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On February 12 2019 06:32 SchAmToo wrote: Why spend so much time making a post about something so incredibly trivial. There's a lot of stuff to get enthusiastic about, but this?
... just looks like you're looking to be outraged over something.
The replay issue may seem trivial, but I think their decision making process warrants concern. Maybe you don't understand because you are actually on twitter, following him, and replied to his tweet, but I think this way of getting feedback leaves the rest of the community feeling excluded. I don't understand why that makes me looking to be outraged.
What is there to be enthusiastic about? The most recent patch was pretty lackluster. The changes were too simple for the amount of time it took them to roll out the patch. When is Relaxed Input coming? Why is there still no watch replay button on the score screen?
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inorite, how dare they keep patching a 20+ year old game. This is insane!
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On February 12 2019 11:00 SCWes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 06:32 SchAmToo wrote: Why spend so much time making a post about something so incredibly trivial. There's a lot of stuff to get enthusiastic about, but this?
... just looks like you're looking to be outraged over something. The replay issue may seem trivial, but I think their decision making process warrants concern. Maybe you don't understand because you are actually on twitter, following him, and replied to his tweet, but I think this way of getting feedback leaves the rest of the community feeling excluded. I don't understand why that makes me looking to be outraged. What is there to be enthusiastic about? The most recent patch was pretty lackluster. The changes were too simple for the amount of time it took them to roll out the patch. When is Relaxed Input coming? Why is there still no watch replay button on the score screen? they used a quick twitter poll for a trivial issue, that doesn't mean they're going to use a twitter poll for stuff that actually matters
so schamtoo's right in that this basically looks like you're going way out of your way to get outraged at basically nothing
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On February 12 2019 06:32 SchAmToo wrote: Why spend so much time making a post about something so incredibly trivial. There's a lot of stuff to get enthusiastic about, but this?
... just looks like you're looking to be outraged over something.
What is trivial about the fact that Blizzard thinks, making decisions based on a twitter poll answered by 92 people is a correct way to decide about features of the game?
Most people do not have twitter nor use it regularly. Making a decision based on that is just stupid and no matter what the question was, it should never be like that.
And I disagree that this is a trivial topic. Replays shorter than 2 minutes can clutter up your replay folder, if you play a lot of custom games. Since people are likely to leave within the first few seconds in custom games (lag, unbalanced teams, etc.). Why not just make it an option, like "Do you want to save replays shorter than 2 minutes?" and everyone is happy.
But deciding to not change anything based on a 92 twitter poll that caused a decision based on a 4 vote difference (does not matter which side won), is just not the way I want to see things being handled from the SC:R Devs.
BTW I am the original thread poster on the BNet forums and I am not just looking to be outraged over something and I would really appreciate if you would not make presumptions about me or try to make my valid claim look like whine, just because you saw the poll and have twitter and got the decision you wanted (yea I saw you in the twitter feed).
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On February 12 2019 06:14 Dead9 wrote: the decision was to not do anything, which can easily be decided by a twitter poll. it's basically asking "do enough people care about this feature for us to investigate further"
if the decision was to actually implement something i'd understand if people were upset but this is barely a decision, much less a major one
stop with the twitter polls, alot people not use twitter xD
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Just save the replay manualy, I thought that BW players didn't like having their hand held?
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On February 12 2019 17:08 Ej_ wrote: Just save the replay manualy, I thought that BW players didn't like having their hand held?
i dont get it either ^^
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On February 12 2019 09:51 SchAmToo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 08:55 SCWes wrote:On February 12 2019 05:52 RAPiDCasting wrote: I don't know if removing < 2min replays counts as a "essential feature" or a "major decision" but it's always good to see developers reaching out to the community for feedback instead of ignoring it and doing things on their own. I would agree that it isn't a major decision, and reaching out to the community is great, but IMO this isn't how you go about reaching our community. " this isn't how you go about reaching our community." is unfair and disingenuous at best. As a content creator trying to reach every spectrum of "our community" (which I assume you mean SCBW at large) I'd love for someone to name ONE place to get the majority of the community. It's not bnet forums, tl forums, defiler forums, afreeca forums, whatever other korean forums, reddit, etc... Our "community" is so divided is twitter that much worse an option? I don't think so.
Twitter isn't that popular outside of the US.
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If Trump is on twitter, everyone are... at least the americans think so nowadays
P.S.
On February 12 2019 09:51 SchAmToo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 08:55 SCWes wrote:On February 12 2019 05:52 RAPiDCasting wrote: I don't know if removing < 2min replays counts as a "essential feature" or a "major decision" but it's always good to see developers reaching out to the community for feedback instead of ignoring it and doing things on their own. I would agree that it isn't a major decision, and reaching out to the community is great, but IMO this isn't how you go about reaching our community. " this isn't how you go about reaching our community." is unfair and disingenuous at best. As a content creator trying to reach every spectrum of "our community" (which I assume you mean SCBW at large) I'd love for someone to name ONE place to get the majority of the community. It's not bnet forums, tl forums, defiler forums, afreeca forums, whatever other korean forums, reddit, etc... Our "community" is so divided is twitter that much worse an option? I don't think so.
The best way is to hold a poll on the bnet forums and link to it from various places - reddit, tl.net, twitter, defiler forums, afreeca and etc.
Twitter is the worst of all - anyone can vote, there are no guarantees that the people who vote are really involved in the game. It's just plain stupid to use twitter polls for anything else than fun or attention grabbing. .. or if they just try to not do something and this way justify their lack of actions taken.
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A researcher wants to verify that Monguboomixes exist. The researcher writes down:
Null hypothesis: Monguboomixes do not exist Alt. hypothesis: Monguboomixes do exist The researcher visits a jungle and observes a Monguboomix. Even better, roughly 50% of the sample consists of Monguboomixes. "Monguboomixes exist, of that I can be certain" proclaims the researcher.
Which of the following is correct: A) The researcher can reject the null hypothesis. B) The researcher must observe a Monguboomix on teamliquid.net before rejecting the null hypothesis.
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On February 12 2019 23:12 Puosu wrote:A researcher wants to verify that Monguboomixes exist. The researcher writes down: Show nested quote +Null hypothesis: Monguboomixes do not exist Alt. hypothesis: Monguboomixes do exist The researcher visits a jungle and observes a Monguboomix. Even better, roughly 50% of the sample consists of Monguboomixes. "Monguboomixes exist, of that I can be certain" proclaims the researcher. Which of the following is correct: A) The researcher can reject the null hypothesis. B) The researcher must observe a Monguboomix on teamliquid.net before rejecting the null hypothesis. How in the fuck is sampling a population for their opinion on a topic equatable to simply discovering whether or not something exists? One is a question of how you properly sample a population, the other is whether a population exists. No similarity. Try again.
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On February 12 2019 19:11 Ikirouta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 09:51 SchAmToo wrote:On February 12 2019 08:55 SCWes wrote:On February 12 2019 05:52 RAPiDCasting wrote: I don't know if removing < 2min replays counts as a "essential feature" or a "major decision" but it's always good to see developers reaching out to the community for feedback instead of ignoring it and doing things on their own. I would agree that it isn't a major decision, and reaching out to the community is great, but IMO this isn't how you go about reaching our community. " this isn't how you go about reaching our community." is unfair and disingenuous at best. As a content creator trying to reach every spectrum of "our community" (which I assume you mean SCBW at large) I'd love for someone to name ONE place to get the majority of the community. It's not bnet forums, tl forums, defiler forums, afreeca forums, whatever other korean forums, reddit, etc... Our "community" is so divided is twitter that much worse an option? I don't think so. Twitter isn't that popular outside of the US.
People keep saying this but I've never met a person in real life or european online outside of the SCBW scene that doesn't use twitter.
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On February 13 2019 01:12 Qikz wrote: People keep saying this but I've never met a person in real life or european online outside of the SCBW scene that doesn't use twitter.
And I've never met a person in real life who actually uses twitter either, lol.
Like, for real guys, i don't get it why Twitter should be the place to decide about ANY updates in SC. It's like make a contest on facebook and try to - let's say - choose who's gonna get more likes on their photo to win something. It's very popular to just ask friends to hit the like button just to win. Maybe it's not a great example to show how stupid Twitter voting is in such a little community, but still.. BlueStar's idea is the best for me.
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On February 13 2019 00:53 Dazed. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 23:12 Puosu wrote:A researcher wants to verify that Monguboomixes exist. The researcher writes down: Null hypothesis: Monguboomixes do not exist Alt. hypothesis: Monguboomixes do exist The researcher visits a jungle and observes a Monguboomix. Even better, roughly 50% of the sample consists of Monguboomixes. "Monguboomixes exist, of that I can be certain" proclaims the researcher. Which of the following is correct: A) The researcher can reject the null hypothesis. B) The researcher must observe a Monguboomix on teamliquid.net before rejecting the null hypothesis. How in the fuck is sampling a population for their opinion on a topic equatable to simply discovering whether or not something exists? One is a question of how you properly sample a population, the other is whether a population exists. No similarity. Try again. The point is that the developer ostensibly wanted to see if there existed people who have use for replays <2min in length. Whether he "observes" the need in twitter-users or TLers is beside the point.
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On February 13 2019 01:12 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 19:11 Ikirouta wrote:On February 12 2019 09:51 SchAmToo wrote:On February 12 2019 08:55 SCWes wrote:On February 12 2019 05:52 RAPiDCasting wrote: I don't know if removing < 2min replays counts as a "essential feature" or a "major decision" but it's always good to see developers reaching out to the community for feedback instead of ignoring it and doing things on their own. I would agree that it isn't a major decision, and reaching out to the community is great, but IMO this isn't how you go about reaching our community. " this isn't how you go about reaching our community." is unfair and disingenuous at best. As a content creator trying to reach every spectrum of "our community" (which I assume you mean SCBW at large) I'd love for someone to name ONE place to get the majority of the community. It's not bnet forums, tl forums, defiler forums, afreeca forums, whatever other korean forums, reddit, etc... Our "community" is so divided is twitter that much worse an option? I don't think so. Twitter isn't that popular outside of the US. People keep saying this but I've never met a person in real life or european online outside of the SCBW scene that doesn't use twitter.
I don't use twitter.
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I have a twitter account, but basically never use twitter. And me even having an account is a big exception, because literally (and no I am not misusing this word or exaggerating) no one I know, has or uses Twitter at all. I saw this poll 1 months after it happend.
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so hard for starcraft dinosaurs to use twitter.they will still stick to 1.16 XP and using a pentium 4 if they could.
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this topic is hilarious on many levels.
On February 12 2019 09:51 SchAmToo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 08:55 SCWes wrote:On February 12 2019 05:52 RAPiDCasting wrote: I don't know if removing < 2min replays counts as a "essential feature" or a "major decision" but it's always good to see developers reaching out to the community for feedback instead of ignoring it and doing things on their own. I would agree that it isn't a major decision, and reaching out to the community is great, but IMO this isn't how you go about reaching our community. " this isn't how you go about reaching our community." is unfair and disingenuous at best. As a content creator trying to reach every spectrum of "our community" (which I assume you mean SCBW at large) I'd love for someone to name ONE place to get the majority of the community. It's not bnet forums, tl forums, defiler forums, afreeca forums, whatever other korean forums, reddit, etc... Our "community" is so divided is twitter that much worse an option? I don't think so.
If you want reliable numbers and get your community to listen to whatever crosses your mind, it's a good idea to use the one place you actually have control over. like your own homepage, the ridiculous launcher you force people to use to advertise your own products and events or a combination of all of it. just a thought.
On February 13 2019 01:12 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2019 19:11 Ikirouta wrote:On February 12 2019 09:51 SchAmToo wrote:On February 12 2019 08:55 SCWes wrote:On February 12 2019 05:52 RAPiDCasting wrote: I don't know if removing < 2min replays counts as a "essential feature" or a "major decision" but it's always good to see developers reaching out to the community for feedback instead of ignoring it and doing things on their own. I would agree that it isn't a major decision, and reaching out to the community is great, but IMO this isn't how you go about reaching our community. " this isn't how you go about reaching our community." is unfair and disingenuous at best. As a content creator trying to reach every spectrum of "our community" (which I assume you mean SCBW at large) I'd love for someone to name ONE place to get the majority of the community. It's not bnet forums, tl forums, defiler forums, afreeca forums, whatever other korean forums, reddit, etc... Our "community" is so divided is twitter that much worse an option? I don't think so. Twitter isn't that popular outside of the US. People keep saying this but I've never met a person in real life or european online outside of the SCBW scene that doesn't use twitter.
I never found anyone outside a retirement home who doesn't prefer instagram over twitter. LOL. #thisis2019 #emberassing
On February 12 2019 23:12 Puosu wrote:A researcher wants to verify that Monguboomixes exist. The researcher writes down: Show nested quote +Null hypothesis: Monguboomixes do not exist Alt. hypothesis: Monguboomixes do exist The researcher visits a jungle and observes a Monguboomix. Even better, roughly 50% of the sample consists of Monguboomixes. "Monguboomixes exist, of that I can be certain" proclaims the researcher. Which of the following is correct: A) The researcher can reject the null hypothesis. B) The researcher must observe a Monguboomix on teamliquid.net before rejecting the null hypothesis.
did you finish your first semester, or where does this interesting view on empirical research come from?
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On February 13 2019 02:05 chrisolo wrote: I have a twitter account, but basically never use twitter. And me even having an account is a big exception, because literally (and no I am not misusing this word or exaggerating) no one I know, has or uses Twitter at all. I saw this poll 1 months after it happend. is funny cuz they also asking opinions about maps on twitter.i find that odd to be honest.but i guess is better than nothing ?
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