I will try to keep it up to date. Also planing add some more features and statistics in future. Have fun and good luck
http://rankgim.eu/ - updated list
@pauline - updated
@eon - done
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
I will try to keep it up to date. Also planing add some more features and statistics in future. Have fun and good luck http://rankgim.eu/ - updated list @pauline - updated @eon - done | ||
iFU.pauline
France1388 Posts
ps : I am french not russian | ||
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letian
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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Netto.
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Edit: Ah win % are shown when you click on a player, didn't notice them, sorry | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
Important question, is SuGo korean ? As i remember he is korean livin in US, does he have korean citizenship ? | ||
Bonyth
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awerti
227 Posts
Just a reminder, there is also this page where you can filter foreigners on Fish server. Best part - this page takes player lists from TL wiki and Fish server. https://r-raymond.github.io/bwladder/index.html http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/521362-fish-server-ranking Edit: My bad, it is not up to date... sorry | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1288 Posts
On July 23 2017 18:15 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: Thinking about two separated rankings an international tournaments and korean tournaments, should i do it this way ? It means i will add Scans, Sonstars etc to an international oturnaments. Im in 95% decided to do that becouse it seems more logical for me. What do u think about that ? 1) foreign players rankings 2) foreign players with active korean players(who associate with foreign community/tour/etc) rankings 3) overall international rankings idk. just shouted out some ideas. Korea also have their own system of ELO rankings atm since April? or May 2017. The link to go to Korean ELO ranking website is http://xn--oy3bn0ftst.com/ | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6321 Posts
On July 24 2017 06:16 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: Ranking update. In the absence of votes of opposition by 12h I open the ranking for koreans, etc. From now it will be an international ranking. hf. why you put bonyth win yesterday against me if it was a walk over were i won ? also it only count series ? such a shame since i loss most of my bo3 1-2,IE yesterday vs scan :/ also congratulations Scan as top 1 in the foreigner elo rank -_-; | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
Planing add also some feature that will autohide inactive players, if someone in 6 months didnt play a game = your profile will be hidden. | ||
iopq
United States740 Posts
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KenZy
France92 Posts
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Bonyth
Poland499 Posts
On July 24 2017 08:12 iopq wrote: Elo works by individual game results, NOT series. This is because winning 2-0 is better than winning 2-1. on the other hand u play differently when it's BO3 and when it's BO1, so i wouldn't be so fast with looking down at the current system. | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
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SuGo
United States681 Posts
On July 22 2017 20:33 Bonyth wrote: SuGo is American with Indian roots I believe, so definitely a foreigner This is accurate | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
Elo works by individual game results, NOT series. This is because winning 2-0 is better than winning 2-1. on the other hand u play differently when it's BO3 and when it's BO1, so i wouldn't be so fast with looking down at the current system. @iop , @Bonyth - this is how elo systems works always, everywhere, no way it will be changed whenever. i think you forgot some results because i went down in the ranking after "haveatyou" tournament while i should climb in the ranking. Or am I missing something ? @Kenzy everythin fine, you are up 29points, just this down/up arrows dont work perfect, its including last game only now. Working on it. Btw lanos = lancerx and bjergsen = dewalt @eOn Yeah, i knew Bjergsen is Dewalt so i added Bjergsen games as Dewalt games but no way i will be know every fastnick, its impossible. So if someone decide play on it its big probability his games will be counted to his new acc. Fixing forever manualy results is impossible. This is accurate @ProtosGG - Thx | ||
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KenZy
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
On July 24 2017 18:38 KenZy wrote: I think you forgot my match against dandy in the LB or alteast i don't see the match in my match history. :o Index problem - fixed, also fixed points manually, game will be not showed in game list. Thanks. | ||
HaN-
France1916 Posts
And display country name when mouse hovering the flags. | ||
iopq
United States740 Posts
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iG.Arcneon
Finland333 Posts
Scan/Sonstar top foreigners )) | ||
kogeT
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
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TT1
Canada9926 Posts
Would be nice to see a big/prestigious site like TL.net implement some sort of foreign BW ranking if someone like Zulu (with help from others maybe) is willing to update it. That could help out the foreign scene and serve as extra motivation for people to practice, BW players in general are extremely competitive. | ||
neptunusfisk
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Glioburd
France1900 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
oh man thats so long ago xD | ||
GeckoXp
Germany2013 Posts
On July 24 2017 15:08 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: @eOn Yeah, i knew Bjergsen is Dewalt so i added Bjergsen games as Dewalt games but no way i will be know every fastnick, its impossible. So if someone decide play on it its big probability his games will be counted to his new acc. Fixing forever manualy results is impossible. ill have a look if ill find my old lists, that might give you a better base number if you're willing to recalculate from there on out. however, i used 1500 to start out with, not 750 (i assume). | ||
SchAmToo
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Cryoc
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Bonyth
Poland499 Posts
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HerbMon
United States456 Posts
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MymSlorm
Chile187 Posts
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iopq
United States740 Posts
On July 25 2017 08:30 Bonyth wrote: walkovers don't count, but he lost to me once :D He got cheesed in one by Trutacz, so just those two? | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
http://defiler.ru/tourney/?t=483 https://smash.gg/tournament/have-at-you-5/events/brood-war-singles/brackets/ | ||
DracoMortuiVolantus
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from my side I hope that 100 years from now, everybody will think that flash was jaedong https://www.facebook.com/notes/draco-volantus/resemblance/1631855700171418/ xD | ||
HaN-
France1916 Posts
It's a ranking list, seeing the rank is kinda important. | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1288 Posts
On July 25 2017 15:42 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: 2 losses vs Bonyth http://defiler.ru/tourney/?t=483 https://smash.gg/tournament/have-at-you-5/events/brood-war-singles/brackets/ 1 loss vs trutacz in addition in hay2 i believe. Btw will you count offrace loss also from defiler tour link you posted? | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
Btw will you count offrace loss also from defiler tour link you posted? Dont get it, what do u mean ? I count loss in this tour, ut i didnt find any your lose vs TT. | ||
LaStScan
Korea (South)1288 Posts
On July 25 2017 18:34 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: Dont get it, what do u mean ? I count loss in this tour, ut i didnt find any your lose vs TT. The bo3 i lost to bonyth was zvp both 2 games in defiler tour. | ||
prosatan
Romania7062 Posts
On July 25 2017 08:15 Cryoc wrote: He said, that he counts bo1/bo3/bo5 as one. I don't recall Scan losing more than the one series in the very first of your tours and one walkover, so seems pretty accurate to me. haha , right now i am watching your tutorial on siege expand Cryoc ! Nice to see you in that list ! | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
On July 25 2017 18:45 LaStScan wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2017 18:34 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: Btw will you count offrace loss also from defiler tour link you posted? Dont get it, what do u mean ? I count loss in this tour, ut i didnt find any your lose vs TT. The bo3 i lost to bonyth was zvp both 2 games in defiler tour. Offrace games will be count ofc. No reason to do not. | ||
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GeckoXp
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last updated: 20th August 2015 maybe of help: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Smurf/List#Post_Beta_Foreigners | ||
Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
On July 25 2017 18:34 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: Dont get it, what do u mean ? I count loss in this tour, ut i didnt find any your lose vs TT. Weird, I looked up the first couple of tours, but I cannot find the bracket in question. Something must have changed in the brackets after the tour was played. I am 100% sure, that Scan lost vs TT in one of the first Tours as I played in that tour and watched the streamed games between them. On July 25 2017 22:35 prosatan wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2017 08:15 Cryoc wrote: He said, that he counts bo1/bo3/bo5 as one. I don't recall Scan losing more than the one series in the very first of your tours and one walkover, so seems pretty accurate to me. haha , right now i am watching your tutorial on siege expand Cryoc ! Nice to see you in that list ! Thanks, but I don't know why I am ranked so high honestly, probably only because I played in more tours than many others. I am much worse as my terrible winrate shows. I hope my tutorial helps you. | ||
B-royal
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1288 Posts
Im on my phone. Please excuse my laziness. I believe it should be 3 losses. PS: just got on computer. https://smash.gg/tournament/filthy-bw-cup-weekly-1/events/brood-war-singles/brackets Filthy BW Weekly 1: Scan 1-2 Trutacz | ||
mca64Launcher_
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HaN-
France1916 Posts
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iG.Arcneon
Finland333 Posts
On July 26 2017 06:34 mca64Launcher_ wrote: "Foreigners elo ranking" and Scan is first :D www.captiongenerator.com | ||
prosatan
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
+ koreans + few other things | ||
SCC-Faust
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ninazerg
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On August 06 2017 05:23 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: Yes i was updating it, just didnt spam here Ah, well bumps for you. This is awesome and I hope you keep this project running for tournaments in SC:R. | ||
Cryoc
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Ty2
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
@Ty2 i was thinkin about it, but this tour is open, didnt find any reason to dont add it. So for today every open lvl tournament will be probably added. Only tournament like "D-C rank only" where skill lvl is limited will be not included. Mb it will be changed or mb not, who knows | ||
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Jealous
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
@Eon what do u mean? I dont see any nation wars tounament now. | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
Probably tomorrow i will also add filter to hide "single tournaments fns" with means only ppl who played 5 or more games will be visible. After playing 5 matches you acc will become visible with full stats. | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6321 Posts
On August 07 2017 00:10 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: Its incuding only tuornaments finished after 1 January 2017, and now i am updating only "live" Is our day of luck then? Iccup nation wars season 2 finished in february i believe | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Leagues/Full_Tournaments_List | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
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Jealous
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
-last SK tour -players with less than 4 games are hidden (anti 1 tour smurfs system) | ||
LaStScan
Korea (South)1288 Posts
On August 13 2017 21:46 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: Updated: -last SK tour -players with less than 4 games are hidden (anti 1 tour smurfs system) Did you update from hay tournament also? | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
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HaN-
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LyDDa
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Drake
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also alot of people mention its laggy vs him so its not even a fair compare, not sure he needs to be on list User was warned for this post | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1288 Posts
On September 13 2017 19:45 Drake wrote: i think hes likeable but i think scan destroys the foreign tournament scene ^^ he is basicly an autolose for everyone who gets him, and its boring since he wins everytime basicly also alot of people mention its laggy vs him so its not even a fair compare, not sure he needs to be on list It's up to tournaments' organizers. If they say "region lock" or "no Koreans" then, I won't touch. Don't worry. I grew up with this TeamLiquid SC community and contributed a lot of stuff about Korean News, Build Orders, Tricks and interesting videos of matches. Please don't lead this that i'm like a "Hunter" how some others participated(0 connection with Foreign community, but randomly appeared). I have even saw EU vs EU is even lagging each other sometimes(From Draco's stream vs OctZerg on Extra High latency in his ladder game). Some Europeans don't even lag at all(playing on low latency with KR). Not sure why you are starting up a fire again when TL staffs have stopped people's insane discussion during FilthyCup, HaveAtYou, Defiler, BaseTrade, ETC. | ||
arb
Noobville17915 Posts
On September 14 2017 00:58 LaStScan wrote: Show nested quote + On September 13 2017 19:45 Drake wrote: i think hes likeable but i think scan destroys the foreign tournament scene ^^ he is basicly an autolose for everyone who gets him, and its boring since he wins everytime basicly also alot of people mention its laggy vs him so its not even a fair compare, not sure he needs to be on list It's up to tournaments' organizers. If they say "region lock" or "no Koreans" then, I won't touch. Don't worry. I grew up with this TeamLiquid SC community and contributed a lot of stuff about Korean News, Build Orders, Tricks and interesting videos of matches. Please don't lead this that i'm like a "Hunter" how some others participated(0 connection with Foreign community, but randomly appeared). I have even saw EU vs EU is even lagging each other sometimes(From Draco's stream vs OctZerg on Extra High latency in his ladder game). Some Europeans don't even lag at all(playing on low latency with KR). Not sure why you are starting up a fire again when TL staffs have stopped people's insane discussion during FilthyCup, HaveAtYou, Defiler, BaseTrade, ETC. Id just ignore the people nowadays who wanna cry about you playing. Back in the day it was a privilege to play good players and people learned from it, but now i guess its just whine till the better players get banned i guess | ||
207aicila
1236 Posts
On September 14 2017 02:04 arb wrote: Show nested quote + On September 14 2017 00:58 LaStScan wrote: On September 13 2017 19:45 Drake wrote: i think hes likeable but i think scan destroys the foreign tournament scene ^^ he is basicly an autolose for everyone who gets him, and its boring since he wins everytime basicly also alot of people mention its laggy vs him so its not even a fair compare, not sure he needs to be on list It's up to tournaments' organizers. If they say "region lock" or "no Koreans" then, I won't touch. Don't worry. I grew up with this TeamLiquid SC community and contributed a lot of stuff about Korean News, Build Orders, Tricks and interesting videos of matches. Please don't lead this that i'm like a "Hunter" how some others participated(0 connection with Foreign community, but randomly appeared). I have even saw EU vs EU is even lagging each other sometimes(From Draco's stream vs OctZerg on Extra High latency in his ladder game). Some Europeans don't even lag at all(playing on low latency with KR). Not sure why you are starting up a fire again when TL staffs have stopped people's insane discussion during FilthyCup, HaveAtYou, Defiler, BaseTrade, ETC. Id just ignore the people nowadays who wanna cry about you playing. Back in the day it was a privilege to play good players and people learned from it, but now i guess its just whine till the better players get banned i guess I mean hey, it worked for SC2. :D Scan most definitely deserves his place here. And his stream is nice. | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
http://prorm.webd.pl/rekin5/ Pan-American Team League: Season 1/Week1-4 Clash for Char #3 ESL SC Remastered Cup #4 OSC SC:R SEA Weekly #4 OSC SC:R Open #3 Clan SK Tourney @ US East 9/15/17 Clash for Char #4 ESL SC Remastered Cup #5 SC:R Italian Esports Open 2017 - Qualifier #1 Europe BaseTrade Remastered Open 2 OSC SC:R SEA Weekly #5 OSC SC:R Open #4 Clash for Char #5 ESL SC Remastered Cup #6 Mediamarkt SC:R Moscow Offline SC:R Italian Esports Open 2017 - Qualifier #2 Europe OSC SC:R SEA Weekly #6 If someone know flags/races players with world/wrong/flag or wrong race etc plz post it here. Thanks. | ||
Bakuryu
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
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SCC-Faust
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
So can anyone help and post here flags for this ppl: http://prorm.webd.pl/rekin5/countryladder.php?country=Unknown and race for this ppl: http://prorm.webd.pl/rekin5/raceladder.php?race=unknown | ||
awerti
227 Posts
What's the format to enter results for a single tournament? XML? And would it be possible to see a list of tournaments (chronologically), and see results for a specific tournament? Say OSC SC:R Open #3, or Clash for Char #4? | ||
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
What's the format to enter results for a single tournament? XML? I am entering results by adding match one by one via small cms at backend or just manual fixing on database. And would it be possible to see a list of tournaments (chronologically), and see results for a specific tournament? Say OSC SC:R Open #3, or Clash for Char #4? I think it is possible to do it in future but the "to do list" is already very long so i am not expecting to make it soon, but who knows, this idea seems very nice. | ||
awerti
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7290 Posts
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
On September 30 2017 04:57 sicklucker wrote: how am I so high honestly. I lost a bunch of tourneys round one mostly when I was out of shape. sapsoe those were not counted I dont see any "high" Canadian there, woot? http://prorm.webd.pl/rekin5/countryladder.php?country=Canada | ||
Jealous
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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iopq
United States740 Posts
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
Just want to add some flags/races that I know of. DragOn (me) is Canadian PZ racepicker, Ultra is chilean T, Hawk is american Z, Zancco and gosudark are both peruvian P, Lumire is american Z, Xions is peruvian P, Castle is canadian P, Yugox is peruvian P, Ranged is american P, Cute and Aegyo are the same person canadian Z, Target-x17 is canadian Z, Bylat is russian, Babo is chilean Z, Lumix is american T, Jaehoonbeast is american racepicker PZ, Geniuspain is american P | ||
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iFU.spx
Russian Federation344 Posts
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iFU.spx
Russian Federation344 Posts
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
@spx, It is almost impossible to distinguish which match was wo and which one was played, becouse admins of most tournaments dont have tools to indicate it or just are to lazy, probably this 1st. From my perspective i cant blind shooting, becouse it might be hurtful for somebody. @DragOn, u are as a random becouse there is 5 race options, PTZR and unknown. Thanks for info about players! | ||
Demurity
United States424 Posts
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Jealous
9974 Posts
On July 22 2017 20:13 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: @Netto click on nickname Important question, is SuGo korean ? As i remember he is korean livin in US, does he have korean citizenship ? On July 22 2017 20:33 Bonyth wrote: SuGo is American with Indian roots I believe, so definitely a foreigner I know this is from the first page and all, but I think it is important to clear something up; SuGo is a Lvl 99 Wizard, full sperglord, so I request that you change his flag to represent him and his true origins. As you can see today is an important day for me and this is all that I ask for. User was warned for this post | ||
sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
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Jealous
9974 Posts
On November 03 2017 13:54 sicklucker wrote: patl should be added! Pretty sure it is! Just may not be current + people under 4 (?) games are not listed. | ||
sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
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Jealous
9974 Posts
On November 03 2017 17:55 sicklucker wrote: my record would be better if it was added. probably just because the admin of that leauge lost interest and didnt submit alot of the results The results are very much behind in PATL but he promised to have them done by the last week. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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Poegim
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FyRe_DragOn
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NbSky
Canada1023 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28262 Posts
I actually feel that if you look at this list and don't just look at the ELO, but also on amount of games played, win rate, and region played in, it ends up being a pretty damn solid indicator. That said, even if you don't, Bonyth, Dewalt, TT, Eon, Dandy as top 5? I'm on board with that. The next 10 being Terror Gorynich Gargoyle Sziky Ty2 Naugrim Koget Dragon Mana Michael? I'd prolly swap 2-3 of those for 2-3 of the next ones (Ret, Kenzy and Marwin), but it really is fairly accurate. Obviously doesn't accurately reflect the skill of players who have hardly played any tournaments, but for the ones who register for ~2 every week, it really does. It doesn't really have much meaning when you look outside the top 25 because there some players with much fewer games end up being represented just through having one good recent tournament run, but for the top 25, I really feel it is quite accurate. And for the record I think out of the top 50, I'm prolly one of the most wrongly rated players. I dunno if I think I'm better than anyone above me (certainly none of the europeans), and there are lots of players below that I would consider a significant favorite against me if I were to play them. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
About g0rynich. He is "low" becouse he lost 2 games vs firebathero (in winner bracket final and grand final) who was technically new player in ranking with low elo. | ||
plast1c
Germany99 Posts
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Jealous
9974 Posts
On November 08 2017 16:46 duplex__ wrote: why are koreans still no. 1 even if they are "foreigners"? :D EDIT: Actually it's just to make foreigners upset, I'm sure of it. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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CakeSauc3
United States1437 Posts
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SuGo
United States681 Posts
On November 02 2017 22:43 Jealous wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2017 20:13 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: @Netto click on nickname Important question, is SuGo korean ? As i remember he is korean livin in US, does he have korean citizenship ? Show nested quote + On July 22 2017 20:33 Bonyth wrote: SuGo is American with Indian roots I believe, so definitely a foreigner I know this is from the first page and all, but I think it is important to clear something up; SuGo is a Lvl 99 Wizard, full sperglord, so I request that you change his flag to represent him and his true origins. As you can see today is an important day for me and this is all that I ask for. User was warned for this post Lol wtf | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On November 16 2017 02:22 Poegim wrote: Excuse me for spam, but players profiles are available again, with history highest peak, matchups win ratio, games history. Holy shit nice job man. | ||
GeckoXp
Germany2013 Posts
This is by no means criticism, just interested in what you used. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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SCC-Faust
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
http://clansk.challonge.com/xrages8k here this one got skipped somehow gimme dem sweet sweet elo points | ||
FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
Ive got some more flags for you elcausha = peruvian scorpionrider = swedish protoss 200eapm = american terran vulture-x17 = american terran leo = peruvian zerg ihufa = danish zerg zerglol = american zerg magus = chilean zerg cruzago = chilean protoss inca = peruvian terran pro = italian protoss white = chilean protoss fazers = american protoss | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
How nice profile looks wiith photo example: http://prorm.webd.pl/rekin5/player_stats.php?playerID=10 You dont need to cute it or smth. | ||
ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3208 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Scan | ||
merz
Sweden2760 Posts
On November 16 2017 05:33 FyRe_DragOn wrote: Nice update Ive got some more flags for you elcausha = peruvian scorpionrider = swedish protoss 200eapm = american terran vulture-x17 = american terran leo = peruvian zerg ihufa = danish zerg zerglol = american zerg magus = chilean zerg cruzago = chilean protoss inca = peruvian terran pro = italian protoss white = chilean protoss fazers = american protoss ScorpionRider is = Bischu btw | ||
iopq
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3022 Posts
On May 05 2018 14:47 Poegim wrote: I stopped play sc, glcw didnt work out, i had problems to rewrite everythin to joomla api, finally i lost interest. Database is ok, i just didnt update it since january/february. Would be cool if you can share the code or database on github so that your work is not for nothing | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
Im trying to find time to do it by myself but with no successes as u see. 2 fulltime jobs, kid, et cetera, makes it inpossible. | ||
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Poegim
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What has been done: Have At You! #19 BSL CONTINENTS WARS EU VA NA D2 BSL CONTINENTS WARS EU VA NA D1 Biohazard Super Cup Q6 Biohazard Super Cup Q5 Have At You! #18 Biohazard Super Cup Q4 Biohazard Super Cup Q3 Card cup w7 Biohazard Super Cup Q2 Biohazard Super Cup Q1 Card cup w6 Have At You! #17 Card cup w5 BSL 4 FINALS AND 3RD PLACE MATCH Card cup w4 Have At You! #16 BSL 4 SEMIFINALS Card cup w3 BSL 4 RO8 RaceWars 3 Card cup w2 Have At You! #15 RaceWars 2 Card cup w1 BSL4 GROUP D Foreign Brood War Cup #1 BSL4 GROUP C RaceWars 1 BSL4 GROUP B MOSCOW Old School LAN BSL4 GROUP A BSL4 Swiss Tournament r7 Have At You! #14 BSL4 Swiss Tournament r6 BSL4 Swiss Tournament r5 Have At You! #13 BSL4 Swiss Tournament r4 BSL4 Swiss Tournament r3 Have At You! #12 BSL4 Swiss Tournament r2 BSL4 Swiss Tournament r1 BSL PRO #4 BSL KOTH FEB22 The Clash for Char #16 BSL PRO #3 Also some small changes has been included. To be visible on ranking list player has to play at least ̶5̶ 10 games. Last game must be played in last ̶6̶ 9 months. Players under 700 points are now invisible on list. However, you can check other ppl by clicking their nickname on game lists et cetera even if they does not meet the requirements. Some admin plz if u can change link in #1 to, i cant edit it for unknown reason: http://rankgim.eu | ||
Burned Toast
Canada2040 Posts
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Esp1noza
Russian Federation470 Posts
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
btw I think there is a slight error, everyones BSL NA vs EU continents wars matches got recorded except mine, dragon vs gargoyle im not seeing. | ||
Poegim
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
Also got some info on flags etc. JaehoonBeast and Beast (from BSL NA vs EU) are the same person, american racepicker. st.cristiger is peruvian. peacemaker is chilean zerg. veganinja is canadian protoss. rOuta I believe is finnish. UCSD[sosin] must be american. Aegyo (BSL4) and Cute (BSL NA vs EU) are the same person too, canadian zerg | ||
TornadoSteve
775 Posts
Testie Kiwi Kalin Mondragon Fisheye | ||
EndingLife
United States1558 Posts
On August 01 2018 04:58 TornadoSteve wrote: Im from the (very) old era, just restarted following the scene (since a few months). Was interested in knowing what happened to those old good players? Thanks Testie Kiwi Kalin Mondragon Fisheye Testie streams Heroes of Newerth on twitch.tv Kalin still plays a bit Not sure about the others | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
On August 01 2018 04:02 FyRe_DragOn wrote: I agree a non korean ranking option would be sweet also. Is there a way I can donate to keep this active? Also got some info on flags etc. JaehoonBeast and Beast (from BSL NA vs EU) are the same person, american racepicker. st.cristiger is peruvian. peacemaker is chilean zerg. veganinja is canadian protoss. rOuta I believe is finnish. UCSD[sosin] must be american. Aegyo (BSL4) and Cute (BSL NA vs EU) are the same person too, canadian zerg As long as there is no "50%" or more of Koreans i dnt see any sense, but mb in some future. Thanks for info about flags, i updated it, wasnt sure about Beast, but knew that Cute is aegyo . Gentlemans dont talking about money, im not sure today about future of this, but maybe i ll add some donate button ... someday. | ||
kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
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Ty2
United States1430 Posts
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funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
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dM-White
Chile338 Posts
keep going the good work so nice! | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
About BWCL - yeah im very sad i didnt include it, but i didnt know that now results are on iccup site (my bad - blind old eyes), deffinitly will include it in future if there will be next seasons, playoffs, anythin. Im very happy now BWCL have place when u can clearly check results. STPL - Liquipdia page wasnt updated since week5 of round1 as i remember. So i decided to not add it if i am unable to add all games. Can anyone cofirm, cuz i am not sure, Zarrr is Favorit right? | ||
FyRe_DragOn
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Poegim
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dM-White
Chile338 Posts
On August 01 2018 16:02 Poegim wrote: Holy moly, probably check 3 threads with stpl in name but not this oni. Now I get what r&s means lol. Well, thinking seriously about do it one more time with both of this clan tours, but must check is it even possible. Anyway if you cant add them now, you can add the results of next 2 rounds of stpl and next bwcl season now that u know where to find them ^^ | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
Need game dates of STPL from mr. Qikz and find february copy of database, then i will do that probably. | ||
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Ikirouta
Finland726 Posts
On August 21 2018 23:11 Poegim wrote: Added some small stats: http://rankgim.eu/stats.php Yo, you have Napoleon as French on your site. Hes Finnish tho. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
StarLadder Pro Series Ro16Swiss R3 Biohazard Final Event RCC - The Arena Week 20 StarLadder Pro Series Ro16Swiss R4 StarLadder Pro Series playoffs Have At You 20 BWCL 46 - WEEK1 StarLadder Pro Series final BWCL 46 – WEEK2 Have At You 21 BWCL 46 – WEEK3 BSL5 CONTINENTAL WARS 2 NS VS SA BWCL 46 – WEEK4 Have At You 22 BWCL 46 – WEEK5 NA BATTLE 3 R1 NA BATTLE 3 R2+final Congratz for Mr. Eonzerg for make new record of global history highest peak (1443elo). Yesterday BSL5 tour is not included (mb Eon will make one more record?) Becouse 1. im waiting for BWCL W6 for finish, 2 tour is not already done. P.S. Im sorry Chilean Starcraft League, but... half of nicknames in this tour is fake flash, fake bisu et cetera, and there was no available match dates anywhere. | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6321 Posts
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Poegim
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FyRe_DragOn
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Navane
Netherlands2690 Posts
here are all the results of all three rounds so far: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/534275-stpl-r-and-s-shinhan-tank-proleague-18-19-season But they indeed do not include the play dates. So I compiled them here for you. If you keep this list with the thread above, it should be fairly straight forward. But really, qikz should just export this shit to a google sheet or smt .
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kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
On October 18 2018 16:43 Poegim wrote: STPL is great, but there is no good place where you can get data, the topic of r & s has no dates, it's hard to find out what's going on (mb there are some dates anywhere but it's hard to find[?]). With BWCL it's different, you enter a page, you choose which week, you have given the date, who with who to whom he played etc. Shouldn't Qikz have some kind of a master data base? Like a big Excel file for all that? | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2690 Posts
Poegim, I really encourage you to decouple the data from the elo ranking. That way you can also graph elo over time. Have a table with just the player/score/date, and let your algorithm crawl over this table from the beginning of time to now, creating a new table with date/player/elo. I really like your initiative. | ||
Qikz
United Kingdom12010 Posts
On October 18 2018 18:01 kogeT wrote: Show nested quote + On October 18 2018 16:43 Poegim wrote: STPL is great, but there is no good place where you can get data, the topic of r & s has no dates, it's hard to find out what's going on (mb there are some dates anywhere but it's hard to find[?]). With BWCL it's different, you enter a page, you choose which week, you have given the date, who with who to whom he played etc. Shouldn't Qikz have some kind of a master data base? Like a big Excel file for all that? I set up my mySQL database very weirdly to start with so I don't have things like dates as it doesn't record them as games, just numbers. I'm working with Radley at the minute to improve on that since he works with Databases for a living so he's being a huge help to getting that fixed moving forward. Based on everything I've talked about with him I should be able to store everything as matches and games rather than just numbers, I'll need to change all my code but that's fine I don't mind it. Radley <3 I'm sorry I've made it impossible for you to use STPL poegim, perhaps you can add it when I fix all the database and everything. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
http://rankgim.eu/pvp.php | ||
kogeT
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6321 Posts
On October 20 2018 00:39 Poegim wrote: Added PvP feature, you can now check player vs player ratio and games history. Just start entering a nickname in textbox and pick players. http://rankgim.eu/pvp.php lanos = lancerx | ||
Red.T45
Germany28 Posts
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Navane
Netherlands2690 Posts
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radley
Poland577 Posts
GreyShades app In a few days, I'm going to post here on TL a new thread, to get opinions and discuss about new website portal idea, which would be pretty big project, where foreign elo ranking would be only one of the features. But I may only guess it can take at least half of the year to see the results, after I get green light from community and can start working on it. This gonna also require cooperation from main foreign leagues organisators and some volunteers to help updating content. | ||
dark.matter
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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dM-White
Chile338 Posts
On March 28 2019 19:34 Poegim wrote: ill put it online soon, didnt touch this since october, and spend whole last 4 days on it. There is alot of games to update, im just in middle of january, or smth like it. Finally i rewrited engine so i can ez fix now past games, i can also add past tournaments (hi STPL?) and recalculate it in few minutes (except adding games to list takes a bit longer). Also writing some new features like History highest peaks rank (this is ready, already). I hope i ll finish updating game list in 1 week. Not sure adress will be same becouse of domain cost. + Show Spoiler + Nice!!! rankings are back :D | ||
Jealous
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FlaShFTW
United States9652 Posts
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radley
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
winner / loser / date (might be unix timestamp also) / event name - or just player score / score player 2 / date / event name or just smth like it | ||
SuGo
United States681 Posts
Is it already up or still waiting to turn it on again? Current link (http://www.rankgim.eu/pvp.php) not working for me. | ||
radley
Poland577 Posts
List contains all games from STPL for which matches were casted up to yesterday. There were several duplicate user names. Those I can remember: - Marine from pSi and Marine from vT (first is 'Marine', 2nd 'Marine_vT' - Jaewon from Nas and Jaewon from WHITE (both having NaS / WHITE after nickname) - Best from Red and BeSt progamer (first is Best, second BeStKOREA) - Mind from dM (?) and Mind progamer (same as for Best, but only MindKOREA played) - Beast from NaS and Korea (resolution same as previously, but only beast from NaS played) | ||
dM-White
Chile338 Posts
On March 30 2019 12:58 radley wrote: STPL games List contains all games from STPL for which matches were casted up to yesterday. There were several duplicate user names. Those I can remember: - Marine from pSi and Marine from vT (first is 'Marine', 2nd 'Marine_vT' - Jaewon from Nas and Jaewon from WHITE (both having NaS / WHITE after nickname) - Best from Red and BeSt progamer (first is Best, second BeStKOREA) - Mind from dM (?) and Mind progamer (same as for Best, but only MindKOREA played) - Beast from NaS and Korea (resolution same as previously, but only beast from NaS played) No, this dM-Mind from USA not the progamer hehe | ||
TT1
Canada9926 Posts
On March 30 2019 12:58 radley wrote: STPL games List contains all games from STPL for which matches were casted up to yesterday. There were several duplicate user names. Those I can remember: - Marine from pSi and Marine from vT (first is 'Marine', 2nd 'Marine_vT' - Jaewon from Nas and Jaewon from WHITE (both having NaS / WHITE after nickname) - Best from Red and BeSt progamer (first is Best, second BeStKOREA) - Mind from dM (?) and Mind progamer (same as for Best, but only MindKOREA played) - Beast from NaS and Korea (resolution same as previously, but only beast from NaS played) 3/24/2019 T Marine_vT 1:0 TT1 P Fortress SE STPL Season 1 Round 4 GroupStage who adds these games? i never played vs marine_vt.. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
@ Radley, amazing job, thanks. | ||
FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
@poegim happy to see the rankings returning look forward to checking out the online version soon | ||
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radley
Poland577 Posts
So yeah, sorry for your situation TT1, but your team could replace you with anybody just as you were seeing troubles with rescheduling game, and than he would be on games list as winner/losser depends on how game did go. That would also benefit everybody watching STPL, since there would be more game to be casted and seeing walkovers is always bad feeling. dM-White - yeah, the point is there are two players with nickname Mind - one from your team and another one progamer (he played at least once in WHITE vs SouL in Round 1, if I remember correctly). | ||
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GreyShades
Denmark38 Posts
The code for that project is in C# and all accessible via github. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
2019 Q1 UPDATE Ok, i updated rankgim, there might be some mistakes etc, i add like 1750 games since october and 750 games of STPL since march 2018. There is few issues of sharing same name by players with "super common" nicknames, like marine, raynor, last, y.y, dark, spy but its less than 0,1 players and less than 1% games so doesnt impact ranking much, just as small fluctuation. Also few nicknames is existing in few different version so i am not sure are they different players or no etc. Examples: BlaCkSonS, BLaCkSoN, Kaido, KaidoKaze, Mannerz, MannerzMan etc Waiting for your reports. HF + Show Spoiler + Added: BSL5_Ladder_Tournament_2 BSL5_Ladder_Tournament_3 BSL5_KotH 301019 BSL5 RO24 GROUP D BSL5 RO24 GROUP E Brood_War_20th_Anniversary_LAN BSL5 RO24 GROUP C Have At You 24 BSL5 RO24 GROUP F BSL5 RO64 CHOBOLEAGUE BSL5 RO24 GROUP A BSL5 RO24 GROUP B BSL5 RO16 CHOBOLEAGUE GROUP A BSL5 RO16 CHOBOLEAGUE GROUP C Defiler_Tour_84 BSL5 Ro16 GROUP A Have At You 25 BSL5 Ro16 GROUP C BSL5 RO16 CHOBOLEAGUE GROUP B BSL5 RO16 CHOBOLEAGUE GROUP D ThornCraft 1 BSL5 Ro16 GROUP D BSL5 Ro16 GROUP B BLS5 RO8 CHOBOLEAGUE BSL5 RO8 D1 BLS5 SEMIFINALS CHOBOLEAGUE BSL5 RO8 D2 Defiler Tour 85 BSL5 SEMIFINALS BSL5 FINALS BLS5 FINALS CHOBOLEAGUE Have At You 26 BSL6 Ladder Tournament 1 BW Jeez weekly 1 BSL6 Ladder Tournament 2 LETS GO BW Jeez weekly 2 Have At You 27 BSL6 Ladder Tournament 3 BWCL 47 W1 BSL6 Nation Wars BW Jeez weekly 3 EGM Fight Night 1 BWCL 47 W2 BW Jeez weekly 4 BSL6 RO24 GROUP A PROLEAGUE BSL6 RO32 GROUPS GOSULEAGUE BSL6 CHOBOLEAGUE RO32 BWCL 47 W3 BW Jeez weekly 5 Have At You 28 BSL6 RO24 GROUP C PROLEAGUE BSL6 RO24 GROUP B PROLEAGUE BWCL 47 W4 BW Jeez weekly 6 BSL6 RO24 GROUP D PROLEAGUE BSL6 RO24 GROUP E PROLEAGUE BWCL 47 W5 BW Jeez weekly 7 BSL6 RO24 GROUP F PROLEAGUE Defiler Tour 86 EGM Fight Night 2 Parabola tournament 1 BSL6 CHOBOLEAGUE RO16 BWCL 47 W6 BW Jeez weekly 8 BSL6 RO16 GROUP A GOSULEAGUE BSL6 RO16 GROUP B GOSULEAGUE BSL6 RO16 GROUP A PROLEAGUE BSL6 CHOBOLEAGUE RO8 BWCL 47 W7 BW Jeez weekly 9 BSL6 RO16 GROUP B PROLEAGUE BSL6 RO16 GROUP C GOSULEAGUE BSL6 RO16 GROUP D GOSULEAGUE BSL6 RO16 GROUP C PROLEAGUE BWCL 47 W8 BW Jeez weekly 10 BSL6 RO16 GROUP D PROLEAGUE BSL6 RO8 GOSULEAGUE BSL 6 PROLEAGUE RO8 D1 BSL6 CHOBOLEAGUE RO4 BWCL 47 W9 BW Jeez weekly 11 BSL 6 PROLEAGUE RO8 D2 BSL6 RO4 GOSULEAGUE BSL 6 PROLEAGUE SEMIFINALS BW Jeez weekly 12 BSL6 FINALS GOSULEAGUE STPL Season 1 Round 4 GroupStage STPL Season 1 Round 3 PlayOffs STPL Season 1 Round 3 GroupStage STPL Season 1 Round 2 PlayOffs STPL Season 1 Round 2 GroupStage STPL Season 1 Round 1 PlayOffs STPL Season 1 Round 1 GroupStage New temporary (not sure about future of this) adres is : www.rankgim2.webd.pro | ||
Navane
Netherlands2690 Posts
top 10: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSQxtVuVi78q-QIdIPGbVx5_-Q9W1--qy9zbveQB02YNKY0TKohzvMkyg0CCBI6KY93vS8Ha_23-52s/pubchart?oid=558915804&format=interactive top 50: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSQxtVuVi78q-QIdIPGbVx5_-Q9W1--qy9zbveQB02YNKY0TKohzvMkyg0CCBI6KY93vS8Ha_23-52s/pubchart?oid=1008483052&format=interactive Hover over the line to see the player name. Yeti man. Most underrated player. | ||
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TT1
Canada9926 Posts
It says i have 2 wins vs g0rynich but it's actually 1 win and 1 loss. Like i mentioned i never played vs Marine and you added a bunch of my games where i offraced for fun (vs Labuela // vs Dewalt). Is the goal here to have an accurate ranking or are we just gonna add every single match without double checking anything? I'm checking the other pages and there's a ton of mistakes in those too.. Also, adding a ranking page for CPL would be really cool, imo. | ||
GreyShades
Denmark38 Posts
On April 03 2019 06:44 TT1 wrote: The ranking isn't accurate tho. Don't get me wrong, i think having an elo/ranking page is super fun and i appreciate all the work going into keeping it updated.. but it would be nice if the ranking page had accurate data. I think those are valid points. On the other hand, the current approach is also about seeing what can practically be done with the current data. However, in terms of a more long term and lasting solution for elo ratings there are a number of things to consider: 1) The technical solution where, say a tournament organizer, can hand in or upload a spread sheet in a particular format and it is automatically added to the grand data base. 2) A different issues is creating a policy on which games to include. For obvious reasons, walkovers and games that players do not take serious should preferably not enter the data base. But the games should also preferably come from matches where each player plays on a set of pretty balanced maps. For example, games from BSL would probably fit that criterion better than games from STPL. Looking to the chess world, only particular tournaments are recognized as official rating tournaments and you know before hand when you are playing rated games so you don't fool around. These are some thoughts on the long term organization of an elo ranking system, but I recognize that its about making a compromise between what is optimal and what is practically possible. | ||
FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
Good to see the ranking back though | ||
Demurity
United States424 Posts
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dM-White
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radley
Poland577 Posts
The practical approach is to give particular tournaments and their stages factor of priority, so that match in main league is more important than match in one day long tournament, and match in finals is more important than match in groupstage. However, taking into account, that everybody should play their best in any tournament, others may say it would affect scores in a bad way. | ||
TT1
Canada9926 Posts
On April 03 2019 16:05 radley wrote: The statement about not including tournament (!) games, because someone was playing for fun with offrace is just the most stupid thing I have ever seen regarding elo rank algorithm. The practical approach is to give particular tournaments and their stages factor of priority, so that match in main league is more important than match in one day long tournament, and match in finals is more important than match in groupstage. However, taking into account, that everybody should play their best in any tournament, others may say it would affect scores in a bad way. These were not "official tourney games", they were fun event matches that i only agreed to play in for that exact reason.. to have fun (NA vs SA and BSL KOTH events during the BSL ladder stage). I obviously wouldn't ever offrace in an official tourney like BSL, Zotac etc. And like i've said previously, the STPL situation (W.Os counting) is just laughable. Especially when i did everything in my power to play my match (contacted their team coach 1 week before the match and he just kept putting it off until the last day). Anyways, guess the mistake was on my end, i'll have to think about joining in stuff that i really don't want to more carefully in the future. Carry on ! | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
This is still amateur community so no one should expect too much. There is no way to do it perfect as long as it is not a professional thing. People smurfs, plays on different accounts, changing names, gets wo, et cetera. @ Demurity, You need to have 10 games to be visible, but as i see now You = Chego, so i will merge this accs, mb there is some games on Demurity nickname (probably yes becouse Demurity nickname exist in base). ill make some fixes in gamelist in few days if ppl will report (like TT1 vs notforu). | ||
FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
gypsy = canadian T hitemup = loganterriah = canadian T aegyo = cute = canadian Z yop = peruvian Z mutita = leo = peruvian Z splax = swedish P roegi = american T unco = american P bard = polish demure = demurity = chego = Demure[NaS] = american T Armada = american P | ||
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
I dont think any of polish bards games are from battousai, i dont remember him playing in HAY ever. could be wrong i guess | ||
Rus_Brain
Russian Federation1888 Posts
Me Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=635 xevb3,Russia, Terran http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1450 Clickmer, Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1050 Tresha, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=104 Funny, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=145 pollution = TTF, Terran http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1229 Jeronnimo, Russian, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=970 Jedione, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=821 Malki, Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=440 | ||
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iG.Arcneon
Finland333 Posts
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Jealous
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On April 05 2019 15:50 radley wrote: Arcneon, if you really need games to fix you're elo rating, here is proper thread for you https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/545170-cpl-season-4-sign-ups LOL WOW | ||
iG.Arcneon
Finland333 Posts
On April 05 2019 15:50 radley wrote: Arcneon, if you really need games to fix you're elo rating, here is proper thread for you https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/545170-cpl-season-4-sign-ups xD Thanks bro! | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
On April 05 2019 15:50 radley wrote: Arcneon, if you really need games to fix you're elo rating, here is proper thread for you https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/545170-cpl-season-4-sign-ups I am not including events with skill cap, like 1400MMR max only tourneys, B rank only et cetera. On April 04 2019 17:28 Rus_Brain wrote: Bylat, Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=709 Me Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=635 xevb3,Russia, Terran http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1450 Clickmer, Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1050 Tresha, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=104 Funny, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=145 pollution = TTF, Terran http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=1229 Jeronnimo, Russian, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=970 Jedione, Protoss http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=821 Malki, Zerg http://www.rankgim2.webd.pro/player_stats.php?playerID=440 Done except pollution, becouse both those nicknames play in Road to Moscow, so it cant be same person. On April 04 2019 09:02 FyRe_DragOn wrote: some info on players: gypsy = canadian T hitemup = loganterriah = canadian T aegyo = cute = canadian Z yop = peruvian Z mutita = leo = peruvian Z splax = swedish P roegi = american T unco = american P bard = polish demure = demurity = chego = Demure[NaS] = american T Armada = american P Done, except: - Leo [too many leo's ] - Armada, will do it in next round. On April 03 2019 13:59 dM-White wrote: + PrI (50) is Chilean Protoss Done. also : - TT1 vs Notforu fixed - BWCL S47 W4 DIV A fixed (sorry mr JerryK47 ) - Bard's has been sapareted. Also site is again also on native domain http://rankgim.eu | ||
SuGo
United States681 Posts
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/545170-cpl-season-4-sign-ups I am not including events with skill cap, like 1400MMR max only tourneys, B rank only et cetera. Poegim, in this same regard then should the chobo league games be counted so heavily? I see quite a few folks who are very high due to just chobo league participation. Just a question. | ||
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SuGo
United States681 Posts
On April 06 2019 01:03 Poegim wrote: Chobo league didn't hadsolid skill cap. From my point of view bsl pro/gosu/chobo was more like divisions in clan leagues. Well, in the first several rounds, there are like 1800 MMR players. So lot of folks who are 2100 who ended up winning, just farm the points in early rounds. But yes, I get your logic. | ||
Navane
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
@Navane Yes its possible, but small sample like this doesnt make any sense for me. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
rankgim.eu BW Jeez weekly 14 BWCL PLAYOFFS Q219 EGM Fight Night #4 BW Jeez weekly 15 Let's Go 2 BW Jeez weekly 16 BW Jeez weekly 17 Let's Go 3 BW Jeez weekly 18 KOK - 300 rok8-4 BW Jeez weekly 19 KOK - 300 FINALS DEFILER MEGA TOUR Let's Go 4 BW Jeez weekly 20 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali RU1 EGM Fight Night #5 BW Jeez weekly 21 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali RU2 Let's Go 5 BW Jeez weekly 22 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali EU1 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali PL1 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali RU3 BW Jeez weekly 23 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali PL2 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali FSU1 Let's Go 6 The Final Eight BW Jeez weekly 24 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali LatAm1 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali EU2 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali FSU2 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali NA1 BW Jeez weekly 25 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali LatAm2 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali NA2 Corrupted Cup 2019 Quali RU4 BW Jeez weekly 26 | ||
chrisolo
Germany2604 Posts
the usability of the site is pretty bad, other than that, THANK YOU VERY MUCH nice effort, good job | ||
FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
I dont think STPL grand playoffs/finals have been added to the R&S thread, but BWCL48 all results are here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WPT8QOrXqISAq62OXrN5-S_-bRnYGB_cSi2PPBs1Z4A/edit#gid=1774490385 BWCL47 stuff is here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VwoO-KixwNMdUxR9-zwKNjbCVDXZV0m7CsLVMl5Ljx8/edit#gid=1774490385 Might be a few scores missing...I dont see my match against dienmax for example | ||
itsdaniel
Austria326 Posts
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seriosity
United States214 Posts
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SuGo
United States681 Posts
Please add remaining STPL / BWCL 47 / BWCL 48 when you are able to | ||
Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines516 Posts
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
seriosity Profile PM Joined July 2009 United States70 Posts 14 hours ago #243 nimrod = laAbuela Fixed. FyRe_DragOn Profile Blog PM Joined November 2006 Canada1955 Posts Last Edited: 2019-07-03 23:02:03 16 hours ago #241 Hey nice update I dont think STPL grand playoffs/finals have been added to the R&S thread, but BWCL48 all results are here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WPT8QOrXqISAq62OXrN5-S_-bRnYGB_cSi2PPBs1Z4A/edit#gid=1774490385 BWCL47 stuff is here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VwoO-KixwNMdUxR9-zwKNjbCVDXZV0m7CsLVMl5Ljx8/edit#gid=1774490385 Might be a few scores missing...I dont see my match against dienmax for example BWCL S47 was already done, added BWCL S48 games (~250). Thanks. | ||
seriosity
United States214 Posts
Mutita is LeO | ||
ZZangDreamjOy
Canada958 Posts
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FakeFin
Germany386 Posts
Also keep up the great work! It's just awesome to have something like this! Also player search and options for showing inactive players and players below 700 would be great for the future | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6321 Posts
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3022 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2142 Posts
http://rankgim.eu/player_stats.php?playerID=1467 = IvAniOx GoKu = Peruvian Terran Kingtoss = peruvian protoss Darking = peruvian zerg Leveleando = peruvian zerg Raynor = bolivian terran | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
@eonzerg Yeah, i was thinking about it, mb will try do it in next update, mb soon. @Sabbbath Thanks. Player not visible becouse not enough games (10 or more to be listed). @Xenosky Thanks, ill merge and change flags/races next update. | ||
A.Alm
Sweden494 Posts
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Bonyth
Poland499 Posts
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
links in player vs player and country vs country are now shareable | ||
mSj_Artanis
60 Posts
its terran from Russia | ||
seriosity
United States214 Posts
NA Summer Starleague 1v1 Eternal Contest Tourney I assume you know about this link: Leagues/Recent Tournaments | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28262 Posts
red clan cup #22 | ||
-Debaser-
United States329 Posts
Of course the guy who won it posted it :D:D:D:D:D | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6321 Posts
On August 07 2019 18:16 Poegim wrote: @eonzerg links in player vs player and country vs country are now shareable thanks.it works nice | ||
kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
Validation criteria is a link to the official bracket/event page, then whole community can work on it. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
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FakeFin
Germany386 Posts
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dark.matter
176 Posts
1. Have volunteer mod team approve submissions. 2. Allow open submissions with registration, allow flagging invalid submissions Could have a mix of both I guess. Just thinking out loud. | ||
Ziggy
South Korea2103 Posts
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
@dark.matter yeah, will think about it /yes/no/maybe/who knows. Workin in commerce, so dont expect too much in december, but maybe next Q / jan-mar / ill try execute some ideas. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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pebble444
Italy2477 Posts
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
link to page http://rankgim.eu | ||
kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
On September 23 2020 17:44 Poegim wrote: Hey, searching for trusted person who would help with administrate bets section (tbh also for ppl who can help with updates for international and korean rankings). Probably ranking will be updated for Q3 and after that i hope next updates will be in monthly frequency ~kespa like. link to page http://rankgim.eu Can you please remove my walkovers from Polish RCG qualifiers (matches 30-33)? )) | ||
iFU.spx
Russian Federation344 Posts
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FakeFin
Germany386 Posts
On September 23 2020 17:44 Poegim wrote: tbh also for ppl who can help with updates for international and korean rankings Are there any programing skills required or just collecting information on tournaments? | ||
psyCrowe
Scotland194 Posts
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
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TT1
Canada9926 Posts
can i pls know when this happened? thx | ||
SuGo
United States681 Posts
On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote: i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this can i pls know when this happened? thx It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost. | ||
Qikz
United Kingdom12010 Posts
On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote: i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this can i pls know when this happened? thx It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost. Lmao | ||
TT1
Canada9926 Posts
On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote: i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this can i pls know when this happened? thx It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost. PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over | ||
SuGo
United States681 Posts
On September 24 2020 08:00 TT1 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote: On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote: i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this can i pls know when this happened? thx It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost. PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over You sound dumb now (well, you did sound dumb in your first post, but even dumber now). Your question was answered. I will leave it at that. See ya. | ||
Shinokuki
United States849 Posts
On September 24 2020 08:00 TT1 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote: On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote: i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this can i pls know when this happened? thx It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost. PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over oh i remember this! when tt1 unexpectedly got eliminated in the NASL qualifier. | ||
9-BiT
United States1089 Posts
on a side note LMAOOOO i'm ranked higher than julia get BTFO van gogh | ||
TT1
Canada9926 Posts
On September 24 2020 08:14 Shinokuki wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2020 08:00 TT1 wrote: On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote: On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote: i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this can i pls know when this happened? thx It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost. PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over oh i remember this! when tt1 unexpectedly got eliminated in the NASL qualifier. On September 24 2020 08:11 SuGo wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2020 08:00 TT1 wrote: On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote: On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote: i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this can i pls know when this happened? thx It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost. PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over You sound dumb now (well, you did sound dumb in your first post, but even dumber now). Your question was answered. I will leave it at that. See ya. Yea i remember the qualifiers, it took me 3 tries to get in. I remember the losses from the first 2 vs castle/aegyo/models but i genuinely don't remember the game vs susgo.. i must have suppressed the memory lmao. That's why i'm curious about the game :D surely a dt or goon allin on a rampless map, kaka | ||
AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2142 Posts
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
U lost here in loser bracket to mr Sugo. Rest answers when ill come back home | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
On September 24 2020 19:20 Liquid`Ret wrote: I clicked on the international ranking for this and saw 3 koreans at the top, does international ranking not mean non-korean players? I agree those should be removed. The thing with keeping them is they play a lot in "foreign" tournaments, hence it kinda makes sense to keep them. Overall a non-korean version of the ranking with re calculated ELO would be interesting to see, as some of the top koreans have a relatively low ELO due to few games (e.g I have lost vs YSC who had like 1000 points while he could have easily topped the ranking in reality) So to sum it up - have an only foreigner ranking (so you can actually say who plays best vs foreigners) and have a korean only ranking that maps only korea vs korea matches.. Primary argument for that is two different player / event pools, it is really uncomparable. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
On September 23 2020 18:21 kogeT wrote: Show nested quote + On September 23 2020 17:44 Poegim wrote: Hey, searching for trusted person who would help with administrate bets section (tbh also for ppl who can help with updates for international and korean rankings). Probably ranking will be updated for Q3 and after that i hope next updates will be in monthly frequency ~kespa like. link to page http://rankgim.eu Can you please remove my walkovers from Polish RCG qualifiers (matches 30-33)? )) Im sorry Mr KogeT but wo is just loss according to the rules that have been established and according to the organizers of a given tournament. Due to no possiblity to check whether each loss was forfeit or not all games reported by organizers as loss are just loss is ranking. Otherwise, some players would be treated unfairly due to just dont know their wo games are reported as lost. Also there is possibility players can gave intentional wo in some circumstances to get better place in next round group/bracket et cetera. On September 23 2020 19:51 iFU.spx wrote: wow, pretty cool project! And im on top of the site Thanks! On September 23 2020 23:35 FakeFin wrote: Show nested quote + On September 23 2020 17:44 Poegim wrote: tbh also for ppl who can help with updates for international and korean rankings Are there any programing skills required or just collecting information on tournaments? Nope, there is dedicated form to fill, simple and pretty fast / easy. On September 24 2020 01:38 psyCrowe wrote: Great initiative, sounds alot like Gosubet from back in the day On September 24 2020 02:04 FyRe_DragOn wrote: cool to see this is still around Thanks! On September 24 2020 19:20 Liquid`Ret wrote: I clicked on the international ranking for this and saw 3 koreans at the top, does international ranking not mean non-korean players? It was created as foreigner only but instantly i have been asked many times where is Scan , also if they play in international tournaments and organizers allow them to play i dont see any reason to not include them. There is also few other things like, you cant realy know all players and be sure this unknown xyz nickname is korean or not. On September 24 2020 19:31 kogeT wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2020 19:20 Liquid`Ret wrote: I clicked on the international ranking for this and saw 3 koreans at the top, does international ranking not mean non-korean players? I agree those should be removed. The thing with keeping them is they play a lot in "foreign" tournaments, hence it kinda makes sense to keep them. Overall a non-korean version of the ranking with re calculated ELO would be interesting to see, as some of the top koreans have a relatively low ELO due to few games (e.g I have lost vs YSC who had like 1000 points while he could have easily topped the ranking in reality) So to sum it up - have an only foreigner ranking (so you can actually say who plays best vs foreigners) and have a korean only ranking that maps only korea vs korea matches.. Primary argument for that is two different player / event pools, it is really uncomparable. Yeah and many low rank players lost to you when you had low ELO. Shouldt Chaelyn be allowed? Or maybe just PROs? But then Scan and ajuk wasnt pro anyway i belive. Should be Cross allowed? Is he realy Canadian or just Korean? Is Jayun more Korean or more American, who would judge? There is many problems with that. Its more on tounament organizers hands from my perspective. | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
In my eyes it was always clear that regional competition is the preferred format. And for a ranking like this, it would make most sense for korean players to not be included. (Though that makes it weird if tournament organisers do actually include them, like you said.) | ||
FakeFin
Germany386 Posts
On September 24 2020 19:47 Poegim wrote: Show nested quote + On September 23 2020 23:35 FakeFin wrote: On September 23 2020 17:44 Poegim wrote: tbh also for ppl who can help with updates for international and korean rankings Are there any programing skills required or just collecting information on tournaments? Nope, there is dedicated form to fill, simple and pretty fast / easy. Ah great i can help with the korean ranking then(and also a bit with foreign if more help is needed), i'm liquipedia editor so i have a pretty decent overview of the korean competitions | ||
kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
I think the goal of the tool is to create the most realistic ranking of foreign players, based on their actual results/skill. If you allow players to report walkover so they can be removed they only thing you get is better database. The example of "intentional" vo to get a better place still doesnt matter, as what you try to measure is ELO performance based on matches played against each other. Otherwise you consciously corrupt your data without getting any additional benefit from this. Same for your betting part - the odds should be based on real matches, not walkovers. | ||
TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
On September 24 2020 20:01 Liquid`Ret wrote: Yes, I have to say it was surprising to me that 3 years after remastered came out, foreign tournaments still have koreans partake in them to win most of the prize money. In my eyes it was always clear that regional competition is the preferred format. And for a ranking like this, it would make most sense for korean players to not be included. (Though that makes it weird if tournament organisers do actually include them, like you said.) I whole heartedly agree with this, thanks for sharing your words of brilliance Mr.Ret. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
Change my mind / to fix some games and other not, and BIG one, how to verify when someone will say he lost by wo et cetera. Just belive a word? | ||
kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2049 Posts
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GeckoXp
Germany2013 Posts
On September 25 2020 01:17 FyRe_DragOn wrote: I too would like to see a foreigner ranking with no koreans. I just subtract the koreans from the ranking myself mentally anyway. And yeah a few tournaments like HAY and STPL allow koreans, others like BSL and BWCL do not. Afaik the rules are that in order to play, you must be living in a country other than korea..so people like jaeyun and cross are considered american/canadian, while chaelyn is considered korean. I mean, these players are already clearly labelled with the correct flags, so it seems you already know where to draw the line lol. Just remove all the ones with korean flags..I dont see that theres any confusion really. It's just a question if you show them in the final ranking or not. You need them as reference, else the scores are skewed and biased. Same reason that walk overs shouldn't count toward your ranking, it adds needless variance statistically speaking as those are not related to your skill. | ||
TT1
Canada9926 Posts
the ranking system is a nice idea but the execution is suspect | ||
kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2000 Posts
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Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12010 Posts
Perhaps if you had a seperate Global Ranking where it had both the Koreans and Foreigners who play in foreign tournaments and just a foreign one where you remove all koreans? That way you get the best of both worlds. | ||
Poegim
Poland261 Posts
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Comedy
400 Posts
On September 25 2020 21:35 Qikz wrote: My favourite thing about showing the global Koreans (ones that play in HAY and STPL) is it shows just how amazingly good Bonyth and Dewalt actually are. Dewalt even beat Shine for instance in a tournament macro game, albeit a Bo1 that's a huge achievement. Perhaps if you had a seperate Global Ranking where it had both the Koreans and Foreigners who play in foreign tournaments and just a foreign one where you remove all koreans? That way you get the best of both worlds. It's the worst of both worlds. Games between koreans and foreigners are always laggy and will never bring out the best play out of anybody. Perhaps dewalt and bonyth are able to do well in laggy games in PvZ sometimes, but it's meaningless entirely. | ||
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