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On September 02 2006 21:52 Purind wrote: Why not? Chojja has been on fire for the past 3 or so MSL's and has had a strong showing in OSL. Casy won OSL right after getting top 4. OK, MAYBE you have a point with Casy, but he has been impressive for the past.... ummmm half a year, and he's been winning a boatload of games. comon you cant tell me chojja is dominating the scene, let alone dominating it to such an extent deserving of his massive lead in kespa.. i'd just like to see people climbing and falling the rankings a lot slower so we dont see a kid hit a hot streak and then suddenly have a 2300493 point lead in the standings
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And if you make the Kespa apply over a longer period of time, people will whine about how the rankings are not relevant, and do not reveal truly how well the pros of TODAY are doing. Check the past 30 kespa threads to see what I'm talking about
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On September 02 2006 21:51 Mortality wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2006 21:03 SuperJongMan wrote: Jju is right around rank 6-7 for all-time Pro Gaming Careers. Surprise ya? Jju is a monster in a thinly veiled disguise. Jju shoulda been top 10 or at least top 5 zerg since 2005. Based on whose rankings? NaDa, Boxer, Yellow, Chojja, Oov, Garimto, Reach, Ra,....that's 8 who have had better careers without a doubt. Yes, Jju is an underrated monster, but not top 7. ;p Only Savior, Chojja and July have done better since the start of 05 I think.
Based on Kespa's stats my friend. Raw stats, Jju is top 7. He's been round longer than many others and his total career stats are far larger than newer blood like July. You'd be surprised how high Jju ranks in a lot of total career stats. Think how old the guy is, and how consistantly he has made SLs despite RARELY having a seed. He always falls shy of a seed every OSL. That's so many games he wins to get back there to fall shy of a seed again. Seeded players have less games to play overall also.
EDIT - I think it goes in an order like this.. Nada, Boxer, Yellow, Xellos, Reach, Chojja, Jju.... or Ra, Jju. Something very close to that...
Garim isn't even considered top 10. His stat pool is too small.
And the last year, Chojja really IS #1. No one has come close to winning the amount of titles he has. Savior with MSL titles alone is top 3. Why can't Casy? The anti-casy rank people are so stupid. He got 4th in an OSL losing only to two top 5 players at the time, Oov and Pusan. Then his next OSL, he beats rank #1 Chojja in the finals. Dur... you don't think that's going to help his points out? Not to mention his PL victories have been pretty damn good. It's not like Kespa is debatable. Kespa is the facts of progaming...
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If anyone cares to answer, why is NaDa above Boxer? Hasn't he been slumping since like 2005? :-D
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Nada carries his team solo. Boxer rarely plays PL.
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23 [Oops]Reach 586.6 -4 Reach WTF!?
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On September 03 2006 08:39 SuperJongMan wrote: [removed quote within quote]
Based on whose rankings?
NaDa, Boxer, Yellow, Chojja, Oov, Garimto, Reach, Ra,....that's 8 who have had better careers without a doubt.
Yes, Jju is an underrated monster, but not top 7. ;p
Only Savior, Chojja and July have done better since the start of 05 I think.
Based on Kespa's stats my friend. Raw stats, Jju is top 7. He's been round longer than many others and his total career stats are far larger than newer blood like July. You'd be surprised how high Jju ranks in a lot of total career stats. Think how old the guy is, and how consistantly he has made SLs despite RARELY having a seed. He always falls shy of a seed every OSL. That's so many games he wins to get back there to fall shy of a seed again. Seeded players have less games to play overall also.
EDIT - I think it goes in an order like this.. Nada, Boxer, Yellow, Xellos, Reach, Chojja, Jju.... or Ra, Jju. Something very close to that...
Garim isn't even considered top 10. His stat pool is too small.
And the last year, Chojja really IS #1. No one has come close to winning the amount of titles he has. Savior with MSL titles alone is top 3. Why can't Casy? The anti-casy rank people are so stupid. He got 4th in an OSL losing only to two top 5 players at the time, Oov and Pusan. Then his next OSL, he beats rank #1 Chojja in the finals. Dur... you don't think that's going to help his points out? Not to mention his PL victories have been pretty damn good. It's not like Kespa is debatable. Kespa is the facts of progaming... [/QUOTE]
Very well written. I like Jju a lot, and am very surprised people don't recognise his achievments. Not speaking only for the past - IIRC Jju is the only survival of the both current MSL and OSL.
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