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ASL5 Power Rank
March 10th, 2018 17:42 GMT
ASL5 is right around the corner and you know what that means? Power Rank time! Go ahead and read it, discuss it and share your own rankings! #1: Flash 3 times! 3 times! 3 time ASL champion! And still going strong, so strong that it's rumored that in a meeting between Afreeca and the players, an Afreeca employee openly mused about how to get rid of Flash this season. It's one thing to say when it's one against 15 (being seeded in the Ro16), but it's a whole different thing when you’re this dominant that the tournament organizers are against you. #2: Larva Following his Ro4 run last season, being shy of the finals by a single game against hero, Larva has not only continued to tear up the sponmatch scene, but has also come to a point where he's able to take series of matches against anyone not named Flash (some numbers are skewed due to older versions of sparkle too). Larva is in the best form of his life and being fast tracked into the Ro16 certainly earns him this high spot. #3: Rain Rain’s performance in the Wildcard matches against Killer and Soulkey proves that he's earned his spot in the Ro16. His overall performance against zergs these last two months have shown that Protoss players need not lose hope for representation this season. While Rain’s performance against Terran is still a cause for concern, he has fared a lot better against them in offline matches than he has online. #4: Soulkey Soulkey is the best zerg in the sponmatch scene as we speak and others will argue (with great merit too) that he's the best zerg player at the moment, but his performance offline doesn’t always live up to promise. His performance in a Bo5 scenario can make or break his run, but an entry to the bracket stages is pretty much a given where he is among his peers. #5: BeSt There is no known unknowns with BeSt when it comes to his performance. His macro is always insane and his decision making skills are always questionable. Last season, he was out maneuvered by Mong in the Ro16 and suffered a bad case of PvP, thus proving me wrong that he would certainly make the Ro8. This season however, I’m doubling down on that claim. He should by all accounts make it to the Ro8. If any of the above 3 are not on his side, he should make a deeper run too. #6: Last The fall of Last was a quiet one, it just sort of happened and nobody took notice since Flash pretty much overshadowed all Terrans by that point. Still, the numbers on sponbbang continue to prove that he is the second best Terran out there well capable of being more than a match against anyone this season. #7: by.hero Hero is the the anti-Soulkey where in the case of online sponmatches, hero while good, isn't something overly special or catches the eyes of anyone (though he's doing pretty well at the moment). But, then he busts out into the finals of the ASL like last season. It's likely some could argue his bracket luck was great last season, but his run was well deserved and he played the best matches against his opponents. #8: Mind Mind has been having a resurgence in form as of late thanks to his performance in KRS weeklies during the downtime. While KRS does make it impossible to see just how much his TvT is holding up his play, his other 2 matchups have been consistently solid so far and it's likely that he’ll continue the performance going into this season. #9: Jaedong Jaedong has good days and bad days, on a good day, he’s very much capable of 4 killing Terran and Protoss teams for the zerg team on KRS and there are days when his wrists hurt so much, it's just not possible to do much. But, one thing can be said, Jaedong has not gone out without a hard fought match with his opponents often just barely keeping up with him. The fans can hope they never do keep up with him. One more championship for one of the best there is, best there was and the best there ever will be, would be more than gratifying for everyone. #10: EffOrt EffOrt is without a doubt a great zerg, even one of the best, but hot damn does he have a curse stronger than the CJ choke when it comes to the ASL. Be it, because of his unlucky opponent draw or his opponents suddenly gain superhuman confidence against him, it's like nothing has clicked for him in the history of the ASL, especially since EffOrt, like Jaedong is a player who often excels in the Bo5 scenario rather than the group stages. He is very capable of playing the best games against anyone above him. #11: Shuttle Shuttle is a KRS monster at the moment, absolutely one of the better Protoss representatives out there and had there been another season of ATB, we’d probably see any team he was on be considered pretty strong because of him. While the ASL 1 champion has had his ups and downs over the last year, right now, he's on the up and up and could really use a single run to showcase what most people have been missing about him so far. #12: Snow His fans will swear by him. Definitely a strong protoss with a PvT that's truly his own style, but he's still a bit rough around the edges when it comes to his PvZ. But, there's nothing a bit of sparkle cannot fix for a Protoss right now. #13: Stork If you’ve been following the map test, you will come to know one thing, Stork wins on sparkle. He's amazing on the map and he's going to have a good run this season, but will it be enough? Probably not, but he's definitely going to do pretty well this season and a boost of confidence from Sparkle might help him get a better mindset on practicing on other maps. #14: Sharp Sharp had a hard loss last season against Killer on the final set of his Ro16 Group. His TvT is still solid and his TvZ, while isn’t anything special can usually get him wins. His TvP however has always been a weak spot. Luckily, it's not like he's going to face Mini in the Ro24 on Sparkle and he's already beaten him in the Ro24 last season. #15: Mong Mong is relatively in the same situation that he was in last season and to reiterate on the point we made last time, given an easy group, it's possible for him to get ahead, but his Ro24 group this season seems like its going to be a tough call for him. #16: Sea Sea’s removal last season also meant that to him, he made the transition from player to full time entertainer. While still a solid terran and overall balanced in all his matchups, its unlikely that we’ll ever see a deep run coming out from Sea unless he decides to practice harder than anyone else, or at least hard enough to tell his mom what a monster he's become. #17: Mini Mini will continue to subvert all expectations of him. He's good but inconsistent vs good players and bad vs mediocre players. Sparkle might save him from a very bad fate this season. #18: Light You probably didn’t see that Light even qualified for this season. Well, he did it the only way he knows how, killing Zergs and mostly keeping away from Protoss, because Light is still Light and his TvP as always makes a fan cry. #19: Rush Rush is a practice monster. He's very capable of grinding games and meticulously preparing for his opponents, however, group stages are always the enemy of such players. Funny enough, he's going up against Mind again in his group and he can only hope things go better for him. #20: Movie After missing out on ASL4, Movie has been all but absent from the scene. It's highly unlikely that the Iron Reaver will make a deep run, but then again for Protoss players, this season looks to be the one that pushes their numbers. #21: Sky Sky’s performance after qualifying last season was pretty much crushing and abysmal. It's likely he was hit hard by nerves, but now that he has another chance to get back up there, this former early sonic era protoss star looks to make another hopefully meaningful run for his career. #22: Pusan Pusan’s qualifier final match against Killer was the most exciting game on the qualifiers, however it was one of those games that do not inspire confidence for a longer run. Best we can hope for from the Spirit Toss is that he gives us more entertaining games. #23: Action The Mafia Zerg makes his ASL debut.For those who don't know Action's history, he was one of the best management zergs out there in the KeSPA era, first as Ace of ESTRO and then the Zerg frontrunner for KT Rolster. The general sentiment towards him was that once he got to hive, he was just unstoppable in ZvT. He's had constant showings so far in the KRS (in fact, pretty much a mainstay for team zerg) that show that he may not be rusty anymore, but it's his first offline outing in a long time, so expect fumbles. #24: Shine Shine may have come back to being in full observer mode from his bag of builds state based on his performance in the last season, dropping quickly in the Ro16 (seeded into an all-Zerg group). With no time to show anything during his downtime due to his obligations to Afreeca, it's unlikely we will see another ASL3 level run from him. #25: Horang2 This qualification comes as a real surprise seeing as how Horang2 spends his time playing PUBG with fellow streamers these days, but I guess Starcraft senses make it, so that the Tiger Toss could make another run for an ASL, though he might not make it far. #26: GuemChi Wind back the clocks to 2 years ago and I’d tell you that GuemChi was one of the best protoss players in the post-KeSPA scene, but now he's more of an entertainment streamer and will get knocked out pretty early. #27: Calm It's about time we saw Calm in ASL. He's been practicing and attempting qualifiers for a couple of seasons now, but hasn’t made much of a showing outside of that either. Maybe now that he has made it in, we could probably get those 5 or I think 6 STX fans in our community back. But, his opening group looks like a bit too much of a challenge for him to get past. #28: Where Where or MIsO is becoming the perennial rookie who always makes it into the ASL but never gets past the Ro24. Maybe this is his season? His Ro24 group seems to make me think no. Writers: BLinD-RawR Graphics: v1 Editors: Bigfan Photo Credits:
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Larva will destroy everyone in 2008
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Very hyped! Great write-up.
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United States32494 Posts
Bret Hart's career also prematurely ended due to injury :'(
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South Korea2103 Posts
Still a better way to go than some of the other Harts...
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I really hope we see Larva vs Flash finals/semifinals with larva winning
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Jaedong the Excellence Of Execution. <3
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Thanks for the post, i hope to see a different top 4 for a change
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What happened to Killer? I'm out of the loop these days.
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Now that's a ranking I can get behind
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I would have Shuttle and Hero higher, Best and Mind lower.
Soulkey is number two IMO. Larva is 3.
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So is there any chance Flash is going to be knocked out at any point?
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From the BeSt article
If any of the above 3 are not on his side
Looks like somebody second guessed BeSt's ranking
Edit: Or is that meant to exclude FlaSh explicitly?
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Amazing, super hype!!! ....FlaSh is too good clearly for ASL lol
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United States9652 Posts
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On March 11 2018 06:38 Pandain wrote: So is there any chance Flash is going to be knocked out at any point?
he's probably going to win them all until he starts military service
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Excellent write up. I am really savouring this ASL
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On March 11 2018 06:38 Pandain wrote: So is there any chance Flash is going to be knocked out at any point? Ofc there is a chance for that, flash might be the best but he can still lose. Though he might actually be favored to win ASL against the whole field, meaning it's more likely that he wins than it is that he doesn't win, which is pretty insane.
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Netherlands4491 Posts
On March 11 2018 06:38 Pandain wrote: So is there any chance Flash is going to be knocked out at any point? I can see Best or Stork beat Flash in a Bo5. JD and Soulkey would be my next picks as contenders, but their decision making vs T seems too heavily focused on flawless micro execution. As the game progresses that ultimately just backfires vs. Flash. Out of all Zergs, I really want to say Hero is the one to take out Flash, his decision making tends to take the most realistic approach. He just isn't consistent enough in his overall execution for a Bo5 win over god...
Any Terran doesn't stand a chance, unless Flash decides to get humiliated by D-matrixed siege tanks once more.....
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Netherlands4491 Posts
Ranking Pusan above Shine is just hating.
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Nice to see Larva getting better and better. Can he challenge Flash himself? Time will tell. My heart goes to JD, as always.
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On March 11 2018 08:50 letian wrote: Nice to see Larva getting better and better. Can he challenge Flash himself? Time will tell. My heart goes to JD, as always.
didn't he 5-0 Flash few days ago?
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I love the Bret Hart reference.
This will be an interesting ASL for sure. That sparkle map should provide some interesting games for us.
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The best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.
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Really sleeping on Mini here. You're putting Stork above him?
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What's KRS, ATB, sponmatches?
Haven't followed actively since last ASL.
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On March 11 2018 10:11 iopq wrote: Really sleeping on Mini here. You're putting Stork above him?
Mini is extremely underrated but so is Stork. He has the best winrate among all P's on Sparkle (77.3% past 2 months) and hes 22-4 (84.6%) vs Z.
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love wrestling, always glad to see a reference
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YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ALL PLAYERS ARE CREATED EQUAL BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT FLASH AND YOU LOOK AT RAIN AND YOU SEE THAT STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE. YOU SEE NORMALLY WHEN YOU GO UP AGAINST ANOTHER PLAYER YOU HAVE A 50% CHANCE OF WINNING. BUT FLASH IS A GENETIC FREAK AND HES NOT NORMAL, SO YOU GOT 25% AT BEST AT BEAT HIM. AND THEN YOU ADD LARVA TO THE MIX, AND YOUR CHANCES OF WINNING DRASTIC GO DOWN.
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man is this picture serious? this site used to have a little class. this is somewhat ridiculous.
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On March 11 2018 08:40 Peeano wrote:Ranking Pusan above Shine is just hating.
Pusan should be ranked above everyone imo.
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On March 11 2018 13:45 Tempest99 wrote: man is this picture serious? this site used to have a little class. this is somewhat ridiculous. you're not serious are you?
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does JD say on stream that his wrists hurt like crazy? that blows donkey balls. so basically he is shortening his career every-time he plays. great.
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On March 11 2018 14:30 Golgotha wrote: does JD say on stream that his wrists hurt like crazy? that blows donkey balls. so basically he is shortening his career every-time he plays. great.
Jaedong's regulary puts icepacks on his wrists between games to reduce the pain & swelling. His doctors have urged him to quit gaming completely before the damage is permanent.
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ahahaha who would have thought to see the one, the only, BRET THE HITMAN HART
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Reminder that Shuttle is ranked 11, and Where/Miso is ranked 28.
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Thank you for this!
Can't wait to bicker about it as the season goes forward :D
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There is a precedent of a rule change to penalize the best in sports. 1976-1978 Ingemar Stenmark won the world cup in alpine skiing. 1979 there was a rule change targeted him specifically. It didn't matter anymore that he won with seconds in a sport where there usually is only parts of seconds that differ the top. Please don't do that, ASL!
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On March 11 2018 20:00 Drfilip wrote: There is a precedent of a rule change to penalize the best in sports. 1976-1978 Ingemar Stenmark won the world cup in alpine skiing. 1979 there was a rule change targeted him specifically. It didn't matter anymore that he won with seconds in a sport where there usually is only parts of seconds that differ the top. Please don't do that, ASL!
They don't! Even more, they introduced a map that zerg has no chance against T in bo3/5
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poor light, forever the invisible terran
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Is that the reason for the island map? To get rid of flash... It's interesting how flash will play in that map... Go go go flash!
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On March 12 2018 18:45 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: Is that the reason for the island map? To get rid of flash... It's interesting how flash will play in that map... Go go go flash!
Flash has arguably the best drop and wraith micro in recent years, so I don't think sparkle is a detriment to him. It may even highlight some specific strengths.
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On March 12 2018 19:10 orvinreyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2018 18:45 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: Is that the reason for the island map? To get rid of flash... It's interesting how flash will play in that map... Go go go flash! Flash has arguably the best drop and wraith micro in recent years, so I don't think sparkle is a detriment to him. It may even highlight some specific strengths. It's gonna be the dirtiest girl, cannot wait to see him destroy.
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FML won't be able to catch this season but believe it's gonna be a big blast with unique maps. Larva fighting!
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I've always seen good Horang2 matches, his micro is fantastic. Maybe the lack of trust on himself has not allowed him to be a reference at the last years. But now i see him more confident, and I think he could even finish first in his group.
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the '97 Montreal Screwjob was a work.
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Can someone tell me something about who is Movie?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES48991 Posts
On March 14 2018 03:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote: the '97 Montreal Screwjob was a work. yeah we're all just jabronie marks that don't know it a work when you work a work and work yourself into a shoot,marks.
On March 14 2018 14:28 Alpha-NP- wrote: Can someone tell me something about who is Movie?
former CJ entus Protoss player, a solid A teamer in proleague who had good PvZ and was the EVER09 OSL Finalist.
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On March 14 2018 14:28 Alpha-NP- wrote: Can someone tell me something about who is Movie?
Historically speaking?
Probably the most accomplished protoss player (professional career-wise) who made his debut after the professional debut of the "Six Dragons" (the last generation of great protoss players who made their professional debut between 2004 and 2006).
Protoss champions who made his professional debut after 2007: Nobody Protoss finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: Movie Protoss semi-finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: Movie Protoss quarter-finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: Movie (two times), Stats (once), SnOw (once), Grape (once), and Mini (once)
Top five protoss players who made their debut after 2007, ranked by their overall number of ProLeague victories:
1. Stats: 86-60 (58.9%) 2. Movie: 76-67 (53.1%) 3. Horang2: 68-48 (58.6%) 4. SnOw: 54-47 (53.5%) 5. Sea.GuemChi: 48-58 (45.3%)
His on-and-off relationship with Brood War and streaming in general after his professional career came to a close hasn't exactly helped his legacy, but there was once a time when Movie was the next bright hope for the protoss race. Despite his extremely low APM, his sturdy yet potent style versus zergs (Movie has one of the highest professional career win rates versus the zerg race from the protoss race), always allowed Movie to progress past those pesky zerg players in the individual leagues unlike most of his peers.
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Thank you very much guys. I was interested in knowing more about him.
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I'm not actually familiar with most of these players so I kind of guessed at the liquibets. If this rankings are right though my bets are going down the toilet.
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Great explanation of movie! I love some of his old games so it's nice for someone to say something more than that he got in a finals once.
So I've been trying to watch some Korean streams and a lot of the players are easy to recognise via thumbnails or usernames etc, but I can't find soulkey. Could someone give me a link to his steam please?
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TLADT24917 Posts
On March 14 2018 14:28 Alpha-NP- wrote: Can someone tell me something about who is Movie? Movie is that guy who had some great finishes this era and seemed to pull them out of thin air. In all seriousness, back in like 2014/15 when SSL was still ongoing, he would barely be practicing then he would come in and advance from his group against all expectations. He also had great PvZ as well but sadly, doesn't practice or stream much anymore afaik so he's not in the same form as he was in the past. Teacher Movie fighting! ~
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Sky fighting! rank 21!
oh wait...
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Dunno why so much hate for Shine.
There's something to be said for just having the ability to win games when it matters.
Regardless of any perceived differences in skill I'd take Shine over Effort any day.
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On March 15 2018 09:25 TheSkilfulQuail wrote: Great explanation of movie! I love some of his old games so it's nice for someone to say something more than that he got in a finals once.
So I've been trying to watch some Korean streams and a lot of the players are easy to recognise via thumbnails or usernames etc, but I can't find soulkey. Could someone give me a link to his steam please?
http://korhal.info.pl/#/soulkey
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On March 30 2018 01:22 kogeT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 09:25 TheSkilfulQuail wrote: Great explanation of movie! I love some of his old games so it's nice for someone to say something more than that he got in a finals once.
So I've been trying to watch some Korean streams and a lot of the players are easy to recognise via thumbnails or usernames etc, but I can't find soulkey. Could someone give me a link to his steam please? http://korhal.info.pl/#/soulkey
Thanks! Hope he does better next season...
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Man this ASL wrecked most of these power rankings. Am I wrong?
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On March 14 2018 16:42 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2018 14:28 Alpha-NP- wrote: Can someone tell me something about who is Movie? Historically speaking? Probably the most accomplished protoss player (professional career-wise) who made his debut after the professional debut of the "Six Dragons" (the last generation of great protoss players who made their professional debut between 2004 and 2006). Protoss champions who made his professional debut after 2007: Nobody Protoss finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: MovieProtoss semi-finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: MovieProtoss quarter-finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: Movie (two times), Stats (once), SnOw (once), Grape (once), and Mini (once) Top five protoss players who made their debut after 2007, ranked by their overall number of ProLeague victories: 1. Stats: 86-60 (58.9%) 2. Movie: 76-67 (53.1%)3. Horang2: 68-48 (58.6%) 4. SnOw: 54-47 (53.5%) 5. Sea.GuemChi: 48-58 (45.3%) His on-and-off relationship with Brood War and streaming in general after his professional career came to a close hasn't exactly helped his legacy, but there was once a time when Movie was the next bright hope for the protoss race. Despite his extremely low APM, his sturdy yet potent style versus zergs (Movie has one of the highest professional career win rates versus the zerg race from the protoss race), always allowed Movie to progress past those pesky zerg players in the individual leagues unlike most of his peers. Great post. But wouldn't horang2 be number 2? I mean hes 5% higher on win rate. Total wins can't be everything.
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On March 30 2018 16:51 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2018 16:42 Letmelose wrote:On March 14 2018 14:28 Alpha-NP- wrote: Can someone tell me something about who is Movie? Historically speaking? Probably the most accomplished protoss player (professional career-wise) who made his debut after the professional debut of the "Six Dragons" (the last generation of great protoss players who made their professional debut between 2004 and 2006). Protoss champions who made his professional debut after 2007: Nobody Protoss finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: MovieProtoss semi-finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: MovieProtoss quarter-finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: Movie (two times), Stats (once), SnOw (once), Grape (once), and Mini (once) Top five protoss players who made their debut after 2007, ranked by their overall number of ProLeague victories: 1. Stats: 86-60 (58.9%) 2. Movie: 76-67 (53.1%)3. Horang2: 68-48 (58.6%) 4. SnOw: 54-47 (53.5%) 5. Sea.GuemChi: 48-58 (45.3%) His on-and-off relationship with Brood War and streaming in general after his professional career came to a close hasn't exactly helped his legacy, but there was once a time when Movie was the next bright hope for the protoss race. Despite his extremely low APM, his sturdy yet potent style versus zergs (Movie has one of the highest professional career win rates versus the zerg race from the protoss race), always allowed Movie to progress past those pesky zerg players in the individual leagues unlike most of his peers. Great post. But wouldn't horang2 be number 2? I mean hes 5% higher on win rate. Total wins can't be everything.
Sure that's one explanation of the status quo, but I am of a different opinion. By that logic Horang2 becomes the greatest PvP professional Brood War player of all time because of his superior win rates.
I personally tend to not associate player strength with ProLeague win rates. It tends to be heavily influenced by the coach's ability to organize the roster entry. Overall number of victories and number of games are more indicative of a team's innate trust in the player himself.
For example, Horang2 was somebody who was strong at PvP, and was weak at PvZ. Movie was somebody who was strong at PvZ, and was weak at PvP.
Horang2 was fortunate enough to play PvP (his strongest match-up) in 51.7% of his ProLeague games, while only being sniped by the enemy team in PvZ games in 20.7% of his ProLeague games.
Movie was unfortunate in that his PvZ ProLeague matches comprised only 35.7% of his ProLeague games, while his weakest match-up of PvP comprised 35.0% of his ProLeague games. He roughly has an even distribution of all three match-ups within the ProLeague setting. Perhaps his team thought of him as an all rounder, perhaps he was sniped more successfully than Horang2 who was almost never sent in conditions that would bring out the worst in him.
Horang2 filled a nice niche as the greatest PvP ProLeague sniper of the final years of professional Brood War, but his high win rates are more indicative of his coaches ability to correctly recognize his player's attributes, rather than Horang2 being innately more successful than Movie within the ProLeague setting.
Any half-decent player can have insanely high win rates if they only play on their favourite map, in their favourite match-up, carefully picking who to go against, and playing only when their form is top notch. Movie's lower ProLeague win rate is more indicative of his team's trust in him to play his non-favourite match-ups with some competency, in my opinion, maybe that was somewhat unfounded, but who is to say that Horang2 would have had higher win rates if he was given more opportunities considering the fact that he was more limited as a player?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES48991 Posts
On March 30 2018 16:48 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Man this ASL wrecked most of these power rankings. Am I wrong?
well I enjoy being wrong on this :D
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On March 30 2018 17:23 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2018 16:51 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On March 14 2018 16:42 Letmelose wrote:On March 14 2018 14:28 Alpha-NP- wrote: Can someone tell me something about who is Movie? Historically speaking? Probably the most accomplished protoss player (professional career-wise) who made his debut after the professional debut of the "Six Dragons" (the last generation of great protoss players who made their professional debut between 2004 and 2006). Protoss champions who made his professional debut after 2007: Nobody Protoss finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: MovieProtoss semi-finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: MovieProtoss quarter-finalists who made his professional debut after 2007: Movie (two times), Stats (once), SnOw (once), Grape (once), and Mini (once) Top five protoss players who made their debut after 2007, ranked by their overall number of ProLeague victories: 1. Stats: 86-60 (58.9%) 2. Movie: 76-67 (53.1%)3. Horang2: 68-48 (58.6%) 4. SnOw: 54-47 (53.5%) 5. Sea.GuemChi: 48-58 (45.3%) His on-and-off relationship with Brood War and streaming in general after his professional career came to a close hasn't exactly helped his legacy, but there was once a time when Movie was the next bright hope for the protoss race. Despite his extremely low APM, his sturdy yet potent style versus zergs (Movie has one of the highest professional career win rates versus the zerg race from the protoss race), always allowed Movie to progress past those pesky zerg players in the individual leagues unlike most of his peers. Great post. But wouldn't horang2 be number 2? I mean hes 5% higher on win rate. Total wins can't be everything. Sure that's one explanation of the status quo, but I am of a different opinion. By that logic Horang2 becomes the greatest PvP professional Brood War player of all time because of his superior win rates. I personally tend to not associate player strength with ProLeague win rates. It tends to be heavily influenced by the coach's ability to organize the roster entry. Overall number of victories and number of games are more indicative of a team's innate trust in the player himself. For example, Horang2 was somebody who was strong at PvP, and was weak at PvZ. Movie was somebody who was strong at PvZ, and was weak at PvP. Horang2 was fortunate enough to play PvP (his strongest match-up) in 51.7% of his ProLeague games, while only being sniped by the enemy team in PvZ games in 20.7% of his ProLeague games. Movie was unfortunate in that his PvZ ProLeague matches comprised only 35.7% of his ProLeague games, while his weakest match-up of PvP comprised 35.0% of his ProLeague games. He roughly has an even distribution of all three match-ups within the ProLeague setting. Perhaps his team thought of him as an all rounder, perhaps he was sniped more successfully than Horang2 who was almost never sent in conditions that would bring out the worst in him. Horang2 filled a nice niche as the greatest PvP ProLeague sniper of the final years of professional Brood War, but his high win rates are more indicative of his coaches ability to correctly recognize his player's attributes, rather than Horang2 being innately more successful than Movie within the ProLeague setting. Any half-decent player can have insanely high win rates if they only play on their favourite map, in their favourite match-up, carefully picking who to go against, and playing only when their form is top notch. Movie's lower ProLeague win rate is more indicative of his team's trust in him to play his non-favourite match-ups with some competency, in my opinion, maybe that was somewhat unfounded, but who is to say that Horang2 would have had higher win rates if he was given more opportunities considering the fact that he was more limited as a player?
I love your posts so much. I wondered why you would disagree with him and your explanation for it is just perfect. Please keep posting.
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god, why did i miss wildcards? ;(
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