should post his picture | ||
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TT)SieG(
United States25 Posts
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Pengu1n
United States552 Posts
The only problem here is requesting him to be gone by 11pm is not "morally wrong". Its fair. It would be more morally wrong for him to stay. They didn't request it. If they had requested it I would have left. They just started to yell at me and threatened to call the cops. On January 21 2009 01:58 ShoCkeyy wrote: I'm pretty sure there are people who go through this all the time with their girlfriend's parents all the time, but yesterday was by the far the worst experience in my life. Not only about the thought of losing a loved one but the fact that her parents called the police on me. It started with me being at her house like usual. She is 21 years old and I'm 20. We were in her room watching Dodgeball at the time and her uncle comes in acting like he is her dad. She gets upset and tells him to fuck off. Then her mom comes in talking about her uncle wanted me out of the house by 11pm. So she got mad and told her to fuck off that it's not his house nor his rule. She goes on by stating that the house taxes are being paid by him either way. My girlfriend explodes now and tells her mom that she doesn't give a shit about his money or what he pays for. He's not her father to be telling her what to do. Then her mother ASK me to leave the house and threatens to call the cops on me. Now my girlfriend explodes even more and throws a cup at the wall and a pound bar for weights; makes a whole in the wall and now shit gets even more heated. She's their fighting with her mother while her grandma is just yelling at me to get the fuck out that she has been wanting to call the cops on me for a while. My girlfriend throws a shoe box at her grandma. I stop and ask what the fuck did I ever do to get called the cops on me. Her mother responds nothing just get out of my house. My girlfriend gets more upset and breaks her closet. I told her mother I wasn't leaving my girlfriend like this at all. She told me to get the fuck out repeatably. I know now I can get arrested for not leaving and trespassing. (BTW her parents are insane, and their like those supper ultra christian people. Also her mothers pastor has been saying i'm a bad guy.) My girlfriend just keeps yelling and I finally decide to leave the house after 20mins and the cops coming. I get in my car and just park in the front doors neighbors house. My girlfriend runs outside and stays with me for about 15mins. She thought about going to live with her dad which is about 40mins from me. But it would be impossible to see her. So now she's asking for me and her to move with each other; I agreed. There was a lot more to this but I'm going back to her house now and I just wanted to throw my little rant and see how people overcome situations like this. I didn't get arrested nor a restraining order. But they did tell me to watch out for the parents because they will try everything to get me and her separated. request/ask ---->synonym but w/e apparently you still think you and your gf did the right thing when the majority of us are telling you otherwise. I believe you that her parents might be assholes and went a little far by calling the cops but you were still in the wrong here. | ||
Ghost151
United States290 Posts
On January 21 2009 13:24 ShoCkeyy wrote: Well she didn't scream at her for that, she has asked me to leave before and I had left(different day of course). It was the fact that she lied about it and then promptly yelled at me instead. Then her mother and grandmother come out of no where saying they're going to call the cops. They asked me to leave and I told them no because I wanted to make sure my gf was going to be alright, then her mother yells "YOURE NOT MARRIED TO HER GTFO" which made me more upset and what not but I still wanted to make sure she was alright. After 5mins of screaming, yelling, I left. I didn't yell back of course. Just asked why will you call the cops on me for no reason. They didn't have a reason till they asked me to leave. Most places in the U.S., when you are ever requested to leave the property and you refuse, it's trespassing (I know in New York they technically have to ask you to leave first) which is a CRIME, hence the police issue. In some states, simply having signs posted on private property means anybody on it without consent is trespassing. Depending on local ordinances, it may be even less than that. You lose. or perhaps your state has more lenient laws on trespassing. No matter. You're still an ass for not leaving when asked. If you really cared enough about her you could've just stood just like a foot over their damn property line and had your GF come over there; without a proper restraining order they can't force you to leave property they don't own. You don't really realize how lucky you are you weren't arrested, or if these people were how you said they were, actually physically harmed. | ||
Fen
Australia1848 Posts
On January 22 2009 04:20 ShoCkeyy wrote: Oh yes I'm being immature, all those things I did was in the past, before I was even 16. Around the age when I was really actually immature, and I'm pretty sure people have done a lot more stupid shit than I have ever done. Now I've grown up and have seen most of the shit I've done was retarded, but hey that's how you learn Says the guy who was bragging about vandalising property 1 month ago. Im glad youve grown up and matured since then. For arguments sake ive added some quotes from your last blog. I want to know what you guys think about graffiti. I'm getting pretty well known in Miami for it now and soon will be posting some pictures of my graffiti. you have to do it illegally just because it's practice. You wouldn't have anywhere else to do it. I know it's not ok to destroy some one's property but what other choice do we have? Also the sign got replaced within the next day so stfu. To do something like this on a train never knowing when they're going to come out and catch you is amazing. | ||
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United States4258 Posts
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