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TLADT24917 Posts
On March 16 2019 03:52 JieXian wrote:I don't care that the safe bet is to expect Last to win due to previous achievements. I hope Mini wins Mr "I only lost because of ze busted wristzzs"! It would bring me much joy to watch Mini celebrate as the emotional guy he is. I think he would be the happiest guy in the world :D Also, I think he has been performing well in the PvZ games this ASL I am seriously disappointed that you didn't link to this post: Of course, EffOrt is likely to take a game off Flash due to his usual shenanigans, but anything outside 3-1 seems out of the question with Flash's recent form.Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 02:57 BigFan wrote:I think Last will take this 3-1. Explained why in the video below. Suffice to say, he's experienced, has already prepared well and has the upper hand imo while Mini is prone to emotional meltdowns. But Last does have his weaknesses and I think Mini can exploit those as well: + Show Spoiler + Wow nice effort on that presentation. That writeup is gonna keep haunting me, isn't it?
Thanks. Short, sweet, visually appealing and straight to the point ~
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great write-up. really appreciated the liquibets tracking
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Hey ty2, is it really true that the maps are that imbalanced in favour of protoss vs terran? I mean we have seen a pretty good racial balance throughout this season. 12-9 in pvt on the maps this season doesn't sound much imbalanced to me. And i think you really should reconsider this statement:
"But now it's practically being handed to him on a silver platter with a map pool this good."
These maps are new and hence strategies and tactics on them are still expected to evolve. Mini have to work hard to understand just exactly what those strategies could become and be prepared for them. It's not like he can just kick back his feet and expect free wins. He also have worked to hard to understand how to exploit the advantages given to protoss on these maps to get to this point. Your statement above is quite unfair in this regard. In my humble opinion.
And why is that we never talk about maps being terran or zerg favoured? In the post-kespa korean scene terran and zergs have pretty much won 90% of the tournaments. Yet the only times i hear about maps being favoured its when protoss receives the long end of the stick. Its frustrating.
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United States1428 Posts
On March 16 2019 06:58 tanngard wrote:Hey ty2, is it really true that the maps are that imbalanced in favour of protoss vs terran? I mean we have seen a pretty good racial balance throughout this season. 12-9 in pvt on the maps this season doesn't sound much imbalanced to me. And i think you really should reconsider this statement: "But now it's practically being handed to him on a silver platter with a map pool this good." These maps are new and hence strategies and tactics on them are still expected to evolve. Mini have to work hard to understand just exactly what those strategies could become and be prepared for them. It's not like he can just kick back his feet and expect free wins. He also have worked to hard to understand how to exploit the advantages given to protoss on these maps to get to this point. Your statement above is quite unfair in this regard. In my humble opinion. And why is that we never talk about maps being terran or zerg favoured? In the post-kespa korean scene terran and zergs have pretty much won 90% of the tournaments. Yet the only times i hear about maps being favoured its when protoss receives the long end of the stick. Its frustrating. I was taken aback by some statistics from Taardariel's article that said Block Chain is Terran favored. So you could say the maps aren't that in favour of Protoss. That said, I still believe Block Chain is Mini favored due to his abusive shuttle play. Just to clarify, when I talk about an imbalanced map pool I only mean Block Chain/Whiteout.
And yes, the silver platter comment is facetious, but I was partially exaggerating. He definitely works his caboose off to come up with good strategies and keep up his mechanics under the pressure of competition. The maps really are good though and it's the best setup for unpredictable games Mini could ask for against Last who thrives on flowchart gameplay. Then again, Last has shown his own crazy aggressive strats. Also, the games Last pulled vs Rain were one-dimensional 3-base pushes to Rain's natural. It felt like a downhill game for Last saved only by Rain's disastrous recall.
I do acknowledge I'm basing this off of only the ASL games, but as I see it Terran's options are pretty limited on Block Chain. I can't ignore the statistics though, so I will concede I am not as informed as can be.
On the topic of imba maps, well, that's a long convo that I frankly am too tired to talk about. My availability bias just makes me think that toss was always more imba on their imba maps than any other race's. In the end, I guess it might be as simple as people like hating on toss as the ez race.
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We had a fantastic season even without the old gods... is this a new era for sc1?
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Bulgaria750 Posts
Regarding Block Chain specifically, I still don't think the map is really figured out. Online statistics are helpful, but in this case we have one really abusive player and another that prepares in secret - and IIRC, Tastosis said Last had been practicing with Stork of all people before his match with Rain. I wouldn't be too surprised if either player puts himself at a BO disadvantage by trying to exploit the features of the map. Last had this working for him so far vs both Snow and Rain.
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I don’t think Last has lost on blockchain vs Protoss. Once vs Snow in the round of 16. And twice vs Rain?
I’m still rooting for Mini regardless. I wish it was Mini vs Sharp finals cud then no matter who won it would have been an emotional victory
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"Don't forget Mini's greatest weakness: his affinity for making weird faces" I dunno, I feel like Mini's ability to make weird faces is his greatest strength!
People seem to think that Last is going to take this. I don't know Brood War well enough to make heads or tails of these two players playing, but is Last just much more experienced than Mini? Reading over the preview though, it seems like anyone could take it.
Either way, I'm hoping for some entertaining games!
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On March 17 2019 02:05 Frudgey wrote: is Last just much more experienced than Mini?
I don't know about experience-- they are both former pros. Last has been on the verge of stepping out behind Flash's shadow for a couple years now. His stellar play online left people expecting great things from him, but he's had trouble offline, and thus winning premier events. With KSL season 1, he looked to have cracked offline. His play in ASL recently has reinforced that opinion in me. There is the dismal 0-4 vs Soulkey in KSL 2 to keep in mind, but I remain convinced he's wrapped his head around offline.
Sadly his wrist seems to have become an issue just as he's begun to peak offline. I'd say he peaked about a year ago, but covered up by some offline demons that he's finally managed to excise.
Last has said in that he fears Mini more than Best. Not sure I remember the exact quote, but it was something like being up 1-0 in a Bo5, he still feels uncomfortable vs Mini. I suspect they know each other's play fairly well having been former STX Soul teammates, and both the young guys on the team.
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it's really damn useless to check the "Hide spoilers" checkbox and have no spoiler in the title if the image spoils who is in the finals.
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I hope Mini will win, but I'm afraid that the nerves may eat him alive..
hopefully Mini 3-1!
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United States4882 Posts
On March 17 2019 06:51 LML wrote: it's really damn useless to check the "Hide spoilers" checkbox and have no spoiler in the title if the image spoils who is in the finals.
Understood. Will avoid doing this in the future.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES48873 Posts
On March 17 2019 06:51 LML wrote: it's really damn useless to check the "Hide spoilers" checkbox and have no spoiler in the title if the image spoils who is in the finals.
sorry but you had 2 weeks to catch up, even TL only has a 48HR rule for BW. Its unfortunate that you got spoiled and we should use spoiler free FP images but in this case its more on you than us.
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United States9607 Posts
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On March 16 2019 02:57 BigFan wrote:I think Last will take this 3-1. Explained why in the video below. Suffice to say, he's experienced, has already prepared well and has the upper hand imo while Mini is prone to emotional meltdowns. But Last does have his weaknesses and I think Mini can exploit those as well: + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2vbz9bWOtM&feature=youtu.be + Show Spoiler +Perfect prognostic, congratulations
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TLADT24917 Posts
On March 18 2019 04:47 AntiHack wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 02:57 BigFan wrote:I think Last will take this 3-1. Explained why in the video below. Suffice to say, he's experienced, has already prepared well and has the upper hand imo while Mini is prone to emotional meltdowns. But Last does have his weaknesses and I think Mini can exploit those as well: + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2vbz9bWOtM&feature=youtu.be + Show Spoiler +Perfect prognostic, congratulations + Show Spoiler +
On March 17 2019 16:45 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2019 06:51 LML wrote: it's really damn useless to check the "Hide spoilers" checkbox and have no spoiler in the title if the image spoils who is in the finals. sorry but you had 2 weeks to catch up, even TL only has a 48HR rule for BW. Its unfortunate that you got spoiled and we should use spoiler free FP images but in this case its more on you than us. Actually, it's 24 hours for BW spoilers on TL, but 2 weeks is more than enough time to catch up.
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On March 18 2019 17:24 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2019 04:47 AntiHack wrote:On March 16 2019 02:57 BigFan wrote:I think Last will take this 3-1. Explained why in the video below. Suffice to say, he's experienced, has already prepared well and has the upper hand imo while Mini is prone to emotional meltdowns. But Last does have his weaknesses and I think Mini can exploit those as well: + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2vbz9bWOtM&feature=youtu.be + Show Spoiler +Perfect prognostic, congratulations + Show Spoiler +Show nested quote +On March 17 2019 16:45 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 17 2019 06:51 LML wrote: it's really damn useless to check the "Hide spoilers" checkbox and have no spoiler in the title if the image spoils who is in the finals. sorry but you had 2 weeks to catch up, even TL only has a 48HR rule for BW. Its unfortunate that you got spoiled and we should use spoiler free FP images but in this case its more on you than us. Actually, it's 24 hours for BW spoilers on TL, but 2 weeks is more than enough time to catch up. If this thread gets bumped the every time last wins I'm going to lock it, I know you want to show appreciation but not at the cost of others being spoiled, please wait for 2 days before bumping for a major result. :D :D
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Bisutopia18980 Posts
On March 18 2019 19:06 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2019 17:24 BigFan wrote:On March 18 2019 04:47 AntiHack wrote:On March 16 2019 02:57 BigFan wrote:I think Last will take this 3-1. Explained why in the video below. Suffice to say, he's experienced, has already prepared well and has the upper hand imo while Mini is prone to emotional meltdowns. But Last does have his weaknesses and I think Mini can exploit those as well: + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2vbz9bWOtM&feature=youtu.be + Show Spoiler +Perfect prognostic, congratulations + Show Spoiler +On March 17 2019 16:45 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 17 2019 06:51 LML wrote: it's really damn useless to check the "Hide spoilers" checkbox and have no spoiler in the title if the image spoils who is in the finals. sorry but you had 2 weeks to catch up, even TL only has a 48HR rule for BW. Its unfortunate that you got spoiled and we should use spoiler free FP images but in this case its more on you than us. Actually, it's 24 hours for BW spoilers on TL, but 2 weeks is more than enough time to catch up. If this thread gets bumped the every time last wins I'm going to lock it, I know you want to show appreciation but not at the cost of others being spoiled, please wait for 2 days before bumping for a major result. :D :D I feel you. The persons who bumped the + Show Spoiler +appreciation thread ruined the finals results for me before I could go to the small vod thread. Next finals I'm locking all threads that pertain to finalists.
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My apologies thought it would have been okay because we discussed there Lasts 0-3 loss against Flash and exists from other tours
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