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Sweden1222 Posts
Hello friends! Im always out to get a better hotkey setup and im wondering what do you use? Let me start:
Custom hotkeys? No. For the sole reason i dont wanna rely on the game maker to have it activated. Ive played this game so long (99') that i shouldnt have any issues with the standard layout. Yes ofc P,O,L etc are far away and you just have to get used to it. I do prefer this over grid anyhow, ive tried that in other games and it feels very uncomfortable to use ZXCV for example, and ASDFGH has kind of always attack stop hold or whatever so its a routine.
Location hotkeys? Yes. This is a constant struggle to find the perfect use for these, seeing as how Koreans use em (im watching HiYa's YT channel all the time, 5h+ vids). So im trying to figure out HIS layout to become better myself how to use em.
It comes down to F4 for main base building to skip using a group hotkey for that building, most Koreans seems to have moved away from having starting building hotkeyed but use location hotkey instead then click base+worker.
F3 , for various tasks like having a secondary base to move workers between if you are dropped, also good for making workers at 2nd base, is also used for mass-rallying your main production buildings like factories,gates,hatches, this is then the production hotkey and F2 is the location you want.
F2, used for production because its so close to your fingers and is more comfortable than F3,F4 IMO to click all the time. At later stages i dont need to produce more workers anyway so they become semi-obsolete except for locating your towns.
Group hotkeys? Yes. Trying to keep my hand as much on the left side as possible so up to 6-7 is the longest reach for regular play, scanners and sometimes Nexus (as its close to P, 8p,9p,0p like so. Not too useful. Its a constant back and forth whether or not to use it, i dont play P that often anyhow and location hotkeys are so much more comfortable.
1-2-3 mainly units, 4 is my starting building which later becomes 4-5-6-7 as production keys for in-fight production.
As for per race hotkeys, i do play all races, mostly T atm, but i have no custom per race it looks quite the same on most, unless there is a specific key that could be close to group hotkeys it could be wise to have it closer. Like 8p9p0p.
As for GEAR im using G305 mouse and DREVO keyboard (F1 exactly above 1, very compact).
Now onto you. Why im asking this question is not just to make a fun discussion but to actually learn something new and see what others use, maybe ill find some neat tips/tricks in the community.
Edit: I put this in strategy as i feel its kind of strategy but maybe not. Feel free to move it Mods.
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Hello MeSaber! Let's start with my hotkeys (I play protoss and I have custom keys only for them; you shouldn't worry too much about some players making them disabled ; there aren't so many who do that).
The F keys: F2 - my main F3 - my gateways F4 - my natural
I've tried in the past to put F3 at my nat and F4 at my 3rd but i don't feel confortable to put 5 and 6 for gates at the beginning.
Nexus on 8,9,0, to press quickly 0p9p8p.
In PvZ , at the early stages I put initial zelots on 1 and 2 (yes, the same group) , 3 - the inital gate and 4 the stargate. I have zealots and corsairs on q and i press fast 3q4q.
As the game continues, I have 1,2,3 and even 4 my army units and 5 and 6 for units like observers or arbiters.
In late PvT , when I stop making any more probes, I put some of my arbiters (If i have many) on 8,9,0 , replacing the nexuses, because sometimes I lose track on them.
As for custom keys, I have patrol on w , shuttle speed on q, observer upgrades on q and w, pylon on b (i press fast bb), observatory on v, interceptors and scarabs on q, dark templar on e. For fun games, in which i use scouts or dweb etc, I make upgrades by clicking with mouse on their icons (I don't know what key is for scout range or for corsair + 50 energy haha). And that's pretty much it !
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Sweden1222 Posts
thx for the input @prosatan !
any reason you still use P if you use custom keys? or is it because you use nexuses on 890 no matter what to not clutter 1234567 keys?
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Yes, my nexuses are always 098 and for this i have probes stil on p
When at one point I tried put F2,F3 and F4 at my main , nat and 3rd, i had probes on q and not putting my nexuses on any number. But somehow i didn't manage to play well with this setup and I returned to the one described
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Early game
1 - probe 2 - probe 3 - gas / probe / shuttle 4 - 1st pylon - 1st gate
5 - gate 6 - gate
7 - robo 8 - stargate 9 - nexus 0 - nexus
mid game
1 - dragoon 2 - dragoon 3 - zealot 4 - zealot
5 - gate 6 - gate
7 - robo 8 - stargate 9 - nexus 0 - nexus
late game
1 - dragoons 2 - dragoons 3 - zealots 4 - zealots 5 - mix of army
6 - macro gate
7 - robo 8 - stargate 9 - nexus 0 - nexus
f2 main nexus f3 natural nexus f4 3rd nexus
old progamer Tester used exactly the same set up, i stole 7 robo / 8 stargate from his setup
he also switches f2 f4 for rally points and macro gates at some points.
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I think most of us do it like we see the former Kespa pros do in the FPvods, which there is a shit ton of now. Just study them. If you look at Flash. He will have 1 and 2 for army for the most part, 3 for CC and 4,5,6,7,8 for production buildings. So a macro cycle for him when doing his 5 rax build would go something like this: 1a2a3s(centers mouses hits f3 clicks on his cc in natural hits s, dobble taps 1 to get back to army( you want your attention out on the map) then he goes 4m5m6m7m8c or something like this. F4 is for 3rd base i think or maybe an area where he has alot of production late game.
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Sweden1222 Posts
What Flash mentioned is that he stops using CC hotkeyed when he gets his production facilities up, like rax/fac and then solely uses F3/F4 for the worker production. You can notice this after a few mins in his games that he clicks F3/F4,Lclick,S very fast so its hard to see that it isnt a group hotkey being used.
He also mentioned player Last did the opposite that he kept 4-5-6 for worker production the whole game, which is why he has so many SCVs late game.
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After 20+ Years of playing, I have never used the F Keys (Small hands), I think it is about time to give them a try.
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1,2,3 - hatcheries 4,5 - army 6 - army in games where I actually have to do more than box amove lings
No F keys
Follow my guide to reach 1600 mmr
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P: Early: 1: zealot/scouting probe 2: 2nd zealot if pvz and i split them 6: scouting probe 7/8:gate 9/0:Nex F2 production f3 natural then f4 usually only assigned later for rally (or wherver i attack, i set to f4 so i can macro and come back to it, needs some getting used to) Later: reassign gate hotkey to the central gate in the cluster (as opposed to the wall) 7 gate in the wall 6 sg 5robo 1 2 3 4 army then when i m on 3 bases 0 for obs.
Z: 0 for mutas 4 5 6 etc for hatches 1 2 3 for army but i box click a lot unless it s some sort of hydra/lurk. Later 0 or 9 for defilers For some reason i use f key less as Z and it negatively impacts my macro. One f/base (up to 3) is good when i do it
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