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Read here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=85209
So summary of the previous blog: I start exactly at 162. And I want to lose weight.
Once I returned back to school, I went to the gym and went on a soft diet for a good month and a half, and lost 10 pounds. So now I'm at 152. Then I stopped losing weight, because exams kept coming at me one after another. I soon lost motivation, but I didn't lose weight, nor gain any, which is a huge relief.
This summer, I hope to lose at least another 10 more pounds and I'll be super satisfied. 140 would be my ideal atm.
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UPDATE
standing at 150
CLAZZI GOGO
I've already started to eat a lot less and go running every morning. Let's see how long I can last in two weeks.
My mom FINALLY gave in and will not overly feed me like she used to ^_^ She wants me to eat, but I told her to understand me for once, ffs.
GOALS:
-Slighly thinner thighs -Lose all belly fat -GET MUSCLE
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Hmm.. thanks to wolframalpha know I actually know what 140 pounds really is :D
Then I stopped losing weight, because exams kept coming at me one after another. What does one thing have to do with the other. Just stop eating while you're studying :p
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@VIB: A huge reason why I started losing weight was because I started running every day. Once I stopped running (due to studying), I...ate more. >.> I regret it, but yeah
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Dude Goodluck on this.
I'm eating two cookies and sitting down with my laptop and I feel sorry for myself.
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On May 20 2009 05:01 Tensai176 wrote: Dude Goodluck on this.
I'm eating two cookies and sitting down with my laptop and I feel sorry for myself. It could be worse. I'm sitting in front of the computer for 5 hours and I don't eat for over 15 hours only because I'm too lazy to go get me something in the kitchen >< My belly hates me, but I need to finish my work!
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The misconceptions about how to lose weight, eating, caloric intake, what constitutes your metabolism, HIIT (High Intensity Training), meals (you should eat minimum 6 meals a day), and keep yourself and your body on a steady course whether you want to bulk, cut, or just lose some weight without working out, doing much is so staggering its unbelievable.
I would suggest everyone head to:
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com
Read every single PDF and you will have all the 'secrets' you ever need to know about how to gain, lose, cut, bulk, metabolism, foods, fats, meals, caloric intakes, programs, etc.
Thank me later.
I'm 5'7 147lbs with 7% BF right now. I'm doing a clean bulk, so within 3 months I should be around 155-158 and 5% BF.
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I've been working out and I gained like 10 pounds I was 131 at the beginning of the school year and now im 141
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On May 20 2009 05:01 Tensai176 wrote: Dude Goodluck on this.
I'm eating two cookies and sitting down with my laptop and I feel sorry for myself. LOL
i am eating cookies too
hmm.... though im not really fat...
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On May 20 2009 05:25 Racenilatr wrote:I've been working out and I gained like 10 pounds I was 131 at the beginning of the school year and now im 141
Follow the above sites general guidelines and you should be gaining 2-4 lbs a month, for the first few months, then 1-2 lbs as you start to peak.
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wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off.
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On May 20 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off.
studies show that people who eat less tend to live longer. they also get sick less. eating less will also give you a clearer mind. it also is very beneficial for the digestive system.
also, by eating less, you are conditioning your body to use energy more efficiently and have less desire for food in the future.
all of this said, there definitely is a "happy medium" one should try to find.
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On May 20 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off.
y so srs
he stated he's been going to the gym and running holy shit calm down
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this has worked wonders for me
it works... no starve carve crap. these fundamentals seem so basic but honestly, unless you're trying to become like ryan reynolds, then just stick to these basics and you'll have a very very nice body (nice compared to being a fat ass)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=115253401
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On May 20 2009 05:55 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off. studies show that people who eat less tend to live longer. they also get sick less. eating less will also give you a clearer mind. it also is very beneficial for the digestive system. also, by eating less, you are conditioning your body to use energy more efficiently and have less desire for food in the future. all of this said, there definitely is a "happy medium" one should try to find.
This is incorrect. There is so much info that even I can't digest it all to explain to you in depth off the top of my head, needless to say, read every article that is on abcbodybuilding and you will be enlightened. I didn't know even 5% of the information presented. (The guy who runs the site has a PhD and works at Univ Champaigne IL)
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On May 20 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off.
Hah, reminds me of a girl when I told her about my weight loss program. She said to not eat for a week, that's how she lost weight.
Then I looked at her and I said "sure".
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On May 20 2009 06:16 ilistis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off. Hah, reminds me of a girl when I told her about my weight loss program. She said to not eat for a week, that's how she lost weight. Then I looked at her and I said "sure".
/facepalm
Up your N3 ratios to about a 3:1 to N6's and eat complex carbs (GI <50). Generally, you want to eat more carbs in the morning as your body is a catabolic state, and eat more fats (N3's-N6's) as the day progresses as your body turns into an anabolic state. This is what BB do when they cut (2-3% body fat). You can drop from about ~12% to 3% within a month and a half to two and a half months.
You want to keep your protein intake about even for the day, except days you workout where PWO shakes spike with BCAA's (Leucine, etc.), Creatine, an egg or two, and various other things.
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clazzi what gym did u go to? werblin? We should of lifted together :D
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On May 20 2009 06:14 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 05:55 travis wrote:On May 20 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off. studies show that people who eat less tend to live longer. they also get sick less. eating less will also give you a clearer mind. it also is very beneficial for the digestive system. also, by eating less, you are conditioning your body to use energy more efficiently and have less desire for food in the future. all of this said, there definitely is a "happy medium" one should try to find. This is incorrect. There is so much info that even I can't digest it all to explain to you in depth off the top of my head, needless to say, read every article that is on abcbodybuilding and you will be enlightened. I didn't know even 5% of the information presented. (The guy who runs the site has a PhD and works at Univ Champaigne IL)
way to quote my entire post, say "this incorrect" without specifying any of 7 statements, and not post any basis for it whatsoever.
and furthermore, why would "abcbodybuilding" be a good source of information on the points I am making? if the site is about bodybuilding, I doubt they are going to care much about the health benefits of a very low calorie diet.
I am in no way advocating a low calorie diet for body building. I was just posting various benefits of calorie restriction, which are true despite your claims otherwise.
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What's your actual caloric intake like? Temporary diets (starving) are not the proper way to lose weight and are generally unhealthy.
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On May 20 2009 06:45 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 06:14 Aegraen wrote:On May 20 2009 05:55 travis wrote:On May 20 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off. studies show that people who eat less tend to live longer. they also get sick less. eating less will also give you a clearer mind. it also is very beneficial for the digestive system. also, by eating less, you are conditioning your body to use energy more efficiently and have less desire for food in the future. all of this said, there definitely is a "happy medium" one should try to find. This is incorrect. There is so much info that even I can't digest it all to explain to you in depth off the top of my head, needless to say, read every article that is on abcbodybuilding and you will be enlightened. I didn't know even 5% of the information presented. (The guy who runs the site has a PhD and works at Univ Champaigne IL) way to quote my entire post, say "this incorrect" without specifying any of 7 statements, and not post any basis for it whatsoever. and furthermore, why would "abcbodybuilding" be a good source of information on the points I am making? if the site is about bodybuilding, I doubt they are going to care much about the health benefits of a very low calorie diet. I am in no way advocating a low calorie diet for body building. I was just posting various benefits of calorie restriction, which are true despite your claims otherwise. What is low calorie? I'd guess for most men, <1700 is too low.
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Well, there are too many factors for that to be strictly defined I think. Height, weight, activity, even brain activity are all important regarding how many calories you need.
So that is a complicated question that I can't really answer.
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On May 20 2009 06:57 travis wrote: Well, there are too many factors for that to be strictly defined I think. Height, weight, activity, even brain activity are all important regarding how many calories you need.
So that is a complicated question that I can't really answer. True, but I think <1700 is only adequate for a really small guy.
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Well, I think I would be ok on a 1700 calorie vegetarian diet if I wasn't working hard physically. But if I did work hard physically, I would probably be so hungry I want to die.
Currently I eat about 2000-2200 calories a day, but I do work out a lot. My body fat is low, and my muscles aren't big, but I do have a lot of energy and am in good physical shape. I am 6'1 158lbs atm.
With little to no physical excersize I have no doubts I could live on <1200 calories(originally I put <1000 calories here, but actually I am not sure about that). Do I want to? No, not really lol. But this is how monks live and they are plenty healthy(though certainly would run out of energy if put to a physical test).
And I would never recommend anyone greatly restrict their calorie intake like that, without easing into it very slowly. There certainly are risks involved.
After doing more research it seems that various sources disagree with me, and that I wouldn't be able to live on 1200 calories a day. More like 1500. Though, that doesn't mean they are right.
But there are so many factors to this sort of thing.
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On May 20 2009 04:49 VIB wrote: Hmm.. thanks to wolframalpha know I actually know what 140 pounds really is :D
Same here It also tells you that is 0.91*average human weight.
If you are too heavy it starts comparing you to a "typical dairy cow" or a "small car"
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On May 20 2009 06:45 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 06:14 Aegraen wrote:On May 20 2009 05:55 travis wrote:On May 20 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off. studies show that people who eat less tend to live longer. they also get sick less. eating less will also give you a clearer mind. it also is very beneficial for the digestive system. also, by eating less, you are conditioning your body to use energy more efficiently and have less desire for food in the future. all of this said, there definitely is a "happy medium" one should try to find. This is incorrect. There is so much info that even I can't digest it all to explain to you in depth off the top of my head, needless to say, read every article that is on abcbodybuilding and you will be enlightened. I didn't know even 5% of the information presented. (The guy who runs the site has a PhD and works at Univ Champaigne IL) way to quote my entire post, say "this incorrect" without specifying any of 7 statements, and not post any basis for it whatsoever. and furthermore, why would "abcbodybuilding" be a good source of information on the points I am making? if the site is about bodybuilding, I doubt they are going to care much about the health benefits of a very low calorie diet. I am in no way advocating a low calorie diet for body building. I was just posting various benefits of calorie restriction, which are true despite your claims otherwise.
Look, I cited the sources; it is up to you to read. I'm not going to write 8000 characters to refute everything you said when it has all ready been written and refuted.
It's a good source of information, because it gives tips on not only growth, but weight loss, cutting, dieting, general health knowledge, BCAA's, effects on human body by nutrition, supplements, vitamins, effects of vitamins, it is the most indepth knowledge base you will find about various subjects of and relating to general dieting, nutrition, health, muscle mass, cutting/definition, scientific insight, etc. He writes his (usually upwards of 10+ pages and VERY scientific) in essay formats citing everything.
They go into depth about the process of maintenance caloric intake (3 formula's), HIIT, VO2 MAX / 65% optimal, etc.
In general, a 1200 calorie diet, inhibits bodily functions. Anyway shape or form, a 1200 calorie diet is unhealthy, he goes into great detail explaining why, and how your body reacts to such low calorie diets (specifically when cutting) and how to go about slow progressive diet change (never ever switch fast, or else you will gain excess fat as your body cannot respond quickly). He goes into fat loss (insulin sensitivity and resistence, N3s and N6s, optimal ratio's, etc.).
Anyways, do the reading, I highly recommend it.
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On May 20 2009 09:30 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 06:45 travis wrote:On May 20 2009 06:14 Aegraen wrote:On May 20 2009 05:55 travis wrote:On May 20 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off. studies show that people who eat less tend to live longer. they also get sick less. eating less will also give you a clearer mind. it also is very beneficial for the digestive system. also, by eating less, you are conditioning your body to use energy more efficiently and have less desire for food in the future. all of this said, there definitely is a "happy medium" one should try to find. This is incorrect. There is so much info that even I can't digest it all to explain to you in depth off the top of my head, needless to say, read every article that is on abcbodybuilding and you will be enlightened. I didn't know even 5% of the information presented. (The guy who runs the site has a PhD and works at Univ Champaigne IL) way to quote my entire post, say "this incorrect" without specifying any of 7 statements, and not post any basis for it whatsoever. and furthermore, why would "abcbodybuilding" be a good source of information on the points I am making? if the site is about bodybuilding, I doubt they are going to care much about the health benefits of a very low calorie diet. I am in no way advocating a low calorie diet for body building. I was just posting various benefits of calorie restriction, which are true despite your claims otherwise. Look, I cited the sources; it is up to you to read. I'm not going to write 8000 characters to refute everything you said when it has all ready been written and refuted.
"read every article that is on abcbodybuilding" that's supposed to be citing sources? I don't even care about citing sources anyways. You could have just summed up what you had read and that would be good enough for me. But as it stands now i am supposed to go there and just started looking through articles, hoping to find what you are talking about?
It's a good source of information, because it gives tips on not only growth, but weight loss, cutting, dieting, general health knowledge, BCAA's, effects on human body by nutrition, supplements, vitamins, effects of vitamins, it is the most indepth knowledge base you will find about various subjects of and relating to general dieting, nutrition, health, muscle mass, cutting/definition, scientific insight, etc. He writes his (usually upwards of 10+ pages and VERY scientific) in essay formats citing everything.
They go into depth about the process of maintenance caloric intake (3 formula's), HIIT, VO2 MAX / 65% optimal, etc.
In general, a 1200 calorie diet, inhibits bodily functions. Anyway shape or form, a 1200 calorie diet is unhealthy, he goes into great detail explaining why, and how your body reacts to such low calorie diets (specifically when cutting) and how to go about slow progressive diet change (never ever switch fast, or else you will gain excess fat as your body cannot respond quickly). He goes into fat loss (insulin sensitivity and resistence, N3s and N6s, optimal ratio's, etc.).
Anyways, do the reading, I highly recommend it.
well it does sound interesting so I will definitely check it out. But by "eating less" I never meant anything remotely near that low. More like, 2000calorie diet + more depending on workload.
But anyways thanks for the link I will have some more reading material for the future
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On May 20 2009 09:43 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 09:30 Aegraen wrote:On May 20 2009 06:45 travis wrote:On May 20 2009 06:14 Aegraen wrote:On May 20 2009 05:55 travis wrote:On May 20 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off. studies show that people who eat less tend to live longer. they also get sick less. eating less will also give you a clearer mind. it also is very beneficial for the digestive system. also, by eating less, you are conditioning your body to use energy more efficiently and have less desire for food in the future. all of this said, there definitely is a "happy medium" one should try to find. This is incorrect. There is so much info that even I can't digest it all to explain to you in depth off the top of my head, needless to say, read every article that is on abcbodybuilding and you will be enlightened. I didn't know even 5% of the information presented. (The guy who runs the site has a PhD and works at Univ Champaigne IL) way to quote my entire post, say "this incorrect" without specifying any of 7 statements, and not post any basis for it whatsoever. and furthermore, why would "abcbodybuilding" be a good source of information on the points I am making? if the site is about bodybuilding, I doubt they are going to care much about the health benefits of a very low calorie diet. I am in no way advocating a low calorie diet for body building. I was just posting various benefits of calorie restriction, which are true despite your claims otherwise. Look, I cited the sources; it is up to you to read. I'm not going to write 8000 characters to refute everything you said when it has all ready been written and refuted. "read every article that is on abcbodybuilding" that's supposed to be citing sources? I don't even care about citing sources anyways. You could have just summed up what you had read and that would be good enough for me. But as it stands now i am supposed to go there and just started looking through articles, hoping to find what you are talking about? Show nested quote + It's a good source of information, because it gives tips on not only growth, but weight loss, cutting, dieting, general health knowledge, BCAA's, effects on human body by nutrition, supplements, vitamins, effects of vitamins, it is the most indepth knowledge base you will find about various subjects of and relating to general dieting, nutrition, health, muscle mass, cutting/definition, scientific insight, etc. He writes his (usually upwards of 10+ pages and VERY scientific) in essay formats citing everything.
They go into depth about the process of maintenance caloric intake (3 formula's), HIIT, VO2 MAX / 65% optimal, etc.
In general, a 1200 calorie diet, inhibits bodily functions. Anyway shape or form, a 1200 calorie diet is unhealthy, he goes into great detail explaining why, and how your body reacts to such low calorie diets (specifically when cutting) and how to go about slow progressive diet change (never ever switch fast, or else you will gain excess fat as your body cannot respond quickly). He goes into fat loss (insulin sensitivity and resistence, N3s and N6s, optimal ratio's, etc.).
Anyways, do the reading, I highly recommend it.
well it does sound interesting so I will definitely check it out. But by "eating less" I never meant anything remotely near that low. More like, 2000calorie diet + more depending on workload. But anyways thanks for the link I will have some more reading material for the future
Let me know what you think. Warning, it is highly scientific. Also, it doesn't matter as much the actual calories, moreso it matters the types of calories you are ingesting, whether it is simple carbs, complex slow burning carbs, proteins, poly and mono unsaturated fats, etc.
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I can't wait till I finish P90X (about 3 weeks in now). I will make a blog with before/after pics.
I'm working out about 1 to 1.5 hours a day and eating 6 meals (I don't know where I'm putting it!).
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On May 20 2009 09:56 HeadBangaa wrote: I can't wait till I finish P90X (about 3 weeks in now). I will make a blog with before/after pics.
I'm working out about 1 to 1.5 hours a day and eating 6 meals (I don't know where I'm putting it!).
lol my friend had p90x. i burned copies of the stretch routine, yoga routine, kenpo cardio routine, and one of the ab routines. i like the videos they are pretty beastly.
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The Plyometric routine (tonight's workout) is the hardest workout I've ever done. I actually thought I was going to die the first time I did it.
"Yoga X" is also ridiculously hard.
Kenpo is my favorite!
Tony Horton is basically Michael Scott from The Office.
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yeah I agree the yoga X is tough. and the plyometric workout did look like the hardest one to me.
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On May 20 2009 10:20 HeadBangaa wrote: The Plyometric routine (tonight's workout) is the hardest workout I've ever done. I actually thought I was going to die the first time I did it.
"Yoga X" is also ridiculously hard.
Kenpo is my favorite!
Tony Horton is basically Michael Scott from The Office.
Let's see what you look like. I may do a before after also.
From month 1 to month 5. 4 months should give me a good progression. I'd say I'll put on at least 20 lbs and drop 2-3% BF.
Then we can compare results (PS: I'm going clean bulk build. I am using Creatine, BCAA supps, MultiVits, Non soy Whey, ZMA, and Chromium supps so keep that in mind.)
I'm eating a good 5,000 calories a day, about 2G/LB protein and rest complex carbs with no fructose (means no fruits, etc.) and only simple carbs (Dextrin 50 / MaltoDextrin 50) PWO to jump start anabolic reactions and allow for quicker entry of protein etc.
PS: If you can try and get some good magnesium supps, latest scientific studies have linked increased magnesium intake to greater insulin sensitivity (Which is the most important part of muscle building, definition, cutting)
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On May 20 2009 10:42 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 10:20 HeadBangaa wrote: The Plyometric routine (tonight's workout) is the hardest workout I've ever done. I actually thought I was going to die the first time I did it.
"Yoga X" is also ridiculously hard.
Kenpo is my favorite!
Tony Horton is basically Michael Scott from The Office. Let's see what you look like. I may do a before after also. From month 1 to month 5. 4 months should give me a good progression. I'd say I'll put on at least 20 lbs and drop 2-3% BF. Then we can compare results (PS: I'm going clean bulk build. I am using Creatine, BCAA supps, MultiVits, Non soy Whey, ZMA, and Chromium supps so keep that in mind.) I'm eating a good 5,000 calories a day, about 2G/LB protein and rest complex carbs with no fructose (means no fruits, etc.) and only simple carbs (Dextrin 50 / MaltoDextrin 50) PWO to jump start anabolic reactions and allow for quicker entry of protein etc. PS: If you can try and get some good magnesium supps, latest scientific studies have linked increased magnesium intake to greater insulin sensitivity (Which is the most important part of muscle building, definition, cutting) I am doing this program with a buddy; it's a great motivator.
I haven't been counting my calories (bad, I know). I'm using a 4-to-1 carb/whey-protein recovery drink, and a casein protein powder drink before bed. After this program I plan on bulking at the gym (P90X is cardio/strength) and possibly beginning creatine cycle (I'm on the fence about this; gonna see how I feel at the time).
Here is me at Day Zero (about 2.5 weeks ago). + Show Spoiler +
Yeah I'm going to have to check out that abc website; I'm not savvy about supplementation and I guess that's especially important with these intense programs.
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On May 20 2009 10:59 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 10:42 Aegraen wrote:On May 20 2009 10:20 HeadBangaa wrote: The Plyometric routine (tonight's workout) is the hardest workout I've ever done. I actually thought I was going to die the first time I did it.
"Yoga X" is also ridiculously hard.
Kenpo is my favorite!
Tony Horton is basically Michael Scott from The Office. Let's see what you look like. I may do a before after also. From month 1 to month 5. 4 months should give me a good progression. I'd say I'll put on at least 20 lbs and drop 2-3% BF. Then we can compare results (PS: I'm going clean bulk build. I am using Creatine, BCAA supps, MultiVits, Non soy Whey, ZMA, and Chromium supps so keep that in mind.) I'm eating a good 5,000 calories a day, about 2G/LB protein and rest complex carbs with no fructose (means no fruits, etc.) and only simple carbs (Dextrin 50 / MaltoDextrin 50) PWO to jump start anabolic reactions and allow for quicker entry of protein etc. PS: If you can try and get some good magnesium supps, latest scientific studies have linked increased magnesium intake to greater insulin sensitivity (Which is the most important part of muscle building, definition, cutting) I am doing this program with a buddy; it's a great motivator. I haven't been counting my calories (bad, I know). I'm using a 4-to-1 carb/whey-protein recovery drink, and a casein protein powder drink before bed. After this program I plan on bulking at the gym (P90X is cardio/strength) and possibly beginning creatine cycle (I'm on the fence about this; gonna see how I feel at the time). Here is me at Day Zero (about 2.5 weeks ago). + Show Spoiler +Yeah I'm going to have to check out that abc website; I'm not savvy about supplementation and I guess that's especially important with these intense programs.
Not bad. I guess it's all that 81st training eh
I'll have to take a latest pic, but you have a good start. You could go on a cut and look pretty ripped, but I would bulk first, then cut. Once you reach plateau, bulk again, then cut, ad infinitum (It's the old one step back two steps forward routine).
Also, instead of the caseine drink, you could go for cottage cheese. Since you are sleeping the cottage cheese is very high in casein and digests very slowly. Most BB take it at night for that fact. Up to you however.
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On May 20 2009 05:39 Dazed_Spy wrote: wtf are you a girl? who the hell loses weight by starving themselves? You want to lose weight, stop eating like a fatass, hit the gym and run.
Edit: And from the picture, your skinny, so why the fuck are you losing weight? Be healthy, hit the gym. Starving yourself is counterproductive to both losing weight and being healthy, to say the least. Learn from the failures of the opposite gender. Eating a leaf doesn't do shit. And yeah im exaggerating/be more hostile than I should be, but diets barring obesity piss me off.
lol wait, what? I never said I starved myself...I just said I'll eat less. It's completely different things. I still eat healthy and make sure I never stay hungry...o_O
On May 20 2009 06:26 AoN.DimSum wrote: clazzi what gym did u go to? werblin? We should of lifted together :D
Hey, yeah I went to Werblin But I was at the treadmills all the time. I didn't lift.
On May 20 2009 06:47 Jibba wrote: What's your actual caloric intake like? Temporary diets (starving) are not the proper way to lose weight and are generally unhealthy.
My caloric intake is anywhere from 1200-1500 calories.
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On May 20 2009 11:16 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 10:59 HeadBangaa wrote:On May 20 2009 10:42 Aegraen wrote:On May 20 2009 10:20 HeadBangaa wrote: The Plyometric routine (tonight's workout) is the hardest workout I've ever done. I actually thought I was going to die the first time I did it.
"Yoga X" is also ridiculously hard.
Kenpo is my favorite!
Tony Horton is basically Michael Scott from The Office. Let's see what you look like. I may do a before after also. From month 1 to month 5. 4 months should give me a good progression. I'd say I'll put on at least 20 lbs and drop 2-3% BF. Then we can compare results (PS: I'm going clean bulk build. I am using Creatine, BCAA supps, MultiVits, Non soy Whey, ZMA, and Chromium supps so keep that in mind.) I'm eating a good 5,000 calories a day, about 2G/LB protein and rest complex carbs with no fructose (means no fruits, etc.) and only simple carbs (Dextrin 50 / MaltoDextrin 50) PWO to jump start anabolic reactions and allow for quicker entry of protein etc. PS: If you can try and get some good magnesium supps, latest scientific studies have linked increased magnesium intake to greater insulin sensitivity (Which is the most important part of muscle building, definition, cutting) I am doing this program with a buddy; it's a great motivator. I haven't been counting my calories (bad, I know). I'm using a 4-to-1 carb/whey-protein recovery drink, and a casein protein powder drink before bed. After this program I plan on bulking at the gym (P90X is cardio/strength) and possibly beginning creatine cycle (I'm on the fence about this; gonna see how I feel at the time). Here is me at Day Zero (about 2.5 weeks ago). + Show Spoiler +Yeah I'm going to have to check out that abc website; I'm not savvy about supplementation and I guess that's especially important with these intense programs. Not bad. I guess it's all that 81st training eh I'll have to take a latest pic, but you have a good start. You could go on a cut and look pretty ripped, but I would bulk first, then cut. Once you reach plateau, bulk again, then cut, ad infinitum (It's the old one step back two steps forward routine). Also, instead of the caseine drink, you could go for cottage cheese. Since you are sleeping the cottage cheese is very high in casein and digests very slowly. Most BB take it at night for that fact. Up to you however. I don't get the 81st reference...
I agree, bulk first is what I should do, but I only started this program because of my friend's schedule, who doesn't plan on bulking at all. On the other hand, getting chiseled for the summer can't be too bad!
When I make my blog (OP, forgive the minor hijack!) you should definitely put up your pics, too. I'll see if I can get {88}iNcontroL to show his ; he's a beast. It's great to see the gains.
edit: good call on cottage cheese
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On May 20 2009 11:33 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 11:16 Aegraen wrote:On May 20 2009 10:59 HeadBangaa wrote:On May 20 2009 10:42 Aegraen wrote:On May 20 2009 10:20 HeadBangaa wrote: The Plyometric routine (tonight's workout) is the hardest workout I've ever done. I actually thought I was going to die the first time I did it.
"Yoga X" is also ridiculously hard.
Kenpo is my favorite!
Tony Horton is basically Michael Scott from The Office. Let's see what you look like. I may do a before after also. From month 1 to month 5. 4 months should give me a good progression. I'd say I'll put on at least 20 lbs and drop 2-3% BF. Then we can compare results (PS: I'm going clean bulk build. I am using Creatine, BCAA supps, MultiVits, Non soy Whey, ZMA, and Chromium supps so keep that in mind.) I'm eating a good 5,000 calories a day, about 2G/LB protein and rest complex carbs with no fructose (means no fruits, etc.) and only simple carbs (Dextrin 50 / MaltoDextrin 50) PWO to jump start anabolic reactions and allow for quicker entry of protein etc. PS: If you can try and get some good magnesium supps, latest scientific studies have linked increased magnesium intake to greater insulin sensitivity (Which is the most important part of muscle building, definition, cutting) I am doing this program with a buddy; it's a great motivator. I haven't been counting my calories (bad, I know). I'm using a 4-to-1 carb/whey-protein recovery drink, and a casein protein powder drink before bed. After this program I plan on bulking at the gym (P90X is cardio/strength) and possibly beginning creatine cycle (I'm on the fence about this; gonna see how I feel at the time). Here is me at Day Zero (about 2.5 weeks ago). + Show Spoiler +Yeah I'm going to have to check out that abc website; I'm not savvy about supplementation and I guess that's especially important with these intense programs. Not bad. I guess it's all that 81st training eh I'll have to take a latest pic, but you have a good start. You could go on a cut and look pretty ripped, but I would bulk first, then cut. Once you reach plateau, bulk again, then cut, ad infinitum (It's the old one step back two steps forward routine). Also, instead of the caseine drink, you could go for cottage cheese. Since you are sleeping the cottage cheese is very high in casein and digests very slowly. Most BB take it at night for that fact. Up to you however. I don't get the 81st reference... I agree, bulk first is what I should do, but I only started this program because of my friend's schedule, who doesn't plan on bulking at all. On the other hand, getting chiseled for the summer can't be too bad! When I make my blog (OP, forgive the minor hijack!) you should definitely put up your pics, too. I'll see if I can get {88}iNcontroL to show his ; he's a beast. It's great to see the gains. edit: good call on cottage cheese
My bad got you confused with someone else.
A 3 way! I'll win (Always good for the motivation, though beach babes usually motivates me pretty well)
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On May 20 2009 11:19 clazziquai wrote:
My caloric intake is anywhere from 1200-1500 calories. Too low. Any weight loss is going to be temporary at that level. You need an adequate amount of calories (depends on the person, but 2k is a decent average) so that your body won't starve (actually starve, not the feeling of starvation.) The basic principle behind losing weight is a caloric deficit (burn more than you intake) and you need to reach that deficit through exercise while eating a decent amount of calories.
The types of foods you eat is also important, but the basic idea here is that you need to get more calories, choose healthier foods and lose the weight through exercise, not through starvation. There's plenty of guides out there for getting in shape that include workout routines and eating guidelines, like P90X or Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle.
www.exrx.net is also a great site for workout stuff, once you kind of already know what your routine should be like and just need exercise ideas.
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On May 20 2009 04:52 clazziquai wrote:@VIB: A huge reason why I started losing weight was because I started running every day. Once I stopped running (due to studying), I...ate more. >.> I regret it, but yeah
Good luck on your weight loss.
Some good advice is to cut down on carbs; rice, pasta etc and eat more protein and veggies.
Also don't run every day, run every second day and do some weight lifting/body excercises the days in between.
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On May 20 2009 06:58 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 06:57 travis wrote: Well, there are too many factors for that to be strictly defined I think. Height, weight, activity, even brain activity are all important regarding how many calories you need.
So that is a complicated question that I can't really answer. True, but I think <1700 is only adequate for a really small guy.
Agreed, only fat people should go below 1700. Some smaller women could down to 1500 kcal too.
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On May 21 2009 02:50 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 04:52 clazziquai wrote:@VIB: A huge reason why I started losing weight was because I started running every day. Once I stopped running (due to studying), I...ate more. >.> I regret it, but yeah Good luck on your weight loss. Some good advice is to cut down on carbs; rice, pasta etc and eat more protein and veggies. Also don't run every day, run every second day and do some weight lifting/body excercises the days in between.
Also, for running I would recommend HIIT (Basically, full bore run for ~7-10 minutes, then jog about 55-65% VO2 MAX for 20 minutes), studies show this is the most efficient (by 3 times) way to metabolise fat.
Some rice has very low GI which is beneficial (Brown Basmati rice) when cutting. Weight is irrelevant to health. The main thing you want to watch for is your body fat %. If your 125, but have 25% BF that is unhealthy. If you are 175 and 5% BF that is extremely healthy. Up to you how you want to be, just be aware it isn't your actual weight that has any significant relevance (unless of course you are malnurished and are severely under weight).
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On May 21 2009 04:26 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 02:50 Foucault wrote:On May 20 2009 04:52 clazziquai wrote:@VIB: A huge reason why I started losing weight was because I started running every day. Once I stopped running (due to studying), I...ate more. >.> I regret it, but yeah Good luck on your weight loss. Some good advice is to cut down on carbs; rice, pasta etc and eat more protein and veggies. Also don't run every day, run every second day and do some weight lifting/body excercises the days in between. Also, for running I would recommend HIIT (Basically, full bore run for ~7-10 minutes, then jog about 55-65% VO2 MAX for 20 minutes), studies show this is the most efficient (by 3 times) way to metabolise fat. The main study that was done on HIIT was actually very limited in its scope, and the gains from it have sort of become a myth. If I recall, the control was terrible and the % differences were significant just because the absolute values were so small.
http://evidencebasedfitness.blogspot.com/2007/03/hiit-vs-steady-state-who-will-win.html
I don't believe their diets were very well controlled, their exercise wasn't very well controlled, and in 15 weeks (4 months) the HIIT group only lost about 3 lbs total. Whatever gain people have extrapolated from that are hugely exaggerated.
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I played 2 seasons of HS waterpolo; 6am HIIT practice. I watched every guy on the team turn into a lean machine. I am a believer!
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I wouldn't worry about a diet. You're really skinny. Dudes will beat you up.
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On May 21 2009 07:29 HeadBangaa wrote: I played 2 seasons of HS waterpolo; 6am HIIT practice. I watched every guy on the team turn into a lean machine. I am a believer! I think the idea is that they're both excellent, and it can't really hurt to do both.
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On May 20 2009 05:15 Aegraen wrote:The misconceptions about how to lose weight, eating, caloric intake, what constitutes your metabolism, HIIT (High Intensity Training), meals (you should eat minimum 6 meals a day), and keep yourself and your body on a steady course whether you want to bulk, cut, or just lose some weight without working out, doing much is so staggering its unbelievable. I would suggest everyone head to: http://www.abcbodybuilding.comRead every single PDF and you will have all the 'secrets' you ever need to know about how to gain, lose, cut, bulk, metabolism, foods, fats, meals, caloric intakes, programs, etc. Thank me later. I'm 5'7 147lbs with 7% BF right now. I'm doing a clean bulk, so within 3 months I should be around 155-158 and 5% BF.
Damn, that's lean. 7% BF is scary lean. How long have u been working out?
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On May 21 2009 12:26 SixSongs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 05:15 Aegraen wrote:The misconceptions about how to lose weight, eating, caloric intake, what constitutes your metabolism, HIIT (High Intensity Training), meals (you should eat minimum 6 meals a day), and keep yourself and your body on a steady course whether you want to bulk, cut, or just lose some weight without working out, doing much is so staggering its unbelievable. I would suggest everyone head to: http://www.abcbodybuilding.comRead every single PDF and you will have all the 'secrets' you ever need to know about how to gain, lose, cut, bulk, metabolism, foods, fats, meals, caloric intakes, programs, etc. Thank me later. I'm 5'7 147lbs with 7% BF right now. I'm doing a clean bulk, so within 3 months I should be around 155-158 and 5% BF. Damn, that's lean. 7% BF is scary lean. How long have u been working out?
Um, I just started to really hit the gym and get back on my hardcore routine about....3 weeks ago, but I'm blessed by absurdly high metabolism. I have to eat like 5,000 cal a day.
I stopped working out for... like 8 months once I got to my new unit. All I did for 7 months while I was in A School was workout, and prior to that, I worked out off and on for 3 years after I graduated high school. During HS I worked out for a good 4 years pretty nonstop due to wrestling and baseball.
What sucks though....is that I literally have like no fat on my arms, chest, legs, calves, etc. It all goes to my frontal abs and obliques ;/ My arms (biceps in particular) are absurdly ripped lol. Everyone is always like....damn you got softballs haha (except they're as hard as rocks..)
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Quick update!
So I started as 152 as I was writing this blog. Unfortunately, I went to Montreal and gained like 5-6 pounds because of great food. I've slowly been working to lose it by playing basketball and eating less (like sometimes, but mots of the time, I do!) So from Montreal until now, I am at 150.
Here's a more recent picture:
EDIT: Smaller pic. Fuck my camera lol.
Keep in mind my primary goal is to lose thigh fat. Once I do that, I want to work towards getting a leaner upper body
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You don't get to choose where the fat comes off, spot reducing is an advertising myth.
How's your eating going?
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On July 25 2009 21:47 Jibba wrote:You don't get to choose where the fat comes off, spot reducing is an advertising myth.
Yeah I know that, I'm just trying to lose my body weight/fat in general first...=]
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I'm in a similar situation as you. I'm at 160 right now trying to get down to 150. I'm 5'9 btw. Good luck!
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On July 26 2009 01:15 Athos wrote: I'm in a similar situation as you. I'm at 160 right now trying to get down to 150. I'm 5'9 btw. Good luck!
I wish you the best of luck. The secret to what I did to get to 160 was really, lowering my diet with exercise like twice or three times a week. Maintaining your calories is key. Don't over-eat.
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I think you'd be better off just working out right now with weights, eating a healthily balanced diet (1 gram protein/1 lb lean body mass, get some essential fatty acids in (walnuts, fish oil, w/e), some fruits, some veggies - you don't have to be super strict, just try to get all that in every day) and continuing cardio. It's pretty much impossible to put on muscle AND lose fat at the same time but if you haven't worked out much before, aka you are a "beginnining" body builder, you can do it because the body does all sorts of crazy shit when you first start going to the gym. You'll get super super fast gains.
I think you look totally fine and 160 is not remotely overweight. If you just lift weights now and do cardio with a healthy diet you'll probably end up gaining weight, maybe up to 170 pounds over a few months, while losing the fat. Because your muscles will become larger, especially your chest and shoulders on your frame, even though you might be "bigger" you'll look more "in shape" because there will be more definition i.e. your shoulders will be much larger than your waist proportionally. You also don't suffer from the problem that people like me do/did: you don't have a lot of fat. You don't have to lose the fat for your muscle to be visible. I was fairly strong before I began more rigorously working out and it didn't matter worth a shit cause I had so much body fat it was totally invisible. If you start bulking up now then you'll be ripped in no time.
I've lost about 30 pounds of fat this summer while putting on maybe 15-20 pounds of muscle. This is pretty extreme and it's because I'm a "beginner" despite having been lifting for years. I never was particularly disciplined about it so my body was never really conditioned to it and I never entered "beginner" phase. However, I do a very rigorous exercise schedule since I decided to be really healthy this summer instead of working. Most people probably won't have time for what I do; every other day I bike a 25 mile round trip to the gym, do a 50 minute workout, and come back; every day I don't go to the gym I do at least 1 hour on the elliptical and I do my ab workouts. I also do volunteer construction work, so I get a pretty good 8 hour workout 3 days a week as well (obviously not as intense as biking or something but still decent to take up some time and get some exercise while I'm at it). I am currently 185 lbs, 5 foot 7 and a bit, and 10% BF. It seems pretty heavy, I know, but I am fairly heavily muscled. I'd like to cut that down to 5% BF, but I'm not really super hardcore about my diet and I don't try to really cut and bulk etc, I just want to be more healthy in my day to day lifestyle.
You're not fat at all so you can easily shed 2-3 lbs a week if you cut down 500 calories per day from your diet and burn 500 calories every day. That's about 40 minutes of decently hard running. It takes 3500 calories to "make" a lb of fat, so 500 calories cut from your diet 7 days a week = 1 lb/week, and 500 calories working out/day = another 1 lb/week. You can split that up however you want, but it's not good to cut too many calories out of any given day. It's better to split it over a longer period of time i.e 30-40 minutes of running everyday instead of like 3 hours every 3 days.
I think it's funny that that guy above me is claiming that everyone is wrong while maintaining that you NEED to eat 6 meals a day. This is patently false. A quick google search will find you plenty of studies to refute this idea of "constant metabolism" throughout the day.
My personal opinion on HIIT (which is pretty much irrelevant, now I'm just rambling) is that it's good and bad. I think that if you're not in decent shape already it's just going to fuck you up and make it hard to maintain a good exercise schedule. For myself, before I lost a lot of weight I didn't like things like running because it was high impact on my knees and being overweight made that a lot harder. So I did a lot of elliptical and biking shit. Now, I'm light enough that it's not too bad but I still find that I prefer low impact cardio. I tried HIIT for awhile and I personally just didn't like it. It may be more efficient but I believe a steady state medium intensity cardio is probably just as good for most people. You can still alternate between heavy and medium intensity, like what I do on the elliptical by going at 12 resistance for 10 minutes, then 15 resistance for 10, then back, for an hour.
Ultimately though, it's a somewhat inexact science and most people need to just experiment with some things to figure out what their body responds to best.
One other little tip, if you do choose to go to the gym starting soon: increase the weights you're lifting fairly regularly at the beginning. I think that beginner weight lifters aren't really aware of what they're capable of; it feels like you're lifting the max you can but you're not really exerting yourself to your max. I increased my weight by a little bit (generally 5 lbs) on all my lifts every few weeks even if I thought I couldn't do it; I'd be doing dumbbell lifts @ 130 lbs total and think it was my limit, then I'd add to 140 and bam I could do 9 reps 3x instead of 12 reps 3x. Rinse and repeat for a bit at the beginning. After you get a good feel for your body and lifting weights you can start doing it more intelligently, figuring out when you are not bustin it out as hard as you could.
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congrats man but i gotta be honest there is absolutely no difference between the two pictures you posted lol
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haha I was in the opposite situation as you. Trying to gain weight.
I started at about 112Lbs, and have worked my way up to 128 from going to the gym 3 days a week and consuming more protein.
I am 5'4
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On July 27 2009 08:25 Zidane wrote: haha I was in the opposite situation as you. Trying to gain weight.
I started at about 112Lbs, and have worked my way up to 128 from going to the gym 3 days a week and consuming more protein.
I am 5'4
sounds like me, cept i need to cut some fat and then gain weight.
rowing and boxing with the punching bag are fun
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On July 27 2009 08:41 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 08:25 Zidane wrote: haha I was in the opposite situation as you. Trying to gain weight.
I started at about 112Lbs, and have worked my way up to 128 from going to the gym 3 days a week and consuming more protein.
I am 5'4 sounds like me, cept i need to cut some fat and then gain weight. rowing and boxing with the punching bag are fun
Cool, what kind of rowing do you do?
My next goal is the 6 pack
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Just remember that 6 packs are made in the kitchen, not in the weight room.
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On July 27 2009 12:32 Jibba wrote: Just remember that 6 packs are made in the kitchen, not in the weight room.
I think you're spot on with that statement, but I am too damn lazy to make healthy foods these days. Cooking is a chore. Do you have any good food recipes that are good tasting and don't take more than say 30 minutes to make?
6pack abs seem like the epitome of fitness to me kinda, just because you have to have the 1. the muscles that are a bitch to train and 2. very healthy diet with very low fat in your body for it to actually show.
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